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AND SENATE THIS WEEK. OUR TWO GUESTS TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND DEFINITE SPENDING AND WHERE THE WORLD STANDS WORLD BIDE. WITH THE ECONOMIC POLICY...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
BILL --
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HOST, -
GUEST: ONE IS THE FACT THAT SO MUCH REGULATORY DISCRETION WAS LEFT TO THE REGULATORS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THREE OR
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GUEST, -
FOUR YEARS GOING FORWARD. I THINK OF THIS AS A FULL EMPLOYMENT BILL FOR LOBBYISTS AND LAWYERS FOR FINANCIAL FIRMS WORKING WITH THE REGULATORS TO ...
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CAN YOU PLAIN THE SFANS? >> WELL, DERIVATIVES ARE BETS. THEY ARE -- THEY COVER AN
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Unidentified Speaker, -
ENORMOUS RANGE OF THINGS. YOU CAN HAVE DERIVATIVES ON EVERYTHING FROM THE WEATHER TO THE PRICE OF SUGAR A YEAR FROM NOW. THE PRICE OF GASOLINE A YEAR...
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| 00:04:12 |
HOST, -
FOR -- INCLUDING THE FEDERAL DESERVE AND SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION AND THE FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION. WHEN THE BANKERS CONVENED...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
WEEKS. ESPECIALLY WHEN ONCE THEY GOT INTO CONFERENCE AS TO WHAT THE FINAL LEGISLATION WOULD LOOK LIKE, MADE A DETERMINATION THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT...
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| 00:06:18 |
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DAVID CAMRON OF GREAT BRITAIN AND OS SAYING WE CAN'T SPEND MORE. WE GOT TO BRING DOWN OUR OWN DEFICIT. SO CAN YOU PLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPENDING...
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GUEST, -
IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF THE SUBPRIME DISASTER BOTH IN THE STOCK MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD AND IN HOUSING MARKETS. TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS...
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| 00:08:30 |
HOST, -
ANNOUNCING THEIR PLANS TO ACCOUNT THEIR BUNL ETC AND QUOTE THE ECONOMIST WHO SAYS GERMAN AUSTERITY WILL WORSEN THE CRISIS IN THE EURO AREA. >> WELL, HE...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
HAD DESCRIBED. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO DISCUSS, AND WITH RESPECT TO THE GERMANS. WELL, DR. CRUGMAN AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
MIDST OF FINANCIAL AND CYCLICAL DOWNTURNS. GUEST: WE ARE A THING TENT THAT FOCUSES ON LABOR PROBLEMS. HOST: YOU HAVE THIS CHART THAT FOCUSES ON RECOVERY
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| 00:10:35 |
GUEST, -
AND JOB GROWTH BEFORE AND AFTER RECOVERY. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THIS
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| 00:10:39 |
HOST, -
TO? GUEST: THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SINGLE PICTURES YOU CAN HAVE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ECONOMY. STARTING AT THE START OF THE
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| 00:10:48 |
GUEST, -
RECESSION IN DECEMBER, 2007, THE BEGINNING OF JOB LOSSES THAT ENDED UP AT 700,000 PER MONTH THE ECONOMY CRATERED ALL OF THAT DEMAND. $12 TRILLION WAS...
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| 00:12:09 |
GUEST, -
MY RIDING THAT I WAS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE ONa<"/8p!DBC.COM AND I OPENED IT UP TO ALL BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS, FORMER BUSH ADMINISTRATION...
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| 00:13:29 |
GUEST, -
YOU CONTRIBUTE? GUEST: IRREGULARLY. HOST:tN WE
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Unidentified Speaker, -
WILL TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS.
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GUEST, -
STANLEY, FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I HAVE BEEN LISTENING INTO THE CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE THAT
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| 00:13:51 |
CALLER, -
THE PRESIDENT -- WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO GET FOLKS BACK TO WORK. WE HAVE TO/+Mxn STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. 2aWI BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BRING DOWN THE DEFICIT...
