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BORING. SO I WAS RUNNING AROUND THE

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THE FIRST ARE EASY TO READ. I FEEL THAT MY READERS WILL GROW WITH ME. SO THE FIRST BOOK IS ABOUT THE FIRST AMERICANS, PEOPLE COMING OVER THE BERING

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ALWAYS HAVE 15 BOOKS. I BUY BOOKS, I UNDERLINE.

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AFFAIRS HAPPEN FOR THREE PUBLISHERS. WHEN I

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INTO A PBS SPECIAL, AS WELL. WE ARE TO PUT OUR NUMBERS UP. WE HAVE SET ASIDE A SPECIAL LINE FOR STUDENTS AND EDUCATORS BECAUSE OF JOY HAKIM'S EXPERTISE....

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THEM, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A NEW KIND OF TEACHING. THE OLD MODEL IS THE EXPERT STANDING IN FRONT OF THE CLASSROOM LECTURING. THAT DOES NOT WORK IN THE...

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BUT I LIKE PUNS. I JUST

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GUEST: I TALKED TO CHILDREN IN MY BOOKS. THAT IS WHY IT'S SO MUCH RESPONSE FROM THEM, BECAUSE THEY FEEL AN URGE TO TALK BACK. YOU MAY NOT LIKE THAT. BUT...

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WAS THIS THE MANTRA AND THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY. IT IS TRUE THAT CHILDREN DO NOT BUY BOOKS, BUT I WROTE MY BOOKS FOR KIDS AND I PAID THEM TO REVIEW...

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WHAT IS THERE AND EXPLAIN. IT IS BUSY, BUT KIDS ARE USED TOO BUSY. I HAVE THE CHOICE OF DUMBING DOWN AND NOT USING BIG WORDS, OR USING INTENSE WORDS....

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I SENT THE SCRIPT TO A WHOLE LOT OF PUBLISHERS. I SENT IT TO EDUCATORS AND UP REAL INTEREST. BUT I ALSO PUT IT IN, AND IT WAS GREATER THAN I THOUGHT....

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IT WAS AN IDEAL. WE FOUGHT OVER THINGS, BUT BASICALLY, SHE MADE SUGGESTIONS AND IT WAS VERY NICE. HOST: BYRON IS QUOTED AS SAYING THAT TEXTBOOKS ARE...

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MY OF BOOKS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED IN FLORIDA AND TEXAS, YOU HAVE TO SEND OUT ARMIES OF BOOKS TO EVERY SINGLE TOWN, WHICH IS PROHIBITIVE. MY PUBLISHERS JUST...

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WE JUST DO NOT TEACH HISTORY WELL, AND OFTEN NOT AT ALL, TO OUR KIDS. BUT AFTER THE CRASH, THE DEPRESSION, HISTORY WAS EVERYONE'S FAVORITE. WE TALK...

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AS POSSIBLE AND SHOW ALL SIDES. IT IS IMPORTANT. THE KIDS NEED TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES.

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SO POLARIZED, AND KNEE-JERK STUFF. THE HISTORY IS A PLACE WHERE WE ALL, RIGHT WING AND LEFT WING, WANT OUR CHILDREN

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IS THERE BECAUSE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. WE HAVE TO HAVE A TOKEN MEXICAN.

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HISTORY. IT IS SO INTERESTING, AND WE WOULD BE BETTER

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I, LIKE YOU, HAVE JUST ABOUT -- I HAVE BEEN APPALLED AT THE LACK OF TEACHING OF U.S. HISTORY IN SCHOOLS. I WAS GOING IN 1962, I AM A HISTORY BUFF, AND...

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THE REASON I'M CALLING IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST MENTIONED THE BERING STRAIT, I THOUGHT THAT THAT MUST HAVE BEEN MY ANCESTORS. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED...

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GUEST: THERE WAS A TIME WHEN KIDS MEMORIZED MORE THAN THEY DO TODAY. I THINK THERE ARE ONLY A FEW DATES THAT

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CLASS, WITH KEY DATES. IF YOU KNOW 30,000

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PROBLEMS WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CLASSROOMS, PARTICULARLY AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL. BUT I FEEL THE PROBLEM STARTS BEFORE. TEACHERS GO FOR THE UNIVERSITY'S...

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SAT THERE. IT WAS MAUDLIN. EVERYONE HAS A GOOD TIME, BECAUSE, HEY, TEACHERS TO SPEND SOME TIME OUT OF THE CLASSROOM AND CONNECT WITH OTHER TEACHERS....

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IT IS ONLY BETTER IF IT IS BETTER. IT IS NOT THE ISSUE TO ME. THE ISSUE IS IDEAS. PUTTING THEM ON A SCREEN DOES NOT NECESSARILY MAKE IT BETTER. HOST:...

