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AND SENATE THIS WEEK. OUR TWO GUESTS TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND DEFINITE SPENDING AND WHERE THE WORLD STANDS WORLD BIDE. WITH THE ECONOMIC POLICY...
00:00:26
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BILL --
00:00:30
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GUEST: ONE IS THE FACT THAT SO MUCH REGULATORY DISCRETION WAS LEFT TO THE REGULATORS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THREE OR
00:00:39
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FOUR YEARS GOING FORWARD. I THINK OF THIS AS A FULL EMPLOYMENT BILL FOR LOBBYISTS AND LAWYERS FOR FINANCIAL FIRMS WORKING WITH THE REGULATORS TO ...
00:02:18
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CAN YOU PLAIN THE SFANS? >> WELL, DERIVATIVES ARE BETS. THEY ARE -- THEY COVER AN
00:02:27
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ENORMOUS RANGE OF THINGS. YOU CAN HAVE DERIVATIVES ON EVERYTHING FROM THE WEATHER TO THE PRICE OF SUGAR A YEAR FROM NOW. THE PRICE OF GASOLINE A YEAR...
00:04:12
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FOR -- INCLUDING THE FEDERAL DESERVE AND SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION AND THE FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION. WHEN THE BANKERS CONVENED...
00:04:46
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WEEKS. ESPECIALLY WHEN ONCE THEY GOT INTO CONFERENCE AS TO WHAT THE FINAL LEGISLATION WOULD LOOK LIKE, MADE A DETERMINATION THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT...
00:06:18
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DAVID CAMRON OF GREAT BRITAIN AND OS SAYING WE CAN'T SPEND MORE. WE GOT TO BRING DOWN OUR OWN DEFICIT. SO CAN YOU PLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPENDING...
00:06:39
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IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF THE SUBPRIME DISASTER BOTH IN THE STOCK MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD AND IN HOUSING MARKETS. TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS...
00:08:30
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ANNOUNCING THEIR PLANS TO ACCOUNT THEIR BUNL ETC AND QUOTE THE ECONOMIST WHO SAYS GERMAN AUSTERITY WILL WORSEN THE CRISIS IN THE EURO AREA. >> WELL, HE...
00:08:49
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HAD DESCRIBED. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO DISCUSS, AND WITH RESPECT TO THE GERMANS. WELL, DR. CRUGMAN AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION...
00:10:22
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MIDST OF FINANCIAL AND CYCLICAL DOWNTURNS. GUEST: WE ARE A THING TENT THAT FOCUSES ON LABOR PROBLEMS. HOST: YOU HAVE THIS CHART THAT FOCUSES ON RECOVERY
00:10:35
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AND JOB GROWTH BEFORE AND AFTER RECOVERY. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THIS
00:10:39
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TO? GUEST: THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SINGLE PICTURES YOU CAN HAVE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ECONOMY. STARTING AT THE START OF THE
00:10:48
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RECESSION IN DECEMBER, 2007, THE BEGINNING OF JOB LOSSES THAT ENDED UP AT 700,000 PER MONTH THE ECONOMY CRATERED ALL OF THAT DEMAND. $12 TRILLION WAS...
00:12:09
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MY RIDING THAT I WAS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE ONa<"/8p!DBC.COM AND I OPENED IT UP TO ALL BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS, FORMER BUSH ADMINISTRATION...
00:13:29
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YOU CONTRIBUTE? GUEST: IRREGULARLY. HOST:tN WE
00:13:35
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WILL TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS.
00:13:37
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STANLEY, FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I HAVE BEEN LISTENING INTO THE CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE THAT
00:13:51
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THE PRESIDENT -- WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO GET FOLKS BACK TO WORK. WE HAVE TO/+Mxn STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. 2aWI BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BRING DOWN THE DEFICIT...
00:14:37
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GUEST: ON THE NEED TO SPEND TO BE ABLE TOfFILL THIS CALL -- I HAVE NEVER BEEN
00:14:44
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BIG ON DEFICIT AND SPENDING. THERE ARE NATURAL NEED FROM TIME TO TIME TO HAVE DEFICITS. IN THE CASE OFjW AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, Isl THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE...
00:17:07
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ONE HEADLINE -- IT IS SPENDING ON LOCAL SPENDING PLUMMETED. THEY SPEND ON ROADS, SCHOOLS, ALL CONSTRUCTION PRODUCTS SO FAST THAT FEDERAL STIMULUS MONEY...
00:17:33
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OF $125 BILLION IN THE YEAR AHEAD. IT IS NOT JUST THAT THEY ARE STOPPING PROJECTS, THEY WILL BE LAYING OFF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS INCLUDING...
