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NOWc THEY DO A NUMBER OF THINGS, INCLUDING
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HOST, -
COLLECTco INTELLIGENCE, ANALYZE INTELLIGENCE, AND ALSO TO GROUND OPERATIONS AGAINST TALIBAN FORCES, MILITANT NETWORKS. IN PAKISTAN, ISOMETHING
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GUEST, -
WE REPORT A LOT ABOUT, THE DRONE STRIKES THAT THE CIA HAS BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND IN THE LAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF OR TWO YEARS HAS INCREASED...
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HOST, -
THEY HAVE BEEN USING QUITE EXTENSIVELY. THE CIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PARAMILITARY UNIT DOING THINGS WITH COVERT ACTIONS, PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE GROUND TO...
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| 00:03:17 |
HOST, -
OTHER ALLOCATED FIGURES. THE CIA HAS THAT AS THEIR MANDATE. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN i]AFGHANISTAN AND
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GUEST, -
PAKISTAN. IT WOULD BE GATHERING INFORMATION TO TARGET THESE LEADERS ON THE GROUND, AND IN PAKISTAN, IT WOULD BE THE DRONE ATTACKS. IT IS NOT JUST AL...
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HOST, -
GUEST: WE ARE STILL TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE INCIDENT. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY MANAGED TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROPAGANDA VICTORY. THEY WERE ABLE...
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GUEST, -
BASIS IN AFGHANISTAN AND KILLED SEVEN OFFICERS DID. THEY PLACED THE BOMBER AND CALLED HIM A HERO AND A MARTYR AND IT IS A BIG PROPAGANDA WIN FOR THAT....
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| 00:06:25 |
HOST, -
IT WAS NOT THE CLASSIC DOUBLE AGENT OPERATION WHERE SOMEONE GETS INTO THE SPY NETWORK, AND BY FINDING OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW FROM THE OTHERS, THEY...
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GUEST, -
OTHER SERVICE WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. IT IS A WAY TO GET INTELLIGENCE FOR THE OTHER ORGANIZATION. IN THIS CASE THERE WAS NO EFFORT, IT SEEMS, BY THIS...
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| 00:07:48 |
HOST, -
WHAT BASELINE. IT IS HARD TO ASSESS. HOST: JACKSONVILLE,
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GUEST, -
FLORIDA, KEITH ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, C-SPAN, HOW ARE YOU? HOST: DOING WELL BUT WHAT IS A QUESTION OR COMMENT? CALLER: I WANT...
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| 00:08:15 |
HOST, -
AND LISTENER ON THE OTHER CABLE NETWORKS AND I STARTED TURNING INTO SPENT RECENTLY
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CALLER, -
AGR.
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HOST, -
MARK, AT YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS ON IF WE
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CALLER, -
CONTINUE DOWN THAT SAME PATH IN PAKISTAN, WHERE ARE WE IN THREE OR FIVE YEARS? GUESTcc GREAT QUESTION. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN I DO WHO WOULD...
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HOST, -
IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN -- IF YOU REMEMBER IT "AS THEY STAND UP, WE WILL STAND
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GUEST, -
DOWN." THIS IS IN ESSENCE PART OF THE PLANT IN AFGHANISTAN, TO HAVE ENOUGH AFGHAN FORCES. GENERALLY THERE IS A VIEW, BIPARTISAN VIEW, THAT IN WASHINGTON...
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HOST, -
ATTEMPT BY THE NIGERIAN OR WHOEVER
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CALLER, -
IT WAS WHO WAS CAUGHT ON THE PLANE AND SUPPOSEDLY, OR DID FOR SURE HAVE BOMBING MATERIAL TO BLOW UP THE PLANE, AND HE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. FOR ALL...
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| 00:13:31 |
HOST, -
BREAKDOWNS WERE MANYFOLD. DATING BACK SEVERAL
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GUEST, -
MONTHS, THE U.S. DID AT ITS OF INTELLIGENCE ABOUT AN OPERATION THAT WAS BEING PLANNED USING A NIGERIAN, AND ALSO HAD MORE INFORMATION IN THE DAYS BEFORE...
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| 00:15:14 |
HOST, -
PEOPLE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD MIGHT RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE THAT. IT IS A GAS, BUT PEOPLE -- IT IS A GUESS, BUT PEOPLE HAVE THE IMAGE OF OSAMA...
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GUEST, -
IS THAT HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT ANYMORE -- SOMEONE WITH A VERY LONG BEARD. THE POSSIBILITY IS THAT HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT ANYMORE. HOST: WHAT IS...
