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00:00:57
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SEVERAL BOOKS INCLUDING "HOPE FOR ANIMALS AND THEIR WORLD", WHICH WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. WE MIGHT AS WELL GET TO IT. THIS BOOK IS A SERIES...
00:01:42
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UP. THEY LOSE HOPE AND DECIDE IT IS NOT WORTH DOING ANYTHING. MY CRAZY TRAVELS, AND 365 DAYS ALL OVER THE WORLD. I'VE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET THIS EXTRAORDINARY...
00:03:20
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NAMED OPRAH WINFREY, FRANKLIN. SCARLETT AND RHETT. THESE ARE VERY PERSONAL ISSUES TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED, AREN'T THEY? >> Guest: ABSOLUTELY....
00:03:51
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ALL HAVE NUMBERS. I DESCRIBE THEIR PERSONALITIES AND THEIR MINDS AND FEELINGS. WHEN I GET TO CAMBERS UNIVERSITY TO GET MY PH.D. I WAS TOLD THIS WAS...
00:05:10
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IT IS. GIVE THE NAMES FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BOOK. SOME CASES INTERESTINGLY PEOPLE STOPPED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE REINTRODUCING THEM INTO THE WILD...
00:05:34
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I, PERHAPS, SHOULD GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE SPECIES YOU WRITE ABOUT IN THIS BOOK. I FIND THEM ALSO INTERESTING. MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST PICK...
00:05:54
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Guest: I COULD NOT VISIT THEM ALL. THE WHOOPING CRANES, THE SANCTUARY IN TEXAS IN WHERE THE FIRST FLOCK SPEND THE SUMMER. I VISITED THE BREEDING CENTER....
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I WENT AND VISITED OPERATION MIGRATION. TEACHING THESE CRANES MIGRATION. THEY HAVE GOT TO GO UP. SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY, TOTALLY FASCINATING. >>...
00:06:53
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FLOCK WAS LOOKING LESS AND LESS. ONE DAY SOME HELICOPTER PILOTS SAW THIS WHITE BIRD WITH
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A GOLDEN COLOR, AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WERE. THEY WERE NESTING IT WOULD BUFFALO PARK IN CANADA. THIS IS A FLOCK THAT IS DOWN TO 27. MIGRATION GETTING...
00:08:08
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THE POINT WHERE WE COULD HAVE WRITTEN
00:08:12
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THEM OFF. >> Guest: ABSOLUTELY. >> Host: LET'S FORGET IT. LET'S PULL THE PLUG AND WALK AWAY, BUT IT DID NOT HAPPEN. SOME OF THE
00:08:21
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INCREDIBLY THINGS LIKE USING ULTRA LIGHTS TO
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TEACH MIGRATORY ROUTES. >> Guest: GEORGE ARCHIBALD. THIS ONE FEMALE. GENES THAT THEY WANTED WHICH HAD BEEN HAND RAISED. SO GEORGE VOLUNTEERED TO DO ...
00:09:01
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YOU FIRST ENTERED TANZANIAN WHAT DID YOU TAKE WITH YOU? >> Guest: WE COULD NOT AFFORD MUCH. TO WAS GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO THIS YOUNG AND UNTRAINED GIRL....
00:09:26
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AMERICAN BUSINESSMAN THIS, THE
00:09:33
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BRITISH AUTHORITIES, WILL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. MOM VOLUNTEERED. SO FORTUNATELY WE WERE ABLE TO GET MORE MONEY. I HAD A PENCIL, NOT VERY GOOD BINOCULARS....
00:10:43
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FORESTS. THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT
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THE SPECIES IN THIS BOOK HAVE IN COMMON. THEY HAVE ALL BENEFITED FROM THE FACT THAT
00:10:51
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THESE FIELD BIOLOGISTS HAVE COME IN THERE MAD RACE TO FIND OUT MORE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, HAVE ACTUALLY SUCCEEDED WITH THE HELP OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES,...
00:11:27
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HAVE ACCESS TO THAT KIND OF TOOL. SAYRE SO IT WAS HIT AND MISS. TRY AND HATCH THE EGG IN INCUBATORS. THE EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LAST OF THE BLACK ROBINS...
00:12:28
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OFF ITS WINGS IN THE COURSE OF THE DAY. AND WERE THERE ANY PARTICULAR SKILL SETS THAT YOU WERE IMPRESSED BY WHEN YOU IN YOUR TRAVELS? >> Guest: I WAS...
00:13:03
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THIS IS A SURPRISING PINNACLE MILES OFFSHORE WITH ONLY ONE CROP OF VEGETATION. BASICALLY ONE BUSH. HOW COULD THIS LEAF-EATING HUGE INSECT POSSIBLY SURVIVE...
