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WIN THE NOMNAGDZNOM NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT. KENNEDY'S LANDSLIDE VICTORY IN THE STATE PROVED THAT A CATHOLIC COULD BE A VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT,...
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THE LIBRARY'S DIRECTOR, TOM PUTNAM, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. I'D ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS PARTICULAR THANKS TO THE FRIENDS AND NUTRITIONS...
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| 00:07:29 |
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FOLLOWS. 236,000 FOR SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY, 152,000 FOR SENATOR HUBERT HUMPHREY. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN DO THE MATH, THAT'S A LETTER BETTER THAN 60/40...
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| 00:08:53 |
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THE PLENTITUDE OF PRIMARIES THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR IS THAT JOHN KENNEDY REALLY RAN IN VERY FEW OF THEM. AND ONLY TWO THAT MATTERED. THE FIRST WAS...
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| 00:10:15 |
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AN EARLY ATTEMPT BY THE MODERN SYSTEM TO BREAK THROUGH? >> THERE WERE ELEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CARRIED INTO THE MODERN SYSTEM, BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE...
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YEAH. >> AND NOBODY GETS A MONTH ANYMORE UNLESS IT HAPPENS TO BE NEW
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HAMPSHIRE. >>
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ON MY LEFT HERE TO SET THE SCENE SOME MORE, TED, WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF WEST
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VIRGINIA, JUST TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEN-SENATOR KENNEDY, WHO WOULD BE PRESIDENT WITHIN A YEAR OF THAT EVENT? >> FIRST I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING I'VE...
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WHO IS A WISE MAN AND KNOWS EVERYTHING. >> GINGERLY. >> GINGERLY INDEED. THERE WAS ANOTHER PRIMARY THAT
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MATTERED. IN
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OREGON WHERE EVERY CANDIDATE'S NAME BY LAW WAS PUT ON THE BALLOT. AND ONE OF THOSE CANDIDATES WAS THE LOCAL FAVERALORITE SON, WAYNE MORRIS. KENNEDY...
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SORENSON. >> SECOND -- SECOND,
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HE DIDN'T GET THE REST OF THOSE VOTES
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BY BY -- WHAT WAS
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YOUR TERM, DAVE? STIFF STIFF STIFFARMING? >> YEAH. >> PERSUADING WOULD BE A BETTER WORD. AND THOSE THAT AGREED WITH
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| 00:11:53 |
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HIM WERE NO
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LONGER BOSSES. THEY WERE DISTINGUISHED LEADERS. >> STATESMEN. >> BUT IN ANY EVENT, YOU'RE
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| 00:12:07 |
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RIGHT, TOM, THAT EVERYTHING
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| 00:12:11 |
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THE DAY AFTER WEST VIRGINIA WAS DIFFERENT FROM THE DAY BEFORE. THERE HAD BEEN A SERIES OF SURVEY S SURVEYS, EH? A MEMBER -- MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, THEY...
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| 00:14:54 |
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EQUIPPED TO TRY THIS QUESTION. WHAT WAS THE IMPACT OF WEST VIRGINIA ON HIM? THIS GUY YOU KNEW SO WELL WAS ONE KIND OF PERSON BEFORE HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT....
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| 00:15:49 |
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WAY. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE -- THIS WAS A MAJESTIC VICTORY. IT WAS SO INTENSE. IT WAS SO GREAT. AND IT JUST DID GIVE HIM THE TOTAL COMMITMENT....
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| 00:16:31 |
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AS BOTH WRITER
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AND EDITOR. PEOPLE FORGET THAT THERE WAS A POLITICAL SIDE OF HIM BEFORE THERE WAS A -- A JOURNALISTIC SIDE. AND IN 1960, HE WAS NOT JUST RUNNING THE...
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| 00:16:59 |
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MY WIFE,
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ELIZABETH, DID -- ONCE
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I
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GOT INVOLVED IN THE -- I ORIGINALLY
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| 00:17:04 |
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RESISTED BECAUSE I WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND THEN FINALLY I -- I WAS PERSUADED TO DO IT. THEN MY WIFE, ALICE, DID THE CAMPAIGNING FOR ME. AND WHILE...