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| 00:16:05 |
HOST, -
VERY SICK, THAT HE IS ON THE RUN SO MUCH THAT HE IS UNABLE TO MAKE THESE VIDEOS. BUT OTHERS JUST SAY THEAT THERE IS ENOUGH AL QAEDA VIDEOS THAT
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GUEST, -
GO OUT FROM HIS DUTIES THAT HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE THE MAN PUTTING OUT VIDEOS CONSTANTLY --. FROM HIS DEPUTIES THAT HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE THE MAN PUTTING...
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| 00:16:53 |
HOST, -
THE INSPIRATIONAL LEADER OF AL QAEDA. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THAT THEY CONSIDER HIM A VERY HIGH PRIORITY TARGET. BUT IT HAS BEEN YEARS AND...
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| 00:17:05 |
GUEST, -
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE GATES, OR SO AGO SAID ON TV THAT IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE THE U.S. HAS HAD ANY REAL INTELLIGENCE ON HIM. HOST: NEXT CALL, GOOD MORNING....
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| 00:17:37 |
HOST, -
I THINK EVENTUALLY IT YOUR TYPE OF OPERATION COMES IN WITH THE ACTUAL
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| 00:17:42 |
CALLER, -
TRUTH. THEREFORE, THE NEGATIVE GROUPS FROM THE USA THAT ARE AGAINST OBAMA, THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT AND THOSE OF THAT CALIBER, AND EVEN SOME OF THE MIDDLE-...
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GUEST, -
THEY HAPPENED DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS, FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, SOMETHING THAT THEY REALIZE THEY WILL HAVE TO...
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| 00:19:38 |
HOST, -
REGULARLY HAVE CIA AND DNI AND OTHER AGENCIES BRIEF THEM ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MADE AWARE
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| 00:19:48 |
GUEST, -
OF COVERT ACTIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT AUTHORIZES. BUT AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THERE ARE SOMETHING THAT IN THEIR MINDS THEY BELIEVE THEY...
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HOST, -
OFF TOPIC. BUT
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CALLER, -
IT COMES FROM THE ABILITY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO
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HOST, -
CREATE MONEY OUT OF THE AIR -- HOST: SORRY, WE ARE GOING
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CALLER, -
TO STAY ON TOPIC, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED, THE PAKISTAN PRESIDENT WRITES IN AN OPINION PIECE IN "THE WASHINGTON POST," "PAKISTAN ON THE VERGE...
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HOST, -
CALLER: SORRY, HARD HEARING YOU, MY PHONE IS MESSED UP. HOST: WELL, WE CAN HEAR YOU. CALLER: I'M SORRY, I AM JUST TIRED TODAY. I GOT A FEW HOURS AGO....
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| 00:22:15 |
CALLER, -
KOREAN LAUNCHING OF MISSILES? GUEST: NORTH KOREA
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HOST, -
HAS COME OVER THE LAST FEW
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CALLER, -
YEARS, PERIODICALLY HAS TRIED TO TEST ITS LONG-RANGE i1NMISSILES. THEY'VE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY SUCCESSFUL. THE LONGEST RANGE MISSILE WHICH IS SUCCESSFUL...
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| 00:22:41 |
GUEST, -
WRAP UP THIS -- DID RAMP UP THIS MISSILE DEFENSE PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY TIED TO DEAL WITH WHAT THEY CALLED ROKER NATION'S -- ROGUE NATIONS THAT MIGHT...
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| 00:23:30 |
HOST, -
IT WAS AN UNCLASSIFIED REPORT PUT OUT BY A WASHINGTON THINK TANK, WRITTEc BY THE TOP MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER IN AFGHANISTAN. THERE WAS HEAD SCRATCHING...
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GUEST, -
HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION, IN PART BECAUSE HE IS SO CRITICAL OF THE INTELLIGENCE GATHERING EFFORT IN AFGHANISTAN. HE IS PRIMARILY LOOKING AT MILITARY...
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| 00:25:21 |
HOST, -
OcECTION. YOU HAVE CIA TRIED TO GO OUT AND
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CALLER, -
GET HUMAN RESOURCES,
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| 00:25:27 |
HOST, -
TO GET INFORMANTS TO TELL THEM WHAT IS GOING ON IN NETWORKS. THIS IS WHAT WE SAW WITH THE JORDANIAN DOUBLE AGENT, WITH THE CIA THOUGHT THEY HAD SOMEONE...
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| 00:25:38 |
GUEST, -
ABOUT AL QAEDA. YOU HAVE TO TRUST AND RELY ON CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO THEY MIGHT UNNECESSARILY WANT TO. IT THE JORDANIAN WHO THEY BROUGHT INTO THE BASE...