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OUT. IF A BOOK IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SELL AT A BOOKSTORE, THEY SAY, IT SHOULD NOT BE IN A CLUSTER. WE SHOULD JUST DO AWAY WITH THIS DISTINCTION BETWEEN...

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THE AVERAGE HIGH-SCHOOL GRADUATE NEVER READ A WHOLE NON-FICTION BOOK IN FOUR YEARS OF HIGH- SCHOOL. I CANNOT READ NONFICTION WITHOUT COUNSEL. I HAVE...

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JOB, A TEACHER CALLED INTO THE OFFICE, AND THE PRINCIPLE CALLED IN AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MINISTER TO READ THE BOOK. AND WHEN HE FINISHED, HE SAID, THIS...

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IS REALLY TOUGH TO DECIDE WHAT TO PUT IN, AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

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HAVE ENOUGH GREAT EDUCATORS AND EDUCATION PHILOSOPHERS, AND SHE IS ONE OF THEM. EDUCATION WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR PLATO, FOR RUSSO, FOR MONTESQUIEU, FOR...

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YOU, DENNIS ALLEN. GUEST: THAT IS NICE. I HEAR FROM A LOT OF PARENTS THEY ARE LEARNING HISTORY FROM THEIR CHILDREN. GUESHOST: WHAT ABOUT THE USE OF THE...

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ASKING -- I WAS NOT SURE IF HOME SCHOOLERS QUALIFIED AS GENUINE EDUCATORS. I

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AND YET SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING. OUR SCIENCE COURSE GO DOWN. WE ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. THERE IS THIS PROBLEM. I THINK IT IS BECAUSE...

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THE CIVIL WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION BOOKS WORK READ BY A PRINCETON PROFESSOR. HE FOUND A FEW THINGS THAT WERE WRONG, AND I CORRECTED THEM. IT IS VERY GOOD...

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POLITICS OF THE PAST AND YOU CANNOT EXPECT EVERYONE TO SEE IF THE SAME. COULD THE -- KID SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT. -- KIDS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT. HOST:...

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CONTACT WITH STUDENTS WHO ARE IN TEACHER- TRAINING INSTITUTIONS IN MY TOWN. I HAVE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR CURRICULUM RECENTLY, AND I HAVE TO...

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I HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS A TEACHER IN CALIFORNIA. SHE TELLS ME THAT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE TEST THEY START TEACHING TO THE TEST. THE REST OF

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STATUTE FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. IT WAS WRITTEN BY THOMAS

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JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. YOU ARE ON THE LINE.

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TO INSERT AFRICAN AMERICANS? WE HAVE COME HERE AND BEEN HERE -- YOUR HISTORY ALWAYS STARTS WITH THE FACT THAT WE WERE SLAVES. I AM JUST CURIOUS WHY WE'RE...

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SHE WAS SURE THAT I WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN. THE BOOKS ARE FILLED WITH AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY. I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS. AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY DOES...

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TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. ONE WAY IS TO BRING PARENTS -- I AM THINKING OF THE FANCY SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT USES MY BOOKS AND THEY ASK...

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PRINCIPAL AND THERE MIGHT BE LAYERS, BUT THERE ARE VERY FEW ADMINISTRATORS IN THE UPSCALE SCHOOLS. YOU GO INTO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THERE IS LAYER AFTER...

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I ASKED HER, HOW IN THE WORLD DID YOU SELL MORE PAPERS THAN ANYONE ELSE? SHE SAID SHE WENT INTO THE IMMIGRANT DISTRICT WHERE NO ONE SPOKE ENGLISH AND...

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RECALLECOURIC WAS THE NARRATOR. HE CALLED ALL OF HIS FRIENDS IN HOLLYWOOD AND ASK THEM TO BE VOICES. EVERYONE THAT YOU HAVE EVER HEARD OF IN HOLLYWOOD...

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THEY WOULD NOT SELL TO THEM BECAUSE IT WAS NOT -- THE SCHOOL SALES PERSON DID NOT HAVE IT IN HIS WHAT EVER. THIS WAS JUST A LOSE/LOSE. THE PEOPLE WERE...

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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WEST SUDDENLY IN DELIBERATELY ATTACKED BY NAVAL AND AIR RESOURCES OF THE EMPIRE OF JAPAN. >> AT 7:55 THAT SUNDAY MORNING,...

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DECEMBER 7, 1941, AMPED DATE WHICH WILL LIVE AND WHO INFAMY. DIG A DATE WHICH WILL LIVE IN INFAMY. -- A DATEW WHICH WILL LIVE IN INFAMY. >>

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WHEN I SAT UP, I HAD TO PULL HIS PIECES OF GRAVEL OUT OF MY FACE. >> THAN THE ALLIES WON THREE BIG VICTORIES IN THE CORAL SEA, AT MIDWAY ISLAND, AND AT...

