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Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OWNERS AS INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS HAVE ACCESS TO FASTER, MORE POWERFUL INTERNET CONNECTIONS. THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED AN EMERGING FORM...
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Smith, Lamar S. - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ASSOCIATIONS SUCH AS MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION AND THE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE NATIONAL COLIEGEIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION...
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| 00:04:52 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
VERY IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT IN ANALES OF HISTORY OF
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Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
COMMUNICATION. NO CONTENT PROVIDER IS IMMUNE. TODAY WE WILL EXAMINE THE IMPACT THAT STREAMING PIRACY HAS ON LIVE SPORTING EVENTS. THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES...
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Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
CHAIRMAN. >> MR. MICHAEL SEGAL? MR. LORENZO? AND OF COURSE MICHAEL WHO WILL START US
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Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
OFF. I
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| 00:07:47 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
RARELY STAY UP LATER THAN MY BEDTIME TO READ LAW REVIEW ARTICLES, BUT YOURS WHICH EXCEEDED 100 PAGES WAS FASCINATING AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU...
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Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
SEELY, MLB DEVELOPED DIVERSE AND INNOVATIVE SPORTS MEDIA BUSINESSES. ON TELEVISION, OUR TELECASTER DISTRIBUTED NATIONALLY THROUGH DIRECTV, ESPN,...
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| 00:14:52 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
PROMOTER AND HE'S GOT DEGREES FROM SAN DIEGO UNIVERSITY UNIVERSITY. WELCOME TO OUR HEARING, SIR. >> THANK YOU CHAIR MEN AND RANKING MEMBER SMITH AND...
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Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
EVENTS IMPACT OUR BUSINESS. THE PI RASY IS ILLEGAL, KILLS JOBS AND THREATENS THE EXPANSION OF U.S.-BASED COMPANIES. IN 2001 MY BROTHER AND I PERFORMED...
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| 00:21:11 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
MONTH. BEFORE THAT, HE WAS A CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR FOR FOR OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, MFUME, AND ARE WE RECOGNIZE HIS TALENT BECAUSE HE IS A POLITICAL SCIENCE...
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| 00:21:54 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
THE INVESTORS AND ENGINEERS BEHIND TIVO, GOOGLE, TWITTER, SKYPE,
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| 00:21:58 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
HOT MAIL AND MANY OTHER WELL-KNOWN TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES. WE PROVIDE
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| 00:22:02 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
A PLATFORM THAT EMPOWERS PEOPLE TO CREATE AND SHARE LIVE VIDEO ONLINE. THE SITE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF TOWN SQUARE, BUT INSTEAD OF STANDING ON A SOAP...
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| 00:26:34 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
HONORS OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY. I NOTE DUALLY. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. RANKING MEMBER SMITH OF THE MEMBERS...
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| 00:27:01 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
VITALITY OF THE MOST PROMISING AND CREATIVE ASSETS. EACH YEAR THEY INVEST BILLIONS TO PRODUCE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF HIGH QUALITY SPORTS ...
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Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
A I WIDE RANGE OF COMPANIES OFFERED DEVICES THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE ANALOG HOLD TO ENABLE USERS TO COPY HIGH DEFINITION PROGRAMMING...
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| 00:38:00 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
YOU. SO THE TWO QUESTIONS OCCUR. WHAT ARE SOME POSSIBLE LEGAL REMEDIES, AND HOW GOOD ARE THESE TECHNIQUES THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM BOTH SEIBEL AND YOU...
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| 00:39:33 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, THAT PRACTICES AND STANDARDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE WE HAVE SEEN THE WEIGHT OF THE GRAVITY OF THE PROBLEM OCCURRING NEEDS...
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| 00:41:27 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
BACK OF ME HERE THAT HAVE ALL THESE KINDS OF IDEAS. >> WELL, I THINK THERE IS A ROLE IN THE REALM OF INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT AND RELATED TREATIES...
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Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
UNITED NATIONS IS AN IMPORTANT PLAYER IN ALL OF THAT. AND SO THAT IS AN AREA THAT I AGREE SHOULD BE PURSUED, BUT IT WILL NEED ALSO THE FOLLOW-THROUGH...