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| 00:17:43 |
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IN WISCONSIN CHANGED SENATOR KENNEDY? DID HE LEARN STUFF? >> OH, I THINK IT HAD A MARVELOUS HUMANIZING EFFECT ON -- ON KENNEDY. I THINK IT
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| 00:17:55 |
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HAD A GREAT EFFECT ON ROBERT, TOO. I THINK THEY -- THEY LEARNED ABOUT -- THEY LEARNED ABOUT POVERTY AND THEY -- SOMETHING HAPPENED WHERE SOMETHING...
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1960. DESCRIBE THE SETTING FOR THIS PIVOTAL BATTLE. >> WELL, IF -- IT WAS -- A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE, I THINK -- ONE OF THE NICE
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| 00:19:29 |
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THINGS ABOUT -- THERE'S SO MANY OF THE KENNEDY PEOPLE THAT WOULD TELL ME -- WHO CAME DOWN THERE, SPENT A MONTH THERE, WOULD TELL ME, THERE ARE SO MANY...
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| 00:20:33 |
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AT THE VERY
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| 00:20:35 |
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TOP, THERE -- TO DESCRIBE WEST VIRGINIA AS HAVING AN INTELLECTUAL ELITE WOULD BE SOMETHING OF AN EXAGGERATION AT THAT TIME. BUT THERE WERE A NUMBER...
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| 00:22:16 |
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CAMPAIGN WITH THE SENATOR AS WELL AS OPERATED IT. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND? THERE WERE 16 PRIMARIES IN 1960. WHEN ALL OF THIS STARTED...
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| 00:22:46 |
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HAVE SYMPATHY. THIS IS LIKE HERDING CATS. >> ABOUT FDR
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| 00:22:53 |
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JR. ROOSEVELT WAS -- FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT WAS GOD IN WEST VIRGINIA.
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| 00:22:59 |
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A POOR, COAL-MINING STATE, AND HUBERT HUMPHREY TALKED ABOUT ROOSEVELT AND HIS PROGRAM AND HIS POLICIES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE HAD SOMETHING...
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STATE, CERTAINLY EVERY
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LOCAL -- ET
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CETERA, ET CETERA. NOW, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IS -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE BOAST ABOUT TOO OFTEN. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS AT THE TIME, FDR JR....
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| 00:26:29 |
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WELL AS IN WEST VIRGINIA, ABOUT HOW -- FIRST OF ALL, WHAT THE MOOD IN THE CAMPAIGN WAS COMING OUT OF WISCONSIN, WHETHER IT -- >> A LITTLE BIT SMUG. ...
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| 00:26:47 |
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TIME. YOU CAN'T WIN -- WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING REASONABLY WELL. EXCEPT THAT WE WERE A LITTLE SMUG ABOUT IT. AND SO INSTEAD OF COMING OUT THERE AS WE...
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| 00:27:29 |
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COMING? YES. I SAID
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| 00:27:31 |
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HOW DO YOU THINK -- I SAID I'M VOTING FOR THE GUY THAT'S RUNNING AGAINST THAT DAMN CATHOLIC. WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. THIS ISN'T WHAT I CAME OUT HERE FOR....
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| 00:28:22 |
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POSSESSION HERE AT THE LIBRARY A CLIP OF AN APPEARANCE BY SENATOR KENNEDY. IS IT AT THE UNIVERSITY? >> YES. >> IN WHICH HE TAKES A QUESTION AND LAUNCHES...
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| 00:28:38 |
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SPIRITED STATEMENT ON THE
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TOPIC. AND IF THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL HELP IN THE BACKGROUND, WE'LL SHOW THE CLIP AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT. >> AND THEN A YOUNG LADY ASKED THE SENATOR...