00:14:15
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BE BETTER SPENT ON HABITAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD. THAT IS THE WAY THE ARGUMENT GOES. >> Guest: THERE IS NOT MUCH POINT IN IN THE HABITAT IF YOU HAVE...
00:14:44
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THE OPPORTUNITY. SOFT RELEASE VERSUS HARD RELEASE. SOFT RELEASE, TO ME, ALWAYS SEEMED BETTER. YOU CAN GO OUT AND COME BACK. YOU FEED HIM. HYDE RELEASE,...
00:15:32
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LESS PRESSING. I WONDER HOW WHETHER YOU HAVE IDEAS, WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN COMING UP WITH STRATEGIES TO DEAL WITH, FOR INSTANCE, THE POACHING PROBLEM,...
00:16:24
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OF YEARS. OPENING UP THE FORESTS WITH ROADS. OPENING UP THE FORESTS WITH ROADS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DAMAGING ANYWHERE. A COMPANY UP ANYTHING WITH...
00:18:10
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I BECAME INVOLVED. 1960 YOU COULD GO ALL THE WAY ALONG THE SHORE, THE EASTERN SHORE. IT WAS THE HABITAT ALL THE WAY. IT'S JUST SOME CLEARINGS AND A...
00:18:30
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THE EARLY '90'S, YOU KNOW, I KNEW THERE WAS DEFORESTATION GOING ON. IT WAS UTTERLY SHOCKING. THE HILLS WERE DEVASTATED. THERE WERE CLEARLY TOO MANY ...
00:22:03
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ARE NOW ABOUT 20 FT. HIGH. IT IS VERY RESILIENT. NATURE IS VERY RESILIENT. NOW WE ARE TRYING TO REPLICATE THIS ALONG OTHER WILDERNESS AREAS. HE NO,...
00:22:19
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CHINA, INDIA. SO HOPEFULLY USAID LOVES IT. THEY SENT 71 OF THEIR TOP PROJECT MANAGERS TO SEE HOW IT IS DONE. IT IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I USE IN THIS...
00:22:57
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INVESTED. YOU WRITE ABOUT READING "TARZAN" BOOKS, READING "DR. DOOLITTLE." I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO THINK OF YOU AS JANE EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE JANE. YOU...
00:23:41
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OF THING. WORLD WAR II WAS RAGING. WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR A BICYCLE LET ALONE A CAR. I COULD NOT
00:23:48
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AFFORD TO GO TO
00:23:50
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THE UNIVERSITY. I HAD AN AMAZING MOTHER WHO SAID IF YOU REALLY WANT SOMETHING YOU WORK HARD AND YOU NEVER GIVE UP AND FIND A WAY. IT WAS AN ANIMALS,...
00:25:02
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Host: OKAY. WELCOME BACK TO AFTER WORDS. WE ARE SPEAKING WITH JANE GOODALL ABOUT HER NEW BOOK, "HOPE FOR ANIMALS AND THEIR WORLD." I WOULD LIKE TO TALK...
00:26:06
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TO. I HAVE THREE YOUNG BOYS. THEY PLAYED OUTSIDE A LOT, BUT MOSTLY THEY PLAY ON FEELS SURROUNDED BY PARENTS. THEY DON'T CRAWL AROUND IN THE STREET. ...
00:27:25
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OF HIGH CRIME. IN ONE AREA THEY PUT TO VACANT LOTS. THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO GREEN IT. THE OTHER ON THEY LEFT. THE RATE OF CRIME DROPPED...
00:28:35
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GOING TO GROW INTO A BIG OAK TREE. WHEN IT STARTS TO GROW THERE ARE THESE OF A TINY ROOTS, AND IT LOOKS SO WEAK. YET THE LIFE FORCE IN THAT SEAT ...
00:28:46
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REACH THE WATER THAT THE ROOTS CAN WORK THROUGH BOULDERS AND EVENTUALLY PUSH THEM ASIDE. THAT LITTLE SHOOT FAST CAN WORK THROUGH CREVICES IN A BRICK...
00:30:27
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WE ARE URBAN. >> Host: AS A RESULT IT IS JUST NOT THE SAME THING TO SEE IT ON TV. SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. IF YOU COULD TAKE THE WORLD THAT LIVES...
00:30:57
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THEIR MOTHER INTO THE GENERAL TO LOOK
00:30:59
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L OOK AT CHIMPANZEES WHERE WOULD YOU TAKE THEM? HOW DO YOU SHOW THEM? >> Guest: I HAVE DONE IT. I THINK TO START WITH IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY...
00:31:29
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THERE ARE CLEAR FIELDS AND THEY CAN SEE THE FISH AND MAYBE SOME FROGS. THAT KIND OF PLACE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FEEL THREATENED. EVEN THAT WILL THREATEN...