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| 00:42:47 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
ENTREPRENEUR THAT STARTED A BUSINESS -- BOUGHT A BUSINESS THAT WAS NEARLY BANKRUPT, INVESTED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND IT HAS GROWN INTO AN...
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Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
PRODUCT THAT
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| 00:43:02 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
DISTRIBUTES AROUND THE GLOBE AND
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Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
OVER TO 75 MILLION HOMES. >> I'M PROU OF YOU BUT THAT'S NOT WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. >> I KNOW THE DMC WAS PUT IN PLACE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT CONTEMPLATED...
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| 00:43:32 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
AND TAKEDOWN AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO TAKE THAT DOWN, THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE,
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Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
IF IT'S WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS FOR ONE OF OUR EVENTS, WHICH IS A LIVE PAY-PER-VIEW. IT'S VERY PERISHABLE EVERY...
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| 00:44:11 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
ON. THERE WE GO. WE'RE ALL GOOD. I DON'T BELIEVE I'M QUALIFIED TO DISCUSS THE INTERNATIONAL SOLUTIONS OR THE LEGAL
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| 00:44:21 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
SOLUTIONS. I DO AGREE WITH MR. MELLIS THAT WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN CREATING A STANDARD IN
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| 00:44:28 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
THE UNITED STATES FOR HOW SITES THAT ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO CREATE AND
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| 00:44:31 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
SHARE LIVE VIDEO CAN ALSO WORK WITH COPYRIGHT HOLDERS TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS, AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THROUGH OUR COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SYSTEM AND ...
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| 00:45:24 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
ALSO AND WE PERHAPS NEED THE POWER OF PERSUASION OF THIS KMIET TEE AND LIKE COMMITTEES TO KEEP THE PRESSURE ON INDIVIDUALS LIKE MR. SEIBEL TO DO THE...
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| 00:45:37 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
TRAVERSE DOWN THEIR INDEX PAGE AND SEEING STREAM AFTER STREAM AFTER STREAM AND NOT SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE AND IT OUGHT TO BE...
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| 00:47:25 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
30 YEARS OF IT. WE LOOK TO FIND WAYS TO PUT THE ESPN IN ANY STREAM OF COMMERCE WHERE WE THINK THERE CAN BE A RETURN. BROADBAND IS NO DIFFERENT. SO WE'VE...
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Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
WAYS. ESPN360.COM IS ONE APPLICATION. WE THINK IT WORKS VERY WELL IN THE BROADBAND ENVIRONMENT. WE DECIDED AMONG A NUMBER OF APPROACHES WE WOULD APPROACH...
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| 00:49:15 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
LEAVING AND WOULD DO VERY WELL, AND THAT IS BROADBAND. THAT IS NOT THE BUSINESS
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Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
WE'RE IN. WE'RE A CONTENT COMPANY. WE SAID HOW CAN WE PARTICIPATE IN THIS IN
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| 00:49:24 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
A MEANINGFUL WAY TO OFFER SOMETHING TO BROADBAND DISTRIBUTORS THAT WOULD HELP THEIR BUSINESS. WE HAVE OTHER
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| 00:49:30 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
PRODUCTS AVAILABLE IN OTHER AREAS, SO WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET. ESPN.COM IS AVAILABLE ON THE OPEN INTERNET. IT HAS A TREMENDOUS...
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| 00:50:22 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
IS ILLEGAL, RIGHT? SO THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW. WHAT SIT YOU THINK WE DO HERE. >> I HAVE SOME CONCRETE
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| 00:50:34 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
SUGGESTIONS OF WAYS THE LAW MIGHT BE CHANGED -- CHANGES IN THE LAW THAT MIGHT CONTRIBUTE TO CURBING ILLEGAL PIRACY. THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT...
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Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
AND THAT'S CREATED PART OF THE CAT-AND-MOUSE GAME. WHAT THEY'LL DO IS TAKE IT DOWN, AND IT WILL IMMEDIATELY GET REPOSTED. ONE EXAMPLE MIGHT BE YOU...
