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OF INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE. THIS YEAR STUDENTS HEARD FROM A NAZI HUNTER AND AN EYEWITNESS TO THE NUREMBERG TRIALS AMONG OTHERS. THIS IS AN HOUR, 30 MINUTES....
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
DRAMATICALLY. I COMMEND ALL OF THE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WHICH HAVE TAKEN THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT ON. IT'S NOT AN EASY SUBJECT, BUT YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY,...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
SHOWING YOUR INTEREST IN A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. YOU ARE THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST, AND I THINK EACH OF YOU HAVE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED THAT YOU...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
BETTER. AND THEN AT SOME POINT AFTER WE HAVE OUR LITTLE CONVERSATION HERE, WHICH YOU ARE THE AUDIENCE AND CAN LISTEN FOR A WHILE, AND THEN I'M GOING...
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Neckers, Douglas C. - Fellow
UNDERGRADUATE STUDENT WHO HAPPENED TO BE A TRANSLATOR AT THE NUMBERBURG MINISTRIES TRIAL WHO WAS TEACHING AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN HISTORY AT HOPE COLLEGE...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
DONE WITH SCHOOL. THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU'VE TURNED IT INTO A CAREER. HOW DID THAT ALL HAPPEN? >> WELL, AS IN THE CASE OF PROFESSOR NECKERS, I CAME...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
THIS FIELD THROUGH EXPERIENCES I HAD IN SCHOOL, THE SAME AS THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE AND LIKE CONGRESSMAN HECHLER, I SALUTE YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
GENOCIDE. OF PARTICULAR INTEREST HERE AT THE ROBERT H. JACKSON CENTER, OF COURSE, JACKSON WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE WHO PERPETRATED THOSE...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
NOT AS A PROSECUTOR, BUT RATHER AS A HISTORIAN TO GATHER MILITARY INFORMATION. THAT WAS MY ASSIGNMENT. AND IN ORDER TO GET THAT INFORMATION, I THINK...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
JUST SAID. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW YOU ADJUSTED YOURSELF TOWARDS HERMANN GORING. >> IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO PICK UP ON...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
HELL. WE'RE ALL NEW YORKERS. DOUG, GREG, MYSELF, AND SO IS DR. HECHLER. HE GREW UP ON LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK, AS I DID. YEAH, THAT'S STILL PART OF THE...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
DISOBEDIENCE, PROTESTING A CERTAIN KIND OF MINING THAT HARMS THE ENVIRONMENT IN HIS STATE. SO HE'S STILL AT IT. IF EACH OF YOU ONLY ONCE -- OR EACH...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
NOTE. IN MAY OF 2010, A STUDENT YOUR AGE, MICHAEL REID IS HIS NAME, FROM CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE, SUBMITTED AN ARTICLE FOR -- TO THE JOHN F. KENNEDY LIBRARY...
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Neckers, Douglas C. - Fellow
AND GETTING A Ph.D IN HISTORY FROM COLUMBIA, UNIVERSITY. SO BY FAR, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OBLIGATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE AT THIS STAGE IS TO PURSUE AT THE...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
THINGS. AND AS I REMARK, I APPRECIATE AND APPLAUD THE THINGS THAT YOU STAND FOR, WHICH ARE DEMONSTRATED ON THE READING ON YOUR SHIRTS. AND THE ONE THING...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
JUSTICE." AND THAT'S HIS LIFELINE AND THEME THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, IN PURSUIT OF JUSTICE. HE'S GIVEN YOU A FEW VIGNETTES. ELI HAS GIVEN YOU A FEW VIGNETTES...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. >> AT THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, WORKING ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS
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| 00:33:01 |
Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
VIOLATOR CASES FROM THE
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
WORLD WAR II NAZI CASES THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL THESE YEARS TO CASES NOW INVOLVING CRIMINALS FROM RWANDA, BOSNIA, GUATEMALA, AND ELSEWHERE. I THINK...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
MORALITY, THE PROFESSIONALISM OF SCIENTISTS, WHETHER THEY'RE AMERICAN, GERMAN, WHO ARE WORKING ON A PRODUCT WHICH PRESUMABLY, AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING IT...
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Neckers, Douglas C. - Fellow
IN IT. CONSIDER THE CASE OF PENICILLIN, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED IN THE UNITED STATES DURING WORLD WAR II BY WORK MAINLY AT ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY IN NEW...