00:18:41
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JENNIFER WHO TURNED TO TWITTER AFTER THE CALL IN ON THE AIR. [LAUGHTER] LAGUNA, CALIF., GETTING UP EARLY IS NEXT. GUEST:KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS HAS NEVER...
00:20:39
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GENERATE GROWTH WITH GOVERNMENT SPENDING OR SOME KIND OF FISCAL STIMULUS. THEY ARE FAR LESS UNDERSTANDING OF DEALING WITH BUSINESS CYCLES AND THE INFLUENCE...
00:22:33
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SPEAKING EASYGOING TYPES? WHERE DO YOU GUYS AGREE? GUEST: WE DISAGREE ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. HE IS NOT AN IDEOLOGUE ABOUT THIS.
00:22:45
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YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WHEN YOU HAVE A 50 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED. YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO HELP THEM. ALL OF THOSE FAMILIES WILL HAVE A FINANCIAL...
00:24:11
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GUEST: MOST OF THE PRESS HAS -- HOST: MOST OF THE PRESS IS REPORTING THAT THE DEFICIT IS THE WORST THING
00:24:19
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EVER. HUGH IS JOINING US
00:24:23
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FROM ASLAND, VIRGINIA. GUEST: I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE FROM A "WALL STREET
00:24:34
GUEST, -
JOURNAL" ARTICLE FROM 1983. YOU CAN IN GOOGLE CREATIVITY 777.COM. WEB SITES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM THE ENTIRE GLOBAL BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT...
00:25:11
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DEMOCRATS LINE. CALLER: I WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THE ARTICLE ON THE WAR IN CONGRESS. I AM A VICTIM OF THIS WAR. MY UNEMPLOYMENT WILL
00:25:25
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BE CUT OFF. I WISH THAT THE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WERE FIGHTING FOR MY POSITION. HOST: WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE EDITORIAL THAT CONGRESS IS IN A WAR ZONE...
00:25:45
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BOTH PARTIES CAN GET ALONG. GUEST: LETTING UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BENEFITS LAPSE NOW WHEN THERE ARE FIVE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE FOR EVERY JOB
00:25:56
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VACANCY IS PRETTY CLOSE TO CRIMINAL, IN MY VIEW. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND I HOPE IT IS THE CASE THAT FINALLY THE MAJORITY LEADER WOULD TAKE A BILL TO...
00:27:15
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CONGRESS THEY RESPOND QUICKLY AND POSITIVELY WITH NO AT -- AID AND THE DEBT IS $16 TRILLION AND GROWING. GUEST: I REMEMBER DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION...
00:27:40
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TO CONGRESS AND TESTIFIED ON THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY ENDING DEFICITS WHICH AT THAT TIME WERE IN THE $300 BILLION RANGE. HE TALKED ABOUT CROWDING OUT THE...
00:30:38
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THAT WOULD SAVE THE STATES FROM THIS PROBLEM. GERMANY DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS IN A RECESSION BECAUSE THEY HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE. FRANCE...
00:31:43
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IN THE U.S. SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TONY FRATTO. GUEST: IT IS MY BIRTHDAY AND I DON'T NORMALLY RECOGNIZE IT PUBLICLY AND I TRY TO KEEP IT QUIET.
00:32:01
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GUEST: FACEBOOK MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP YOUR BIRTHDAY SECRET. IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS. THANK YOU.
00:32:07
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FOR RECOGNIZING MY BIRTHDAY. HOST: THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE CONVERSATION ON OUR TOUR PAGE. CALLER: HAPPY ANNIVERSARY OF YOUR
00:32:19
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BIRTH PAREN.
00:32:24
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HOW WOULD LIKE BOTH OF YOUR INSIGHT. I KNOW I AM SLOW MENTALLY. I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN AMERICA THAT IS. I AM NOT GOOD WITH THE ARITHMETIC AND WE...
00:34:22
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BEEN RECOVERING FROM THE WORST FINANCIAL CRISIS IN 75 YEARS. WE LOST $12 TRILLION WORTH OF WEALTH THAT. HAS LED TO A DECLINE IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. YOU...
00:36:01
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FRIDAY MORNING AT 5:20 A.M., BUT CONGRESS WILL VOTE ON THE REFORM -- FINANCIAL REFORM BILL. THE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT IT. >> I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHY THESE...
00:36:20
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THERE WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH OVERSIGHT ON WALL STREET. WE CANNOT BUILD A STRONG ECONOMY IN AMERICA OVER THE LONG RUN WITHOUT ENDING THE STATUS QUO. WE...
00:37:14
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NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO. IT LEFT OUT
00:37:17
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ANY TREATMENT FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC WHICH ARE HUGE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE HOUSING BUBBLE AND THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. IT DOES NOT TAKE A STRONG LOOK...