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| 00:53:56 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
I THINK, IN QUITE SOME TIME, AND I CAN REMEMBER VERY WELL GOING BACK, I THINK, MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE WROTE THAT LEGISLATION. I WAS ASKED...
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| 00:54:12 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER INDUSTRY, THE UNIVERSITIES, AND OTHER USERS OF INTERNET CONTENT AND TRY TO IMAGINE THE NEGOTIATION OF THIS NOTICE AND TAKEDOWN...
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| 00:56:05 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
TO PUSH THIS FROM KIND OF THE LETTER AND E-MAIL WORLD INTO AN ONLINE FORM, AS SOON AS WE'RE NOTIFIED THROUGH THE COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SYSTEM, OUR SYSTEM...
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Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
I THINK WE SAT AROUND AND TALKED ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. IS THAT A FEASIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL TO OPERATE IN? I GUESS THEY CAN SEE COMING THE FACT THAT THEY'RE...
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| 00:57:38 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
BUT ALSO A SYSTEM BY WHICH PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE US WITH A FINGERPRINT, AND WE'LL USE OUR LIVE FINGERPRINTING PARTNER TO AUTOMATICALLY SEARCH OUT AND...
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Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
KOIP COPYRIGHTED. AND I HAVE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS WHERE INDIVIDUALS COMPLAIN THAT THEIR CONTENT HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN INPROMOTELY. ARE YOU ABLE TO JUDGE...
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| 00:59:09 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY GOOD ON JUSTIN.TV IN IDENTIFYING THEIR CONTENT AS OPPOSED TO -- >> NOT A LOT OF MISTAKES IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> EXACTLY? >>...
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Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
WSSSSS BUT THEY ALSO
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Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
ALLEGE THAT 37% OF THE NOTICES WERE NOT VALID COPYRIGHT
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Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
CLAIMS. YOU'VE INDICATED THAT YOU'VE NOT EXPERIENCED THOSE KINDS OF ABUSES, BUT I WANT TO DIRECT TO SOME OF THE THE CONTENT OWNERS, MR. DURSO, MR. FERTITTA,...
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Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
THIS REGARD. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WHO GOES TO JUSTIN.TV AND LOOKS THROUGH THEIR INDEX PAGE AND CLICK ON ANYTHING THEY SEE WILL NOT BE CONFUSED AT ALL...
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| 01:01:05 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
ESPN.
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Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
IT IS. IT'S FRUSTRATED FOR US TO HAVE TO PLAY THE CAT-AND-MOUSE GAME OF TRYING TO TAKE THAT
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| 01:01:12 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
DOWN AND DESPITE WHATEVER TECH LOGICAL ADVANCES MAY BE ON THE RISE HERE, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMPANIES WHO MAKE A FIRM COMMITMENT...
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| 01:02:07 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
THANK YOU. RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH NEW ZEALAND, I DON'T KNOW -- >> THIS IS SOMETHING THEY PRESENTED TO NEW ZEALAND, BUT THEY...
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| 01:02:26 |
Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
STREAMING, AND WHILE WEBSITES SAY THEY'RE DOING THINGS TO TRY TO PREVENT THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS US IS RIGHT ON THEIR
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| 01:02:32 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
OWN WEBSITES THEY PROVIDE EXACT DETAIL
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Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
ON HOW TO UPLOAD CONTENT FROM YOUR
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| 01:02:41 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
TELEVISION. AND CONTENT COMING FROM THE TELEVISION,
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| 01:02:43 |
Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
MY GUESS, WOULD BE THAT 99% OF IT WOULD BE COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL. SO NOT ONLY ARE THEY FACILITATING THIS, THEY'RE IN SOME WAYS ENCOURAGING IT, AND ...
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| 01:03:22 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
THE CLAIMS THEY ALLEGE ARE VALID. WE HEARD FROM YOU OTHER IDEAS THAT HAVE MERIT IN TERMS OF MAKING THEIR ABILITY TO PROTECT THEIR CONTENT STRONGER...
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| 01:03:32 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
MORE IMMEDIATE WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY THE ENVIRONMENT THEY'RE
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| 01:03:35 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
OPERATING IN, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T USE THIS IN AN ABUSIVE WAY? I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY A COMPETITOR WOULD HAVE MANY REASONS...
