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00:00:34
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
HIGH-RANKING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FREQUENTLY ARE NOT ABLE TO PROPERLY FULFILL THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS BOARD MEMBERS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S...
00:03:15
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OUT OF RATHER THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE CLINICAL DECISIONS MADE BY CLINICIANS BY EXPERTS IN THE FIELD AND I SUGGEST WE ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENT....
00:03:48
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
WORK SITUATIONS BY THE NATURE OF THEIR
00:03:51
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FULL-TIME WORK MY HOPE IS THIS WOULD BE THEIR
00:03:56
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
00:03:57
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
FULL-TIME WORK AND THEREFORE I RAISE THE QUESTION WOULD THEY HAVE THE
00:04:01
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
TIME TO DEVOTE TO WHAT
00:04:03
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
IS INCREDIBLY
00:04:05
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
COMPLEX? >> I HOPE I EXPRESS THAT. IF I AM WRONG IN INTERPRETING YOUR QUESTION I THINK THAT YOU ARE RAISING THE SAME QUESTION I RAISED WHETHER OR NOT...
00:04:28
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE ORGANIZATION A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. ICAHN TOLD YOU TO INSTANCE IS I'VE BEEN APPOINTED BY LEADERS MAY BE ALL TOO NOT NAME...
00:05:12
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AFTER 8:00. THERE WILL BE NO VOTES AFTER 6:30. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> NO, NO, NO, BUT I DO INTEND VOTES BEGINNING 8:00. WE CAN DEBATE 6:30 UNTIL WHENEVER...
00:05:40
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TO CONSIDERATION THE SENATE PROGRAM THEY
00:05:44
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HAVE? >> HAS MY UNDERSTAND THAT STARTS AT 6:30. I AM GOING TO RECESS SEVEN TO EIGHT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> SENATOR STABENOW? >> I HAVE AN AMENDMENT
00:05:59
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
I WOULD HOPE WOULD BE ACCEPTED. IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S PASSED THE SENATE COMMITTEE BEFORE.
00:06:07
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IT IS D19 TO THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK. THE AMENDMENT IS THE SAME AS THE PATIENT SAFETY ABUSE PREVENTION ACT PASSED BY THE SENATE
00:06:16
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
LAST
00:06:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CONGRESS. IT REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF
00:06:19
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
HHS -- >> SENATOR, IS IT ON THIS LIST DO YOU KNOW? >> IT SHOULD BE. >> WE HAVE A DIFFERENT LIST. OKAY. IT'S ON THE SECOND LIST AND ITS D19, NURSING...
00:06:41
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ME TO BRING IT FORWARD WHICH I AM
00:06:44
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
HAPPY TO DO AS
00:06:46
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
A STRONG SUPPORTER BUT IT REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF HHS TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY PROCEDURES TO CONDUCT BACKGROUND CHECKS
00:06:59
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
FOR FOLKS AND, PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN NURSING HOMES AND OTHER PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE DIRECT CARE TO PATIENTS. WE HAVE HAD A PILOT PROJECT...
00:08:32
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OFFSET BY WIRING NATIONAL COLLECT. >> I'M GLAD TO ACCEPT
00:08:40
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
IT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER DEBATE ON THIS AMENDMENT? >>
00:08:44
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THANK YOU. >> IF NOT, WITHOUT OBJECTION THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU
00:08:50
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
HAVE A NEW UPDATED LIST OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET COPIES. >> THAT WOULD BE A
00:09:00
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
GOOD IDEA. WE HAVE SOME
00:09:02
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HERE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN,
00:09:04
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
WE'VE GOT THIS NEW
00:09:07
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TWO MINUTES BEFORE -- >>
00:09:10
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
MR. CHAIRMAN? >> ONE PERSON CAN TALK AT THE TIME. RIGHT NOW SENATOR ROCKEFELLER -- >> I FINISHED. I GOT THIS TWO MINUTES BEFORE -- >>
00:09:20
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WELL, YOU GOT IT ABOUT TWO MINUTES AFTER I GOT IT SO WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT. WE ARE DISTRIBUTING
00:09:26
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
THE SECOND LIST. THIS IS THE SECOND ROUND OF REFORM, THE TITLE OF
00:09:30
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
THE LIST BEING DISTRIBUTED.
00:09:33
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AT THE BOTTOM IT
00:09:36
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
SAYS 4:45 P.M.. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE
00:09:41
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CHAIRMAN. >> GO AHEAD. >> IN REGARDS TO THE HENRY CLAY PORTRAIT. >> YES. >> SOME OF US HAVE A PROBLEM BEING HERE UNTIL 6:30 BECAUSE OF COMMITMENTS --...
00:10:00
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT. >> AS
00:10:03
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
I SAID, THERE WILL BE NO VOTES
00:10:05
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
AFTER
00:10:07
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
6:30 COME NOTES UNTIL
00:10:11
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
8:00. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE WILL TRY TO WORK AROUND DEBATE IF IT GETS
00:10:19
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CLOSE TO SIX THANKS 30 WE WILL WORK
00:10:21
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
ON THE SOLUTION. OTHER
00:10:24
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENTS? WE HAVE DONE A NUMBER ONE, THAT'S BEEN AGREED TO. SENATOR HATCH IS IN HERE. SENATOR LINCOLN ISN'T PRESENT. SENATOR ROBERTS NOT HERE. BINGAMAN?...
00:11:10
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
IN ENSIGN. WHY DON'T YOU DESCRIBE IT BRIEFLY SO WE CAN LIVE OUT OF ORDER. [LAUGHTER] >>
00:11:24
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MR. CHAIRMAN LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIABILITY REFORM THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. WE KNOW WE HAVE JUMPED LAWSUITS AND SO MANY ASPECTS OF THE LEGAL...
00:11:45
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
CARE SYSTEM. REALLY GREAT TO DOCTORS ARE SEEING ALL THE TIME. PATIENTS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE A TRUE MEDICAL MALPRACTICE PERFORMED ON THEM HAVE YEARS AND...
00:18:32
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM. I BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL ADDRESSES THOSE CONCERNS AND THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD IN THIS COMMITTEE IS BECAUSE THE JUDICIARY...
00:18:50
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
NO PLANS FOR LIFE UNDERSTAND TO HAVE SERIOUS MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM INCLUDED IN THE FINAL PACKAGE. AND SO, IF THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT GOING TO DO IT,...
00:19:51
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AND IT IS TRUE THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT OF JURISDICTION. I THINK THE COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO REPORT SO-CALLED TORT REFORM LEGISLATION...
00:21:19
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TO
00:21:21
Carper, Thomas "Tom" R. - U.S. Senator, [D] Delaware
TRY TO PROVIDE BETTER HEALTH CARE. IN SOME CASES WE FIND IS A WAY TO GENERATE INCOME AND SOME CASES FOLKS DO IT IN ORDER TO REDUCE EXPOSURE TO LITIGATION...
00:23:35
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
WE OUGHT TO PROTECT UNLESS THERE IS GROSS NEGLIGENCE IF SOMEBODY COME ANY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER WHETHER IT IS A NURSE, PHYSICAL THERAPIST, DR., WHATEVER,...
00:24:22
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
00:24:23
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
ARE AMENDED AGAIN ARE HOOKED ON TO MEDICAID. THE PROBLEM IS MEDICAID SHOULD NOT BE CONDITIONED ON WHETHER A STATE HAS PASSED A SPECIFIC TOWARD REFORM...
00:26:56
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IS OKAY. >> I AM JUST TRYING TO GET AMENDMENTS OFFERED NOW AGAIN. OKAY. SENATOR BINGAMAN, I MEAN RUSH, ARE YOU
00:27:05
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READY? >> MR.
00:27:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CHAIRMAN, I AM STILL ADVISED MY STAFF IS TRYING TO
00:27:09
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
GET OFFSET AGREED TO WITH THE COMMITTEE STAFF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
00:27:18
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SENATOR GRASSLEY IS IN HERE, SENATOR KYL, SENATOR STABENOW, WE DID YOURS. OKAY. SENATOR ROBERTS IS NOT HERE. SENATOR
00:27:26
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
CORNYN, NOT HERE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> YES, SENATOR SCHUMER. >> ON MY AMENDMENT ON THE BODY OF GENERICS AND EXCHANGE ABILITY WE ARE CLOSE TO AN AGREEMENT,...
00:27:49
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
ANY TIME. I THOUGHT
00:27:51
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WE WERE -- SURE COME 8:25 IS
00:27:54
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
GREAT. [LAUGHTER] HOW ABOUT 8:24? [LAUGHTER] >> I EASY. I AM OPEN. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE COMING BACK AT 8:30. >> 8:00. >> OKAY. WHEN WE COME BACK. >>...
00:28:08
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CHAIRMAN I AM ADVISED I WILL NOT BE OFFERING
00:28:10
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
THIS AMENDMENT, D4. >> YOU WILL NOT BE OFFERING -- >> WE BELIEVE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN
00:28:19
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ANOTHER AMENDMENT -- >> WE WILL STRIKE
00:28:21
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
THAT WENT FROM THE LIST. >> MOHAMED NASHEED I AM WORKING ON WITH SENATOR
00:28:24
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
LINCOLN,
00:28:25
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
IT WILL BE SENATOR LINCOLN THROUGH CUBING IN AN
00:28:28
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
AMENDMENT WHICH WILL BE OFFERED LATER. >> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
00:28:34
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENTS? WE HAVE
00:28:36
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
GOT SOME TIME. >> LET'S BREAK UNTIL
00:28:41
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NEXT
00:28:43
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
TUESDA >> IF NOT NOW, THEN 8:00. THEN WE WILL MOVE TO AS
00:28:50
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MANY AMENDMENTS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AT 8:00 AND KEEP PILING THROUGH. JUST KEEP MOVING, KEEP GOING. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP THE LINCOLN
00:29:02
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
AMENDMENT, IT IS
00:29:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
D-7. >> OKAY. GOOD FOR YOU. [LAUGHTER] YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET IT. [LAUGHTER] >> JUST FOR BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO BRING IT UP, HUH? THIS INVOLVES THE INFUSION...
00:29:19
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
BENEFICIARIES. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT
00:29:21
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert - U.S. Senator, [D] Arkansas
EXAMPLE OF A SOLUTION TO THE CURRENT PROBLEMS WE FACE IN OUR HEALTH CARE DELIVERY SYSTEM.
00:29:26
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
INFUSION THERAPY INVOLVES ADMINISTRATION OF MEDICATION DIRECTLY INTO
00:29:31
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert - U.S. Senator, [D] Arkansas
THE BLOODSTREAM INVOLVING A NEED OR CATHETER AND RIGHT NOW MEDICARE PAYS FOR THE COST OF AND FUSION DRUGS HOWEVER THE EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES AND PROFESSIONAL...