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| 00:29:02 |
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YOUR CHURCH AND TO YOUR STATE IF YOU WERE TO BE ELECTED PRESIDENT? >> THE QUESTION IS WHETHER I THINK THAT -- IF
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| 00:29:08 |
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I WERE ELECTED PRESIDENT I WOULD BE DIVIDED BETWEEN TWO LOYALTIES, MY CHURCH AND
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| 00:29:13 |
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MY STATE. LET ME JUST SAY THAT I WOULD NOT. I HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION IN THE 14 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN CONGRESS. IN THE YEARS I WAS IN THE...
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| 00:31:04 |
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LEAD YOU TO DECIDE THAT HERE IS THE MAN TO SUPPORT FOR PRESIDENT. IT'S UP TO YOU. VOTE KENNEDY MAY 10th. >> DAVE, OF ALL THE SO-CALLED ISSUES THAT YOU'VE...
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| 00:31:23 |
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THIS JUST A CONFRONTATION BETWEEN BIGOTRY AND IGNORANCE AND TOLERANCE? >> IT WAS A LEGITIMATE ISSUE IN THE SENSE THAT THE ONLY OTHER TIME THAT...
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| 00:31:39 |
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HAD RUN FOR PRESIDENT, AL SMITH, HAD GONE DOWN TO VERY BIG DEFEAT. AND THERE WERE PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN NOT -- NOT ONLY IN WEST VIRGINIA, BUT IN --...
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| 00:32:25 |
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UNSTRUCTURED SETTINGS, THERE'S AN ENTHUSIASM ABOUT THE ANSWER THAT TELLS ME THAT HE COULDN'T WAIT TO GRAPPLE WITH THE QUESTION. >> YES AND NO. HE WELCOMED...
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WEST VIRGINIA, AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER, PARTICULARLY AFTER HE HAD ADDRESSED THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF EUROPE EDITORS IN WASHINGTON AND SPELLED OUT FOR...
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| 00:33:35 |
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SENATORS' RHETORIC ON THE QUESTION OF HIS RELIGION IMPACT PEOPLE IN WEST VIRGINIA, STANDING BACK AND LOOKING AT IT AS A HISTORICAL MATTER? YOU ALMOST...
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| 00:34:16 |
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CAMPAIGN. IT WASEFT TO ME EFFORT TO ME. THERE WAS A MEETING THE DAY AFTER THE WISCONSIN PRIMARY. THERE WAS A MEETING AT OUR HEADQUARTERS AT THE HOTEL...
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| 00:38:22 |
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HE HAD DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH BIGOTRY DIRECTED AT IRISH AMERICANS. >> OH, YEAH. >> HAD HE EVER EXPERIENCED BIGOTRY
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DIRECTED AT CATLIC SHOLICS? >>
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| 00:38:36 |
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IT WAS CERTAINLY A FACT. THERE WERE NO SECRETS IN WEST VIRGINIA. I MEAN, THE -- LATER ON,
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| 00:38:43 |
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THEY HAD A BIBLE SUNDAY WHERE THEY JUST PREACH, YOU KNOW, NO CATHOLICS. NO CATHOLICS. NO CATHOLICS. AND THAT WAS GENERALLY ACCEPTED. AND CHARLEY SAYS...
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DISAPPEARED. >>
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| 00:39:29 |
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THAT WAS THE -- THAT WAS THE OTHER BIG -- ONE THING I SHOULD ADD, A FACT THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED
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| 00:39:37 |
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SO FAR, BUT IN LIGHT OF THE -- THE TRUTH NEEDS TO BE TOLD TO SOME EXTENT AT LEAST. A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY WASN'T -- [ INAUDIBLE ] BY THE KENNEDY...
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| 00:41:23 |
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VIRGINIA. BUT, ILLUSTRATE WHAT CHARLEY WAS JUST SAYING, THEY HAD -- HUMPHREY HAD ROUGHLY 60/40 WITH ABOUT A MONTH TO GO. WITH ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO GO,...