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| 01:04:32 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
SEE CONGRESS ENACTING A LAW THAT IF ANY CON TEBLT OWNER ON A PERSISTENT BASIS PURSUED A COURSE OF ACTION REALLY DESIGNED TO PULL DOWN CONTENT THAT...
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| 01:05:47 |
Goodlatte, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
SHARE WITH YOU THAT MY INITIAL MOTIVATION FOR COMING HERE WAS
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| 01:05:54 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
NOT SO MUCH TO LEARN ABOUT THE PIRACY BUT TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT I COULD HAVE ANOTHER
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| 01:06:00 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
WAY OF LOOKING AT THE NFL AND ITS AROUNDNTITRUST. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SINGLE EFFORTS TO DEAL WITH SOME -- SOME OF THE PROBLEMS OF SOME OF THE OLDER...
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| 01:07:06 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
YOUR TELEVISION SET. WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS UNSCREW THE END FROM YOUR TELEVISION SET AND THEN YOU WOULD SCREW THIS TV STICK INTO THAT END HERE, AND ON...
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| 01:08:50 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER, WHICH WOULD RECEIVE THE COAXIAL CABLE INTO THE BACK AND HAVE THIS NUB ON IT, AND
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| 01:09:02 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE CARD ACHIEVES THE SAME FUNCTION AND THE SAME PURPOSES OF IT. >> WHAT OTHER USE WOULD THESE DEVICES HAVE OTHER THAN THE PIRACY...
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| 01:09:28 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
THE PIRACY OF OUR GAME TELECASTS, UNFORTUNATELY. >> WHERE ARE THEY SOLD? >> THEY'RE WIDELY AVAILABLE. THEY CAN BE BOUGHT AT AMAZON. WE BOUGHT THIS...
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| 01:09:38 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
A STAPLES STORE. >> SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD BOOE USED FOR A LEGITIMATE USE? >> I THINK THEY COULD BE. WHAT I E-MAIL SAYING IS...
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| 01:09:53 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
TO WATCH TELEVISION PROGRAMMING ON YOUR
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| 01:09:55 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
PERSONAL COMPUTER. THEN THERE'S THE NEXT STEP WHERE BY DOWNLOADING THE PEER-TO-PEER SERVICE CLIENT FROM A
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| 01:10:01 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
CHINESE SERVICE, LET'S SAY, OR FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM A SERVICE LIKE JUSTIN, THAT YOU WOULD
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| 01:10:08 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
THEN TAKE THAT CONVERTED SIGNAL -- OR SOMEONE COULD -- UPLOAD IT TO THE PUBLIC INTERNET FOR WORLDWIDE VIEWING. >> I SEE. WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY,...
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| 01:10:37 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
COMMITTEE IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CORRECT THE PROBLEMS OF PIRACY. BUT AS WE DO THAT, I'M ALSO WANTING TO KEEP YOU FOCUSED ON THE NFL AND THE...
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| 01:11:46 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
EXCEPTIONSEM CHUN, I'M HAPPY. >> WE TURN NOW TO HOWARD KOVAL, A DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF THE JUDICIARY
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| 01:11:56 |
Waters, Maxine - U.S. Representative, [D] California
COMMITTEE FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND INVITE HIM TO QUESTION OR WITHINS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND WELCOME TO THE PANELISTS BEFORE US TODAY. GENTLEMEN...
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| 01:12:11 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
AND I THINK THAT ROBUST AND EFFECTIVE AMERICAN COPYRIGHT LAWS ARE ESSENTIAL TO CONTENT OWNERS WHO WORK TO PROTECT THEIR WORKS FROM
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| 01:12:21 |
Coble, John "Howard" - U.S. Representative, [R] North Carolina
BEING INFRINGED BY INDIVIDUALS, AND I THINK PROBABLY WE ALL CONCUR WITH THAT, DO WE NOT? AND I'M GLARD TO HEAR THAT. MR. DURSO I WAS GOING TO OFFER,...
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| 01:13:21 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
SALE OF THIS PRODUCT AND THE WHOLESALE MARKETPLACE AND THE IMPACT OF THE PRICING AND THE ISPs. THAT'S THEIR DECISION TO MAKE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING...