00:32:23
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IT ISN'T FAIR, DOES NOT ALLOW HOME INFUSION BENEFITS AND LIKELY WILL TO FIND A SOLUTION. >> I WILL WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT WITH THE IDEA WE CAN WORK TOGETHER...
00:32:54
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert - U.S. Senator, [D] Arkansas
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS COST-EFFECTIVE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AGAIN MANY OF THESE ENTITIES HAVE BEEN COVERING HOLLEN FUSION FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS...
00:34:45
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENT? [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] I'M TOLD YOU HAVE TO ON THE LIST, DID YOU WANT TO OFFER? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, EXCUSE ME, WOULD YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE...
00:35:18
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
00:35:29
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
GRASSLEY SO WE HAVE THAT READY AND AVAILABLE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM READY WHENEVER YOU ARE. >> THANK YOU, SENATOR. SENATOR CORNYN IS RECOGNIZED. >> THANK...
00:36:04
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
D13. THIS IS -- I ASK THAT ITS MODIFIED VERSION BE DISTRIBUTED WITH 20 UNDERSTAND IT HAS
00:36:13
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
AT THIS TIME. >> HE SAID ITS MODIFIED? >>
00:36:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
YES. >> [INAUDIBLE
00:36:20
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
CONVERSATIONS] >> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND IT IS A VERY SIMPLE MODIFICATION; IS THAT CORRECT? D-13. I DON'T HAVE THE MODIFICATION. THERE IT IS. NOW I HAVE...
00:36:35
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
YOU. >>
00:36:39
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
MR. CHAIRMAN THE MODIFICATION MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS
00:36:42
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NOT PRE-EMPTED
00:36:43
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
STATE TORT LAW. >> OKAY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, AS MANY OF US HAVE DISCUSSED IN QUOTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WE TALKED ABOUT REFORMING OUR HEALTH...
00:36:59
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
KNOW THAT THE PRACTICE OF DEFENSIVE MEDICINE ADS BY SOME ESTIMATES UP TO
00:37:05
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
9% TO OUR HEALTH CARE BILL
00:37:08
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
AS A COUNTRY AND AT THE SAME TIME WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING AN OPEN DOOR AT THE COURTHOUSE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LEGITIMATELY VICTIMIZED...
00:41:14
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THIS LIMITATION. SO I ASSUME
00:41:19
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
THE END FIRST OF THAT IS IF YOU DON'T ENACTED THIS LIMITATION YOU NO LONGER GET MEDICAID. IS THAT WHAT THE SENATOR INTENDS? >> MAYBE I SHOULD REPHRASE...
00:41:50
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
OF ADOPTING DRIVING AGE AT 21 -- >> WE WITHHOLD HIGHWAY FUNDS BUT HERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE STATE'S ABILITY TO OBTAIN FEDERAL MEDICAID FUNDS WOULD...
00:42:20
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
ARE FREE TO ADOPT A CAP LOWER THAN THAT IF THEY WISH. >> I DIDN'T READ IT THAT WAY. IS THIS ANY STATE THAT RECEIVES FUNDING UNDER MEDICAID SHALL ENACT...
00:42:36
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
ON TOTAL ECONOMIC, NOT ECONOMIC DAMAGES AGAINST ALL DOCTORS AND HEALTH CARE FACILITIES OF $1 MILLION LESS SO WE ARE TELLING
00:42:44
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
EACH STATE HAS TO ACT A LAW OF THIS TIGHT AND IF THEY DON'T THEN THEY NO LONGER RECEIVE MEDICAID. IS THAT THE GIST OF THE AMENDMENT? >> MY EXPECTATION...
00:43:16
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
FOR MEDICAID IS PRETTY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEW MEXICO, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY TO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE YOU DO
00:43:25
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
WHAT SENATOR CORNYN SAYS OR YOU GET NO MEDICAID MONEY. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT
00:43:30
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
VOTE FOR
00:43:31
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
ME TO EXPLAIN BACK AND MEXICO. >> IF I COULD RESPOND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T PRESUME THAT SENATOR BINGAMAN'S CONSTITUENTS WOULD DO ANYTHING BECAUSE OF WHAT...
00:43:55
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
MANAGE WHAT ARE FREQUENTLY RUN AWAY MEDICAL MALPRACTICE LIABILITY COSTS AND I THINK BRING A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE TO WHAT IS THE PRACTICE OF DEFENSIVE...
00:44:45
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HIS AMENDMENTS AND I THINK HAVING THIS, THESE ACTIONS CONTINGENT ON MEDICAID IS TOO HEAVY A PRICE TO PAY. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. THE PENALTY IS DISPROPORTIONATE...
00:46:18
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
PRE-EMPTING. WE COULD DO THAT AND REMOVE THE MEDICAID TO LOOK AND SAY AN POS A MATTER OF FEDERAL LAW WHICH OF COURSE PREEMPT STATE LAW THAT THE CAP...
00:47:11
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WISH TO MAKE MORE STATEMENTS AND PERSUADE US WHEN WE COME BACK TO TAKE A CERTAIN ACTION THAT IS CERTAINLY PERMISSIBLE BUT WE CANNOT DO BUSINESS. YOU...
00:47:46
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
BUSINESS I SUGGEST WE EAT SUPPER. [LAUGHTER] IS THERE A MOTION TO
00:47:57
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
EAT SUPPER? [LAUGHTER] OKAY. THE COMMITTEE STANDS IN RECESS UNTIL 8:00.
00:48:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMOL CONVERSATIONS [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] .. CONCHATA , [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] STEPHEN 90-MINUTE DINNER BREAK IT IN...
00:51:56
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON FINANCE COMMITTEE'S WEB SITE FOUR EGLISE 72 HOURS. I REALIZE THAT THIS IS A VERY BIG CHANGE FOR THE COMMITTEE SINCE WE NORMALLY...
00:58:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE IT. THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CONFUSION
00:58:11
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
AROUND THESE VARIOUS BILLS. I GUESS WHAT I WOULD JUST OFFER IS WE KNOW THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS NOT THE FINAL BILL GOING TO THE FLOOR. IT IS GOING...
00:59:45
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
HIS INAUGURAL SPEECH WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPARENCY AND GOVERNMENT. HE SAID TRANSPARENCY
00:59:51
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
00:59:52
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
GRIETZ ACCOUNTABILITY WITH AND BUILD PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND I THINK THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP PUTTING THE AMENDMENTS THAT...
01:01:56
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
BE HONEST ABOUT
01:01:57
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
THAT. LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE AS EVERYBODY KNOWS IS RELATIVELY ARCANE AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T READ THE LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE. IT IS NOT OF WHAT HIS GREATEST...
01:04:40
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
NOT OTHERWISE ASSUME BUT WHEN IT COMES
01:04:42
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TO
01:04:43
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ASKING US TO SIGN PETITIONS WHEN YOU READ A BILL BEFORE PROMISE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO READ THE BILL BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT, OR COMING...
01:09:03
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
TO CONTINUALLY CHANGE AND AMEND PROVISIONS
01:09:05
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OF THE IRS CODE WITH TABLES AND SO ON AND EASIER FOR US TO DISCUSS THOSE
01:09:09
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
KINDS OF THINGS IN CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE BUT THIS IS NOT BAD EXCEPT FOR A FEW PROVISIONS. THIS IS A MAJOR SUBSTANTIVE BILL THAT CHANGES, SOME PEOPLE HAVE...
01:15:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ACTION ON OUR BILL, WE HAVE TO WASTE ANOTHER TWO TO THREE WEEKS BEFORE WE CAN VOTE ON IT AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT IS REQUIRING LANGUAGE AND...
01:19:14
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
AMENDMENT IS WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO TO THREE WEEKS
01:19:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AFTER WE COMPLETE EVERYTHING BEFORE WE CAN VOTE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS ACCESSIBLE AND FRANKLY I WOULD URGE THE SENATOR WITH TO WITHDRAW HIS AMENDMENT...
01:20:39
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
HIM THE SAME AS YOU DID YESTERDAY. >> THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID. >> WE ALSO UNDERSTAND IF ALL THIS OPENNESS IS SO APPARENT, WHY IS CONGRESS APPROVAL...
01:21:04
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEM TO BE
01:21:06
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
OPEN, COMPLETELY OPEN AND PUT THINGS, EVERY OTHER COMMITTEE THAT I WORK ON, BANKING, ENERGY, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE ALWAYS HAS LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE AND...
01:22:47
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
SIX DISCUSSIONS, WE THOROUGHLY ANALYZED AND REVIEWED EVERY ASPECT AND FACET OF THE COMPONENTS OF THIS DOCUMENT THAT IS BEFORE US, BUT WHAT WAS OUR...
01:28:00
Carper, Thomas "Tom" R. - U.S. Senator, [D] Delaware
END OF THIS WE? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> AS EACH OF US OFFER AMENDMENTS TO THE MODIFIED MARK IF OUR AMENDMENTS-- WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFSET FOR...
01:28:23
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ALL CBO ESTIMATES
01:28:24
Carper, Thomas "Tom" R. - U.S. Senator, [D] Delaware
FOR THE MODIFIED MARK WILL ESSENTIALLY HAVE AN AMENDMENT BY A AMENDMENT BASIS WILL KNOW WHAT THE AMENDMENT COST OR IF IT GENERATES MONEY AND SO WE...
01:28:59
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IS THIS CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE DEAL IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE? I HAVE ONLY BEEN ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS AND NONE OF THE COMMITTEES...
01:29:11
Carper, Thomas "Tom" R. - U.S. Senator, [D] Delaware
USED CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE. IFRS I THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE AND THEN I TRY TO READ THE REAL LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE WHICH IS IT REMINDS ME I SAID TO MY FRIEND...
01:33:29
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
REDUCE THE DEFICIT, WILL REDUCE LONG-TERM COSTS IN HEALTH CARE FROM WHAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE. AND I HAVE SAID IN A CLOSED-END OPEN MEETINGS IF WE...
01:36:07
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TALK ABOUT CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE. THAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORY OF THIS COMMITTEE FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. WHAT IS CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE? IT IS PLAIN ENGLISH....
01:36:20
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
ABOUT. PLAIN ENGLISH. I AM NOT A
01:36:23
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
LAWYER. THE
01:36:24
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
KEY REASON THIS COMMITTEE BITES ITS BILLS IN PLAIN ENGLISH IS SO THAT MEMBERS CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND IT IS...
01:39:48
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
BE IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND. WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE. >> IT IS MUSIC TO THE EARS OF WE LAWYERS. >> ANYWAY, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK....
01:40:25
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
ISSUES. CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE,
01:40:29
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NO WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. IT JUST HELPS THE SPIRIT OF TRUST. WE SEE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE THINK WE UNDERSTAND. IT IS AN...