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FREEDOM MEANS HUMAN RIGHTS EVERYWHERE. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I HAVE A LOT OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN THE BOOKS, BUT THE QUESTION IS, AND

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WRITING A BOOK ON THE WOMEN'S RIGHT S MOVEMENT? -- HAVE AII CONSIDERED WRITING A BOOK ON

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WAYS TO COME AT WRITING. YOU CAN RIDE OUT OF EXPERTISE -- WRITE OUT OF EXPERTISE. THE OTHER WAY IS TO WRITE TO LEARN. I HAVE

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HE WAS VERY BRIGHT, BUT HE HAD AN ATTITUDE IN COLLEGE. HE ENJOYED ALL OF HIS PROFESSORS -- KEY AND AWAY THE -- HE ANNOYED

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I WANT TO READ JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM THE STORY OF SCIENCE, BUT EINSTEIN VOLUME -- THE EINSTEIN VOLUM. E." " THE MANHATTAN PROJECT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE...

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STORY OF SCIENCE, ARISTOTLE LEADS THE WAY. WHY DID YOU START WITH HIM?

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NOT TEACHING IT. WE'RE NOT TEACHING QUANTUM THEORY

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HOST: YOU START OFF WITH ARISTOTLE ON THE COVER. YOU START OFF WITH GENESIS. YOU ALSO START OFF

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A PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE. BUT TODAY'S SCIENCE ALSO TELLS US ABOUT OUR PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE. WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT, AND UNDERSTAND IT AND BALANCE...

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HOST: HAD YOU BEEN CRITICIZED FOR STARTING OFF THIS WAY?

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ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE PART OF OUR

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CALLER: MY QUESTION IS, COULD THE LACK OF HISTORY BEING TAUGHT AND THE LAST 10 OR 20 YEARS BE A GREAT SCHEME OF BEING ABLE TO REWRITE HISTORY BECAUSE...

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WE ARE TEACHING PRIMARILY IS A 19TH CENTURY SCIENCE OR EARLIER -- NEWTONIAN SCIENCE. WHICH IS THE SCIENCE OF THE WORLD WE INHABIT. SO THAT IF I THROW...

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FOLLOWS NEW'S RULES. MOST OF WHAT WE LEARN IN SCHOOL IS THE SIZE OF THE MACRO WORLD. BUT THERE IS AN ATOMIC WORLD AND THE ATOMIC WORLD DOES NOT FOLLOW...

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ENTITY. WE DISCOVERED THAT IT IS REALLY SMALL AND THE NUCLEUS HOLD MOST OF THE MATTER, THE MASS OF THE ATOM. AND WE LEARNED ALL THE RULES, WE LEARNED...

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HOST: I AM. GUEST: I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR BOOK. THE FIRST TWO BOOKS -- I HAD EXPERTS READ THEM. BUT THE THIRD BOOK...

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THIS STUFF IS TOUGHT. . THEY HAD FOUND SOME THINGS WRONG. I HAD FIXED IT. AND IT WAS DONE. THEN I GOT AN EMAIL FROM EDWIN TAYLOR AT MIT. I THINK TODAY...

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AND TODAY ARE KIND OF STANDARD STUFF. -- THEYA ARE KIND OF STANDARD STUFF. AND EDUCATION TEAM AT JOHNS HOPKINS DISCOVERED THE HISTORY BOOKS AND WAS...

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DIFFERENTLY TO YOUR BOOKS ON SCIENCE?

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TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. I HAD BEEN A REPORTER. I KNEW ALL THE PEOPLE. I WANT TO TRY THIS WITH KIDS IN A CLASSROOM. I ASSUMED THERE WOULD ASK FOR A VOLUNTEER...

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ZOOBUG 64. HGUEST: I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TEACH CRITICAL THINKING. IT IS BE ABLE TO THINK. ONE OF MY SONS HAD A COURSE CALLED CRITICAL THINKING. I...

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TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT EDUCATION BECAUSE WE ARE NOT PROVIDING WORKERS FOR OUR INDUSTRY. IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATION, TO TURN OUT EMPLOYEES? OR IS...

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I WENT INTO A LOT OF USED BOOKSTORES. IT TAKES A LITTLE DIGGING AND WORK, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OUT. HOST: JOY HAKIM'S "FREEDOM" BOOK IS...

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DEBATES ON A ROLL OF SCIENCE AND SCIENTISTS LIKE THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE? GUEST: CLIMATE CHANGE IS A REALLY MAJOR KIND OF THING. SIGNS BECAME A POPULAR...

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BEFORE THAT, MAYBE IT WAS JUST LEFT TO THE SCIENTISTS. THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE, WHEN WE FIRST FOUND DINOSAUR BONES AND 19TH CENTURY. WE FOUND THESE...