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I
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
HAD MANY YEARS AGO AS A YOUNG PROSECUTOR, QUESTIONING A FORMER NAZI SCIENTIST, WHO HAD BEEN BROUGHT TO THE UNITED STATES BY THE THEN U.S. WAR DEPARTMENT...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
PANELISTS TO THE STUDENTS. AND IF ANYBODY HAS A PARTICULAR QUESTION FOR CONGRESSMAN HECHLER OR ELI ROSENBAUM OR PROFESSOR NECKERS, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND ASK THE QUESTION. WHY DON'T YOU SAY YOUR NAME, YOUR AGE, OR GRADE, AND WHAT SCHOOL YOU ATTEND. >> MY NAME IS EVAN VANDBELT,...
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TO JUSTICE AFTER ALL THEY DID? >> IS THAT DIRECTED TOWARDS ME? >> ANYONE. >> WELL, YOU GET INTO THE WHOLE QUESTION OF WHAT IS, WHAT IS JUSTICE. >> HOW...
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FOR AN EYE" SENSE, IT'S NOT
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
POSSIBLE. THIS WAS WIDELY DISCUSSED,
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
ESPECIALLY IN 1960, '61 WHEN THE SO-CALLED ARCHITECT OF THE GENOCIDE OF THE JEWS IN NAZI EUROPE WAS BROUGHT TO TRIAL IN ISRAEL. AND, YOU KNOW, HE...
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LUTHER KING AND YOU GOT THOSE
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NOTES SAYING WE WERE GOING TO MARCH YOU BACK TO NEW YORK, WERE YOU RE-ELECTED? >> WELL, I JUST PUT ON A FULL COURT PRESS AND MADE SURE THAT MY FRIENDS...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
HELPED ME IN GREATER MEASURE. I THINK ONE OF THE -- I DISAGREE WITH MOST OF THE THINGS WHICH THE SECOND PRESIDENT BUSH ADVOCATED, BUT ONE THING HE SAID...
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TRUE. >>
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MODESTLY. >> BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST STUPID THINGS I HAD EVER DONE
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POLITICALLY. I HAD BEEN SERVING THE HOUSE OF
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
REPRESENTATIVES FOR 18 YEARS. AND CONGRESS IS LIKE AN ESCALATOR. YOU GET IN AT THE BOTTOM OR STAY THERE LONG ENOUGH, YOU'LL GRADUALLY RISE TO THE TOP....
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YOU. >> HI. MY
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NAME'S AMY, AND MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. HECHLER. DID THE NAZIS SHOW YOU ANY REMORSE FOR THEIR CRIME? >> DURING THE INTERROGATION
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WITH THE NAZIS, DID ANY OF THEM SHOW REMORSE? >>
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
NO. NONE OF THEM SHOWED REMORSE. THE ONLY CHANGE IN THEIR
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
OPINIONS WAS OCCASIONALLY THEY WOULD TRY TO TURN THE ATTENTION TOWARD CRITICISMS OF HITLER, AND THIS WAS, AGAIN, A VERY SELF-SERVING THING, THAT DID...
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SCHOOL. I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. ELI ROSENBAUM. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HELD THE MEN THAT YOU BROUGHT IN IN CONTEMPT FOR THEIR CRIMES THAT WAS...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
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SURE. PEOPLE WHO TOOK PART IN TERRIBLE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY THEN TYPICALLY LIED THEIR WAY INTO
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
THE UNITED STATES, THEREBY DEPRIVING WORTHY APPLICANTS FOR IMMIGRANT VISAS FROM THE CHANCE TO COME TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY, REALLY, I THINK, DESERVE OUR...
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THOSE PEOPLE HAD EXPRESSED
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
REMORSE TO ME, IT WOULD HAVE MEANT SOMETHING TO ME, BUT IT NEVER
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HAPPENED EITHER,
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
IN OUR CASES. >> HELLO. I'M SHELLY MELONOWSKI. I'M A TEACHER ASSISTANT IN THE
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WILLIAMSVILLE CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. I DON'T THINK I NEED TO REVEAL MY AGE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S MY POSITION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF COMPANIES LIKE...
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Neckers, Douglas C. - Fellow
EXECUTIVE POSITIONS AT BAYER, AND IBM IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY, BUT FARBEN WAS A CARTEL OF 11 BASF, AGFO, A PHOTOGRAPHIC COMPANY MAJOR FACILITIES IN BINGHAMTON,...