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| 00:14:37 |
HOST, -
GUEST: ON THE NEED TO SPEND TO BE ABLE TOfFILL THIS CALL -- I HAVE NEVER BEEN
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GUEST, -
BIG ON DEFICIT AND SPENDING. THERE ARE NATURAL NEED FROM TIME TO TIME TO HAVE DEFICITS. IN THE CASE OFjW AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, Isl THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE...
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| 00:17:07 |
HOST, -
ONE HEADLINE -- IT IS SPENDING ON LOCAL SPENDING PLUMMETED. THEY SPEND ON ROADS, SCHOOLS, ALL CONSTRUCTION PRODUCTS SO FAST THAT FEDERAL STIMULUS MONEY...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
OF $125 BILLION IN THE YEAR AHEAD. IT IS NOT JUST THAT THEY ARE STOPPING PROJECTS, THEY WILL BE LAYING OFF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS INCLUDING...
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| 00:18:41 |
HOST, -
JENNIFER WHO TURNED TO TWITTER AFTER THE CALL IN ON THE AIR. [LAUGHTER] LAGUNA, CALIF., GETTING UP EARLY IS NEXT. GUEST:KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS HAS NEVER...
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| 00:20:39 |
GUEST, -
GENERATE GROWTH WITH GOVERNMENT SPENDING OR SOME KIND OF FISCAL STIMULUS. THEY ARE FAR LESS UNDERSTANDING OF DEALING WITH BUSINESS CYCLES AND THE INFLUENCE...
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| 00:22:33 |
HOST, -
SPEAKING EASYGOING TYPES? WHERE DO YOU GUYS AGREE? GUEST: WE DISAGREE ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. HE IS NOT AN IDEOLOGUE ABOUT THIS.
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GUEST, -
YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WHEN YOU HAVE A 50 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED. YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO HELP THEM. ALL OF THOSE FAMILIES WILL HAVE A FINANCIAL...
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| 00:24:11 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: MOST OF THE PRESS HAS -- HOST: MOST OF THE PRESS IS REPORTING THAT THE DEFICIT IS THE WORST THING
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GUEST, -
EVER. HUGH IS JOINING US
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| 00:24:23 |
HOST, -
FROM ASLAND, VIRGINIA. GUEST: I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE FROM A "WALL STREET
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GUEST, -
JOURNAL" ARTICLE FROM 1983. YOU CAN IN GOOGLE CREATIVITY 777.COM. WEB SITES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM THE ENTIRE GLOBAL BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT...
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| 00:25:11 |
HOST, -
DEMOCRATS LINE. CALLER: I WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THE ARTICLE ON THE WAR IN CONGRESS. I AM A VICTIM OF THIS WAR. MY UNEMPLOYMENT WILL
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CALLER, -
BE CUT OFF. I WISH THAT THE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WERE FIGHTING FOR MY POSITION. HOST: WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE EDITORIAL THAT CONGRESS IS IN A WAR ZONE...
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HOST, -
BOTH PARTIES CAN GET ALONG. GUEST: LETTING UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BENEFITS LAPSE NOW WHEN THERE ARE FIVE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE FOR EVERY JOB
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| 00:25:56 |
GUEST, -
VACANCY IS PRETTY CLOSE TO CRIMINAL, IN MY VIEW. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND I HOPE IT IS THE CASE THAT FINALLY THE MAJORITY LEADER WOULD TAKE A BILL TO...
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| 00:27:15 |
HOST, -
CONGRESS THEY RESPOND QUICKLY AND POSITIVELY WITH NO AT -- AID AND THE DEBT IS $16 TRILLION AND GROWING. GUEST: I REMEMBER DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION...
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| 00:27:40 |
GUEST, -
TO CONGRESS AND TESTIFIED ON THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY ENDING DEFICITS WHICH AT THAT TIME WERE IN THE $300 BILLION RANGE. HE TALKED ABOUT CROWDING OUT THE...
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| 00:30:38 |
GUEST, -
THAT WOULD SAVE THE STATES FROM THIS PROBLEM. GERMANY DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS IN A RECESSION BECAUSE THEY HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE. FRANCE...
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| 00:31:43 |
HOST, -
IN THE U.S. SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TONY FRATTO. GUEST: IT IS MY BIRTHDAY AND I DON'T NORMALLY RECOGNIZE IT PUBLICLY AND I TRY TO KEEP IT QUIET.