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WE SHOULD BEAT -- WE SHOULD BE GRADUATING HIGH- SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO KNOW MORE. IN DENVER, FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS A HIGH SCHOOL THAT I KNOW ABOUT IN A...

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THEY GIVE A LOT OF INITIATIVES TO THE STUDENTS. THERE IS SELF-DISCOVERY. EVERYBODY LEARNS EVERYTHING TOGETHER. IF YOU HAVE BRIGHT PEOPLE, SCIENCE IS...

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TEACHY. HE IS TEACHING AT AN OSHA LIFELONG LEARNING INSTITUTE, AN ADJUNCT OF DENVER UNIVERSITY. HE HAS TAUGHT THEATER THERE. HE IS GOING TO BE TEACHING...

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GREAT. HE WENT TO ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE. HE WON A PULITZER

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REPORTING. HE IS HEAD OF THE ALBANY BUREAU. HE BROKE THE ELIOT

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DANNY HAS TWO LITTLE BOYS -- CASEY AND ELI. CASEY IS A WORLD EXPERT ON SPACE. HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT THE APOLLO MISSIONS AND HE LOVES SPACE. HOST: ANY OTHER...

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JEFF IS MARRIED TO A SPEECH PATHOLOGIST IN THE MARYLAND SCHOOLS. SHE IS WONDERFUL. I THINK THE KIDS ARE ALL PERFECT. AND JEFF IS TERRIFIC. HE IS A TYPICAL...

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JEFF AND BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA. CALLER: I AM TRYING TO BE CONCISE, BUT MY SON'S EXPERIENCE IS WITH NOMINALLY EPISCOPAL, PRIVATE SCHOOLS. IT IS HARD TO...

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WHAT IS COMMUNISM AND WHY HIS APPEAL TO SO MANY PEOPLE? IF WE HAVE A POLITICAL PHILOSOPHER LIT -- PHILOSOPHY THAT WE FEEL IS SUPERIOR, THE ONLY WAY...

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IS PERFECT OR HAS IT ALL RIGHT H. HOST: LEBANON, TENNESSEE. GOOD AFTERNOON. CALLER: I TEACH U.S. HISTORY TO EIGHTH GRADERS. AND I LOVE U.S. HISTORY....

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IN HISTORY TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS. IT IS A COMPETITION. YOU COMPETE WITH KIDS IN YOUR OWN GREAT. YOU CAN DO A PAPER. THAT IS USUALLY THE LEAST POPULAR....

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SETS THE SCENE, THE KIDS DON'T RESEARCH THEMSELVES, AND THEY ARE DOING AN EXPERIENTIAL -- THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU DON'T REMEMBER. WE NEED TO HAVE THEM PARTICIPATE...

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TAKE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND COME BACK TO THAT CLASS, THEY WILL ALL LEARN. HOST: FRANK IN TEXAS. CALLER: MY QUESTION IS INVOLVING POLITICS AND SCIENCE....

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VILLAGE TO RAISE A KID. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE AND MORE SCIENTISTS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY GETTING INTO SCHOOLS. IF YOU HAVE IDEAS AND INFORMATION,...

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GUEST: I AM ASTONISHED ON AMAZON HOW GOOD THE REVIEWS ARE. I AM WRITING BOOKS ON BIOLOGY AND CHANGE OVER TIME, WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING EVOLUTION....

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AND ENTRANCE EXAMS WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO GET INTO GOOD COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES? GUEST: I SAID BEFORE THAT A PRETTY MUCH ONLY NEED GOOD TEACHERS, BECAUSE...

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AM AMAZED AND DELIGHTED, AND I DO THINK I HAVE FANS ON LEFT AND RIGHT. AND I THINK AMERICAN HISTORY IS WHERE WE CAN ALL

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YOU WHAT HAPPENED IN INDIANA LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE -- THEY ADOPTED

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MIX, BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT WILLING TO GO TO THE PROCESS WHICH WAS

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ONCE UPON A TIME, ON THIS VERY CHANNEL, I DID GET ATTENTION IN TRYING TO ENGAGE THE WORLD IN PURSUIT OF A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, MAKING THE MISTAKE OF NOT....

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COUNTY,

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RIGHT ABOUT THE POOR QUALITY PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OFFERED BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THAT IS NOT TO SAY ALL PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS BAD. THE FOLKS...

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INDIVIDUAL TEACHER. IF WE DON'T TRUST OUR TEACHERS AND TREAT THEM LIKE PROFESSIONALS AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE

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THE DEBATE ON HEALTH CARE CONTINUES IN THE SENATE. DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS WRAPPING UP A MEETING WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA. MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID IS NOW...