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| 01:14:35 |
Coble, John "Howard" - U.S. Representative, [R] North Carolina
INFRINGEMENT THROUGH REBROAD
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| 01:14:37 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
KATREBROADCASTING. WHICH OF THESE DO YOU THINK IS MOST REALISTIC? >> WHEN YOU
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| 01:14:45 |
Coble, John "Howard" - U.S. Representative, [R] North Carolina
SEE HOW PIRACY AND OTHER SECURITY PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ON THE INTERNET IN OTHER CONTEXTS, IT'S VERY RARE TO SEE ONE SINGLE STRATEGY THAT IS...
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| 01:15:06 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
CONTENT PROVIDER INSTEAD OF SENDING IT OUT ON A LIVE BASIS, DO IT ON A NEAR LIVE BASIS DELAYED BY A FEW SECONDS TO ALLOW THAT TECHNOLOGY TO WORK. YOU...
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| 01:16:17 |
Coble, John "Howard" - U.S. Representative, [R] North Carolina
THIS MICROPHONE GOES LIFRPMP ALL THE TIME. MAYBE WE CAN GET IT TO --
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| 01:16:23 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
MAYBE WITH SOME VIAGRA OR SOMETHING WE CAN GET IT TO -- >> I HOPE NOBODY CHOOSES TO TAKE YOUR
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| 01:16:32 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
WORDS DOWN, MR. JOHNSON. >> YES. WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. SEIBEL -- AND BY THE WAY, I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT YOUR FIRM SUPPORTS GETTING A HANDLE ON...
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| 01:16:51 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
OF COPYRIGHT
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| 01:16:55 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
INFRINGEMENT. BUT I'VE GOT TO ASK YOU,U, D DYOYO THK IT'SORORALLY R RIGHT FOR YOUR FIRM TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL WITHOUT THE...
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| 01:17:50 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
WHERE JUSTIN.TV BEGAN, WE STARTED WITH BROADCASTING ONE PERSON'S LIFE ONLINE. THAT WAS OUR CO-FOUNDER JUSTIN KAHN. THE VIEWERS OF THAT BROADCAST ...
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| 01:18:34 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
SPEAKING OF THE -- THIS PRECISE ISSUE. AND IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. >> CERTAINLY. SO WHEN DESIGNING A SITE...
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| 01:19:03 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
IS NOT TO SUPPORT THAT. I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE BUSINESS MODEL OF JUSTIN.TV IS NOT BASED AROUND SUPPORTING THAT. CONTINUED BROADCASTS OF UNAUTHORIZED...
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| 01:19:53 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
JUSTIN.TV, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BUSINESS MODEL, IT
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| 01:19:57 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
IS REALLY THREE FOLD. THE FIRST ASPECT IS AN ADVERTISING
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| 01:20:02 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
SUPPORTED MODEL. THE SECOND ASPECT IS GOING TO PARTNERS WHO WANT TO DISTRIBUTE LIVE CONTENT ON OUR PLATFORM AND CHARGING IN A METERED FORMAT. AND...
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| 01:20:14 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
TO PARTNERS WHO HAVE PREMIUM CONTENT THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN CHARGE A PAY-PER-VIEW OR SUBSCRIPTION FEE FOR AND TO SUPPORT THAT TRANSACTION AND...
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| 01:21:08 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
NAPSTER, WHICH WAS KIND OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY -- YEAH, FORCED TO CHANGE ITS -- IT WAS FORCED TO CHANGE ITS METHODS OF DISTRIBUTION OF COPYRIGHTED...
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| 01:22:09 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
DIDTRY BUGS OF CONTENT. THEY WORKED WITH OWNERS TO HELP REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE COPYRIGHTING THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED. JUSTIN.TV WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO...
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| 01:22:56 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT AS ITS BUSINESS MODEL BUT IS NONETHELESS USED FOR SUBSTANTIAL INFRINGEMENT,
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| 01:23:02 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
AT SOME POINT IT CAN BECOME LIABLE AS A CONTRIBUTORY INFRINGER. THE SUPREME COURT DID NOT CLARIFY EXACTLY WHERE THAT LINE IS. IT'S AMBIGUOUS, AND...
