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ILLEGAL ALIEN THAT THE QUESTION THAT PERSON. THIS IS SIMPLY EXTENDING THE POLICE TOOL CALLED A STOP AND QUESTION CREATED BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN...
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| 00:02:54 |
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ALWAYS A TENDENCY TO BELIEVE IT IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMPLE. IT IS NOT. IT IS VERY COMPLEX. IT GETS DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES, CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN...
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| 00:03:07 |
GUEST, -
HIGH SCHOOL LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM OR HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM AND DO NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE HERE WITHOUT PAPERS, THAT THEIR -- THAT THEY ARE HERE...
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| 00:04:14 |
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YOU CAN CALL IN AND 202-628- 0184. AGAIN, THAT IS FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. MR. SECRETARY, YOU SERVED IN THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT. WAS IMMIGRATION...
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| 00:04:56 |
GUEST, -
WITH A GROUP OF SENATORS, BIPARTISAN, WHO WERE INTERESTED IN GETTING THIS THROUGH.
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| 00:05:02 |
HOST, -
I CAN TELL YOU, IT WAS JON KYL ON ONE HAND AND TED KENNEDY ON THE OTHER.
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| 00:05:07 |
GUEST, -
IT WAS A BIPARTISAN GROUP AND WE HAVE A 700-PAGE BILL, AS COMPREHENSIVE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. ANY QUESTION YOU WANT KNOWN ABOUT IMMIGRATION WAS IN THAT...
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| 00:06:18 |
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FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING NOTHING MORE THAN WORKING
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| 00:06:22 |
GUEST, -
12 TO 16 HOURS A DAY AND TAKING YOUR EYE OFF THE BALL FROM PEOPLE WHO REALLY DO WANT TO DO US HARM, I THINK IT IS VERY INEFFICIENT. I DO NOT THINK IT...
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| 00:06:57 |
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COMING FROM EVERYWHERE. AND PERHAPS THE ONLY THING THAT THIS WILL CHANGE
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| 00:07:03 |
GUEST, -
IS THAT ARIZONA WILL BECOME A HAVEN FOR LAWYERS. BECAUSE LAWSUITS WILL BE COMING FROM EVERYWHERE. BUT ERIC HOLDER, THAT IS MUCH -- IS AS MUCH AS A LEGAL...
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| 00:07:42 |
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APCO. WE PROVIDE CONSULTING SERVICES TO COMPANIES GOING OVERSEAS, IN SOME INSTANCES
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| 00:07:50 |
GUEST, -
COMPANIES COMING TO THE U.S. AND THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WORK ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCE...
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| 00:08:38 |
HOST, -
COMING FROM A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO BETTER THEMSELVES, WHICH IS ANYBODY'S IDEA.
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| 00:08:45 |
CALLER, -
INSTEAD OF MAKING THEIR LIVES HARDER, HAS ANYONE THOUGHT ABOUT A KIND OF BUYOUT TO GET INTO THE UNITED STATES? THE UNITED STATES IS IN TROUBLE AT TIMES,...
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| 00:09:28 |
GUEST, -
A FINE. AND AS YOU SAID, THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FACT THAT THEY BREACHED LAW. IT SHOULD BE A FINE COMMENSURATE WITH THE CRIME. AND THAT IS THE KIND...
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| 00:10:29 |
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HOST: TURNED ON THE VOLUME ON YOUR TELEVISION. JUST LISTEN TO YOUR TELEPHONE. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION.
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| 00:10:36 |
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CALLER: MY NAME IS LORRAINE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON. HOST: WE GOT ALL OF THAT. AND WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? CALLER: YOU WERE SAYING THAT THESE CHILDREN...