01:44:59
Roberts, Pat - U.S. Senator, [R] Kansas
CERTAINLY NOT THE ISSUE OF THE CHAIRMAN OR THE RANKING MEMBER OR ANY MEMBER
01:45:04
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
01:45:05
Roberts, Pat - U.S. Senator, [R] Kansas
HERE AND LIKE TOM, I AM A NEW MEMBER FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS AND YOU HAVE HAD TO PUT UP WITH MY RENT OVER OPTIONS OF TAX AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND I AM...
01:48:46
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
RIGHT. AND IT IS AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN. AS I SAID YESTERDAY PERSONALLY AS WELL AS FINANCIALLY. LEGISLATIVE SPECIFICATIONS MATTER...
01:51:46
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
OFFICE TO GET IT DONE HE SAID VERY CLEARLY YESTERDAY HE WAS VERY PRECISE AS HE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG IN THIS PROCESS. WE SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID OF IT. WE...
01:53:29
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MUCH. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST STAFF ON BOTH SIDES
01:53:32
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
WHO HAVE EVER SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. OUR STAFFS UNDERSTAND THE LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE AND MANY OF US EVEN DO. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS...
01:56:15
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THE MODIFICATION OF SINCE YOU HAVE GOT A COMPLETE COST ANALYSIS LISTED THEY'RE THE FINAL BUDGET
01:56:24
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert - U.S. Senator, [D] Arkansas
COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS BETTER HOW THE CBO SCORING BUT CBO HAS BEEN ON BELIEVABLY DILIGENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATIONS AND WORKING THROUGH THIS...
01:58:42
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
IS FINE BUT THE DEVILS ARE IN THE DETAIL
01:58:45
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
WHEN YOU WRITE THE LANGUAGE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SORT. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE -- >> THE FINAL COST ANALYSIS HAS TO COME FROM THE FINAL LANGUAGE....
01:59:17
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert - U.S. Senator, [D] Arkansas
MR. TREEN? >>
01:59:19
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN KNOWS THAT AS I DO BECAUSE
01:59:23
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert - U.S. Senator, [D] Arkansas
I. >> THIS IS ALMOST A CLASSIC CASE AS I LISTEN TO THIS OF TALKING PAST EACH OTHER. I HAVE SERVED
01:59:30
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
ON THIS COMMITTEE I THINK 17 YEARS AND CONCEPTUAL LINK WHICH IS LANGUAGE THAT IS
01:59:38
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
IN
01:59:39
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
PLAN ENGLISH. THAT IS THEN SCORED ON A PRELIMINARY BASIS BY THE
01:59:45
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE AND THE CHAIRMAN HAS MADE CLEAR THAT HE WOULD INSIST ON THAT SCORING BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE GO TO. WE WOULD...
02:02:21
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
PASSAGE AMERICA'S FUTURE ACT TO THOSE IN LINE WITH CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE AND COMPLETE COST ANALYSIS BY THE CBO BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE...
02:03:03
Unidentified Speaker, -
HERE TODAY IN A
02:03:05
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NUMBER OF REASONS HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD FOR OPPOSITION TO THE BOMBING AMENDMENT INCLUDING THE AMENDMENT BREAKS WITH THE PRESIDENT OF
02:03:18
Crapo, Michael "Mike" - U.S. Senator, [R] Idaho
THE COMMITTEE, UTILIZATION WOULD ADD TO THE CONFUSION OR THAT LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGES TOO COMPLEX AND WE NEED TO BE DEALING AND MORE SIMPLE LANGUAGE THAT...
02:07:15
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
DOES THINGS. WE SHOULDN'T JUST DO THINGS ONE WAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE DONE THINGS THE LAST 20 YEARS. WE SHOULD ASK IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO...
02:10:57
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
AND I THOUGHT I WOULD BE THERE AND BE A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE AND OTHER SENATORS PERHAPS CONGRESSMEN. I GOT THERE AND I WAS THE ONLY ONE AND I SAID MR....
02:15:19
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,
02:15:22
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SEPTEMBER 16TH, HE
02:15:23
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
SAID IMPORTANT CAVEAT REGARDING THIS PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS THE PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS PROVIDED IN THIS LETTER AND ITS ATTACHMENTS...
02:20:07
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
OF THIS COMMITTEE IS TO USE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN PLAIN ENGLISH TO GET A SCORE FROM THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE SO WE DO KNOW THE COST AND THEN OF...
02:22:57
Roberts, Pat - U.S. Senator, [R] Kansas
THEM DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE INVOLVED AND PAST THAT OR WHEN
02:23:02
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
CMS
02:23:04
Roberts, Pat - U.S. Senator, [R] Kansas
IMPLEMENTED FACT AND WHEN THEY IMPLEMENTED IT ALL SORTS OF THORNS AND HEALTH CARE PEOPLE SAID WE CAN'T LIVE WITH THIS. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT US OUT OF...
02:26:39
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
AND THEN ALL OF THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY IS ASKING IS 72 HOURS TO DETERMINE THE COST. SENATOR SNOWE HAS SPOKEN ELOQUENTLY ABOUT SUNSHINE AND THE...
02:26:48
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AND THE FACT AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT
02:26:53
Roberts, Pat - U.S. Senator, [R] Kansas
THIS 90%, 95%. THE THING I AM TRYING TO POINT OUT IS WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE 72 HOURS FOR THE PEOPLE THE PROVIDERS HAVE HIRED TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE...
02:27:45
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
A CERTAIN EXTENT TALKING PAST EACH OTHER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DISAGREES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE EXPERTS,
02:27:54
Crapo, Michael "Mike" - U.S. Senator, [R] Idaho
THOSE THAT READ AND STUDY THE LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE AND GO THROUGH AND SAY WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THIS PARAGRAPH AND ABOUT PARAGRAPH. WE NEED TO PUT...
02:29:29
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
PLAIN ENGLISH SO MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE CAN UNDERSTAND. >> LET'S VOTE. >> THAT WAS THE DATE FROM EARLIER TODAY. WE ARE GOING LIVE WHERE THE SENATE...
02:29:58
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HEALTH CARE
02:29:59
Unidentified Speaker, -
OPTION SETTING UP A GOVERNMENT-RUN INSURANCE POOL WHERE PEOPLE WITHOUT INSURANCE CAN APPLY IT. WE SEE A FEW MEMBERS IN THE ROOM INCLUDING THEIR ON THE...
02:36:09
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DO. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MY GOOD FRIEND FROM TEXAS FOR THE CONSIDERATION AS WELL. SIMILAR AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM, ...
02:36:30
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
AROUND EARLIER, I WILL SUMMARIZE VERY BRIEFLY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES IN THIS AMENDMENT AS MY PREVIOUS AMENDMENT THAT WAS RULED NOT GERMANE...
02:37:12
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HERE. >> I DON'T EITHER. >> IF SOMEBODY HAS A COPY I COULD GET, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> SENATOR, D YOU HAVE MORE COPIES OF THE
02:37:23
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
AMENDMENT? >> SHE HAS
02:37:25
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
GOT
02:37:27
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
IT. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] >>
02:37:32
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
WHILE THEY ARE PASSING OUT I WILL EXPLAIN THE
02:37:34
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENT
02:37:36
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
VERY BRIEFLY. IT MODELS MEDICAL LIABILITY TO REFORM AFTER THE TEXAS LAW, AND I
02:37:40
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THIS EVENING I TALKED ABOUT HOW TEXAS HAS HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM WALL. IT'S GOTTEN RID OF LOT
02:37:51
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
OF THE LAWSUITS IN TEXAS. IT'S FREE UP
02:37:53
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
THE COURT SYSTEMS, AND IT'S ALSO HELD STATE CONSTITUTIONAL. THEY HAVE ATTRACTED A LOT OF DOCTORS IN TEXAS, MEDICAL LIABILITY INSURANCE RATES HAVE GONE...
02:43:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OTHER MATTERS TIED TO
02:43:10
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
MEDICAID ISN'T PRECISELY THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE. BUT AS I LOOK AT YOUR AMENDMENT, STILL TAKEN AS
02:43:16
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
A WHOLE, THE GRAVITY OF YOUR AMENDMENT IS NOT IN THE COMMITTEE'S JURISDICTION AND I FEEL CONSTRAINED THEREFORE -- >> MR. CHAIRMAN BEFORE YOU ROLL -- SEABECK...
02:43:50
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
SEEN THOSE. LIONEL LEEDY SING MY DECISION UPON WHAT I SEE. ON THE AMENDMENT I SEE. LOOKING AT
02:43:57
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
THIS AMENDMENT, THE TENTH AMENDMENT IS CLEARLY TOWARD REFORM. WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION SO I REACH MY CONCLUSION. SENATOR BINGAMAN SOUGHT RECOGNITION....
02:44:10
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SOMETHING HERE. MAYBE I COULD ASK MR. BARR -- BARTHOLD, THE OFFSET THAT YOU IDENTIFIED, SENATOR ENSIGN, YOU SAY THAT THE FMAP INCREASE WOULD REDUCE...
02:44:29
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
TAX CREDITS IN THE BILL BY THE AMOUNT NECESSARY. I MUST BE CONFUSED, BUT I THOUGHT IF YOU REDUCE THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL THRESHOLD FOR TAX CREDITS...
02:45:10
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE PHASING 300% OF POVERTY LEVEL OR 400% HE WOULD CARVE IT BACK SO IT WAS PHASED OUT BY 250 OR 275
02:45:18
Unidentified Speaker, -
OR WHATEVER THE NECESSARY AMOUNT, SO BY PHASING IT OUT SOONER THERE WOULD BE FEWER PEOPLE WHO WOULD QUALIFY FOR AT LEAST A PARTIAL SUBSIDY AND THAT...
02:45:56
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WILL CALL THE ROLL. [ROLL CALL] [ROLL CALL] [ROLL CALL] MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FINAL TALLY IS SIX AYES. >> NOT HAVING VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE THE MOTION...
02:47:21
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MUST LIMIT TOTAL NONECONOMIC DAMAGES IN MEDICAL MALPRACTICE CASE FROM $1 BILLION OR LESS. MANDATING SUCH A NATIONWIDE CAP ON NONECONOMIC DAMAGES WOULD...
02:47:32
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
COSTS AND IMPROVE PATIENT ACCESS TO MEDICINE BY DISCOURAGING THE PRACTICE 40 INCENTIVIZING THE PRACTICE OF DEFENSIVE MEDICINE. MAJORITY OF STATES INCLUDING...
02:53:21
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
MEDICAID. IS THIS BILL THE UNDERLYING PREMISE IN THIS BILL, THAT'S FOR MEDICAID LOSS WE ARE MAKING STATES CHANGE THEIR LAWS, THEIR COVERAGE LAWS. ARE...
