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NEWS, OR WHAT ARE YOU SURPRISED AT? GUEST:
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| 00:00:21 |
HOST, -
A LOT OF THINGS. WHEN JOHN AND I SET OUT TO WRITE THE BOOK, WE HOPE IT WOULD BE INTERESTING BOOK TO READ AN INTERESTING STORY. BUT WE WERE ALSO GOING...
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| 00:00:42 |
GUEST, -
MCCAIN AND PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED WHEN IT HAPPENED TO THAT TIME, THE CAMPAIGN SAID THAT SHE HAD BEEN ON CONSIDERATION FOR A LONG TIME AND RECEIVE AS MUCH...
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| 00:02:26 |
GUEST, -
RACE WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY DID NOT REALLY THINK ABOUT. IT WAS NOT FACTORED INTO THE DECISION TO RUN, IT WAS A NON- ISSUE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS...
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| 00:03:31 |
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DANGEROUS AND TO DEVELOP RESPONSES." GUEST: THE PRODUCED DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF SPOTS, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT THOSE ADS TO BE PREPARED TO RESPOND THAN AND...
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| 00:03:55 |
GUEST, -
THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WAS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO RESPOND. WE HAVE A GREAT ANECDOTE WORKED AT ONE POINT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WAS TRYING TO PRODUCE AN AD THAT...
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| 00:05:53 |
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DAVID GEFFEN, THIS INCREDIBLY INFLUENTIAL HOLLYWOOD FIGURE. HE
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| 00:06:00 |
GUEST, -
WAS THE HEAD OUT ATF DREAMWORKS AND HE HAD TURNED AGAINST THE CLINTONS BUT HE WAS UNHAPPY WITH THE CLINTONS' CHOICE OF PARDONS, NOT GRANTING A PARDON...
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| 00:07:57 |
GUEST, -
HER. FOR DAVID GIVEN TO AGREE TO HOST THIS FUND-RAISER WAS A BIG BLOW TO THE CLINTONS BUT THEY WERE DESPERATE TO TRY TO OVERSHADOW THAT. IT SHOWED...
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| 00:09:26 |
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CHEATED. FROM WHAT I READ AND WHAT I HEARD, THE REASON THEY WERE SO UPSET WAS BECAUSE THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN
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| 00:09:35 |
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BUSSED IN LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE FROM ILLINOIS WITH THE HELP OF A CORN -- OF ACORN, AND THEY SHOWED UP AT THE CAUCUSES EARLY AND THEY LOCKED OUT THE...
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| 00:10:13 |
GUEST, -
HAD COME IN THIRD, SHE AND FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON ARE IN A HOTEL SUITE AND THEY ARE AS ANGRY AS THEIR AIDES HAVE EVER SEEN ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED....
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| 00:12:08 |
HOST, -
CALLER: I SAY THAT I HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK, BUT THESE FOLKS BEING SO CLOSE THE CONNECTED TO THE CAMPAIGN AND EVERYBODY WAS INVOLVED AND ALL THE CANDIDATES,...
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| 00:12:30 |
CALLER, -
WAS SHIELDED, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS NEVER CAME OUT, AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE PROTECTED DOWN TO EVERY MINUSCULE LITTLE WHATEVER -- THE IMPORTANT...
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| 00:13:47 |
HOST, -
THWHAT THE CALLERi] SUGGESTED BY DEMOCRATS, BUT ABOUT
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| 00:13:53 |
GUEST, -
REPUBLICANS. WE ARE HEARTENED THAT THE BOOK HAS RECEIVED PRAISE FROM PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT. SEAN HANNITY SAID SOME VERY NICE THINGS ABOUT THE...
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| 00:15:27 |
HOST, -
YEARS EACH. THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THOSE SOURCES OF THE BASIS ON WHICH THE BOOK WAS BUILT. IF WE HAD NOT HAD SUCH A
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| 00:15:35 |
GUEST, -
STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE SOURCES, WE CANNOT HAVE DONE WHAT WE DID. WE HAVE BEEN HEARTENED BY THEIR RESPONSE, WHICH HAS BEEN UNIFORMLY POSITIVE....
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| 00:16:40 |
HOST, -
THE PARTY COMPLETELY. BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR AT THE TIME WAS A CANDIDATE THAT WOULD REALLY REPRESENT THE COUNTRY
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| 00:16:46 |
CALLER, -
WELL. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE FACT THAT THE MEDIA WAS THERE BOOSTING OBAMA OF IT LIKE THE WAY THEY DID BUSH, WHICH THEY ACTUALLY DID DO, SEEMS TO...
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| 00:18:06 |
GUEST, -
HOST: EVEN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN FELT THAT WAY? GUEST: I THINK MARK AND I WOULD AGREE THAT OBAMA GOT A VERY FAVORABLE COVERAGE AND THE CAMPAIGN...
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| 00:18:35 |
GUEST, -
REZKO RELATIONSHIP, THAT THOSE WERE NOT GERMANE. THEY FELT THAT THE MEDIA WAS FOCUSED ON TRIVIALITIES AND THINGS THAT WERE NON-STORIES, RATHER THEM WHAT...