00:38:20
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COMPLIMENT BENEFITS DO NOT GET EXTENDED, WATCH THE ECONOMY CRASH ALL OVER AGAIN. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE
00:38:31
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SUBJECT OF INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING. I SEEM TO SEE A RESISTANCE. TO THIS SPENDING. I HEAR THAT IT IS DIFFICULT POLITICALLY. I HEAR PORK SPENDING AND THAT...
00:40:36
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A PROBLEM FOR YEARS AHEAD, THE DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THESE PROJECTS ARE SHOVEL-READY OR WHAT SHOULD WE BE FUNDED INFRASTRUCTURE? I THINK WE NEED TO INVEST...
00:41:48
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CALLER: WELCOME TO YOUR GUESTS AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ONE OF THEM
00:41:58
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PARABOLAN. I WAS LISTENING TO BOTH OF THEM TALK AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE MORE INTELLIGENCE ABOUT THIS THAN ANYBODY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. INCLUDING OUR PRESIDENT...
00:43:24
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MONEY AND WE KNOW THAT IT CAN -- BY SPENDING THAT MONEY YOU KEEP SOME PEOPLE EMPLOYED. THE QUESTION THAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHETHER WE ARE CREATING SOUND...
00:45:52
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN INTEREST ON THE DEBT OUTPACES REVENUE? GUEST: THAT WOULD BE A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. WE ARE NOWHERE CLOSE TO THAT. THERE IS A
00:46:05
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LOT OF FEAR MORE DURING -- THERE IS A LOT OF FEAR MONGERING BUT WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO THAT PROBLEM. OUR DEFICIT RIGHT NOW, HALF OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE RECESSION....
00:47:30
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GIVEN THE NATION THE BEST POSSIBLE UN-
00:47:34
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BIRTHDAY PRESENT IN THE STABILITY OF THIS DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CANNOT ACHIEVE THAT MORE NATIONALLY. I WAS ALWAYS PLEASED WITH MR. FRATTO WHEN...
00:48:50
GUEST, -
HOST: CAN THE GOVERNMENT AFFORD TO SUPPORT THE UNEMPLOYED UNTIL THE ECONOMY STRENGTHENS? AM I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER?
00:49:00
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GUEST: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT EARLIER. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS OUT THERE -- WE
00:49:09
GUEST, -
STARTED OUT WITH INITIAL UNEMPLOYMENT AT 26 WEEKS AND WE ARE NOW UP TO 99 WEEKS. THAT IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OF BEING ON UNEMPLOYMENT AND THAT IS GIVING...
00:49:53
GUEST, -
OR THAT INDIVIDUAL EXTENSION OF A PROGRAM WILL ADD TO THE DEBT OR THE DEFICIT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT IN TOTALITY AND NOT...
00:51:11
GUEST, -
IT WAS NOT PART OF PAYGO BUT WE TALK ABOUT AUSTERITY AND GERMANY. THEIR BASIC UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT GOES FOR TWO YEARS. THE DIFFERENCE IS, THEY HAVE...
00:51:56
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YOU CANNOT COMPARE THEM TO THE
00:51:59
GUEST, -
UNITED STATES BECAUSE THE MODEL IN GERMANY IS YOU ARE PAYING PEOPLE TO STAY ON THEIR JOBS. THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZES THEIR INCOME SO THEY ARE ON THE...
00:53:02
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THE REPUBLICAN LINE FROM INDIANA, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I AM A CONSERVATIVE, FAR RIGHT KIND OF FELLOW
00:53:14
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AND CONSERVATIVE WOULD SPEND IT. THE ONE THING I THINK WE COULD ALL -- THAT I HOPE WE COULD ALL COME TO AGREEMENT ON IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES TO...
00:55:04
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MANY YEARS. WE GET INTO THESE LITTLE
00:55:09
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LABELS. WE HOLD OUR FLAGS. I AM A PROUD AMERICAN. I SERVED THIS COUNTRY. I AM PROUD PATRIOTS. I LOVE OUR COUNTRY. I DESPISE THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PROGRESSIVE...
00:55:42
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ADMINISTRATION BACK IN THE 1800'S WHEN THE GOVERNMENT -- HE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE ANYTHING. THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY FUNDED THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT...
00:56:55
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AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS OUT
00:56:58
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THERE ONE QUESTION. IF THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT DO WHAT THEY DID WITH THE BANKING AND GENERAL MOTORS AND ALL OF THAT AND THEY DID NOT BAIL THESE PEOPLE...
00:57:22
GUEST, -
IT MIGHT BE JUST ME AND AND RECALLS SEN. -- IT MIGHT BEAT ME AND HANK PAULSON. YOU AND I WOULD AGREE THAT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN SOMETHING VERY LIKE THE...