02:54:10
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TO CHANGE LAWS ON A LOT OF THINGS ON COVERAGE, ON CERTAIN MINIMUM PLANS. ALL THOSE COVERAGE THINGS ARE STATE LAWS. >> THAT IS TRUE BUT THE MAIN POINT
02:54:20
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
IS, THE MAIN POINT IS THAT THE THRUST OF
02:54:26
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
YOUR AMENDMENT IS
02:54:29
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE. THAT IS THE TOTALITY. >> HOW DO WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER CHANGING STATE LAWS ON COVERAGE? OUTSIDE OF MEDICARE
02:54:39
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OR MEDICAID? OUTSIDE OF MEDICAID? >> THERE ARE CONDITIONS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EXCHANGE. SETTING UP AN EXCHANGE. >> THESE WOULD BE CONDITIONS TO PARTICIPATE--...
02:54:53
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
ESSENTIALLY TAX CREDITS. TAXES ARE ON THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE. >> MEDICAID IS THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE. WE GAVE THE VOTE. >>...
02:55:04
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AM JUST, LOOKING AT A TOTALLY HONESTLY
02:55:10
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
AS UPHOLD AND WITH-- >> MR. CHAIRMAN
02:55:13
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ASK A QUESTION? >> CERTAINLY. >> UNDERSTAND ROLLING OF THE CHAIR BUT I AM FEELING A
02:55:18
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
LITTLE BIT LIKE LUCY AND THE FOOTBALL HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRESIDENT
02:55:22
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SAYING THIS ISSUE UP BEFORE THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION AND ITS JOINT SESSION SPEECH TO CONGRESS. IF THIS IS COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH CARE REFORM AND...
02:55:33
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
DOES COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION OF
02:55:35
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IT,
02:55:36
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
WHY CAN'T THIS BILL ORDERLIES THAT PORTION OF THE BILL BE SERIALLY REFERRED TO THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO REPORT OUT OF THAT PROVISION OF ITS THE LEAKING...
02:56:08
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] WE. >> DOES THIS SENATOR WISH TO VOTE TO OVERRULE? WE HAVE DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. >> I WOULD ASK FOR A VOTE ON
02:56:22
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
OBERLING. >> OKAY. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [ROLL
02:56:35
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
02:56:41
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
02:56:43
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CALL] EARL MR. CHAIRMAN THE FINAL TALLYISTIC PSYCHOS, SIX DAYS. >> THE RULING OF THE CHAIR IS SUSTAINED. I NOW RECOGNIZE THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK...
02:57:48
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DEALS WITH THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER WHAT IT BE A PROPITIOUS TIME FOR ME TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THIS UP NOW? I THINK IT CAN SAVE TIME. >> WHY CAN WE JUST...
02:58:18
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DISAGREE BUT WE ALL ON THE SIDE APPRECIATE THE BASIS FOR YOUR ROLE. I THINK THE POINT YOU MADE
02:58:24
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
ABOUT ACTION ON THE SENATE FLOOR IS A WORTHY POINT. THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS NOTED THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS AND MY PURPOSE FOR BRINGING...
02:59:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WE DO THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST IDEAS. IT IS AN IDEAL THAT COMBINES THE REFORMS THAT TEXAS HAS DONE AND THE REFORMS THE STATE OF ARIZONA
02:59:27
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
HAS DONE. I WON'T REPEAT WHAT
02:59:29
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SENATOR
02:59:30
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
CORNYN HAS SAID ALTHOUGH I HAVE SOME STATISTICS FOR EXAMPLE THE TEXAS MEDICAL BOARD SAYS THAT MORE THAN 10,000 DOCTORS SAID THE THE RETURN TO THE STATE...
03:00:08
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MADE I BELIEVE IN THE YEAR 2006
03:00:10
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
BUT THE ESSENCE OF WHAT ARIZONAN DID IN 2006 IS TO MAKE TWO CHANGES THAT DO NOT AFFECT THE DAMAGES AT ALL BUT RATHER JUST THE PROCEDURE THAT YOU FOLLOW...
03:01:28
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
YOU DESCRIBE, AND PEOPLE BACK, TELL ME THEY THINK IT HAS BEEN QUITE EFFECTIVE IN WEEDING OUT FRIVOLOUS SUITS THAT DO NOT HAVE MERIT. AND THE SENATOR...
03:02:25
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
TO BE LICENSED AND SOME STATE, HAS TO HAVE SPECIFIC SPECIALTY EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA OF THE ALLEGED MALPRACTICE. YOU CAN'T HAVE A PEDIATRICIAN TESTIFYING...
03:05:18
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OF THIS COMMITTEE APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT IN WHICH THIS IS DONE AND THE DEGREE TO DO THEIR VERY BEST TO ENSURE THAT VOTES THE MEDICAL MALPRACTICE AMENDMENTS...
03:05:30
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
BE PERMITTED IF AND WHEN A BILL GETS TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE. AND THAT MEMBERS OF YOUR SIGHT OF THE AISLE WILL SUPPORT HAVING VOTES ON SOME OF THE...
03:06:04
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CALL] AUTH. [ROLL CALL] [ROLL CALL] THE THE CLERK WILL TALLY THE VOTES. >> MR. CHAIRMAN THE FINAL TALLY IS SEVEN AYES, TEN NAYS. >> TWO-THIRDS OF THE...
03:07:07
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO ASK, I'D BEEN ADVISED THAT SENATOR CARPER, DO YOU
03:07:11
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HAVE AN AMENDMENT? OKAY. SENATOR CARPER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. THAT IS RIGHT. I DON'T SEE IT ON THE LIST HERE EITHER. >> MEDICAID, D3 ARE ON THE FIRST...
03:07:45
Carper, Thomas "Tom" R. - U.S. Senator, [D] Delaware
LIST. >> MR.
03:07:52
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CHAIRMAN? I CHAIR THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND THIS IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE TOM COBURN AND I HAVE TAKEN TURNS CHAIRING...
03:08:14
Carper, Thomas "Tom" R. - U.S. Senator, [D] Delaware
ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT TO OMB THEIR IMPROPER PAYMENTS. THIS HAS BEEN A REQUIREMENT SINCE THE EARLY PART OF THIS DECADE. AS IT TURNS OUT SOME AGENCIES...
03:14:03
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
UNDERWAY AT THE TIME
03:14:05
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
AND IT REALLY IS SHOCKING WHAT THEY WERE FINDING. AND, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT THAT WAS NOTHING MORE THAN THE SECOND HALF, THE OFFSET, THE EXPANSION...
03:16:01
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS. WHAT IS IN THE BILL? >> THE CHARM-- THE CHAIRMAN'S BILL PERTAINS THE WHOLE SERIES OF PROVISIONS. TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE THE FIRST...
03:16:27
Unidentified Speaker, -
DOCTORS, HOSPITALS, AMBULANCE PROVIDERS, ANYONE WHO CAN INCUR BILLING FOR LEAP PROGRAM SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB OF CHECKING...
03:16:59
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FROM A NEW PROVIDER APPLICATION FEE THAT WOULD BE CHARGED TO PROVIDERS TO JOIN MEDICARE OR MEDICAID. I BELIEVE THAT IS ABOUT $2 BILLION
03:17:08
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF NEW REVENUE, AND THEN THE SAVINGS THAT CBO SCORES IN MARKETS ACHIEVING THE PREVENTION AND ELIMINATION OF FRAUD COMPARED TO WHAT THEY ASSUME IT'S IN...
03:18:53
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
LONG AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. AS THE SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA HAS FOUND OUT WE HAVE FOUND ADDITIONAL SAVINGS HERE AND I THINK BEEFING UP THE SO-CALLED...
03:19:57
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
TO EXPAND COVERAGE TO COVER ALL POPULATIONS OF TO 133% OF FEDERAL POVERTY BY THE YEAR 2014. IT IS A VERY LAUDABLE GOAL BUT PROVIDING COVERAGE IN MEDICAID...
03:20:13
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
03:20:16
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
GET THE CARE THAT THE COVERAGE WOULD ALLOW THEM. MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT RATES AND PROVIDE YOUR PARTICIPATION RATES ARE VERY, VERY LOW COMPARED TO THE...
03:25:03
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THE SUBSIDIES FOR FAMILIES, FOR INDIVIDUALS AND THE EXCHANGE? >> YEAH, FROM WHATEVER IT
03:25:12
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
IS DOWN TO 300. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I WOULD HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I AM VERY SYMPATHETIC IN MICHIGAN-- WE HAVE EXTREMELY LOW MEDICAID...
03:25:32
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
CHALLENGING ECONOMY. THE STATUS HAD TO CUT MEDICAID
03:25:35
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
SO I CERTAINLY BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF RAISING THEIR RATES FOR PROVIDERS. WE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING DOCTORS THAT WILL SERVE PEOPLE BUT AT THE...
03:26:35
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
HEALTH CARE FOR KIDS THAT WE HAVE PROMISED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND HAVE NOT DELIVERED ON THAT PROMISE. >> SENATOR MENENDEZ. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I...
03:27:05
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE. NOW, THE
03:27:08
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
PREMIUM CREDITS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE CREATING A MANDATE HERE, THE PREMIUM CREDITS ARE IMPORTANT TO ENSURING THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE COVERAGE...
03:28:50
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
PARTICULAR SECTION AND WE UNDERSTAND
03:28:55
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WHAT HE IS SAYING, BUT
03:28:57
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT WE CREATED A MEDICATIVE NCHIP PAYMENT AND ACCESS COMMISSION LAST YEAR, WHICH OR MAYBE THIS YEAR-- WHICH LOOKS AT THE WHOLE...
03:30:50
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OF THIS AMENDMENT, AND I AM ADVISED ACTUALLY, CHILDREN, CHIPS CHILDREN DO BETTER IN MEDICAID THEN TO OTHER POPULATIONS IN MEDICAID. THEIR BENEFITS...
03:31:52
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IN THOSE FAMILIES WOULD BE GETTING FEWER TAX CREDITS WHILE THE SHIFTIER TO I GUESS TO MEDICATE KIDS I GUESS PRIMARILY AND I THINK DISCRETION AS THE...
03:33:25
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
BE BLOWING LIKE THE HOLLING TORNADO BUT JUST TO SAY THE WIND IS BLOWING IS SORT OF WHAT I FEEL THIS AMENDMENT IS LIKE AND I CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING I...
03:34:07
Unidentified Speaker, -
MEDICAID NCHIP POLICIES-- >> COULD I CALL THE RIM TO ORDER? THERE ARE A LOT OF SIDE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON HERE AND I JUST THINK WE DO BETTER IF WE FOCUS...
03:34:31
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DONE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. IT WAS SET UP TO REVIEW ALL OF THE POLICIES THAT EXIST AT THE STATE LEVELS AND WITHIN THE FEDERAL LAW FOR...
