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I SERVED FOR FOUR YEARS AND FROM MY OWN CAMP CAMAIGNS ARE HOUSED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF OF TEXAS IN AUSTIN AND THE WAY THAT HAPPENED IS DON CARLTON...
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| 00:02:04 |
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ABOUT THEIR PAPERS, BUT BECAUSE I HAD BEEN CONTACTED EARLY ON BY DON CARLTON, MY STAFF STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THEY WEREN'T ASSUMING...
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| 00:02:58 |
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OLDER FILES ACTUALLY WERE STORED AT A WAREHOUSE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MAINTAINED BY THE ARCHIVES. IT WAS AN AWFUL LOCATION AT THE HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING....
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| 00:07:43 |
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WAY. >> YOU WERE ELECTED IN '78? >> NO, I WAS LECHED IN '7
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| 00:07:50 |
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AND STARTED IN '77. I SPENT TIME THINKING ABOUT MY REMARKS WHICH WASN'T
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| 00:07:56 |
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WHAT I DID WHEN I WAS MAKING REMARKS IN THE CONGRESS, SO -- AS I WAS DOING IT IT SUDDENLY OCCURRED TO ME THESE OLD SAYINGS FROM THE POGO COMIC STRIP....
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| 00:18:38 |
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BOB. IT WAS A MREB YOU ARE FOR ME TO
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| 00:18:43 |
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JOIN MY FORMER COLLEAGUES THIS AFTERNOON AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU REGARDING MY PAPERS. I TALKED WITH RICHARD HUNT THIS MORNING AND...
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| 00:31:03 |
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SHOULD BE ORAL HISTORIES. I'VE NEVER DONE AN ORAL HISTORY, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL -- THIS STORY WILL NEVER APPEAR IN ANY OF OUR OFFICIAL PAPERS,...
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| 00:31:42 |
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WERE A LOT MORE STEEL COMPANY
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| 00:31:44 |
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RETIREES THAN THERE WERE AEROSPACE RETIREES. AND LOU AND I DECIDED EARLY ON THAT WE WERE GOING TO SEEK A CHANGE IN THE BANKRUPTCY CODE TO MAKE SURE...
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| 00:33:58 |
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MR. PAYNE, WHO DID SUCCEED RODINO AT SOME POINT, HE'S NEVER FORGOTTEN EITHER. >> BECAUSE IT TOOK HIM A WHILE. >> RIGHT. >> WE'VE
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| 00:34:11 |
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HAD HISTORY MADE TODAY AND RECORDED. IF WE HAVE A HALL OF
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| 00:34:16 |
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FAME FOR CONGRESSIONAL
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| 00:34:18 |
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COLLECTIONS, I THINK WE HAVE THE CHARTER MEMBERS HERE. EXEMPLARY OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THEY'VE OPENED UP SO MANY DOORS...
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| 00:34:54 |
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YOU. YOUR TENURE OVERLAPS TWO COLLECTIONS THAT I'VE WORKED ON, AND I BELIEVE I'VE SEEN YOUR NAMES THERE, BOTH IN GOLDWATER'S AND IN ANOTHER. AND...
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| 00:35:22 |
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ARE SOMEWHAT THE SAME IN THAT HIS GRANDFATHER WAS JEWISH AND ESTABLISHED A DEPARTMENT STORE, GOLDWATER'S. MY FAMILY ESTABLISHED A DEPARTMENT STORE IN...
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| 00:35:58 |
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HIM UP AT HIS HOUSE ON THE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN THERE ONE DAY. JON KYL AND I ARE VERY CLOSE FRIENDS, AND I WAS OUT IN ARIZONA FOR THE FORMULA ONE...
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| 00:36:50 |
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RECALL THAT BECAUSE OF HIS CIVIL RIGHTS RECORD AND BECAUSE OF MY CIVIL RIGHTS RECORD, I DID OPPOSE HIS PRESIDENCY, HIS RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY. >>...
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| 00:37:13 |
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HOW YOU VIEW AND TAKE CARE OF THE DISPOSITION OF E-MAIL AND OTHER ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS. >> WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. AND I DON'T KNOW,...
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| 00:37:26 |
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AM. I KNEW HOW TO DO E-MAIL. I NEVER DID E-MAIL AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, BECAUSE OF ALL THE STORIES ABOUT -- FROM THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AND SOME...
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| 00:38:28 |
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WE WERE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THE WHOLE BUSINESS OF E-MAIL, AND AT THAT TIME YOU WERE NOT EVEN PERMITTED TO DO E-MAIL RETURNS. YOU COULD...
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| 00:41:12 |
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THE ONE THAT I THINK WILL BE MOST INTERESTING, BECAUSE IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY OF THE MEMBERS RIGHT NOW ARE TWITTERING
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| 00:41:19 |
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ON A REGULAR BASIS. >> YEAH, MY EXPERIENCE WAS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME AS BOB'S. I LEFT IN '99,
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| 00:41:28 |
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AND AT THAT TIME THE CONGRESS WAS JUST NOT INTO THE E-MAIL SITUATION. AND IN MY OFFICE I WAS PROUD OF THE FACT THAT I HAD A COMPUTER ON EVERY ONE OF MY...