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| 00:32:01 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: FACEBOOK MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP YOUR BIRTHDAY SECRET. IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS. THANK YOU.
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| 00:32:07 |
GUEST, -
FOR RECOGNIZING MY BIRTHDAY. HOST: THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE CONVERSATION ON OUR TOUR PAGE. CALLER: HAPPY ANNIVERSARY OF YOUR
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HOST, -
BIRTH PAREN.
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| 00:32:24 |
CALLER, -
HOW WOULD LIKE BOTH OF YOUR INSIGHT. I KNOW I AM SLOW MENTALLY. I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN AMERICA THAT IS. I AM NOT GOOD WITH THE ARITHMETIC AND WE...
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| 00:34:22 |
GUEST, -
BEEN RECOVERING FROM THE WORST FINANCIAL CRISIS IN 75 YEARS. WE LOST $12 TRILLION WORTH OF WEALTH THAT. HAS LED TO A DECLINE IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. YOU...
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| 00:36:01 |
HOST, -
FRIDAY MORNING AT 5:20 A.M., BUT CONGRESS WILL VOTE ON THE REFORM -- FINANCIAL REFORM BILL. THE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT IT. >> I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHY THESE...
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| 00:36:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THERE WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH OVERSIGHT ON WALL STREET. WE CANNOT BUILD A STRONG ECONOMY IN AMERICA OVER THE LONG RUN WITHOUT ENDING THE STATUS QUO. WE...
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| 00:37:14 |
HOST, -
NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO. IT LEFT OUT
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| 00:37:17 |
GUEST, -
ANY TREATMENT FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC WHICH ARE HUGE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE HOUSING BUBBLE AND THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. IT DOES NOT TAKE A STRONG LOOK...
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| 00:38:20 |
HOST, -
COMPLIMENT BENEFITS DO NOT GET EXTENDED, WATCH THE ECONOMY CRASH ALL OVER AGAIN. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE
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| 00:38:31 |
CALLER, -
SUBJECT OF INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING. I SEEM TO SEE A RESISTANCE. TO THIS SPENDING. I HEAR THAT IT IS DIFFICULT POLITICALLY. I HEAR PORK SPENDING AND THAT...
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| 00:40:36 |
GUEST, -
A PROBLEM FOR YEARS AHEAD, THE DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THESE PROJECTS ARE SHOVEL-READY OR WHAT SHOULD WE BE FUNDED INFRASTRUCTURE? I THINK WE NEED TO INVEST...
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| 00:41:48 |
HOST, -
CALLER: WELCOME TO YOUR GUESTS AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ONE OF THEM
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| 00:41:58 |
CALLER, -
PARABOLAN. I WAS LISTENING TO BOTH OF THEM TALK AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE MORE INTELLIGENCE ABOUT THIS THAN ANYBODY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. INCLUDING OUR PRESIDENT...
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| 00:43:24 |
GUEST, -
MONEY AND WE KNOW THAT IT CAN -- BY SPENDING THAT MONEY YOU KEEP SOME PEOPLE EMPLOYED. THE QUESTION THAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHETHER WE ARE CREATING SOUND...
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| 00:45:52 |
HOST, -
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN INTEREST ON THE DEBT OUTPACES REVENUE? GUEST: THAT WOULD BE A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. WE ARE NOWHERE CLOSE TO THAT. THERE IS A
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| 00:46:05 |
GUEST, -
LOT OF FEAR MORE DURING -- THERE IS A LOT OF FEAR MONGERING BUT WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO THAT PROBLEM. OUR DEFICIT RIGHT NOW, HALF OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE RECESSION....
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| 00:47:30 |
HOST, -
GIVEN THE NATION THE BEST POSSIBLE UN-
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| 00:47:34 |
CALLER, -
BIRTHDAY PRESENT IN THE STABILITY OF THIS DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CANNOT ACHIEVE THAT MORE NATIONALLY. I WAS ALWAYS PLEASED WITH MR. FRATTO WHEN...