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| 00:19:41 |
CALLER, -
UNPREPARED, ON QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT, JOHN MCCAIN IS THIS. BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID THIS MORNING, THE EXACT OPPOSITE -- THE REVERSE IS TRUE...
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| 00:21:05 |
GUEST, -
WAY BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHERS WHO SEE IT DIFFERENTLY. THERE ARE THOSE WHO THINK BARACK OBAMA IS A HORRIBLE PRECEDENT AND THAT SARAH PALIN IS THE SALVATION....
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| 00:22:54 |
HOST, -
ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IN THE EARLY PLANNING STAGES OF THE CAMPAIGN -- YOU HAD AN OPERATION WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM LOOKED BACK AT HIS 2000 CAMPAIGN,...
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| 00:23:10 |
GUEST, -
HE RAN THIS RENEGADE, OUTSIDER CAMPAIGN, AND THEY LOST. THEY SAID, "WE SHOULD BUILD ON THE BUSH MODEL, RAISE A TON OF MONEY, HAVE A HUGE OPERATION ACROSS...
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| 00:26:09 |
GUEST, -
BOOK ALREADY, IT WOULD LOVE TO " THE THING ABOUT THE USE OF AIRPLANE TICKETS, BECAUSE IT DEFINES A HUGE PART OF THE MENTALITY OF THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE...
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| 00:26:52 |
CALLER, -
THAT HAS MADE ME VERY DISHEARTENED. I HAVE TURNED FROM DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN AND I WILL START VOTING REPUBLICAN AND I AM GOING TO VOTE MORE FOR THE PEOPLE...
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| 00:27:56 |
GUEST, -
TYPE OF VOTERS THOUGHT THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. HE HAS DONE THE THING THAT IS THE MOST DANGEROUS FOR ANY POLITICIAN, LOST CONTROL OF A LARGE SEGMENT...
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| 00:28:09 |
GUEST, -
HOW HE IS BEING PERCEIVED TO. DURING THE CAMPAIGN, HE WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AT WHAT GEORGE BUSH DID, BEING ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE. HEALTHCARE IS A GREAT...
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| 00:29:55 |
HOST, -
EARLIER CHALLENGING YOUR BIAS AND SAYING YOU SHOULD BE FIRED. WE SHOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BIAS -- TO GET TO
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| 00:30:09 |
CALLER, -
THE POINT, WE HAVE BECOME SO DIVISIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I THINK HILLARY CLINTON HAS JUST SHOWN HERSELF TO BE A GRACIOUS LOSER, OBVIOUSLY, AND THE CAMPAIGN,...
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| 00:31:15 |
HOST, -
HILLARY CLINTON WAS TO BARACK OBAMA
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| 00:31:20 |
GUEST, -
BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN DID SHE HOSTED A FUND-RAISER FOR HIS SENATE CAMPAIGN, AND SHE TALKED VERY ADMIRING LOOK ABOUT HIM, SAYING THAT THERE IS A SUPERSTAR...
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| 00:35:26 |
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TALK TO YOU AND SAY SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE CANDIDATES. I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO
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| 00:35:31 |
CALLER, -
GET ANYBODY TO WORK FOR YOU AGAIN, IT WOULD BE SO HARD FOR THE CANDIDATES. THEY HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL OF WHAT THEY SAY AND DO IN PRIVATE. WHAT KIND...
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| 00:36:09 |
HOST, -
THEIR THIRD LET ME TRY TO ADDRESS PART OF IT. -- A LOT IN THERE. LET ME TRY TO ADDRESS PART OF IT. WE WERE DEALING WITH PEOPLE WITH WHOM WE HAD STRONG...
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| 00:36:29 |
GUEST, -
THE TERMS ON WHICH WE WERE SPEAKING. HISTORY IS IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED, AT TIMES TO OUR PANIC, IS THAT AS TIME PASSES, PEOPLE'S MEMORIES...
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| 00:38:24 |
GUEST, -
EDWARDS IS THE MOST DRAMATIC AND THE BOOK, WHERE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE PUBLIC SAW AND WANTED TO SEE AND HOW THEY WERE IN PRIVATE WAS CATS MAKE --...
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| 00:39:56 |
GUEST, -
COURSE, THAT WE CHOSE THIS STRATEGY AND IS THE RIGHT THING. THERE IS ANOTHER INSTANCE LATER IN THE BOOK WHERE HE DECIDES THAT HE IS NOT GETTING ENOUGH...
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| 00:41:37 |
HOST, -
PERIOD, THERE WAS A PAC CALLED HOPE FUND, AND OBAMA INTERVIEWED AND EVENTUALLY HIRED ATNITA DUN TO RUN THAT PAC. EVEN WHEN HE WAS STILL A CANDIDATE...
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| 00:41:56 |
GUEST, -
SENATE IN 2004, HE WAS ABLE TO RAISE MONEY FOR DEMOCRATIC SENATORS. IT WAS CLEAR THAT HE WAS GOING TO WHEN IN A LANDSLIDE, AND HE WAS DOING FUND-RAISING...