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| 01:24:12 |
Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
GIVE CONSUMERS OUR PRODUCT ON ANY FORMAT THEY WANT, WHETHER THEY WANT TO WATCH IT ON SATELLITE, CABLE, BROADBAND, ON THEIR TELEPHONE. WE OFFER THOSE...
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| 01:25:06 |
Johnson, Henry "Hank" C. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Georgia
TOM ROONEY. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS A FRESHMAN, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE LOW MAN ON THE TOTEM POLE. >> WAS
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| 01:25:20 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
THAT INCLUDING VIAGRA ISSUE AS WELL? >> YES, SIR. >> I WARNED YOU ABOUT THAT, JOHNSON? >> THAT'S MY SIGN TO TALK QUICKLY HERE. MR.
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| 01:25:28 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
YOO, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY MY PREDISPOSITION IS TO PROTECT, YOU...
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| 01:25:41 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
RIGHTS, AND CERTAINLY I
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| 01:25:43 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE COURTS
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| 01:25:45 |
Conyers, John Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
LEAVING
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| 01:25:46 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
IT OPEN TO CONGRESS TO FILL IN THE GAPS HERE, AND OBVIOUSLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S OUR DUTY MOVING FORWARD IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S...
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| 01:28:01 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
THAT ON JUSTIN.TV. THERE ARE 1.9 MILLION BROADCASTS A MONTH, AND WE BELIEVE THAT ANY ATTEMPT TO MANUALLY MONITOR THE SITE WOULD CREATE AN UNFAIR EXPECTATION...
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| 01:28:58 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
EXPERT. >>
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| 01:28:59 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
DOES ANYBODY? >>
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| 01:29:01 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
JUSTIN.TV WOULD LOSE THEIR RIGHTS. THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO COPYRIGHT LIABILITY AND STATUTORY DAMAGES AND ANY DAMAGES THAT COULD BE PROVEN. THERE'S...
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| 01:29:17 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
VIOLATION. THIS
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| 01:29:19 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
IS CASES ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT THIS CONGRESS
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Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
IS -- >> MR. SEIBEL, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME ALREADY. WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THESE GUYS IN THE FUTURE,...
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| 01:29:44 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
SOLUTION TO REMOVE NBC's NFL GAME FROM THE SITE AND THEN EVENTUALLY ANY NFL GAME THAT MIGHT APPEAR ON JUSTIN.TV. AND SO WHEN WE RAN A TEST JUST THIS...
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| 01:29:59 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
AUTOMATICALLY IDENTIFY AND REMOVE THE MAJORITY OF NFL GAMES THAT APPEARED ON THE SITE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. >> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH...
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| 01:30:26 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
HOW DO YOU WORK WITH COPYRIGHT HOLDERS TO ADDRESS THAT AND REMOVE THAT CONTENT AND REMOVE THAT USER FROM THE SITE? >> I KNOW MY TIME -- CAN
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| 01:30:36 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE? >> WE DO HAVE TO VOTE. >> VERY QUICKLY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. MR. YOO, YOU MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO MAYBE PRECLUDING...
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| 01:30:56 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
REACTING, HOW
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| 01:30:58 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
CAN WE BE
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| 01:30:59 |
Rooney, Thomas "Tom" J. - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
PROACTIVE, AND THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CONSEQUENCES FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. I BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID THAT ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT IS...
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| 01:31:47 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
THE CONTENT EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM? ANY ASPECT CAN BYE ABUSED. THE REAL PROBLEM IS IN THE END USER WHOSE ARE EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND,...
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| 01:32:52 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
QUESTION. MR. FERTITTA, DO YOU HAVE ANY RELATIVES IN TEXAS? >> I CERTAINLY DO. >> OH, MY GOODNESS. >> GALVESTON, TEXAS. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'VE OBVIOUSLY...