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QUESTIONS. SO
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TELL PEOPLE TO YELL INTO THE -- >>
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
YELL INTO THE MICROPHONE, OKAY. AND I'LL ASSIST. GO
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| 01:00:50 |
Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
AHEAD. >> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ISSUES OF SEGREGATION AND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING IS ONE OF MY
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HEROES. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW DID YOU FEEL MARCHING WITH HIM IN SELMA AND THINGS LIKE THAT? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, AND THIS IS, OF COURSE, A...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
ALL OF YOU HERE THAT YOU HAVE TO SORT OUT YOUR OWN PRIORITIES AND REALIZE, AS DR. KING DID, THAT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM IS ALWAYS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER....
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HELLO. I'M A SENIOR, AND MY QUESTION IS FOR DR. HECHLER. AT THE SUMMER INSTITUTE, OUR MOTTO IS "BE THE CHANGE YOU
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WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD." IT'S WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF OUR SHIRTS. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT QUOTE DEFINES YOUR LIFE? AND HAVE YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
WORLD." THAT'S THEIR MOTTO. AND WONDERED IF THAT WAS A MOTTO WHICH YOU SORT OF IMPLICITLY USED IN YOUR CAREER, AS YOU LOOK BACK OVER 95 YEARS. >> 100%!...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
EXPERIENCES, WHAT DO YOU
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BELIEVE ULTIMATELY CAUSES A HUMAN BEING TO COMMIT THE SORT OF CRIMES YOU'VE DEALT WITH IN YOUR LIFETIMES? >> WOW. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE THINK...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
DEALT WITH, ADDRESSED IN OUR CAREERS? WOW, IF I COULD ANSWER THAT, MAYBE I'D HAVE THE SOLUTION TO PREVENTING THEM. THERE ARE CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED...
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Neckers, Douglas C. - Fellow
LIVES. IF THEY CHANGED -- IF THEY DID OTHER THINGS, THEN, TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS THAT WERE GIVEN. SO FEAR, I THINK, IS A MAJOR MOTIVATING FACTOR. >> I...
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
CRIME THAT WAS COMMITTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY THE NAZIS AND THEIR COHORTS HAS APPALLED ME AND HAS CAUSED ME TO WRESTLE WITH A QUESTION OF HOW COULD...
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
LOTS OF TIMES THESE HEINOUS CRIMES, THESE VICIOUS CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CRIMINALIZED THEMSELVES IN THEIR YOUNGER YEARS AND THERE'S...
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HAJEL. I AM GOING TO BE A JUNIOR THIS
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FALL. MY QUESTION IS FOR PROFESSOR
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HECHLER. WHAT WAS -- WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO KEEP ON GOING, EVEN THOUGH THEY TOLD YOU THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RE-ELECT YOU WHEN YOU MARCHED WITH DR....
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Hechler, Kenneth W. - Special Assistant
AGAIN, I HAVE TO RELATE BACK TO MY VERY EARLY CHILDHOOD, WHERE WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL AT AN EARLY AGE, I WAS CONSIDERED TO BE AN N-E-R-D. YOU KNOW WHAT...
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QUESTION? >> MY QUESTION IS ALSO FOR CONGRESSMAN HECHLER. THROUGHOUT YOUR LONG AND
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ILLUSTRIOUS CAREER, WHERE
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DID YOU FEEL YOU WERE MAKING THE MOST DIFFERENCE? AS A HISTORIAN, AS SOMEONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE PRESIDENT, AS A CONGRESSMAN...
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Peterson, Gregory L. - Chairman
YEARS, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT CAREER, WHETHER IT WAS AS A WAR HISTORIAN, AS A -- WORKING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AS A CONGRESSMAN,...
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PROFESSOR, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IS ONE OF THE MOST JOYFUL EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE, TO BE ABLE TO SEE STUDENTS DEVELOP FROM FRESHMAN TO SENIOR YEAR AND ...
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JUST WANTED TO PICK UP ON THE THEME OF THE QUESTION, WHICH WAS IMPACT. THIS IS THE
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SECOND SUMMER I'VE HAD THE
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Rosenbaum, Eli M. - Director
PRIVILEGE OF SPENDING TIME WITH STUDENTS IN THIS AMAZING PROGRAM. AND I CAN IMAGINE IN LIGHT OF THE COMMITMENT THAT ALL OF YOU DEMONSTRATE TO HUMAN...
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