03:34:55
Unidentified Speaker, -
LOOSELY OFF OF MEDPAC AND I SAY LOOSELY BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SET PAYMENT LEVELS SO MEDPAC IS A PAYMENT ADVISORY COMMISSION SO THAT...
03:37:02
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
COMING IN SOMETIMES-- YOU HAVE LESS THAN 30 SECONDS TO LOOK AT THEM OR IT BEST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THEM AND I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING WHICH...
03:38:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THERE MIGHT BE, THERE ARE SOME PRETTY OLD KIDS BUT MAYBE THERE IS A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW. SENATOR HATCH. >> LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION....
03:38:50
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
YOUR QUESTION COULD MACPAC SAID MEDICAID
03:38:57
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FORADIL? MALPAC IS AN ADVISORY COMMISSION AND
03:38:59
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
DOES NOT HAVE A GREAT SETTING UP GORDIE. >> ISN'T THE ARGUMENT THE SAME? THEY COULD ADVISE. >> I THANK PART OF THE CONCERN
03:39:08
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS CAPSET BECAUSE STATES VERY SO TREMENDOUSLY AND THE OLD SAYING A FEW OF SEEN ONE MEDICAID PROGRAM YOU HAVE SEEN ONE MEDICAID PROGRAM. THAT INCLUDES...
03:39:23
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
PRESSURES TO PAY ONE PROVIDER GROUP X AND ANOTHER
03:39:27
Unidentified Speaker, -
WiMAX SO I THINK TAKING AVERAGES CAN SOMETIMES BE DECEIVING WHETHER THEY ARE HIGH OR LOW, BUT TO GET BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION MACPAC'S AUTHORITY...
03:40:11
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO IT RIGHT. SENATOR SNOWE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION, DOES THE COMMISSION MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONGRESS REGARDING...
03:40:36
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
GOVERNMENT'S PROVIDENCE AND SOME IN THE STATE SO ITS AUTHORITY GOES TO BOTH. >> IT RECUSAL OF THE PROVIDER PAYMENTS? >>
03:40:45
Unidentified Speaker, -
YES, AND OTHER POLICIES YES PROVIDER PAYMENTS. >> THANK YOU. >> FIRST OF ALL I DON'T THINK SENATOR MENENDEZ AND I GIVE SHORT SHRIFT TO WHAT HE SAYS...
03:41:03
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
BUT IN TERMS OF NATIONALLY 50% OF THE FAMILIES AND
03:41:07
Unidentified Speaker, -
WORKERS ARE ABOVE THREE AND A PERCENT OF POVERTY AND THAT IS WHERE I HAVE TO
03:41:11
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
SHOOT FOR SOMETHING. THEN MODICUM TO THE COMMENTS THAT HE MADE IN
03:41:17
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
SENATOR ROCKEFELLER MADE I WOULD ONLY SAY THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IN THE GROUP OF SIX WE HEARD SENATOR RAMSEY ALWAYS BRING UP, WE CAN DO THESE...
03:42:25
Unidentified Speaker, -
ON THIS QUESTION. THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF THIS
03:42:28
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
03:42:29
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
AMENDMENT IS THAT IT PITS PROVIDERS FOR CHILDREN AGAINST MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES AND THAT IS JUST NOT A CHOICE THAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE MAKING BECAUSE...
03:43:16
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
GOT TO DO IT ON THE FRONT
03:43:17
Enzi, Michael "Mike" B. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
END TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE CAN SEE A DOCTOR SO I APPRECIATE THE SENATORS AMENDMENT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> SENATOR CONRAD. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I REMEMBER...
03:43:47
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
GOT
03:43:49
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
THE RIGHT PAY FOR. I INCREASINGLY WONDER IF SOMETHING THAT'S SENATOR CANTWELL HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MORE FULLY REVIEWED IN LIGHT...
03:46:10
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
RAISE PROVIDER RATES THEY ARE CERTAINLY FREE TO DO SO AND THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE MATCH, THE FEDERAL MATCH WHEN THEY DO SO, SO THIS 40% FAGER SENATOR...
03:47:14
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
FLEXIBILITY AND ONE OF THE REASONS I AND OTHERS RUN VAULT IN THE STATE WAIVER PROVISION. I THINK THIS IS ONE WAY TO DIRECTLY EXPAND COVERAGE AS THE SENATOR...
03:47:55
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IN ADDITION TO ONE THING YOU SAID PREVIOUSLY IN RECOGNIZING SENATOR WIDE, YOU HAVE GUTS REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS ACCURATE...
03:48:07
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
STELMA $33 BILLION ADDITIONAL MANDATE AS A RESULT OF THIS LEGISLATION WITH WHAT WE ARE
03:48:11
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DOING WITH ADULTS SO THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION YOU LOVE GOT TO
03:48:15
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
TAKE INTO, BUT IF YOU THINK-- IF YOU THINK THIS CAN BE WORKED OUT WE WILL PUT OUR STUFF ON IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN WORK OUT BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I WANT...
03:48:54
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AND HOW STRONG AND CLOSE. >> I WOULD HOPE CENTER CONRAD WOULD THINK IN TERMS OF HOW MANY KIDS IN HIS STATE WOULD BENEFIT FROM AN AMENDMENT LIKE THIS AND
03:49:02
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE DOING 340% OF POVERTY ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE BILL THE WAY
03:49:09
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
IT IS WRITTEN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> THE AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN. >> ONE QUICK COMMENT
03:49:17
Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Iowa
FOR COINCIDENTLY THAT 40% FIGURE COMES FROM MEDPAC 2002 SO I SUSPECT IT IS A LOT WORSE NOW. >> IT COULD BE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I CALL UP MY AMENDMENT...
03:49:32
Rockefeller, John "Jay" D. IV - U.S. Senator, [D] West Virginia
THE AFFORDABLE
03:49:35
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
REIMBURSEMENT EQUITY
03:49:38
Enzi, Michael "Mike" B. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
ACT, AND LET ME JUST EXPLAIN IT BRIEFLY. WE HAVE BROAD AGREEMENT ON THIS AMENDMENT AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES AND STAFF TO HELP TO WORK...
03:49:50
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ON
03:49:51
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
THE ISSUE, SUPPORTING THIS FARCE SENATORS ENZI, STABENOW, HATCH, MENENDEZ, CARPER AND KERRY. THE BOTTOM LINE IS BIOLOGICS ARE LIFESAVING DRUGS. THEY...
03:50:37
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
YOU. >> IN HIS AMENDMENT D1. ..
03:50:44
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
03:50:55
Bunning, Jim - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
03:51:01
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
WHEREVER OUR VIEWS ARE ON BIOLOGICS AND GENERICS THIS AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY JUST ABOUT EVERYONE BECAUSE IT SAVES MONEY AT NO COST TO THE GOVERNMENT...
03:52:21
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ACCEPT IT. THE AMENDMENT BEFORE IS OFFERED BY SENATOR. THOSE OPPOSED SAY AYE. THE AYES HAVE IT IF THE
03:52:34
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
AMENDMENT IS PASSED. THE NEXT AMENDMENT ON THE LIST IS SENATOR KYL -- >> GO
03:52:43
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AHEAD. I HAD ONE RELATED TO COVERAGE. >> IF YOU ARE RIGHT -- READY, LET'S GO. >> THIS IS THE AMENDMENT C-7 IN THE
03:53:03
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
NOTEBOOKS. THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD AMENDMENT. IT MAKES IT RELATIVELY MODEST CHANGE AND CHAIRMAN'S MARK TO MAKE SURE WORKING AMERICANS HAVE ACCESS...
03:53:14
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CREDITS. AND THE MARKET AS IT WAS MODIFIED BY SENATOR
03:53:21
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
SNOWE URGED EMPLOYEES WHO RECEIVE AN OFFER OF AN PLAYER SPONSORED INSURANCE WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO COME TO THE EXCHANGE TO RECEIVE A HEALTH INSURANCE TAX...
03:54:23
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THAT'S FINE. BUT AT THIS POINT, GO AHEAD WITH SENATOR BINGAMAN. LET'S GO,
03:54:32
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SENATOR. >> OKAY. IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES THE EMPLOYEES REQUIRED TO SEEK AN AFFORDABILITY WEAVER FROM THE STATE EXCHANGE AND IN THE SAME AND WE HE IS...
03:54:54
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
TO THE ECKERT ECKERT RECEIVED AFTER DE CAPO. I AM CONCERNED THERE REQUIRING AN EMPLOYEE TO SUBMIT A WAIVER DIRECTLY TO HIS OR HER EMPLOYER MAY DETOUR...
03:55:56
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
STATE EXCHANGE AND THEN PRESENT THAT WEAVER TO THE AND WE'RE AND THE EMPLOYER THAT HAS TO REIMBURSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE COST OF THE TAX
03:56:06
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
CREDITS RECEIVED BY THE EMPLOYEES UP TO A CERTAIN CAP. THIS CHANGE WOULD SAY THAT THE EMPLOYEE INSTEAD OF SUBMITTING THE WAIVER DIRECTLY TO THE EMPLOYER...
03:56:44
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AND SEEKING THIS
03:56:45
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
AFFORDABILITY EXCEPTION WHICH I THINK WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE. >>
03:56:52
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DO YOU SEE ANY
03:56:53
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
TECHNICAL PROBLEMS WITH THIS? ON THE FACE OF IT I THINK IT IS A PRETTY GOOD IDEA. >> WE WERE WAITING TO HEAR FROM CBO AND THE ASHURA IS AN INEQUITABLE...
03:57:13
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
PRESENTED BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS KIND OF THE SITUATION IS OF THAT THE
03:57:22
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOUNGER, HEALTHIER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO CASH OUT OF
03:57:28
Enzi, Michael "Mike" B. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
THIS WHICH IS GOING TO DRIVE UP THEIR AFFORDABILITY DRAMATICALLY AND WOULD BE THE CAUSE OF IT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE THERE IS READJUSTMENT...
03:58:12
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HAS DROPPED OUT OF THE PROGRAM AND SOUGHT THIS
03:58:17
Enzi, Michael "Mike" B. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
WEEK FOR AND OBTAINED THIS THAT THE EMPLOYEE WOULD NOT HAVE THE RESPONSE OF THE THE OF PRESENTING
03:58:24
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THIS WEAVER TO THE EMPLOYER. THE EXCHANGE WOULD SEND IT TO THE EMPLOYER IS THE ONLY CHANGE MY AMENDMENT
03:58:30
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
WOULD ACCOMPLISH. THE PROBLEM YOU IDENTIFY EXISTS TODAY AND STILL WOULD EVEN AFTER THIS AMENDMENT. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ACQUIRE...
03:59:01
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
UNDER
03:59:03
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
THE WAIVER BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IMPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL COST ON THE EMPLOYER. >> I DON'T THINK THIS WHAT -- THE WAY AS WE UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE BILL...