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| 01:33:16 |
Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
STATE. I WANT TO THANK
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| 01:33:18 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
MR. SEIBEL FOR
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| 01:33:19 |
Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
HIS CREATIVITY
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| 01:33:20 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
AND I HOPE OUR QUESTIONS DON'T DISREGARD UNIQUENESS OF YOUR EFFORTS. BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE POINTED IN MY QUESTIONS AND PARTICULARLY SITE LANGUAGE...
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| 01:34:26 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
DECIDE ANYTHING ASIDE FROM MUSIC. >> SO THERE'S THE
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| 01:34:29 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
POSSIBILITY WE WOULD LEGISLATIVELY ACT OR THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ONGOING COURT PROCEEDINGS OR ACTIONS THAT INDIVIDUAL WHOSE FELT THEY WERE AGGRIEVED...
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| 01:34:41 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
THEN LET ME INDICATE THAT THOUGH WE DON'T OFTEN CITE OUR WORK,
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| 01:34:49 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
I THINK OUR JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN A CHAMPION ON JOB CREATION, AND IT HAS DONE SO BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN TO TASK THIS WHOLE QUESTION OF COPYRIGHT...
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| 01:35:00 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
HAVE A PRODUCT CONTENT, YOU ALSO HAVE
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| 01:35:03 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
JOBS. YOU HAVE THE INSTITUTION THAT DEPENDS ON CONTENT. AND I JUST WANT TO CITE FOR THE RECORD SOME DEALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD. ESPN HAS IN...
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| 01:37:08 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
OFFSHORE THROUGH ROGUE SITES AND
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| 01:37:10 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
SERVICES WHERE WE DON'T KNOW
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| 01:37:11 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
MUCH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PIRACY INCIDENTS THERE ARE. >> YOU DO KNOW IF PIRACY CONTINUES AND YOUR PRODUCT DEPLETES IN VALUE, THE POTENTIAL THAT...
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| 01:37:35 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
COMPANY. WE HAVE TRADED THOUSANDS OF JOBS, WE HAVE BUILT A COMPANY WITH OUR CONTENT AND PAY PER VIEW REPRESENTS OVER HALF OF OUR REVENUES.
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| 01:37:45 |
Mellis, Michael - Senior Vice President
IT'S OVER HALF OF OUR
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| 01:37:46 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
TOTAL REVENUES.
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| 01:37:48 |
Fertitta, Lorenzo - Chief Executive Officer
SO WHEN PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE JUST TO LOG ON TO THE INTERNET AND GET IT FOR FREE, IT'S CERTAINLY IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO RUN OUR -- >> MR. DERSO -- >>...
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| 01:38:19 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
TEACH IN NASHVILLE. THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
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| 01:38:22 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
WAS BEHIND THE CURVE ON THIS, THEY'VE BEEN LOSING JOBS LIKE CRAZY. THE TELEVISION INDUSTRY WANTS TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT. >> DO
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| 01:38:29 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
YOU WANT TO WORK WITH US, YOUR
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| 01:38:31 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
BUSINESS
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| 01:38:32 |
Durso, Ed - Executive Vice President
OBVIOUSLY, PROVIDES
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| 01:38:33 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
INCOME. DO YOU SEE THE VALUE OVER TRYING
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| 01:38:36 |
Yoo, Christopher S. - Professor
TO GET A GFL ROAD MAP SO YOU IS CAN EXIST, BUT WE CAN PREVENT PIRACY IN THE INTERNET? >> DEFINITELY. >> LET ME THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS...
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| 01:38:50 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
THE CHAIRMAN WANTS TO COME BACK? >> WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS HEARING, SO THIS HEARING NOW STANDS IN ADJOURNMENT. IN RECESS, EXCUSE ME. WE ARE -- WHAT...
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| 01:39:02 |
Seibel, Michael - Senior Vice President and General Counsel
OKAY, WELL, THIS --
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| 01:39:03 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
EXCUSE ME. LET ME PULL THAT BACK. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS THIS HEARING, AND WE ASK THAT
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| 01:39:10 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
THE WITNESSES REMAIN AVAILABLE.
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| 01:39:12 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT 10 MINUTES, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER, BUT WE NEED YOU TO STAND BY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THIS HEARING IS IN RECESS. THANK YOU. ...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.