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| 00:27:06 |
HOST, -
CHANGE WHEN THE SOVIETS WERE IN AFGHANISTAN
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CALLER, -
FOR MANY YEARS, LOST MANY, MANY,
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MANY SOLDIERS, AND STILL ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING. nHOST: MARK
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CALLER, -
MAZZETTI. GUEST: AND BRITISH BEFORE THEN. AFGHANISTAN IS A PLACE -- IT IS LICHE NOW, BUT IT BECAME KNOWN AS THE GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES, BECAUSE THESE GREAT,...
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| 00:27:40 |
GUEST, -
THEREc IS THAT YOU ARE SENDINGq PEOPLE, MOREnr AMERICANS% INTO A PLACE WHERE THEY ARE NOT OPEN THE EXPECTt( -- NOT ONLY ACCEPTED, AND WHERE THEY DON'T...
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HOST, -
COULD BE THE NEXT PAKISTAN IN TERMS OF AN AL QAEDA SAFE
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GUEST, -
HAVEN. AS WE KNOW, THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER IS BELIEVED -- WAS REALLY DIRECTED BY AL QAEDA LEADERS IN YEMEN. THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PERSONNEL. IF...
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| 00:30:00 |
HOST, -
THE -- WHAT AND IF THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE
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CALLER, -
AND GET ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY THEY WANT. HOW ARE THEY REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES? AREN'T THEY WILL NOT FOR OVERTHROWING DEMOCRATIC LEADERS? BUT...
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| 00:30:40 |
GUEST, -
HEARINGS. YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS A LOT I KNOW ABOUT WHAT THE CIA IS ACTUALLY DOING. IT IS THE CIA JOB, ITS CHARTER, TO GO ABROAD AND BREAK THE LAWS...
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HOST, -
TIME GATHERING, WITH THE DRUGS
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CALLER, -
THAT ARE INUNDATING THE MILITARY THAT -- DRONES THAT ARE INUNDATING THE MILITARY WITH TOO MUCH INFORMATION, THAT THE PROCESS OF FILTERING SEEMS TO BE...
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| 00:32:17 |
GUEST, -
DOTS AND YOU ARE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO THEM. IT IS A CONCERN ABOUT HAVING TOO MUCH INFORMATION AND NOT ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY...
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| 00:33:57 |
HOST, -
CIA HAVE TO DO SNEAKY THINGS FROM TIME TO TIME AND DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO
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CALLER, -
DO. WITH ERIC HOLDER LOOKING INTO THINGS, DO YOU REALLY FEEL THAT UNDERMINING OUR ONLY SOURCE OF LREALLY PROTECTING OURSELVES IS A WISE THING AT THIS...
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GUEST, -
THAT BY INVESTIGATING, HE WILL HURT FUTURE OPERATIONS AND LOWER MORALE. I THINK ERIC HOLDER HAS AT LEAST LISTEN TO SOME OF THAT, BECAUSE HE HAS KEPT...
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HOST, -
HE, WHICH IS A WORLDWIDE ENDANGERMENT. SECONDLY,
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CALLER, -
THE CIA AND DISCLOSED IT YEARS AGO THAT THE WORSE THE PURCELL'S RIGHT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -- THERE WERE SLEEPER CELLS RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED...
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GUEST, -
IF NOT MORE, THEN TRYING TO BLOW UP AN AIRPLANE. IT WOULD BE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO IN THEIR DAILY LIVES. THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH OF FEAR WHERE YOU COULD...
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| 00:39:10 |
HOST, -
UNDER HITLER HAD. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT. SECONDLY, THE DRONE ATTACKS THAT ARE TAKING PLACEt( -- HOW
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| 00:39:23 |
CALLER, -
DOES THAT ONE SIDE WITH THE ONES THAT WERE DONE BY ISRAEL IN PALESTINE AND HOW DO THEY GO -- HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR REPUTATION? I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION...
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| 00:40:05 |
GUEST, -
JOE'SqGAZA TO GO AFTER HAMAS. IT HAS BEEN A PROLIFERATION OF CROWN TECHNOLOGY. -- DRONE TECHNOLOGY. THIS WILL BE INTERESTING AHEAD, HOW MANY COUNTRIES...
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| 00:41:12 |
GUEST, -
IS TOO EASY TO PUSH A BUTTON AND LAUNCH A MISSILE. IT TAKES A LOT OF THE DOCUMENT -- A LOT OF THE HUMAN CALCULUS OUT OF WAR. WHY DOES THE CIA USED DRONES...
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HOST, -
QAEDA -- PEOPLE WHO
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CALLER, -
ARE IN LEADERSHIP, LIKE WAS, BUT LATENT OR -- LIKE ALL THE OSAMA BIN LADEN OR ZAWAHIRI, ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED, AND THE WAY THEY ARE PROTECTED OR...
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