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| 00:42:00 |
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ELECTION -- BECAUSE I HAD TO BRING ONE OF OUR SERIOUS LEADERS, FORMERLY IN CHARGE OF ROADS AND -- AND WHATEVER. >> BOROUGHS. >> YEAH, TO SEE THE SENATOR....
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| 00:42:18 |
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THE DANIEL BOONE HOTEL. WE WERE
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| 00:42:21 |
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TRYING TO CONVINCE HIM
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| 00:42:22 |
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TO COME OUR
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| 00:42:25 |
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WAY. AND THAT -- LOU HARRIS JUST LEFT. WE'RE FLAT EVEN. YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SO THANK YOU, LOU, FOR YOUR GREAT MEMORY. >> TED, COULD I -- ONE...
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| 00:42:45 |
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BEEN CONDUCTED DURING THAT MONTH. THAT WAS IN -- IN READING HIS WORDS, YOU SEEM TO HAVE FRAMED THIS AS IF IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF CAN ONE VOTE FOR A PERSON...
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| 00:43:23 |
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I CAN'T STAND. BIGOTS AND THOSE DAMN CATHOLICS. BUT WEST VIRGINIANS HAVE AN INNATE SENSE OF FAIRNESS. AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT EVERYBODY WAS GANGING...
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| 00:45:17 |
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MIGHT WANT TO BEGIN AMBLING TOWARD A MICROPHONE. IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES I'D BE HAPPY TO CALL ON YOU. DAVID, I WANTED TO ASK YOU BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS...
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| 00:46:08 |
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HE -- HE JUST WAS THE ORIGINAL ENGERIZER BUNNY. AND HE RAN BECAUSE HE COULDN'T STOP RUNNING. I MEAN, MURIEL HUMPHREY USED TO SAY AT THE END OF THE...
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| 00:48:16 |
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THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, ORDINARILY THE TOP, THE PEOPLE WHO PUT IN THE MONEY, THE FINANCES, THE CARDS, THE GOVERNOR, THE SHERIFF,...
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| 00:48:49 |
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THE VOTER AS HE WAS -- OFTEN YOU KNOW IN THE
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| 00:48:53 |
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HLOWS THEY WOULD HAVE DRIVERS SO THE CAMPAIGN MONEY WAS USED PARTIALLY TO PAY THE DRIVER WHO DROVE PEOPLE TO AND FROM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE HOLLOW...
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| 00:50:36 |
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IF YOU WILL, IN WEST VIRGINIA, WHAT EVERY POSITION IN COUNTIES AND LOCALITIES, PLUS THE STATE WAS ELECTED, RIGHT? >> I FORGOT ONE THING I WANTED TO...
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| 00:50:54 |
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THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE IN MY COUNTY ONE DAY DURING THE CAMPAIGN, AND A GIRL WHO WORKED IN THE OFFICE CAME UP AND WHISPERED TO ME "SAM JUST GOT $10,000...
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| 00:51:55 |
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PUBLISH AS A PUBLIC SERVICE TO SHOW YOU HOW IMPORTANT SLATING WAS THERE A LIST OF ALL THE CANDIDATES IN THE AREA FOR ALL THE OFFICES THAT PEOPLE COULD...
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| 00:53:01 |
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THERE'S ACTUALLY A MEMO FROM ONE OF YOU GUYS FROM WAY BACK THEN TALKING ABOUT, I HAVE THE QUOTE HERE SOMEWHERE, THAT, "THE TRAP COULD BE BAITED FOR HUMPHREY...
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| 00:53:28 |
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TED, HAVE TO
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WIN THAT PRIMARY IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT
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CASE? >> I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT,
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| 00:53:34 |
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AND THEN I'D LIKE TO ASK DICK DONAHUE A QUESTION. [ LAUGHTER ] MY COMMENT
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| 00:53:39 |
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IS -- >> YOU SEE HOW TOUGH THIS IS. >> THAT IF HUBERT HAD WON ONE
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| 00:53:47 |
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MORE DISTRICT IN WISCONSIN, WHICH HE CAME VERY CLOSE
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| 00:53:52 |
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TO DOING, HE WOULD NOT HAVE ENTERED WEST VIRGINIA, HE LATER SAID, AND HE WAS SO GLAD HE WON THAT DISTRICT AFTER IT WAS ALL OVER, BECAUSE, YES, THE...
