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MOSTLY ON MY EXPERIENCE MISDIRECTED, AND I'M NOW AN ACADEMIC TEAMING LAW AT THE HERO HORR STATE UNIVERSITY. BUT WHEN I WAS AT THE ACLU I
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| 00:00:17 |
GUEST, -
BELIEVED RACIAL BIAS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WAS MUSH MP MUCH LIKE IT ALL IN OUR POLITICAL AND SOCIAL STEWS EVER INSTITUTIONS. ALL OUR SOCIETY...
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| 00:01:41 |
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SO WE DON'T. INSTEAD, TODAY WE LABEL PEOPLE OF COLORAL CRLINGSPRIMPLEELY THROUGH THE WAR ON
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| 00:01:48 |
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DRUGS. WE LABEL THEM FELONS. AND GHENT ONCE LABELED A FELON, YOU COULD BE SUBJECTED TO ALL THE FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION THAT ONCE FLIED AFRICAN-AMERICANS...
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| 00:02:50 |
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IN FACT PRESIDENT RATIONEN DECLARED THE DRUG WAR IN 1982 A FEW YEARS BEFORE CAC HIT THE STREETS IN INNER CITY TO AND BECAME A SENSATION IN THE MEDIA....
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| 00:05:24 |
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REPUBLICANS, 202-737- 0001. DEMOCRATS, -- >> WHAT'S BEEN THE END RESULT AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'VE SEEN AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN, ESPECIALLY...
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| 00:06:04 |
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SPREASFROLVE -- IN AN INCREDIBLY SHORTT PERIOD OF TIME. WE WENT FROM A PROVEN POPULATION TO OF 300,000 TO MORE THAN 2AL MILLION. OUR PRISON POPULATION...
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| 00:06:23 |
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TIME. WE NOW HAVE THE LARGEST PRISON POPULATION AND HIGHEST RATE OF INCARCERATION OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. WE DWARF THE RATES EVEN OF...
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| 00:07:59 |
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CONSISTENTLY SHOW THAT CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE NO MORE LIKELY TO USE
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| 00:08:06 |
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OR SELL ILLEGAL DRUGS THAN WHITES. USE OR SELL ILLEGAL DRUGS THAN WHITE. OUR STEREOTYPE OF A DRUG DEALER IS A BLACK KID STANDING ON THE STREET CORNER...
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| 00:09:42 |
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THE CENSUS COUNT, THAT COUNT GOES WARDS THAT. BUT THEY CAN'T VOTE.
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| 00:09:54 |
CALLER, -
HOW HOW DO YOU GET MONEY FOR THAT PRISONER AND MONEY'S BEING ALLOCATED TO THEIR ACCOUNT. >> WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE PRACTICE OF THE CENSUS...
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| 00:10:24 |
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THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PRISONERS COME FROM NEW YORK CITY AND OTHER URBAN AREAS. BUT MOST OF THE PRISONS IN THE N NEW YORK ARE IN PREDOMINANTLY...
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| 00:12:07 |
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IN A AWAY WASTED
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| 00:12:11 |
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COMMODITY THAT DRUG DEALERS CAN BE MORE ENTREPRENEURIAL, HOWEVER, I MEAN, WHY DO RACIAL JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAPPENS TO SH THE LEVEL HAPPENS TO BE...
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| 00:14:03 |
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COURSE OF THEIR ENTIRE LIVES FOR ENGAGING IN MINOR
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| 00:14:07 |
GUEST, -
DRUG ACTIVITY. THE VERY KINDS OF ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON IN SUBURBAN WHITE COMMUNITIES, COLLEGES AROUND UNIVERSITIES ALL THAL TIME. AND THOSE KIDS...
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| 00:16:39 |
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JUST TURN DOWN YOUR TELEVISION SO YOU DON'T GET FEEDBACK. CALLER: YES. I HAVE QUESTION. MAYBE A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT IN COMPARISON IF YOU HAVE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN...
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| 00:16:53 |
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GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE AND HAS A CLEAN BACKGROUND AN THEN
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| 00:16:58 |
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YOU TAKE A CAUCASIAN MALE WHO
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| 00:17:04 |
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STILL HAS , THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, DO YOU THINK IT'S A LOT OF HARM BEING DONE TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY BY A LOT OF SHOWS THAT ARE COMING...