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| 00:48:50 |
GUEST, -
HOST: CAN THE GOVERNMENT AFFORD TO SUPPORT THE UNEMPLOYED UNTIL THE ECONOMY STRENGTHENS? AM I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER?
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| 00:49:00 |
HOST, -
GUEST: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT EARLIER. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS OUT THERE -- WE
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| 00:49:09 |
GUEST, -
STARTED OUT WITH INITIAL UNEMPLOYMENT AT 26 WEEKS AND WE ARE NOW UP TO 99 WEEKS. THAT IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OF BEING ON UNEMPLOYMENT AND THAT IS GIVING...
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| 00:49:53 |
GUEST, -
OR THAT INDIVIDUAL EXTENSION OF A PROGRAM WILL ADD TO THE DEBT OR THE DEFICIT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT IN TOTALITY AND NOT...
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| 00:51:11 |
GUEST, -
IT WAS NOT PART OF PAYGO BUT WE TALK ABOUT AUSTERITY AND GERMANY. THEIR BASIC UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT GOES FOR TWO YEARS. THE DIFFERENCE IS, THEY HAVE...
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HOST, -
YOU CANNOT COMPARE THEM TO THE
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GUEST, -
UNITED STATES BECAUSE THE MODEL IN GERMANY IS YOU ARE PAYING PEOPLE TO STAY ON THEIR JOBS. THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZES THEIR INCOME SO THEY ARE ON THE...
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| 00:53:02 |
HOST, -
THE REPUBLICAN LINE FROM INDIANA, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I AM A CONSERVATIVE, FAR RIGHT KIND OF FELLOW
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| 00:53:14 |
CALLER, -
AND CONSERVATIVE WOULD SPEND IT. THE ONE THING I THINK WE COULD ALL -- THAT I HOPE WE COULD ALL COME TO AGREEMENT ON IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES TO...
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| 00:55:04 |
HOST, -
MANY YEARS. WE GET INTO THESE LITTLE
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| 00:55:09 |
CALLER, -
LABELS. WE HOLD OUR FLAGS. I AM A PROUD AMERICAN. I SERVED THIS COUNTRY. I AM PROUD PATRIOTS. I LOVE OUR COUNTRY. I DESPISE THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PROGRESSIVE...
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| 00:55:42 |
GUEST, -
ADMINISTRATION BACK IN THE 1800'S WHEN THE GOVERNMENT -- HE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE ANYTHING. THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY FUNDED THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT...
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| 00:56:55 |
HOST, -
AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS OUT
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| 00:56:58 |
CALLER, -
THERE ONE QUESTION. IF THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT DO WHAT THEY DID WITH THE BANKING AND GENERAL MOTORS AND ALL OF THAT AND THEY DID NOT BAIL THESE PEOPLE...
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| 00:57:22 |
GUEST, -
IT MIGHT BE JUST ME AND AND RECALLS SEN. -- IT MIGHT BEAT ME AND HANK PAULSON. YOU AND I WOULD AGREE THAT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN SOMETHING VERY LIKE THE...
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| 00:58:19 |
HOST, -
AS THEY WERE WITH THE CUTBACKS IN BENEFITS AND SO FORTH? GUEST: THAT IS TRUE. THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE WITH DISLOCATED WORKERS. WHEN THEY
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| 00:58:32 |
GUEST, -
FIND A JOB, IT IS USUALLY THE CASE WHERE 3/4 FIND A JOB, BUT MOST OF THEM IT TAKES THEM 10 YEARS TO RETURN TO THE LEVELS OF EARNINGS AND BENEFITS THEY...
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| 00:58:53 |
HOST, -
GET UNEMPLOYMENT? GUEST: THE VIEW OF THE UNEMPLOYED IS WRONG. THEY ARE DESPERATE TO FIND JOBS. THERE ARE
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| 00:59:01 |
GUEST, -
PEOPLE THAT DO NOT GET BENEFITS IF THEY ARE NOT SEEKING WORK. THAT IS THE FIRST THING. THEY HAVE TO BE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR WORK. MANY OF THESE PEOPLE...