00:32:20
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FAR MORE AMAZING SIGHTS THAT THE PEOPLE IN THIS BOOK HAVE SEEN IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A DIFFICULT THING TO GET ACROSS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN, NOT SPEND...
00:34:32
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WERE NOT FARMS. WHERE THE EGG CAME FROM. WHERE WAS THE HOLE BIG ENOUGH FOR THE EGG TO COME OUT. I ENDED UP PUTTING IN THE HENHOUSE. I APPARENTLY HID...
00:36:28
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TERRIBLE STATE. THE POLAR BEAR. I MEAN, ARE THERE LESSONS LEARNED THAT YOU LEARNED IN THESE CASE STUDIES THAT YOU WOULD APPLY ON THAT BROADER SCALE? ...
00:37:25
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PEOPLE WHO ARE DESPERATELY POOR. THEY ARE GOING THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN SELL THE PARTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF WE COULD INVOLVE THEM IN THE PROGRAM...
00:38:12
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WHAT CAN SURVIVE WHERE. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LEARNED A HUGE AMOUNT IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. IT STRIKES ME THAT THERE IS THIS KIND OF A CHART THAT YOU...
00:39:05
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THESE HUGE SLABS OF ICE CRASH OFF. THAT WAS A RAGING TORRENT OF MELTING ICE. THERE WAS NOT EVEN A TRICKLE 30 YEARS AGO. THEY CALL IT THE BIG ICE. I...
00:40:16
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THAT. YOU REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO WAY, TO STEAL A PHRASE FROM OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT, A YES-WE-CAN SITUATION. >> Guest: THINGS ARE BEING DONE...
00:40:51
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GOVERNMENT. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WERE TOLD, YOU HAVE GOT TO PLANT TREES. EVERY YEAR. THEY HAVE MADE A FILM. HE INTERVIEWED SOME OF THE FOUNDERS IN THE...
00:43:25
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THEY'RE NOT DOING WELL. THERE PROBABLY WAS WELL OVER A MILLION WHEN I BEGAN STRETCHED OVER 25 NATIONS. THEY ARE NOW IN 21 NATIONS. YOU KNOW, MAXIMUM...
00:43:40
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00:43:42
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PROBABLY LESS. THEIR FORESTS
00:43:43
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ARE DYING OF REALLY FAST. A REALLY SMALL FRAGMENTED PATCH. WE SHALL LOSE MANY MORE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THERE ARE LARGE AREAS SET ASIDE FOR CONSERVATION....
00:45:02
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THINGS RIGHT OR. >> Guest: TOO MANY INTERMINABLES. IF YOU TAKE ALL THE SCIENTISTS WHO WERE WORKING ON GLOBAL WARMING. THEY WERE WRONG. I WOULD NOT...
00:45:41
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ALTHOUGH WE NEED MONEY TO WORK WE SHOULD NOT WORK FOR MONEY. GETTING LOTS OF MONEY, ACQUIRING STUFF, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET A CRITICAL MASS OF YOUNG...
00:46:55
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A PLAGUE-LIKE EFFECT. WE COULD LOSE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. THE SILVER BUGS. WE MISS-USE ANTIBIOTICS, BECAUSE WE KEEP ANIMALS IN THE AWFUL...
00:47:12
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THEM ALIVE. BUGS ARE BUILDING UP RESISTANCE IN THE FOOD CHAIN. PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DIED FROM A SCRATCH. SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE...
00:47:55
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FIELD. AND NOW IT IS A FIELD THAT IN WHICH WOMEN ARE MUCH, MUCH MORE INVOLVED AND MUCH MORE ACCOMPLISHED. IT APPEARS TO BE BROAD, OPEN IN THAT RESPECT....
00:48:38
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REALIZED IF YOU CAN DO IT, I CAN DO IT, TOO. THIS IS A VERY GOOD FEELING. I KNOW FROM A NUMBER OF YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE SAID, YOU REALLY HELPED ME TO...
00:49:18
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A MESSAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND TO THE NEXT GENERATION? >> Guest: ABSOLUTELY. I GIVE THIS MESSAGE ALL THE TIME. IT IS BASICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW,...
00:49:47
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IN FACT, WHEN ENOUGH PEOPLE MAKE SMALL SOURCES LIKE WHAT YOU BUY, WHAT YOU EAT, WHAT YOU WEAR, WHERE DID IT COME FROM, DID IT INVOLVE ANIMAL SUFFERING...
00:51:10
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EVERYONE, GRATEFUL TO YOU
00:51:11
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FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
00:51:13
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THANK YOU. >> Guest: THANK YOU. I AM GRATEFUL TO ALL OF THE HEROES THAT SHARE THEIR PASSION WITH ME. .. GHOSTING

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