03:59:32
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
MADE THAT DECISION. >> BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE COST -- I UNDERSTAND THAT ON THE EXEMPTION BUT ALSO THE FACT THE INDIVIDUAL HAVING TO PRESENT,...
03:59:55
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
THE EXCHANGE PROVIDES THE WAIVER INSTEAD OF THE EMPLOYEE HAVING TO PROVIDE THE WEAVER. >> IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT WE WILL VOTE ON THE...
04:00:14
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
IS PASSED. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> WE ARE TRYING TO GO BACK AND FORTH HERE. SENATOR HATCH
04:00:23
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE FIRST OF THE LIST. COULD YOU IDENTIFY, PLEASE? >> AMENDMENT D3 TO AMERICA'S HEALTHY FUTURE ACT. LET ME JUST
04:00:38
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
TAKE A
04:00:39
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MINUTE TO EXPECT THE HATCH-KYL AND BAD. THIS WOULD REPLACE THE MEDICARE DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE REDUCTIONS CONTAINED IN THIS BILL WITH GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY...
04:00:51
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
TO CONGRESS LEVELS IN EACH STATE INCLUDING THE BUP PROJECTED IMPACT OF THE COVERAGE PROVISIONS INCLUDED IN THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK AT THE END OF THE FISCAL...
04:01:44
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AM TOLD -- MINES IS MODIFIED AT THE TOP. >> AND WE HAVE THE SAME AMENDMENT. IS THAT THE SAME? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. AS THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
04:01:54
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
KNOW THE MEDICAID PAYMENTS ARE NECESSARY TO
04:01:57
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OFFSET COST WHEN PROVIDING CARE TO LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS. THE RATIONALE OF THE POLICY CONTAINED IN THE CHAIRMAN'S
04:02:08
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
MARK SEEMS TO BE IF THE EXPECTED COVERAGE EXPANSIONS IN THE BILL COME TO FRUITION THEY
04:02:12
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
BECOME REDUNDANT EXPENDITURES. BY UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF THE GERMAN MARK ONCE IT IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED IT WILL PROVIDE COVERAGE TO INDIVIDUALS CURRENTLY...
04:06:26
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
ARE DISTRIBUTED
04:06:27
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THROUGH A PERCENTAGE INCREASE TO A HOSPITAL'S PROSPECTIVE
04:06:31
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
PAYMENT RATE. IN TWO PAULSON SEVEN, MAD PACT SENT A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE. AND
04:06:38
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
THEIR MESSAGE WAS DISH PAYMENTS ARE VERY POORLY TARGETED TO HOSPITALS SHARE OF UNCOMPENSATED CARE. IN THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK, HE IS SEEKING TO REDUCE NEGATIVE...
04:08:35
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
BEGIN WITH. >> CAN I ASK TO GIVE US A SENSE OF RECORD IN PROVISIONS IN THE MARKET THAT THIS FIRST OF ALL THESE REDUCTIONS DON'T START UNTIL THE YEAR...
04:09:03
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
INCORRECTLY CUT THE DISH PAYMENTS. AS I UNDERSTAND FOR THE HOSPITALS GENERALLY AGREE TO THE GERMAN'S MARK THAT IS INCLUDING THESE REDUCTIONS TAKE EFFECT...
04:09:59
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS WE HOPE AND PROJECT REDUCTION WILL THERE BE COMMENSURATE REDUCTION IN BUSBEE EIGHT PAYMENTS. THERE MAY BE A WAY TO MARRY YOUR AMENDMENT WITH OUR...
04:11:04
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
AMENDMENT THAT WAS FILED? BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT THAT
04:11:11
Unidentified Speaker, -
FEINGOLD, PACKAGE D3 STRIKES THE WORKS OF MEDICARE DISH PAYMENTS. NOW YOU'RE SAYING THIS HAS A GAO
04:11:20
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
STUDY? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> NO, NO, THE CHAIRMAN ASKED IF YOU MODIFIED. YOU SAID IT WASN'T MODIFIED, IT WAS YOUR -- >> IS MODIFIED. >> WHETHER IT IS MODIFIED...
04:11:40
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
REPLACE THOSE. AS THE MEXICO THAN IT IS EXACTLY AS I
04:11:46
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
DESCRIBED IT. ALL I AM GOING BY IS THE AMENDMENT THAT
04:11:50
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
YOU FILED. IT
04:11:51
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SAYS VERY CLEARLY THE AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE THE PROVISIONS THAT MODIFIED THE KIDCARE DISH PAYMENTS. YOU RESPOND TO THE CHAIR AND YOU DIDN'T MODIFY.
04:12:01
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
THAT IS THE AMENDMENT THAT IS FILED HERE. >> THIS IS THE AMENDMENT, THAT'S RIGHT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S CORRECT BUT WE HAVE ALSO SAID THAT A GAO STUDY...
04:12:27
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
SENATOR BAUCUS
04:12:29
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
SAID THE HOSPITALS GENERALLY AGREE. THE PROBLEM IS THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL THE HOSPITALS, AND AFTER THIS AGREEMENT WAS ANNOUNCED...
04:16:34
Unidentified Speaker, -
MEDICARE
04:16:36
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
DISH DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF PROVISIONS RELATED TO MEDICARE TO PAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT
04:16:41
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
REIMBURSE
04:16:43
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
A
04:16:45
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
04:16:49
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
HOSPITAL UNDER MEDICARE DISH UNLESS THEY ARE A MEDICARE BENEFICIARY; AM I RIGHT? THE MEDICARE -- THE DISH REIMBURSEMENT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RELATE...
04:17:37
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
CARE UNDER MTALA. FOR A PERIOD WITH FOR YEARS WE HAD A MODEST COMPENSATION FOR THEIR EMERGENCY ROOM TREATMENT AT LEAST TO THE POINT THAT THEY WERE STABILIZED....
04:18:12
Bingaman, Jeff - U.S. Senator, [D] New Mexico
CAN REDUCE DISH. I AM SAYING THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY TRUE IN SOME STATES. >> LET ME -- SOMETIMES THE FACTS HELP. LET ME ASK THE STAFF TO SHED SOME
04:18:23
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
LIGHT ON THIS. >> LET'S ASK THE COUNCIL HOW DISH PAYMENTS ARE MADE. >> COULD YOU -- >> BOTH SENATOR BINGAMAN AND SENATOR, ARE RIGHT THIS IS VERY MUCH...
04:18:40
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THE CHAIRMAN'S MARKS RECOGNIZING UNCOMPENSATED CARE CASELOAD AND THIS IS A PRIORITY OF PARTICULARLY THE
04:18:46
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
PUBLIC AND SAFETY NET HOSPITALS YOU SPEAK
04:18:49
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OF, SENATOR KYL, WE SUGGEST ON HOSPITALS COST REPORTS
04:18:52
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE SHOULD BEGIN MORE ROBUSTLY REPORTING ON AN INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL BASIS WITH THEIR UNCOMPENSATED CARE LOADS ARE. THAT MEANS ANY TYPE OF PATIENT. AND...
04:20:10
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN
04:20:11
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
DISH AND MEDICAID BECAUSE AS MEDICAID HAS GONE DOWN BECAUSE THE STATES HAVE CUT MEDICAID DRASTICALLY DISH FILLED IN FOR THAT AND I SAY THAT ONLY AT THIS...
04:21:03
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
A HOSPITAL TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, INCREASE PRODUCTIVITY AND IT IS AN INCENTIVE THAT HELPS FIND SOLUTIONS HERE. MEANTIME WE ARE DOING THESE STUDIES GETTING...
04:22:35
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
MODIFIED IT WITH THIS AMENDMENT. THIS WOULD STRIKE THE PROVISIONS ON PAGE 149 MAKING CHANGES TO THE MEDICARE PAYMENTS AND WOULD REPLACE IT WITH THE...
04:23:24
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CRS HAS PUBLISHED STATE LEVEL ON
04:23:27
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
INSURED ESTIMATES USING THUS PPS. WE PROBABLY WILL RELY ON ACS. PROBABLY THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS THAT IT IS A MULE BACK TO SURVEY. SOME PEOPLE JUST CHECK...
04:24:22
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
STRIKING ALL DISH PAYMENTS. >> IT IS -- >> NO, IT
04:24:27
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ISN'T. STARTING NO LATER THAN 2:15 CONTINUING ON
04:24:30
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
AN ANNUAL BASIS THIS VICTORY
04:24:32
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WOULD MAKE PAYMENTS EQUAL TO 25% OF
04:24:36
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
THE DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE PAYMENT REPRESENTS THE EMPIRICAL
04:24:45
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
JOSEPH -- MARCH 2007
04:24:47
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
REPORT TO CONGRESS. THE JUSTIFIED FUNDING AMOUNT IS CONTINUE TO REIMBURSE HOSPITALS FOR ADDITIONAL COST OF LOW-INCOME BENEFICIARIES. IT GOES ON. BASICALLY...
04:25:47
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TO DO SO -- MODIFY YOUR AMENDMENT PUT TO DELETE A PROVISION DELETING SAVINGS CUTS. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CUT $23 BILLION OUT. BUT MODIFIED -- WE WORK...
04:26:34
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
THE
04:26:35
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HOSPICE. >>
04:26:38
Hatch, Orrin - U.S. Senator, [R] Utah
D
04:26:39
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
16. >> [INAUDIBLE
04:26:52
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
04:27:11
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CONVERSATIONS] I'M SORRY, WHICH AMENDMENT? >> DE 16. >> NOT THAT IT MATTERS BUT WHICH LIST IS THAT ON? IT'S ANOTHER ONE. >> IT'S ON THE THIRD LIST >>...
04:27:48
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THIRD LIST. THEY MODIFIED. OKAY.
04:27:55
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
SENATOR? >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COLLEAGUES, DOLLAR
04:27:57
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FOR DOLLAR, THERE IS NO BETTER INVESTMENT IN AMERICAN HEALTH CARE THAN
04:28:04
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
HOSPICE. THEY ARE CONSTANTLY DEVELOPING
04:28:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NEW TECHNIQUES FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT AND I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THEY ARE A LIFELINE FOR THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN FAMILIES. IN
04:28:16
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
THE REMARK HE WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL CUTS IN THIS PROGRAM THAT NOW OPERATES ON AN EXCEPTIONALLY LOW MARGIN. INCLUDING INDEPENDENT...
04:30:09
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TALK FURTHER -- >> ARE THERE OTHER AMENDMENTS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION? SENTER STABENOW? >> I THINK THIS IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AMENDMENT...