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| 00:10:51 |
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AND WHAT NOT, BUT DON'T YOU THINK THAT AS A BOLD WE -- AS ADULTS WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BURDENS WE PUT ON OUR CHILDREN
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| 00:11:00 |
CALLER, -
AND THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH BY PULLING THEM OFF THEIR TEAMS AND HAVING
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| 00:11:04 |
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TO BE DEPORTED? THIS IS MORE WRENCHING FOR ME TO HEAR WHAT WE ARE
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| 00:11:09 |
CALLER, -
DOING TO THESE YOUNG CHILDREN. GUEST: I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. MASS DEPORTATION IS NOT AN OPTION. WE HAVE SAID THAT ALL ALONG. IN FACT, THE WAY...
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| 00:11:34 |
GUEST, -
CONTRIBUTED, THE GREAT MAJORITY HAVE STAYED OUT OF TROUBLE, SIMPLY WANTED TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ROUND UP AND PUT THEM ON BUSES...
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| 00:12:28 |
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TO A VERY POOR RESOURCES FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT. TURNING THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT TOWARD PEOPLE WHO COME TO BE GARDNERS AND WORKING HOSPITALITY...
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| 00:12:42 |
GUEST, -
HOST: CALIFORNIA, JEROME, INDEPENDENT. AND WE ARE TALKING U.S. IMMIGRATION POLICY. CALLER: MR. GUTIERREZ, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. DURING YOUR STAY...
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| 00:13:06 |
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LEAVING THIS COUNTRY WOULD POSSIBLY BE SEARCHED AND THE THINGS THEY ARE TAKING INTO MEXICO WOULD BE QUESTIONED?
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| 00:13:13 |
CALLER, -
THIS IS PARTICULARLY RELATIVE TO THE ARMS BEING MOVED INTO MEXICO SUPPLYING THE GAINS. THESE ARMS ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN MEXICO. I HAVE TRAVELLED EXTENSIVELY...
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| 00:14:14 |
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SHARING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS AND THE DRUGS THAT ARE FLOWING
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| 00:14:19 |
CALLER, -
INTO OUR COUNTRY FROM MEXICO, AND THE VIOLENCE, THAT WE DO SEE IT AS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED US TO DO IS TO HELP WITH THE INFLOW...
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| 00:14:29 |
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WEAPONRY THAT IS GOING INTO FORMING THIS ILLEGAL ARMY AT OUR OWN BORDERS. FOR OUR OWN NATIONAL SECURITY. I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. BUT I DO NOT KNOW...
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| 00:16:09 |
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AND SUDDENLY WILL BE KIND OF
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| 00:16:15 |
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SUBJECT -- HOST: WE APPRECIATE THE STORY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
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| 00:16:18 |
CALLER, -
WANT TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING HE SAID BUT WHAT IS THE COOPERATION LEVEL WHEN IT COMES TO IMMIGRATION BETWEEN THE U.S. AND MEXICO? GUEST: I THINK IT IS...
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| 00:16:37 |
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A VERY STRONG, DETERMINED PRESIDENT IN PRESIDENT CALDERON IN MEXICO. THEN I WOULD SAY THE CONTINUITY
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| 00:16:47 |
GUEST, -
OF HAVING WORKED WITH PRESIDENT BUSH AND NOW PRESIDENT OBAMA THERE IS CONTINUITY OF POLICY ON OUR END. WE WANT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. I THINK IF WE HAVE...
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| 00:17:26 |
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YOUR GUEST TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME CLARITY ON THAT.
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| 00:17:30 |
CALLER, -
GUEST: THE BEST ESTIMATE -- AND THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATE -- WE TYPICALLY USE THE NUMBER 12 MILLION. NOW, I HAVE TO TELL YOU 12 MILLION WAS A NUMBER...
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| 00:17:55 |
GUEST, -
IT PROBABLY HAS STAYED ABOUT 12 MILLION. OF THOSE 12 MILLION, THREE MILLION ARE CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN HERE. SO THEY WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT...
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| 00:18:55 |
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ARE. IT COULD BE DIFFERENT IF HE IS A NATURALIZED CITIZEN AS OPPOSED TO BORN IN THE U.S. THERE ARE DIFFERENT LAWS AND REGULATIONS. I COULDN'T CONTAINING...