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| 00:59:42 |
HOST, -
MADE VERY, ACTIVE TRADER. I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY. I HAVE MET SOME OF THE VERY BEST AND...
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| 01:00:38 |
GUEST, -
OUR INSTITUTE TWEETS BUT I DO NOT. HOST: WE WILL GO TO CARL IN PHILADELPHIA. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, HOW ARE YOU?
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| 01:00:54 |
HOST, -
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| 01:00:57 |
CALLER, -
LET'S EXAMINE HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE. LOOK AT HOUSING. IT WAS STATUARY TO INFLATION. MORE AND MORE DOLLARS CHASING GOODS AND SERVICES. WHEN YOU HAVE...
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| 01:01:57 |
GUEST, -
TO% INFLATION IS VERY LOW. THAT IS WHAT -- TWO% INFLATION IS VERY LOW. FOR THE LAST DECADE, INFLATION HAS AVERAGED LESS THAN 3%. GUEST: DOES NOT REALLY...
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| 01:02:19 |
GUEST, -
GOING INTO THIS CRISIS AND STARTING FROM THE MID-1990'S, WE WERE IN MAYBE THE MOST UNIQUE BENIGN ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT OF ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY WHICH WAS...
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| 01:03:08 |
HOST, -
GUEST: IF YOU DON'T $900 BILLION -- IF YOU DUMP $900 BILLION INTO THE U.S. ECONOMY,
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| 01:03:23 |
GUEST, -
THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. THAT WAS NEVER A QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER THAT WAS SUGAR FOR THE ECONOMY OR WHETHER IT WAS THE GOOD FOOD STAPLES...
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| 01:05:57 |
HOST, -
I AM A 55-YEAR OLD
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| 01:06:02 |
CALLER, -
LADY ON UNEMPLOYMENT NOW FOR ALMOST ONE YEAR. I KEEP HEARING THAT WE CANNOT GET THIS BILL PASSED OR IT WAS NOT PASSED BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS. I HAVE...
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| 01:06:37 |
HOST, -
DID YOU DO BEFORE THAT? CALLER: I WAS MAINLY GOING TO SCHOOL TO GET A DEGREE.
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| 01:06:42 |
CALLER, -
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| 01:06:43 |
HOST, -
HOST: HOW MUCH MONEY OR YOU LEARNED BEFORE YOU WERE LAID OFF?
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| 01:06:46 |
CALLER, -
CALLER: ABOUT $45,000. HOST: WHAT ARE
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| 01:06:50 |
HOST, -
YOU GETTING ON UNEMPLOYMENT? CALLER: $360 PER WEEK.
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| 01:06:54 |
CALLER, -
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| 01:06:56 |
HOST, -
HOST: WHAT IS YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE? CALLER:
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| 01:06:59 |
CALLER, -
IN THE HEALTH FIELD. HOST: DO YOU OWN OR RENT? CALLER: I OWN MY
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| 01:07:03 |
HOST, -
HOME.
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| 01:07:05 |
CALLER, -
HOST: YOU HAVE CHILDREN? CALLER:
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| 01:07:07 |
HOST, -
11 CHILDREN. --TWO
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| 01:07:09 |
CALLER, -
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| 01:07:11 |
HOST, -
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| 01:07:13 |
CALLER, -
CHILDREN. IT IS A DONE DEAL OR WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE. WHAT DO WE DO NOW? GUEST: THERE IS HOPE. THERE ARE 15 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED
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| 01:07:28 |
GUEST, -
RIGHT NOW AND 8 MILLION MORE FOR WORKING PART TIME. I HOPE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL CONTACT THEIR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND TELL THEM THAT YOU CANNOT DO...
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| 01:08:40 |
GUEST, -
CAPITOL HILL RIGHT NOW WANT TO EXTEND IT. MY MESSAGE TO THE CALLER IS THAT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT WILL GET EXTENDED. WE NEED TO...
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| 01:09:25 |
HOST, -
FRATTO IS THE FORMER PRESS SECRETARY TO PRESIDENT BUSH. PLEASE COME BACK AGAIN WE HAD HOPED THAT THE STATE SENATOR WOULD JOIN US TO TALK ABOUT THE ARIZONA...
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