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IN AMERICA," PROFILES KEY PLAYERS. UNIVERSITY BOOKSTORE IN SEATTLE HOSTS THE 50-MINUTE EVENT. >> I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY THE MOMENT AT WHICH THE IDEA...
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| 00:00:22 |
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WAS READING A BOOK CALLED "THE FOUNDING OF NEW ENGLAND," WHICH WAS WRITTEN IN 1931 BY JAMES ADAMS, AND HE HAD A SENTENCE THAT ARRESTED MY ATTENTION....
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| 00:26:47 |
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THE TRADE WITH SOME KIND OF SECURITY, OR DID THEY ALL JUST BASICALLY SQUANDER WHATEVER THEY HAD AND WERE LOST IN THE MISTS OR -- >> I HAVE SPECIFIC...
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| 00:27:07 |
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NOT LESS. BUT CERTAINLY SOME MADE SOME MONEY AND WERE SMART ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF IT. BECAUSE CONTRARY TO THE POPULAR PERCEPTION OF MOUNTAIN MEN, MANY...
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| 00:27:47 |
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HE WAS GETTING OLD AT THAT POINT. HE ALSO FORESAW A TIME
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| 00:27:50 |
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WHEN HE THOUGHT THAT THE BEAVER PELTS AND THE BEAVER FUR HAT WOULD BE ECLIPSED BY SILK AND KNEW TRY YA, BUT IT WAS MAINLY HIS HEALTH THAT CAUSED HIM...
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| 00:28:56 |
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OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE STUDIED THE ISSUE MUCH MORE IN DETAIL THAN I AND
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| 00:29:01 |
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HAVE LOOKED AT THE JOURNALS AND RECORDS KEPT BY THE VARIOUS COMPANIES THAT WENT INTO THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS, AND THE BEST ESTIMATE IS DURING THE ENTIRE...
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| 00:29:25 |
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MEAN, YOU HAD ONE PICTURE. THEY WERE IN THOSE STREAMS SETTING TRAPS. IT'S NOT LIKE THE BUFFALO WHERE YOU'VE GOT REPEATING RIFLES, THEY'VE GOT THE TRAINS...
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| 00:29:55 |
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THIS DESTRUCTIVE PATH BY MANY CANADIAN TRAPPER, VOYAGERS -- >> YOU'RE NOT COUNTING THEM. >> YEAH. THAT CAME DOWN. ALSO DOWN TO THE SOUTH THERE WERE...
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| 00:30:08 |
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HUNDRED TAOS TRAPPERS WHO WERE TRYING TO DEVASTATE THE POPULATIONS IN THE SOUTHWEST, AND THERE'S A BIG DEBATE OVER HOW MANY BEAVER WERE ORIGINALLY IN...
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| 00:31:41 |
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SPECIFICALLY TRY TO TRAP OUT THE BEAVER BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO RESERVE THEIR -- PRESERVE THEIR POLITICAL CONTROL ON THE TERRITORY? >> ABSOLUTELY. THEY...
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| 00:31:55 |
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BECAUSE THE THEORY WAS IF TRAPPERS COME, SETTLERS FOLLOW. SO THE BEST WAY TO KEEP THE TRAPPERS FROM COMING TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WAS TO CREATE...
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| 00:33:02 |
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OF THE FUR TRADE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONSERVATION SORT OF BOOKEND THAT YOU'RE USING IN THE 19TH CENTURY. MY CURIOUSTY SPECIFICALLY IS WITH THE MODERN...
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| 00:33:23 |
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BUT FARMING? >> RIGHT. FUR FARMING, I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T FOCUS ON IT IN THE BOOK, BUT IT DID START
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| 00:33:30 |
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TO CROP UP IN THE LATE 1800s. THAT'S WHEN IT STARTED IN AMERICA. AND IT REALLY TOOK OFF SORT OF WITH THE RISE OF THE CONSERVATION MOVEMENT AND THE...
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| 00:34:43 |
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THEY HAD SHOWN WHERE THE ANIMALS WERE AND TRADED AND THEN THEIR WHOLE CULTURE'S CHANGED. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, THEIR CULTURE WAS FUNDAMENTALLY...
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| 00:35:00 |
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STORY. WHAT HAPPENED AS THE TRADE SPREAD FROM EAST TO WEST AND THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS DIMINISHED, MANY OF THE INDIAN TRIBES WHO HAD HAD BECOME ACCUSTOMED...
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| 00:37:48 |
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WHO, BASICALLY, ACCEPTED THE INDIANS ON THEIR OWN TERMS. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> I CAN'T SAY IT'S THE ONLY O ONE PARTLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE...
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| 00:37:59 |
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AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT I'D HAVE TO STUDY. BUT LOOKING AT THEM IN ISOLATION, YES, THERE'S NO DOUBT MANY OF THE MOUNTAIN MEN AND CERTAINLY THE VOYAGERS...