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| 00:19:09 |
GUEST, -
COULDN'T TELL IF YOU THAT CHANGED. HOST: ARE CHILDREN BORN OF ILLEGALS AUTOMATIC CITIZENS? GUEST: YES. HOST: PITTSBURGH, DEMOCRAT, MARK. YOU ARE ON....
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| 00:19:34 |
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AND IT IS SO FUNNY TO HEAR THESE PEOPLE
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| 00:19:37 |
GUEST, -
TELL US WHAT TO DO
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| 00:19:39 |
HOST, -
BECAUSE WE ARE IN A WAR ZONE HERE. EVERYBODY CAN JUST MAKE LIGHT OF IT, BUT IT IS HORRIBLE. WHEN REAGAN PROMISED US IN 1986 OR WHATEVER THAT THIS...
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| 00:19:50 |
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HAPPEN AGAIN AND THAT WAS THREE MILLION, NOT 20 MILLION. AND NOBODY ELSE COVERS OUR BORDERS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND WHAT NOBODY IS TELLING EVERYBODY...
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| 00:21:09 |
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IN A ROOM APARTMENT. 20 PEOPLE
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| 00:21:13 |
CALLER, -
IN A WUPBONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT. IT IS DESTROYING NEIGHBORHOODS
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| 00:21:16 |
HOST, -
AND IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN'T FIGHT BECAUSE THE
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| 00:21:19 |
CALLER, -
ACLU, YOU SAY ONE THING AND THE ACLU IS THERE AND THE GOVERNMENT, WE ARE PAYING, OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE GOING FOR IT AND ALL THE PROTEST PROTESTERS THAT...
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| 00:22:18 |
GUEST, -
EVERYONE WE ARE AFTER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY TO HURT US. IT IS INTERESTING, BUT AS YOU SAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS LIVING IN THE COUNTRY,...
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| 00:24:17 |
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THEIR MEDICARE. SO WE NEED
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| 00:24:22 |
GUEST, -
TO GROW OURSELVES OUT OF IT. BUT ONE SOLUTION AS WE GROW OURSELVES OUT AND AS WE GROW OURSELVES INTO AN ECONOMY THAT CAN PAY FOR THESE UNBELIEVABLE...
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| 00:25:35 |
HOST, -
RECENTLY ABOUT HOW MEXICO'S POPULATION GROWTH HAS DECLINED OVER THE HRASLAST 20 OR 30 YEARS. WHAT IS TRUE IS THAT WHAT WE GET HERE IS WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS...
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| 00:25:52 |
GUEST, -
MOST ADVENTUROUS, THE MOST AMBITIOUS, THE MOST INDUSTRIOUS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO RISK IT ALL FOR A BETTER LIFE. THOSE ARE A COUNTRY'S FINEST...
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| 00:27:45 |
HOST, -
MOVED TO NEW YORK AND BECAME U.S. CITIZENS. THEN HE GOT A JOB IN MEXICO WITH HEINZ
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| 00:27:53 |
GUEST, -
COMPANY, FOOD COMPANY. THAT IS HOW WE ENDED UP IN MEXICO. I WENT TO JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL IN MEXICO. BUT THE INTERESTING THING IS, BECAUSE...
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| 00:29:28 |
HOST, -
U.S. CITIZEN, I WAS I GUESS BY THAT TIME MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE U.S. COMPANY, I WAS A CORPORATE VICE PRESIDENT, THE C.E.O. HAD AN
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| 00:29:41 |
GUEST, -
INTEREST IN ME. NO, I HAD TO STAND IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THEM AND WAIT MY TURN AND WE HAD TO DO THE EXAMS AND WHEN I WALKED OUT OF THAT COURTHOUSE...