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| 00:17:49 |
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RECORD. AND THAT SHOWS KIND OFTEN THE PROPOSE FOUND DISADVANTAGE THAT MANY THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN 911 PARTICULAR WILL HAVE WHEN THEY FACE THE UNEMPLOYMENT...
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| 00:18:57 |
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SENTIMENT THAT PERHAPS GOES BACK EVEN TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE. WHICH PROMOTES THE NOTION
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| 00:19:08 |
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THAT FERM A PERPETUATION OF ILLUSION THAT TRANSLATES INTO THE NOTION BEHIND THE SO CALLED NEW JIM CROW, IT'S NOT NEW AT ALL. IT'S THEN PERPETUATED AND...
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| 00:20:30 |
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REFERENCE. AND ADULTS , WE'VE FALLEN DOWN TREMENDOUSLY ON THE JOB OF COMMUNE CAMING IT TO THEM. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT THE GOING AROUND WITH THEIR...
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| 00:21:20 |
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BEEN CONTROLLED THROUGH INSTITUTIONS LIKE SLAVERY AND JIM CROW WHICH FOREDIE. THEN EMERGENS HAVE STRUGGLED TOMORROW IS THE EMERGENCE WAN RELATIVELY...
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| 00:23:06 |
HOST, -
THROUGH FEFRL POINTING OUT MORE AND MORE GLACK JUDGES THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF RACIAL BIAS IN THE CRIMINAL
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| 00:23:14 |
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JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND THAT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE. YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE CHANGE THE POLICIES, PRACTICES SARNLED THE DESIGN OF THE INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE...
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| 00:24:48 |
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1980'S, CONGRESS AND STATE LEGISLATURES AROUND THE COUNTRY IN MANY CASES DOUBLED, TRIPLED, QUINTUPLED THE LENGTH OF PRISON TIME THAT
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| 00:24:57 |
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PEOPLE WOULD DO. FOR RELATIVELY DEMOR DRUG OFFENSES. IT USED
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| 00:25:05 |
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TO BE IN THE FEDERAL SYSTEM, NOBODY, NOBODY SPENT MORE THAN NEERM THIS IS ASHES IN OTHER PLACES AROUND THE WORLD. THE AMOUNT OF TIME PEOPLE 13E7BD IN...
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| 00:27:02 |
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WERE TO GO BACK TO THE FORUM OF DRUG LAW ENFORCEMENT THAN THAT WE HAD IN THE
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| 00:27:10 |
GUEST, -
1970'S. LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE THE POT HOLES TO IF EWE WERE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE BATTLE DAYS...
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| 00:28:14 |
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A WHILE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. I LIVED IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. I'VE LIVED IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE COUNTRY. HOST: DALTER TOWN,
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| 00:28:24 |
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MASTERCARD, GOOD MORNING. EUGENE ON OUR INDEPENDENT LINE.
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| 00:28:29 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: GOOD MORNING. I THINK THIS SHOW CONVENIENTLY LEVERING OUT A KEY COME FOINLT FLYING TO -- THE VIOLENCE ASSOCIATED
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| 00:28:44 |
HOST, -
WITH INNER CITY DRUGS USES A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE GUY DOWN THE STREET WHO'S MAYBE SELLING
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| 00:28:51 |
GUEST, -
MARION. IN -- SELLING MARIJUANA IN WHITE SUB YOU ARE BYYA. IN MY DAY THERE WAS ANOTHER GANG CALLED THE HELL'S ANGELS CRACKED DOWN ON AS MUCH AS THE...
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| 00:29:35 |
GUEST, -
VIOLENT OFFENDERS, BUT ROUNDING UP IN MASS, VERY LOW LEVEL NON-. WELL, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS. GUEST: WHEN YOU BRARNEDS THEM FELONS, YOU CAN VIRTUALLY...
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| 00:30:08 |
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YEARS. SO IF YOU'RE CONCERN DO SO ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME AND POOR INNER CITY COMMUNITIES AS I AM. THEN YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTE OPPOSE THE DRUG WAR. BECAUSE...