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| 00:54:42 |
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QUESTIONS, AND IT ALL WENT TO --
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| 00:54:45 |
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OF COURSE KENNEDY WAS A SUPERB DEBATER AND HE ANSWERED THE RELIGIOUS QUESTION, POSSIBLY PLANTED, WHO KNOWS. [ LAUGHTER ] >> IT WAS. BUT ONE QUESTIONER...
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| 00:55:03 |
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HUMPHREY WAS TRYING TO SATISFY THE GENTLEMAN WHO WOULD NOT GET OFF THE PHONE. HE KEPT HUMPHREY ON THE PHONE. HUMPHREY USED UP HIS ENTIRE ALLOTTED TIME...
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| 00:55:30 |
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WERE WORKING VERY WELL AT THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU
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| 00:55:32 |
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SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AND PLEASE, PROCEED. >> MY NAME IS RAY MACK AND I WANT TO BEGIN, I WANT TO BEGIN BY JUST SAYING HOW REALLY
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| 00:55:44 |
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TERRIBLY HONORED I AM TO REALLY SEE HISTORY AND TO HEAR IT. IT'S JUST WONDERFUL. MY MIND IS GOING BACK TO WHEN, HOW OLD I WAS IN 1960, I WAS A SENIOR...
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| 00:56:38 |
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THE THINGS THAT FIRST ATTRACTED ME TO
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| 00:56:40 |
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KENNEDY, AND I THINK MANY, MANY PEOPLE TO, WAS THE 1956 CONVENTION, THE EXCITEMENT OF THAT BALLOT BETWEEN -- >> THE VICE PRESIDENT. >> KENNEDY HAD MADE...
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| 00:56:58 |
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STEVENSON, AND HE ENTERED
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| 00:56:59 |
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THE RACE FOR VICE PRESIDENT, AND WHICH HE AND KEFALFER EMERGED AS THE TWO LEADING CANDIDATES. IN THE BALLOTING IT SEESAWED BACK AND FORTH. IT WAS...
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| 00:57:51 |
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YOU FOR TRANSPORTING ME BACK TO A TIME WHEN I WAS
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| 00:57:54 |
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NOT ALIVE AND EXCITING TO WATCH. >> UNIQUE TRICK. >> YOU MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS AT THESE, IN THESE POLITICAL MOMENTS THAT WERE SO
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| 00:58:02 |
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EXCITING. SORRY. SO MY QUESTION IS IN
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| 00:58:04 |
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1960 FOR JFK, THE RELIGIOUS PREJUDICE WAS A HUGE OBSTACLE IN HIM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. I'M WONDERING IN 2010 IF YOU SEE A NATIONAL PREJUDICE THAT THE...
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| 00:58:44 |
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CURVEBALL. >> THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL PREJUDICE, PLENTY TO GO AROUND, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SAME
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| 00:58:54 |
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AS THE QUESTION ABOUT CATHOLICS IN 1960. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS MUCH DOUBT THAT KENNEDY WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET IN 1960 IF...
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| 00:59:48 |
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HE NEVER HAD
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| 00:59:52 |
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THE AUTOMATIC KIND OF ENTRY THAT HE WOULD HAVE HAD, WERE HE NOT A MORMON. >> TOM? >> SURE. I JUST WANT TO JUMP IN AND FIRST DAVE I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR,...
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| 01:00:07 |
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MADE IT CLEAR, HE WOULD NEVER HAVE ACCEPTED SECOND PLACE ON THE TICKET IN 1960. WHENEVER ANYBODY SUGGESTED IT TO HIM, HE WOULD SAY "OH, I GET IT, CATHOLICS...