04:30:26
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
BUDGET NEUTRAL ACCORDING TO THE CBO. >> I'M SORRY. >> EXCUSE ME,
04:30:36
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
C2. >> STABENOW C2? >> YES. THANK YOU. IT IS CLEAR FLEISS THE APPLICATION OF MENTAL HEALTH
04:30:43
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
CARE REQUIREMENTS BY PLANS OFFERED IN THE EXCHANGE. IT
04:30:49
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
BASICALLY CLARIFY SOME OF MENTAL HEALTH ACT APPLIES TO PLANS OFFERED IN THE
04:30:56
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
EXCHANGE AND WOULD INSURE
04:30:58
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS RECEIVE HEALTH CARE ON PAR WITH OTHER MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE COVERED...
04:32:33
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
THAT? >> AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS IS BUDGET NATURAL. >> THAT'S
04:32:41
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
CORRECT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DOES IT HAVE ALL THE OTHER FEATURES EXEMPTING COMPANIES UNDER 50 AND
04:32:49
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
ALL OF THAT IN OTHER WORDS IS IT THE SAME AS WHAT IS IN TITLE I ALREADY? THE STUFF EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS
04:32:56
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NECESSARY SINCE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALREADY COVERED AND WHETHER IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE SPECIFIED AND TITLE
04:33:03
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
I? >> CURRENTLY THE MENTAL HEALTH
04:33:05
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
PARODY ACT DOESN'T APPLY TO GROUPS SMALLER THAN 50. SO WE HAD NOT CLARIFIED IN THE MARK THAT THE CATEGORIES OF BENEFITS WOULD APPLY MENTAL HEALTH PARODY....
04:33:24
Unidentified Speaker, -
ADD EXTRA COSTS AND WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE BUDGET NEUTRAL. >> I THINK SENATOR KYL THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS ARE INCLUDED AS YOU...
04:33:56
Unidentified Speaker, -
COVERS TRADITIONAL RED SERGE AND MENTAL HEALTH THEY HAVE TO BE COVERED ON PAR AND IT IS THE ON PAR PART OF THINK SENATOR STABENOW WOULD ESTABLISH FOR...
04:34:34
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
ARE MAINTAINED WITH AN ACTUARIAL VALUE THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU ARE PROVIDING A 65% ACTUARIAL VALUE PLAN AND COVER OF...
04:34:48
Unidentified Speaker, -
BENEFIT CATEGORIES THE INSURER HAS THE FLEXIBILITY TO ARRANGE COST SHARING WITH AND ALL THOSE BENEFITS TO STAY WITHIN THE ACTUARIAL VALUE WITHOUT ADDING...
04:35:22
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN THE STAFF SAID SOMETHING EARLIER THAT I HAD PROCESSED. IF -- DOES THE MENTAL HEALTH CARE BE APPLIED TO THE INDIVIDUAL MARKET TODAY...
04:35:48
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
MARKET? >> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH. THE ACT APPLIES TO THE INDIVIDUAL MARKET TODAY. >> IS THE EFFECT OF THIS AMENDMENT TO DO THAT?...
04:36:12
Unidentified Speaker, -
INDIVIDUAL MARKETPLACE WHERE SOMEONE
04:36:17
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
IS APPROACHING A COMPANY ON THEIR OWN OR CREATING A NEW GROUP MARKET ESSENTIALLY
04:36:22
Unidentified Speaker, -
PULLING
04:36:26
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
PEOPLE, CORRECT IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF WHAT WAS DONE ON THE INDIVIDUAL MARKET FORCES NOW BECAUSE WE ARE CREATING A DIFFERENT POOL; IS THAT CORRECT? >>...
04:36:57
Unidentified Speaker, -
VALUE LEVELS SO WE WILL NOT -- IT WILL NOT RAISE THE COST OF THE PLANS. >> COULD I ASK A QUESTION? BLOOD THIS THEN -- LET'S TAKE THE PLAN FOR INSTANCE....
04:37:20
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
TYPES OF TREATMENT COULD WE PRETTY MUCH BECOME SO PRESCRIPTIVE AS SOME OF THE THINGS MAY BE THE PERSON WANTED IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET. >> THE BENEFIT...
04:37:57
Unidentified Speaker, -
42 OF THOSE BUT MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE WANTED A POLICY THAT COVERED THE PARTICULAR ITEM THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE...
04:38:10
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
THERE IS NO PRE-EXISTING CONDITION THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT AND WANTED IT COVERED. IS THAT SOMETHING THEY COULD MEDIA MISS OUT ON? >> TO THE EXTENT...
04:38:40
Unidentified Speaker, -
IF WE START GOING DOWN THE LINE OF REQUIRING ALL OF THESE VARIOUS THINGS THAT SOME STATES REQUIRE COULD WE BE GETTING INTO THAT TYPE OF A SITUATION...
04:38:58
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
NOT FIT JUST WITH THIS. IF WE START GOING DOWN THIS LINE BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO ONE PARTICULAR ITEM PEOPLE WANT TO -- WE ARE GOING TO BE LOBBIED ON INCLUDING...
04:39:33
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
PLANS. ALREADY IN THE PLANS THERE IS MENTAL HEALTH COVERAGE. THIS IS SIMPLY A CLARIFYING AMENDMENT. IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE -- >> THERE IS STILL A
04:39:44
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL MARKETS. >> BUT
04:39:46
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
WHAT WE ARE IN THE BILL RIGHT NOW THE BASIC PLAN INCLUDES MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL AS PHYSICAL HEALTH BECAUSE ONE OF THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT DOING THIS...
04:40:04
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
A PHYSICAL PROBLEM WE HAVE A FEDERAL
04:40:07
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY, BIPARTISAN BILL ON MENTAL HEALTH PARITY THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY THAT IT APPLIES TO THIS NEW MARKETPLACE....
04:40:40
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND 20% COPAY FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THAT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE FEDERAL LAW IS PREVIOUS IN TERMS OF NOT DISCRIMINATING ON MENTAL...
04:41:24
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
04:41:25
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
PARITY. I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. YOU RAISE A SEPARATE ISSUE AND THAT IS THE DEGREE TO WHICH ANY ACTION PREEMPT SOME THE STATE MANDATES OR...
04:41:34
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MANDATES. IF THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ACT AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT...
04:42:10
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
DELIVERY SYSTEM AND THEY BASICALLY ARE ALL
04:42:13
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
BY SENATOR CORNYN. SADR? YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT FIRST AND WE WILL TRY TO DO THE OTHERS. ON LESS ON THIS SIDE YOU WANT TO OFFER
04:42:26
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
YOUR AMENDMENTS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I CALLED THE AMENDMENT D-2. >> HAWARDEN D-2. >> THIS IS THE ALONG THE LINES WE DISCUSSED EARLIER MAKING...
04:42:50
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
A PHYSICIAN BECAUSE OF LOW REIMBURSEMENT RATES MORE AND MORE PHYSICIANS AS WE KNOW ARE REFUSING TO SEE
04:42:56
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
NEW MEDICAID PATIENTS OR REFUSING TO SEE
04:42:59
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THEM AT ALL AND MANY
04:43:00
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
MEDICAID PATIENTS ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND DOCTORS. ACCORDING TO THE 2002 MEDPAC REPORT 40% OF PHYSICIANS RESTRICTED ACCESS FOR MEDICAID PATIENTS BECAUSE...
04:47:16
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
NOT EVEN SIGNED UP FOR EXISTING PROGRAMS. IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT BUT ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL AND REVERSING SO THIS WOULD APPLY TO...
04:47:33
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
TO 133%. THOSE EXPANSIONS WOULDN'T BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL AT LEAST 75% OF PHYSICIANS ACCEPT MEDICAID PATIENTS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? >> SENTER CARMICHAEL. >>...
04:48:03
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
YOU WE
04:48:05
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
HAVE GOT
04:48:06
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
UNDER FEDERAL EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFIT PLAN MY WIFE AND I HAVE COVERAGE NOT A SINGLE ONE OF MY WIFE'S DOCTORS WILL TAKE IT IN THIS TOWN. NOT A SINGLE...
04:49:07
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IS MY UNDERSTANDING FOR MEDICARE AND PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE ABOUT 70% OF THE DOCTORS TAKE NEW PATIENT IS UNDER MEDICARE OR UNDER PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE....
04:50:09
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE NOT DONE WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO
04:50:13
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
TO PROVIDE ACCESS. I THINK SENATOR WYDEN AND OTHERS HAVE PROPOSED SOME MEDICAID REFORM WHICH
04:50:20
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WOULD BASICALLY MAKE -- WE
04:50:23
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
HAVE IDEAS ALL THE LINES MAKE MEDICAID BENEFICIARIES ELIGIBLE FOR PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE WHICH WOULD COMPENSATE PHYSICIANS AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AND...
04:51:04
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MR. CHAIRMAN. .. >>
04:51:07
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
04:51:22
Unidentified Speaker, -
ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH MEDICATE I AM TOLD IS THAT THE POOL OF PRIMARY-CARE DOCTORS OR THOSE THAT DEAL WITH MEDICAID PATIENTS ARE INADEQUATE...
04:52:56
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
CHANGE INCENTIVES TO GET MORE DOCTORS INTO PRIMARY CARE. THAT IS THE INTENT TO HAVE 10% BONUSES EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR PRIMARY-CARE...
04:53:37
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MEDICAID? >> WE DO
04:53:41
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN STATES PAY DOCTORS AND KNOW WHO THEY ARE SO IT IS NOT A MYSTERY. WE CAN FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE. BUT I WOULD SUBMIT TO THE MOST OBVIOUS...
04:54:37
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
WALK RIGHT BY THE CONGRESSPERSONS I WILL KEEP WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS ISSUE. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR WE CAN GET A BETTER DEAL FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE THAN...
04:55:16
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
BUT BASICALLY THE EFFECT TO REDUCE, NOT AN INCREASE COVERAGE FOR POOR PEOPLE. SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING NOT INCREASING THE REDUCING HEALTH COVERAGE FOR...
04:56:04
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
COVERED BY MEDICATED THE CERTIFICATION IS NOT
04:56:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
POSSIBLE? >> EXCUSE ME? >> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT REDUCES? U.S SAID IT WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COVERED BY MEDICAID. >> MANDATORY EXPANSION....
04:56:20
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
IT DOES NOT REDUCE. >> I OVERSTATED THE POINT . IT WILL CERTAINLY PREVENT EXPANSION
04:56:28
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OF
04:56:30
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
COVERAGE. >> IF THAT IS A CERTAINTY THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM. >> WE HAVE A PROBLEM. >> YES.
04:56:39
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WE WILL PROMISE WHAT
04:56:41
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
WE CANNOT
04:56:43
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DELIVER WHICH IS THE POINT . >> THAT IS NOT FAIR. >> WE WILL PROMISE THAT PEOPLE HAVE COVERAGE AND ADD MORE PEOPLE TO MEDICAID BUT WE'RE CERTAIN THERE...