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| 00:32:10 |
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EXSPONGED IN DIFFERENT STATES. SO MAYBE WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT ANOTHER WAY FOR A
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| 00:32:15 |
HOST, -
LOT OF FELONS TO GET
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| 00:32:18 |
CALLER, -
THEIR RECORD EXSPONGEAGED ONCE THEY SERVE THEIR TIME. BUT WHEN I CAME OUT I HAD A LOT OF WHITE FOLKS TO HELP ME OUT SO YOTCHT THIS TO TURN INTO A BLACK...
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| 00:33:15 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE LEGISLATION THAT'S PENDING IN SOME
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| 00:33:18 |
GUEST, -
AREAS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD INSFIRLE PARTICULARLY LOW-LEVEL DRUG OFFERSES. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING EXSPONGEMENT...
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| 00:35:29 |
HOST, -
GRANTING FELONS THEIR BULLYING RIGHTS AND THE SECOND
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| 00:35:35 |
GUEST, -
CHANCE ACT WAS RECENTLY ENACTED TO PROVIDE SOME FUNDING FOR TRAINING AND ASSISTANCE IN RE-ENTRY TO EASE THE TRANSITION FOR PRISONERS FROM PRISON LIFE...
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| 00:37:15 |
HOST, -
BLACK FOLKS, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE PANTHER PARTY AND HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, EQUATES TO TODAY? GUEST: YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
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| 00:37:24 |
CALLER, -
IN THAT THERE'S VERY INTERESTING HISTORY AS THE F DID
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| 00:37:30 |
CALLER, -
YOU OVER HERBERT HOOVER ESPECIALLY THE >> BUT NO, I DON'T SPEND THAT MUCH TIME DISCUSSING
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| 00:37:42 |
GUEST, -
THAT CHAPTER IN OUR RACIAL HISTORY. HOST: HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO WRITE AROUND HOW MUCH HELP DID YOU GET TO IT AND WHAT'S BEEN THE RESPONSE?...
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| 00:37:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CHALLENGING BECAUSE MY FAMILY WAS GROWING AT THE TIME. I GAVE BIRTH TO A COUPLE OF KIDS IN THE PROCESS AND HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT. FROM MY FAMILY,
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| 00:38:08 |
HOST, -
PARTICULARLY MY HUSBAND, MY MOTHER AND MY SISTER. AND I'VE BEEN
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| 00:38:14 |
GUEST, -
JUST TREMENDOUSLY GRAFFED BY THE RESPONSE I'VE RECEIVED TO THE BOOK SO FAR. YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FROM FOLKS WHO ARE,NiGn YOU KNOW, HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS...
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| 00:39:39 |
HOST, -
COMMUNITIES. HE'S MADE STATEMENTS INDICATING THAT HE IS, YOU
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| 00:39:44 |
GUEST, -
KNOW, OPPOSED OPEN AND HE, HIMSELF, HAS ADMITTED TO PAST DRUG USE. UNLIKE PRESIDENT CLINTON WHO CLAIMED WELL I MAY HAVE USED MARIJUANA ONCE BUT I DIDN'T...
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| 00:41:55 |
HOST, -
CAST VACATION. THE WHOLE IDEA IS THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF
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| 00:42:00 |
GUEST, -
THEIR PREDECESSORS THEY WANT TO PRIVATIZE THEIRISTIC AND. MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT DEEP AT THE DESK WHAT THEY ARE REALLY TRYING TO DO AND WE WANT TO CHANGE...
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| 00:42:53 |
GUEST, -
TO ON STOCK EXCHANGE, RUN BY WALL STREET. AND THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE MADE RUNNING THESE PRISONS FOR PROFIT. AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THE...
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| 00:43:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BENEFITS. BUT THEY ARE ALSO MOVING JOBBEDS BEHIND BARS. SO PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN PRISONERS ARE OFTEN WORKING FOR LITTLE OR NO PAY FOR AMERICAN...
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| 00:44:37 |
HOST, -
SATURDAY AT JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL FROM COMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH AN INFECTION. HE WAS 85. HE HAD A LONG AND DECORATED MILITARY SERVICE. HE BECAME...
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| 00:44:53 |
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THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON RONALD REAGAN AT THE TIME HE SAID AS OF THIS TIME I'M IN CONTROL PENDING THE RETURN OF THE VICE PRESIDENT, ALEXANDER...
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