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| 01:01:06 |
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INVITED BOTH KENNEDY AND NIXON TO COME ADDRESS
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| 01:01:09 |
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THE RELIGIOUS ISSUE, NIXON WOULDN'T TOUCH IT. HE HAD, HE KNEW WHAT WAS THE RIGHT MORAL THING TO DO. HE SAID, "I'M NOT GOING TO RAISE THE RELIGIOUS ISSUE."...
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| 01:01:30 |
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AND KENNEDY ACCEPTED
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| 01:01:31 |
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AND HE WALKED, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE
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| 01:01:34 |
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DANIEL WALKING INTO THE LION'S
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| 01:01:37 |
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DEN. DAVE POWERS TOOK ONE LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE, AND CAME BACK AND REPORTED TO JFK BACK STAGE, WHO WANTED DAVE TO GO GET HIS DARK BLACK SHOES FOR...
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| 01:02:06 |
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VIRGINIA, BUILT IN PART ON WHAT HE HAD SAID AT THAT
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| 01:02:08 |
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AMERICAN SOCIETY OF NEWSPAPER EDITORS CONFERENCE, AND TEDDY WHITE, WHOM YOU CITED, SAID HE THOUGHT THAT HOUSTON MINISTERS SPEECH SHOULD BE REQUIRED...
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| 01:02:28 |
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MEETING
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| 01:02:30 |
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OF PROTESTANT OR NON-CATHOLIC THEOLOGIANS AT THE WAL SORVE
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| 01:02:35 |
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ASTORIA'S REMINDS ME OF ONE OF ADELAIDE STEVENSON'S GREAT LINES, AND HE SAID THAT IN THE AREA OF THEOLOGY, HE FOUND PAUL APPEALING. THANK YOU FOR WAITING...
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| 01:03:00 |
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DEEPLY ESPECIALLY TED SORENSON, WHO I THINK IS PROBABLY THE GREATEST POLITICAL SPEECHWRITER IN AMERICAN HISTORY, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. [ APPLAUSE...
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| 01:03:41 |
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MASSACHUSETTS, AND THEY CAME
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| 01:03:43 |
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IN AND CHUB WAS ONE, I HAPPENED TO HAVE A PICTURE THAT HE TOOK OF SOME WORKER IN A POLL SHOWING WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS CRIME, BUT CHUBB WASN'T TOO SWIFT....
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| 01:04:19 |
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YOU'RE RUNNING FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE. YOU'VE SIGNED ON WITH THIS AMAZING, YOUNG PERSON AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN, YOUR NATIVE LITTLE STATE IS BEING FLOODED...
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| 01:04:52 |
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EXTREME WE HAD A ROOM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HEADQUARTERS ACROSS KNOLL STREET NEXT TO THE CAPITAL THEATER, AND WE INTENDED TO PUT A GOOD MANY OF...
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| 01:05:57 |
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IMPACT OF RHETORIC, AND THIS WEST VIRGINIA PRIMARY AND I'M WONDERING, THERE WAS MENTION OF MR. SORENSON'S PENDING OF THE SPEECH WHICH PRESIDENT KENNEDY...
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| 01:06:35 |
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OBAMA SPEECH ON RACE WAS EXTREMELY GOOD, AND
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| 01:06:38 |
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EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR HIM AT A DIFFICULT TIME IN HIS CAMPAIGN, BUT I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE WORD BEFORE -- WHILE I'VE GOT THE MIKE. >> MORE THAN THAT IF...
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| 01:07:00 |
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IF KENNEDY HAD LOST IN WEST VIRGINIA
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| 01:07:02 |
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BECAUSE OF THE RELIGIOUS ISSUE, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED, AND I BELIEVE IF ANY OF THE OTHER DEMOCRATS HAD BEEN NOMINATED, NIXON WOULD HAVE BEEN...
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| 01:08:19 |
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AND POLITICAL SCIENCE, AND MY
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| 01:08:21 |
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QUESTION IS THE NAME AL SMITH WAS MENTIONED, AND I WAS WONDERING IF HIS CANDIDACY AND HIS CAMPAIGNING WAS SORT OF A HOW TO NOT -- IN REGARDS TO THE...