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| 00:42:13 |
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RESISTED ME, BECAUSE THEY WERE
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| 00:42:15 |
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SO ACCUSTOMED TO A TYPEWRITER, AND THEY RESISTED GOING TO THESE COMPUTERS. AND THEN ONCE THEY GOT ON THE COMPUTERS AND REALLY LEARNED HOW TO USE THEM,...
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| 00:42:36 |
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THE FIRST THING THEY DID WAS GIVE ME A BLACKBERRY, GIVE ME MY COMPUTER, AND I COULDN'T FUNCTION TODAY IN MY CURRENT PRACTICE WITHOUT A BLACKBERRY AND...
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| 00:43:02 |
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| 00:43:04 |
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TODAY. >> NO. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STEVEN VAN BUREN, I'M AT SOUTH DAKOTA STATE UNIVERSITY
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| 00:43:12 |
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WITH SENATOR DASCHLE'S PAPERS, AND YOU JUST EXPLAINED A GOOD 60% OF THE GAPS IN THE EARLY E-MAILS. >> TOM WAS ELECTED IN THE SAME YEAR I WAS IN 1978....
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| 00:43:27 |
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IS FRANK MACKAM, AND I WORK AT THE DIRKSON CONGRESSIONAL CENTER. WE HAVE BOB MICHAEL'S PAPERS, SO WE HAVE A
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| 00:43:34 |
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LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SLANT ON YOUR CAREER THAN PERHAPS IS REFLECTED IN YOUR PAPERS, AND I WANT TO REASSURE YOU, WE HAD A POLITICAL SCIENTIST WHO HAD...
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| 00:44:13 |
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TO PLACE YOUR
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| 00:44:15 |
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PAPERS. IF YOU -- IF YOU KNEW THERE WERE MINIMUM STANDARDS REQUIRED OF A REPOSITORY AND YOU MEASURED YOUR POTENTIAL PLACEMENTS AGAINST THOSE STANDARDS,...
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| 00:44:54 |
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MAYBE THAT WASN'T A CORRECT ASSUMPTION, BUT THEY'RE A BIG SCHOOL. WITH A VERY WELL-ENDOWED, VERY RICH SCHOOL, AND I ASSUMED THAT MAYBE -- I DON'T...
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| 00:45:46 |
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SET OF STANDARDS ISFOR OUR STAFFS AS THEY'RE BEGINNING TO WORK ON ALL OF THIS. A LOT OF THE WORK FALLS TO THE STAFF IN TERMS OF INVESTIGATING JUST HOW...
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| 00:46:50 |
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A REPOSITORY. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HAD MY DUE DILIGENCE TOLD ME THAT THE STANDARD WAS NOT UP TO PAR, I WOULD NOT HAVE PLACED MY PAPERS THERE. >>...
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| 00:47:12 |
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E-MAILS RAISED AN IDEA IN MY
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| 00:47:14 |
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HEAD. YOU ARE ALL PART OF THE LEADERSHIP OF CONGRESS AND BATTLED WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OVER EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. THE ARGUMENT IS OFTEN THAT THEY...
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| 00:48:01 |
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EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS THE FACT THAT
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| 00:48:03 |
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THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS ARE A PART OF THE RECORD IN MANY CASES, I MEAN, AT LEAST AT THE WHITE HOUSE, AND SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE RECORDED, SO I THINK...
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| 00:49:00 |
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IN THIS RESPECT. WHEN WE -- WHEN WE CLOSED DOWN
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| 00:49:04 |
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THE KENNEDY AND KING INVESTIGATION, CONGRESS HAD INDICATED THAT THEY'D GIVE US THIS 2 1/2-YEAR PERIOD, BUT AFTER THAT THERE'D BE NO MORE FUNDING. AND...
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| 00:51:51 |
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SITUATION, BUT NOT VERY MANY, IN THAT I WAS CHAIRMAN OF MY PARTY'S POLITICAL COMMITTEE. THESE ARE ALWAYS CHAIRED BY CURRENT MEMBERS, THE REPUBLICAN...
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| 00:54:14 |
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WITH INDIANA UNIVERSITY. YOU SAID IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO START EARLY AND THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS EARLY. IT MADE
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| 00:54:21 |
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ME WONDER WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW EARLIER PERHAPS THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR YOUR OFFICE...
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| 00:54:42 |
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EXAMPLE. I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND TELLING YOU STORIES. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS LOVE TO TELL STORIES. THERE WAS A YOUNG GIRL IN MY DISTRICT WHO WAS KIDNAPPED,...
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| 00:56:06 |
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MY PREDECESSOR THAT WENT INTO THE NATIONAL -- THE LANGLEY HISTORICAL SOCIETY, SO FROM THE OUTSET ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DISCUSSED WITH MY CHIEF...
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| 00:56:50 |
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OWN MEMOIRS. THE ONE THING I NOW WISH THAT I HAD DONE, I SAW ONE MEMBER OF CONGRESS DO, VERY DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN, WILLIAM BILL NATCHER. EVERY DAY...
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| 00:57:36 |
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| 00:57:38 |
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NIGHT. HE WOULD ALWAYS PUT A LITTLE PIECE OF CHANGE IN THERE. >> WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY SESSION. COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, OF
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| 00:57:51 |
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THANKS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SESSION. THANK YOU. >> SO, YOU'RE THE GUY BEHIND ALL THE -- >>>
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| 00:58:11 |
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