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| 00:38:55 |
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A MUSEUM, AND HE'S GOT SOME
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| 00:38:58 |
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GREAT PAINTINGS OF THAT ERA. >> OKAY. YEAH, I'D LOVE -- IT'S FUNNY. WHENEVER I WRITE A BOOK, I ALWAYS WANT TO BUY SOMETHING AT
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| 00:39:06 |
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THE END OF THE PROCESS TO REMEMBER THE BOOK BACK. FOR MY WHALING BOOK I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BUY SOME SCRIP SHAW, BUT AFTER HAVING AT SOME AUCTIONS,...
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| 00:40:12 |
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I HAD A SABER-TOOTHED TIGER. I'M THINKING, THERE ARE NO SABER-TOOTHED TIGERS OUT HERE. THEY'RE SOMETHING ELSE. >> OH, THEY'RE AMAZING. THEY KEEP GROWING...
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| 00:40:29 |
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WHEN THEY OPEN AND CLOSE THEIR MOUTH THE EDGES RUB TOGETHER. THERE ARE INSTANCES I'VE BEEN TOLD, AND I SAW ONE PICTURE AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS DOCTORED...
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| 00:41:25 |
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THE GREATEST AMERICANA COLLECTION IN THE WORLD. >> I WENT TO UNDERGRADUATE THERE, AND AT THAT TIME I DIDN'T
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| 00:41:31 |
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KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE FUR TRADE. THIS IS SORT OF A REFLECTION IN THE CHANGE
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| 00:41:35 |
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OF SOCIETY. I WENT TO SOME KEY LIBRARIES LIKE THE MASSACHUSETTS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE PHILLIPS MUSEUM. I ALSO BEFRIENDED SOME HISTORY BUFFS, AND...
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| 00:43:32 |
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NOTES, AND WHEN I FOUND A KEY QUOTE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A FUNCTION WHERE YOU CAN SORT OF
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| 00:43:39 |
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CUT AND PASTE THE TEXT. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS. AND I KNOW THERE ARE CONTROVERSIES ABOUT OTHER THINGS GOOGLE WANTS TO DO WITH BOOKS IN PRINT, BUT...
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| 00:44:00 |
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WITH TOPICS, IT'S LIKE BROWNIE IN
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| 00:44:03 |
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MOTION. I BUMP INTO THINGS. THE WHALELY BOOK STARTED BECAUSE I HAD JUST FINISHED A BOOK CALLED "POLITICAL WATERS." AND I MOVED TO MASSACHUSETTS ON...
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| 00:45:41 |
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THE MOST. I'M GOING TO PICK A FUNNY PERSON. HIS NAME'S THOMAS MORTON, AND THERE WERE MANY
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| 00:45:47 |
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THINGS ABOUT HIM NOT TO ADMIRE, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I TO ADMIRE. THE THINGS NOT TO ADMIRE, PERHAPS, IS HE CAME TO THE SHORES OF BOSTON HARBOR...
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| 00:47:44 |
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GREAT CHARACTER, AND I DON'T KNOW SOME OF THE BACK STORY BECAUSE I
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| 00:47:47 |
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DON'T TALK ABOUT -- NOT THAT I DON'T KNOW IT, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE VARIOUS THEORIES ABOUT SORT OF HIS BACKGROUND AND WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID OUT THERE....
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| 00:48:54 |
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BE SAID FOR MANY MOUNTAIN MEN. THEY WENT TO THEIR GRAVE
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| 00:48:58 |
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WITHOUT SHARING THE VAST STOREHOUSE OF INFORMATION THEY'D BE GATHERING. IN PARTICULAR, JED DIE YA SMITH. HE HAD PLANNED TO DO THAT, BUT THEN HE WAS KILLED...
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| 00:49:56 |
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IS THE NAME OF HIS BOOK? IT'S HORRIBLE. PUBLISHED IN 187 -- >> IT'S AVAILABLE. >> IT'S AVAILABLE. NOW THAT I'VE SAID THAT'S HORRIBLE, MAYBE YOU WON'T...
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| 00:50:10 |
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STORY. I WICKED UP SO I COULD SAY EXCITED. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MY BOOK HAS A LOT OF WORDS AND INFORMATION AND FACTS, AND PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY AMAZED,...
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| 00:50:49 |
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WHERE THE INDIANS TOOK THEIR HORSES, I REMEMBER ONE IN WYOMING, AND THEY WALKED ALL THE WAY TO -- >> OH, THEY WERE TOUGH. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE...
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| 00:51:03 |
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IF THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE GONE PRETTY QUICKLY. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. [APPLAUSE] >> READ ABOUT ERIC JAY...
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| 00:51:23 |
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DOLIN.COM. BookTV IS ASKING, WHAT ARE YOUMAN READING THIS SUMMER? BookTV
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