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| 00:44:28 |
CALLER, -
JOY BEHAR AND BILL MAHER ATTACKER ALL THE TIME DID SHE HAD MORE EXPERIENCE THAN BARACK OBAMA. ITIT IS HOW THEY TRY TO BE LITTLE THEIR OPPONENTS. THEY...
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| 00:45:20 |
HOST, -
WAS NEVER VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN NATIONAL POLITICS. VERY FEW IN THE NATIONAL POLITICAL OR MEDIA LIFE HAD DEALINGS WITH SARAH PALIN. SHE WAS NEW. WE TALKED...
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| 00:45:41 |
GUEST, -
SARAH PALIN WHO TO THIS DAY ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WE KNOW WHO HAVE HAD EXPOSURE TO HER BEHIND-THE- SCENES TO SEE WHAT SHE IS LIKE WHEN SHE IS NOT ON TV...
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| 00:48:16 |
CALLER, -
YORK -- IF I WAS A RESIDENT OF NEW YORK, I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR HER, BECAUSE SHE MOVED IN. AND MANY VOTERS IN SOUTHWEST FLORIDA THOUGHT THEY WERE...
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| 00:49:09 |
HOST, -
NOT, FOR HAVING CORRUPT ELECTIONS? HOST: I AM NOT SURc OF THIS CAN ANSWER THAT WE WANT TO TAKE
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| 00:49:16 |
GUEST, -
A STAB AT IT? GUEST: NEVER BE WRONG PICKING CITIES IN LOUISIANA AND NEW JERSEY. HOST: LET ME GET TO SOME CRITICISM OF THE BOOK FROM HOWARD KURTZ'S...
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| 00:49:34 |
HOST, -
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| 00:49:40 |
GUEST, -
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| 00:49:46 |
HOST, -
HE IS REFERRING TO THE QUOTATION THAT CAME OUT ABOUT WHAT HARRY REID SAID IN PRIVATE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA Tc JOHN HOLLIMAN, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THAT? --...
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| 00:50:26 |
GUEST, -
HOW THE INTERVIEW WE DID CONDUCT WOULD BE USED IN -- WE TALKED IN GREAT DETAIL ABOUT HOW THE INTERVIEW THAT HE WOULD CONDUCT WOULD BE USED IN THE BOOK....
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| 00:51:30 |
HOST, -
SOURCES, WITH THE TERMS ARE NOT DEFINED BUT THERE IS ASSUMED TO BE COMMONALITY, OR THEY ARE DEFINED ON THE FLY, WE HAVE METICULOUSLY AND CAREFULLY
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| 00:51:38 |
GUEST, -
IN EVERY EXCHANGE WE HAD A FREE INTERVIEW WE DID WENT THROUGH THE PROJECT, THE TERMS WE ARE DISCUSSING, AND WE DID NOT VIOLATE THOSE TERMS FOR ANY...
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| 00:52:10 |
HOST, -
ABOUT DEFICIT SPENDING. I DON'T THINK THEY REALIZE THAT WHEN RONALD REAGAN
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| 00:52:14 |
CALLER, -
TOOK OFFICE IN 1980, THE DEFICIT WAS $980 BILLION. ONE HIM AND GEORGE BUSH SR. LEFT OFFICE, IT WAS ORDERED $5 TRILLION. CLINTON LEFT A SURPLUS -- IT...
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| 00:53:21 |
HOST, -
YOUR NOTES FROM HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN, THE STAFFERS THAT SHE HAD, AND REPORTS THIS MORNING THAT HILLARY CLINTON'S STAFF FOR NEW ENGLAND IS HELPING...
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| 00:53:59 |
GUEST, -
PARTY. THEY HAVE BEEN ARE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT AND IN MASSACHUSETTS IT HAS BEEN PLAYING OUT WHERE YOU HAVE MARTHA COAKLEY IS NOT GETTING THE KIND...
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| 00:54:47 |
GUEST, -
AND FRUSTRATED HE WAS THAT HE HAD DONE SO MUCH FOR THE KENNEDY FAMILY AS PRESIDENT AND THEY WERE DRIFTING TOWARDS OBAMA. HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON HAVE...
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| 00:55:53 |
CALLER, -
THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON IT ROMNEY COULD TO THE SPECIFIC QUESTION, THERE IS ONE OF VERY STRIKING EXAMPLE OF THE STRIKING PUBLIC IMAGE AND PRIVATE REALITY...
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| 00:56:06 |
GUEST, -
ANYTHING, WAS DEFINED AS A COMPETENT CEO CHARACTER. HE WAS AN ARCH CATALYST AND HAD RUN -- ARCH-CAPITALIST AND HAD RUN BAIN CAPITAL. HE COULD RUN GOVERNMENT...
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| 00:58:08 |
HOST, -
THAT WE HAD AN INTERESTING SET OF CHARACTERS. PRETTY GIULIANI IS THE SEVENTH--- WE KNEW WE HAD
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| 00:58:17 |
GUEST, -
AN INTERESTING SET OF CHARACTERS WENT RUDY GIULIANI WAS THE SEVENTH-THE MOST INTERESTING CANDIDATE. A CLEAN UP NEW YORK CITY AND STOOD UP TO TERRORISTS...
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