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| 01:08:55 |
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AL SMITH'S CAMPAIGN, BUT FROM WHAT YOU KNOW OF IT AND FROM WHAT YOU SAW OF JOHN KENNEDY'S CAMPAIGN, DO YOU THINK THEY WERE DIFFERENT? >> THEY MUST...
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| 01:09:12 |
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DIMENSIONS THAT HAS NOT BEEN FOCUSED ON HERE IS KENNEDY HAD A PRESS CORPS BECAUSE OF THE RELIGIOUS ISSUE IN PART THAT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE SUPPORTIVE,...
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| 01:10:14 |
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HE BE CONSIDERED
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| 01:10:15 |
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FOR THE VICE PRESIDENCY OR NOT, BECAUSE HE'S A CATHOLIC AND LOOK AT AL SMITH, I WAS INSTRUCTED -- >> I THOUGHT SO. >> -- ON JOHN F. KENNEDY TO STUDY...
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| 01:10:31 |
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HIS RELIGION
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| 01:10:32 |
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WAS ONLY ONE OF MANY, AND THE LEAST OF THOSE REASONS WHY HE LOST SO HEAVILY. HE REPRESENTED TAMANY HALL AND THE FORCES OF PROHIBITION AND HE WAS ABOVE...
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| 01:11:04 |
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THEN, THAT I READ OF THE ACCOUNT OF THAT MEMO IN A MAGAZINE, AND IT POINTED OUT HOW RELIGION, CATHOLIC RELIGION COULD HELP KENNEDY, AND THIS WAS A...
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| 01:12:34 |
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LIBRARY. THANKS FOR A GREAT EVENING.
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| 01:12:36 |
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I'M INTRIGUED BY THE TERM "DAMNED CATHOLICS" AND WONDERING WHAT'S BEHIND IT, IF IT WAS SIMPLY A CONCERN ABOUT THE POPE, "DAMNED CATHOLIC" WOULD BE APPLIED...
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| 01:13:04 |
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THE ATTITUDE IS NOW,
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| 01:13:06 |
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BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT OBVIOUSLY, AS CHARLIE SAYS, HAS MODERATED IT IS NOT A FACTOR TODAY BUT IT COULD BE. >> REALLY? >> YEAH. >> I DON'T THINK
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| 01:13:22 |
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SO. UNFORTUNATELY
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THE BEHAVIOR OF SOME
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| 01:13:28 |
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PROMINENT CATHOLICS IN THE FEW YEARS DON'T BRING REPUTE ON THE CHURCH BUT THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS COMBINED EFFECT OF JOHN KENNEDY'S PRESIDENCY AND THOSE...
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| 01:14:21 |
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TWO PATIENT PEOPLE HERE, AFTER WHICH I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET SOME TRIVIA OUT OF SORENSON BEFORE WE -- THERE'S A ONE WRAP-UP QUESTION THAT I'VE...
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| 01:14:43 |
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HAD VERY POWERFUL LABOR UNIONS AND LABOR INTERESTS. WOULDN'T IT BE, WAS IT, DID LABOR ACTUALLY SUPPORT SENATOR KENNEDY, AND WOULDN'T THAT HAVE BEEN...
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| 01:15:03 |
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WITH LABOR GROUPS, WAS WORKING WITH THEM WHILE WE WERE DOWN, THAT WAS
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| 01:15:07 |
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ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD GOING, IT WASN'T JUST OUR REGISTRATION AND LEAFLETTING AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO THEY WERE HELPFUL FOR US. AND THEY...
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| 01:15:36 |
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IT'S
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| 01:15:37 |
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QUITE NORMAL FOR ALL
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| 01:15:39 |
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THE ELECTED OR PROMINENT FIGURES IN A STATE TO TAKE SIDES AS A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN TAKES SHAPE OR AT LEAST MANY OF THEM. NOT THE CASE 50 YEARS AGO....