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| 00:31:09 |
HOST, -
QUESTION? CALLER: I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR GUEST AND HE SAEUDID MEN CAME ILLEGALLY. THAT IS ALL WE WANT. I AGREE WITH THE
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| 00:31:21 |
CALLER, -
ARIZONANS. I ATTEND NEW YORK STATE AND IF I GET STOPPED BY THE POLICE I HAVE TO HAVE I.D. THAT IS THE LAW. EVERYONE IN
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| 00:31:29 |
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THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE I.D. THEY
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| 00:31:31 |
CALLER, -
SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM SHOWING THE I.D. WHETHER THEY ARE ILLEGAL OR LEGALLY HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. YOU KEEP SAYING THESE PEOPLE...
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| 00:32:32 |
GUEST, -
THAT WE WANT ON OUR HISTORY. THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THE JOBS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR AMERICANS TO DO ARE NOT BEING FILLED BY...
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| 00:34:02 |
HOST, -
WHO DON'T NECESSARILY
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| 00:34:03 |
GUEST, -
WANT TO DO THAT, WHO DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PICK LETTUCE EVEN THOUGH IT IS A JOB. SO, I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE A BIG MISTAKE BY ASSUMING THAT THIS...
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| 00:37:14 |
HOST, -
WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE ILLEGAL PROBLEM. [INAUDIBLE]
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| 00:37:21 |
CALLER, -
I'M A BANKER AND I HAVE PEOPLE TO COME IN. WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS GETTING SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE DECEASED. [INAUDIBLE] THEY...
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| 00:38:52 |
HOST, -
OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
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| 00:38:58 |
CALLER, -
HERE, WITHOUT APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS, WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, WE WILL SUFFER FOR IT. WE WILL SUFFER ECONOMICALLY AND WE WILL PAY A
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| 00:39:09 |
HOST, -
HEAVY PRICE.
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| 00:39:11 |
GUEST, -
NOW, THE POINT YOU ARE MAKING IS GOOD. SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND BEING FALSIFIED. THAT WILL HAVE TO COME OUT AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE...
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| 00:40:44 |
HOST, -
SINCE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS FOLLOWING THE LAW, WHAT DO DO YOU REMEMBER WITH THE PEOPLE WHO DECIDE I HAVE BEEN DOING OK, WHY SHOULD...
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| 00:40:54 |
CALLER, -
IN? I WILL STAY UNDER THE WIRE LIKE I HAVE BEEN DOING AND THINGS ARE GOING ALL RIGHT FOR ME NOW. GUEST: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. WE CAN GET TO THE...
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| 00:41:22 |
GUEST, -
CARD, WE CAN GET TO THE POINT WHERE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN TRY TO GET A JOB BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WE SHOULD...
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| 00:42:32 |
HOST, -
THAT WOULD BE FAIR AND TAKE THE POLICE OUT OF THE IDEA OF ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY
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| 00:42:40 |
CALLER, -
TO AMERICAN CITIZENS. AND THAT IS ADDRESSING THE DRAIN ON OUR SOCIAL SERVICES SYSTEM, OUR HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, SCHOOL SYSTEMS SYSTEMS, AND DRIVING WITHOUT...
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| 00:43:34 |
GUEST, -
SYSTEM MEANS TAXES, IT MEANS MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY. IT MEANS BEING PART OF OUR SYSTEM AND BEING PART OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM. SO, INSTEAD OF BEING DEPORTED...
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| 00:45:06 |
HOST, -
IN THE CONGRESS, IS THAT SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WANT TO USE THIS TO PICK A POLITICAL
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| 00:45:14 |
GUEST, -
FIGHT. NOT TO GET REFORM BUT TO PICK A POLITICAL FIGHT IN AN ELECTION YEAR. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ALL HEARD AND IT WAS ALL OVER THE PAPERS THAT SENATOR...
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| 00:46:56 |
HOST, -
ABOUT THE NATIONAL ECONOMIC OUTLOOK. >> TODAY WE WILL BRING YOU A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT U.S. POLICY SHOULD BE IN DEALING WITH IRAN AND ITS NUCLEAR...
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