00:58:19
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AS THEY WERE WITH THE CUTBACKS IN BENEFITS AND SO FORTH? GUEST: THAT IS TRUE. THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE WITH DISLOCATED WORKERS. WHEN THEY
00:58:32
GUEST, -
FIND A JOB, IT IS USUALLY THE CASE WHERE 3/4 FIND A JOB, BUT MOST OF THEM IT TAKES THEM 10 YEARS TO RETURN TO THE LEVELS OF EARNINGS AND BENEFITS THEY...
00:58:53
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GET UNEMPLOYMENT? GUEST: THE VIEW OF THE UNEMPLOYED IS WRONG. THEY ARE DESPERATE TO FIND JOBS. THERE ARE
00:59:01
GUEST, -
PEOPLE THAT DO NOT GET BENEFITS IF THEY ARE NOT SEEKING WORK. THAT IS THE FIRST THING. THEY HAVE TO BE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR WORK. MANY OF THESE PEOPLE...
00:59:42
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MADE VERY, ACTIVE TRADER. I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY. I HAVE MET SOME OF THE VERY BEST AND...
01:00:38
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OUR INSTITUTE TWEETS BUT I DO NOT. HOST: WE WILL GO TO CARL IN PHILADELPHIA. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, HOW ARE YOU?
01:00:54
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01:00:57
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LET'S EXAMINE HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE. LOOK AT HOUSING. IT WAS STATUARY TO INFLATION. MORE AND MORE DOLLARS CHASING GOODS AND SERVICES. WHEN YOU HAVE...
01:01:57
GUEST, -
TO% INFLATION IS VERY LOW. THAT IS WHAT -- TWO% INFLATION IS VERY LOW. FOR THE LAST DECADE, INFLATION HAS AVERAGED LESS THAN 3%. GUEST: DOES NOT REALLY...
01:02:19
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GOING INTO THIS CRISIS AND STARTING FROM THE MID-1990'S, WE WERE IN MAYBE THE MOST UNIQUE BENIGN ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT OF ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY WHICH WAS...
01:03:08
HOST, -
GUEST: IF YOU DON'T $900 BILLION -- IF YOU DUMP $900 BILLION INTO THE U.S. ECONOMY,
01:03:23
GUEST, -
THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. THAT WAS NEVER A QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER THAT WAS SUGAR FOR THE ECONOMY OR WHETHER IT WAS THE GOOD FOOD STAPLES...
01:05:57
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I AM A 55-YEAR OLD
01:06:02
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LADY ON UNEMPLOYMENT NOW FOR ALMOST ONE YEAR. I KEEP HEARING THAT WE CANNOT GET THIS BILL PASSED OR IT WAS NOT PASSED BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS. I HAVE...
01:06:37
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DID YOU DO BEFORE THAT? CALLER: I WAS MAINLY GOING TO SCHOOL TO GET A DEGREE.
01:06:42
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01:06:43
HOST, -
HOST: HOW MUCH MONEY OR YOU LEARNED BEFORE YOU WERE LAID OFF?
01:06:46
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CALLER: ABOUT $45,000. HOST: WHAT ARE
01:06:50
HOST, -
YOU GETTING ON UNEMPLOYMENT? CALLER: $360 PER WEEK.
01:06:54
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01:06:56
HOST, -
HOST: WHAT IS YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE? CALLER:
01:06:59
CALLER, -
IN THE HEALTH FIELD. HOST: DO YOU OWN OR RENT? CALLER: I OWN MY
01:07:03
HOST, -
HOME.
01:07:05
CALLER, -
HOST: YOU HAVE CHILDREN? CALLER:
01:07:07
HOST, -
11 CHILDREN. --TWO
01:07:09
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01:07:11
HOST, -
01:07:13
CALLER, -
CHILDREN. IT IS A DONE DEAL OR WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE. WHAT DO WE DO NOW? GUEST: THERE IS HOPE. THERE ARE 15 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED
01:07:28
GUEST, -
RIGHT NOW AND 8 MILLION MORE FOR WORKING PART TIME. I HOPE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL CONTACT THEIR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND TELL THEM THAT YOU CANNOT DO...
01:08:40
GUEST, -
CAPITOL HILL RIGHT NOW WANT TO EXTEND IT. MY MESSAGE TO THE CALLER IS THAT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT WILL GET EXTENDED. WE NEED TO...
01:09:25
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FRATTO IS THE FORMER PRESS SECRETARY TO PRESIDENT BUSH. PLEASE COME BACK AGAIN WE HAD HOPED THAT THE STATE SENATOR WOULD JOIN US TO TALK ABOUT THE ARIZONA...

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