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| 01:16:05 |
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TO AVOID IT. IT WAS JUST -- I FELT AT THE BEGINNING, IT HURT ME BEING ASSOCIATED WITH KENNEDY. >> REALLY? >> I THINK HIS STOCK WENT UP, MY STOCK WENT...
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| 01:16:25 |
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COULD -- >> YOU HAVE TWO
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| 01:16:27 |
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DEMOCRATIC SENATORS. >> AND FOR THE MOST PART, AND
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| 01:16:33 |
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BIRD WAS AGAINST THIS. >>
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| 01:16:38 |
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JENNINGS RANDOLPH. >> JENNINGS RANDOLPH WAS NOT OVERTLY AGAINST THIS AS BURT WAS BUT BURT WAS -- >> THAT PRESENT PRO-JOHNSON. >>
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| 01:16:45 |
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OH, HE WAS A
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| 01:16:46 |
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JOHNSON MAN. >> RIGHT. >> SO, BUT IT WAS A GREAT
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| 01:16:50 |
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ILLUSTRATION WHAT HAVE WENT WRONG WITH
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| 01:16:52 |
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JOHNSON'S SIDE WITH THE CAMPAIGN
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| 01:16:54 |
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BECAUSE JOHNSON THOUGHT,
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| 01:16:55 |
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WELL, THE SENATORS CAN CONTROL THE STATE. WELL, IF YOU COULD IMAGINE, BYRD TELLING ONE OF THOSE COUNTY LEADERS IN WEST VIRGINIA, WHO COULD PRODUCE...
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| 01:17:35 |
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SO THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME REALLY ASKED THE SAME
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| 01:17:38 |
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QUESTION, WHAT WAS THE INFLUENCE OF LABOR IN THE ELECTION, AND ALSO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THIS CONVERSATION. IT'S...
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| 01:17:55 |
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TO ELABORATE SOME MORE. YOU'RE ONE OF THE KEY COGS IN WHAT EVENTUALLY BECOMES KNOWN AS THE WELL OILED KENNEDY MACHINE, VERY USED TO DEALING WITH CONSTITUENT...
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| 01:18:21 |
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LIKE DOING WITH ANY CONSTITUENT ORGANIZATION, YOU FIRST GET TO KNOW THEM, YOU MAKE FRIENDS WITH THEM, THEY TRUST YOU. YOU TRUST THEM AND WHEN YOU GET...
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| 01:19:15 |
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THE GREAT SORENSON. IT'S PRIMARY NIGHT, 50 YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE ALL USED TO, DAVID, HOOPLAS AND FILLED BALLROOMS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. JOHN KENNEDY...
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| 01:19:55 |
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HIS BROTHER,
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| 01:19:58 |
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BOB, IN CHARLTONESTON. IT'S ABOUT 11:30 AT NIGHT. WHO CAME OVER TO HIS HOUSE FOR SUPPER? AND WHAT MOVIE DID THEY GO TO? [ LAUGHTER ] >> I WASN'T THERE,...
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| 01:20:22 |
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YOUR NATIVE NEBRASKA. >> UNCONTESTED NEBRASKA. BECAUSE HE HAD GOTTEN
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| 01:20:29 |
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THERE EARLY AND
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| 01:20:33 |
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OFTEN, STEWART TIMINGTON FROM NEXT DOOR IN MISSOURI NEVER EVEN ENTERED THE RACE. HUBERT HUMPHREY FROM THE MIDWEST AND THE FARM CHAMPION NEVER EVEN...
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| 01:21:07 |
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HE HAD,
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| 01:21:09 |
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IT WAS GOING TO WOMP US, AND HE WANTED TO BE OUT THERE TO COVER THE DISASTER THE
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| 01:21:14 |
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PRESS WOULD FIND. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE HIGH-POWERED TEAM OF SORENSON AND
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| 01:21:22 |
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SALINGER TOOK NEBRASKA WITH 88% OF THE VOTE THAT NIGHT, IT WAS A REAL TOUGH ONE. BUT THIS INABILITY FOR ME TO GET -- I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO WENT OVER...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.