04:56:55
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
OF THEM? THAT IS PROMISING SOMETHING THEY WILL NOT
04:56:58
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
GET. LET ME MAKE THE POINT . THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM AND IN MY STATE IN PARTICULAR IT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
04:57:06
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
FRANKLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST VISIBLE A LOT PROBLEMS -- PLACES THERE IS A DUAL STANDARD FOLKS ON MEDICAID DO NOT GET THE SAME QUALITY...
04:59:01
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OUTCOME. IT MAY TAKE US AWHILE TO GET DOWN THAT ROAD BUT I WOULD SAY 7580% OF PROVIDERS IN THIS COUNTRY AGREE THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO. IT...
05:03:47
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT. THE STATES
05:03:49
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
DO. TWO SENATOR KYL,
05:03:54
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY WITH MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT IN
05:03:58
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
YOUR STATE, THE ANSWER IS TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR AND TALK TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS BECAUSE THEY DECIDE. WE DO NOT DECIDE THAT IF THE IMPROVE...
05:04:37
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC OPTION, A GOVERNMENT
05:04:40
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
AUCTION, I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY
05:04:42
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
WE NEED MEDICARE FOR ALL AND ANOTHER GOVERNMENT PLAN TO DELIVER HEALTHCARE BUT THE FACT IS MEDICAID IS BROKEN. WE HAVE THE PROMISE OF COVERAGE BUT...
05:05:50
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
BASIS WITH THE REBATES, HEAD ON THAT BASIS IT IS 0.8% INCREASE THE OBLIGATION ON THE STATES. >> MR. CHAIRMAN I NEED TO START ON FOUR CHALET BY CORRECTING...
05:06:30
Unidentified Speaker, -
ESPECIALLY AT THIS HOUR BUT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS UP SLIGHTLY IT IS UP ONE POINT THREE. IT IS STILL OBVIOUSLY OVER THE FIRST THREE YEARS AND A 10 YEAR...
05:06:47
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
OVER BASELINE SPENDING THAT MEANS
05:06:49
Unidentified Speaker, -
NEVER TEXAS WAS PLANNING TO SPEND ON MEDICAID, WHICH WE SHOW AS 100 2.EIGHT, 102 BILLION ALMOST A $3 BILLION INCREASE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I COULD ...
05:07:33
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
05:07:35
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENT. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
05:07:39
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
A REDUCTION IN STATES DON'T GET THAT, THAT IS WHAT THAT IS ABOUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AMENDMENT. THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. >> ALL OF THOSE...
05:07:53
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CURRENT AMENDMENT? >> OR LIKE TO RESPOND. >> I AM SORRY SENATOR. >> YOU HAVE
05:07:59
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FIVE MINUTES THEN WE ARE VOTING. >> THAT IS FINE. TALKING ABOUT THE UNCOMPETITIVE MESS OF AMERICAN BUSINESS AS A RESULT OF THE HEALTH COSTS, EVERY ECONOMIST...
05:08:12
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SALT WILL TELL YOU IT IS FALSE.
05:08:15
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
THE COMPANY'S
05:08:17
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
PASS HEALTH-CARE COSTS ON TO EMPLOYEES. THIS
05:08:19
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IS NOT A COST OF BUSINESS THAT MAKES THEM LESS
05:08:22
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
COMPETITIVE. SECOND YOU SAID THE DELIVERY SYSTEM WILL BE CHANGED BY THE WAY WE PAY THE PROVIDERS AND WHILE I KNOW THAT IS THE WAY FOLKS LOOK AT IT IT...
05:09:16
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CLINICS THEY WILL TELL YOU THEY ARE IN A
05:09:19
Kyl, Jon - U.S. Senator, [R] Arizona
UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT AND THEIR SITUATION REPRESENTS VERY GOOD CARE BUT THEY DO REPRESENT THE EXCEPTION AND FINALLY, THE ALTERNATIVE IS NOT THE STATUS...
05:10:26
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
05:10:37
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MR. CHAIRMAN IF EVERYBODY IS LISTENING AND RECEPTIVE TO ARGUMENTS MOB GLAD TO MOVE TO THE AMENDMENT D4 IT IS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO PHYSICIANS...
05:11:04
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
2010. 409 BILLION OF CUTS FROM MEDICARE PAYMENTS FAILS TO PERMANENTLY ASSURE THAT SENIORS UNDER THE PROGRAM HAVE A STABLE ACCESS TO A DOCTOR IT PROVIDES...
05:13:24
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IT. >> THAT IS ON MY QUESTION. WHAT IS THE AMENDMENT. >> I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. >> AT 1%? >> ZERO UPDATE. >> IT
05:13:35
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
HOLDS IT
05:13:37
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FLAT. >> IS HALF A PERCENTAGE
05:13:41
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
UPDATE YOURS IS NO
05:13:45
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
UPDATE 2010, 2011. >> IT STOPS AT A 25%. >>
05:13:49
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
SO DOES SARS. >> THE MARK
05:13:51
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
STOPS THE CUT AND
05:13:54
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
REPLACES IT WITH A HALF PERCENT. >> FOR ONE-YEAR. >>
05:13:57
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
YOUR STOPS THE CUT
05:14:00
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AND HOLDS IT FLAT AT TWO YEARS. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> AND OFFSET
05:14:08
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
HAVE? >>
05:14:10
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
05:14:11
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
BY STRIKING GOOD TAX
05:14:16
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
CREDIT BY STRIKING
05:14:20
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
THAT PROVISION? >>
05:14:22
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
STRIKING THE PREMIUM TAX
05:14:28
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CREDITS CEMENT HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? MIMICRY ADDUCING THE REIMBURSEMENT
05:14:34
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AT 50%. >> WE'RE CHECKING WITH THE CBO BUT IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES IN THE THIRD YEAR. >> IT IS ZERO. >> DOES
05:14:47
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
IT REVERT TO CURRENT
05:14:59
Unidentified Speaker, -
LAW? >> IS THERE A CUT OR A DIP IN THE THIRD YEAR? TO MAKE IT SOUNDS
05:15:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
LIKE THERE WILL BE. >>
05:15:09
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT IS A TWO YEAR FIX WHICH I IMAGINE WILL COME BACK IN YEAR NUMBER THREE AND TO WIT OVER AGAIN BE WILL DURING THE BUDGET WINDOW. >> I URGE US TO VOTE...
05:15:23
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
SHOULD NOT CUT THE TAX CREDITS AND EXCHANGE FOR THE SECOND YEAR. I
05:15:29
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
URGE WE DO NOT ADOPT THE AMENDMENT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? AND I THINK AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT SENATOR CORNYN IS MAKING WITH THE
05:15:40
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENT IS THAT WITH THIS PREVIOUS AMENDMENT IS ACCESS TO CARE. WE KNOW EVERY YEAR BECAUSE OF THE LOW REIMBURSEMENT RATES THAT MORE AND MORE
05:15:54
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
HEALTH-CARE PROVIDERS ARE NOT TAKING NEW MEDICARE PATIENTS BUT OPTING OUT. THE SAME THING WITH MEDICAID. AND AND WHILE COST IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IF...
05:17:39
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
PAID FOR DOC FIX WITH A GROUP OF SIX BUT UNTIL THE
05:17:42
Unidentified Speaker, -
VERY END
05:17:43
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
WE HAVE THE TWO-YEAR FIXED RECORD IF YOU THINK OF ALL OF THE OF THINGS COMING DUE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS THAT PUTS EVERYTHING ON THE EQUIVALENT BASIS....
05:19:42
Conrad, Kent - U.S. Senator, [D] North Dakota
AFFORDABILITY THAT IS THE VERY ESSENCE AND THE CHAIRMAN RAISES SOME ONE IT
05:19:49
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
NOT ONLY IN THE FIRST YEAR BUT GIVES THEM SOMETHING EXTRA IF THE ARGUMENT IS UNLESS THE PROVIDER OR THE DOCTOR RECEIVES THE INCENTIVE TO CONTINUE TO...
05:20:41
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
WAS HOPING TO DO AND THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS AND A COMMITMENT TO IN THE LONG RUN ME ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO I AM...
05:22:11
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
AMENDMENT IT IS D5 IT IS A PATIENT'S RIGHT TO INFORMATION ON QUALITY IT WOULD REQUIRE MEDICARE TO RELEASE CLAIM STATUS TO INDEPENDENT ENTITIES TO...
05:22:31
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
FOR PATIENTS ON THE QUALITY OF HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IT WOULD MANDATE THE PROTECTION OF BENEFICIARY PRIVACY THROUGHOUT THE BILL UNDER BOTH THE HIPAA...
05:24:30
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
ANOTHER HAS SAID UNLESS YOU GIVE THE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE THE DECISION IN THIS AREA, HE WILL NOT GET SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ANY TIME SOON. ...
05:25:59
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
IS COMMERCIALIZED AND PRIVATE ENTITIES TAKE ALL OF THE DATA AND REACH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS AND I DO NOT KNOW IF WE ARE GOING FARTHER THAN WE...
05:26:44
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
05:26:46
Snowe, Olympia J. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
BEYOND AND WITH INFORMATION WE CONSIDER THIS IT DOES NOT RESELL THE PRIVACY QUESTION. I WONDER IF THE SENATOR WOULD DO A STUDY ON THE FEASIBILITY UNTIL...
05:27:32
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
BE ANY QUESTION TO ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS. I AM AFRAID IF WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE'RE DOING COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH-CARE REFORM THIS HAS...
05:28:37
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
FYI. >> IT AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN AND WE WILL WORK ON IT. >> I WILL TAKE ONE MORE VERY QUICK BECAUSE I LIKE TO GIVE THE STAFF A
05:28:53
Cornyn, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
BREAK IS IT ONE THAT YOU KNOW, WILL GO LIKE THAT? >>
05:28:59
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
YOU THINK SO? >>
05:29:06
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
WE HAVE ONE WITH SENATOR GRASSLEY. >> WHAT IS YOUR MIND MEANT? >> MR. CHAIRMAN MODIFIED VERSION OF A MODIFIED MARK BUT THERE IS JUST SOME CLARIFICATION...
05:29:25
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ALREADY ACCEPTED IT AND THE MODIFIED MARKET DEALS WITH STANDALONE DENTAL PLANS TO MAKE SURE THEY
05:29:31
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CAN BE PART OF
05:29:33
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
THE EXCHANGE PROVIDE BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT. >> SAID DENTAL PLANS IT WAS IN YOUR MODIFIED MARKET BUT EVIDENTLY WE NEEDED TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS....
05:30:10
Stabenow, Debbie - U.S. Senator, [D] Michigan
JUST GETTING IT PRINTED UP IT WOULD BE
05:30:16
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
ACCEPTABLE ACCEPTABLE, MR. CHAIRMAN IS IT ACCEPTABLE OF I JUST
05:30:22
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
DESCRIBED BRIEFLY? >> I THINK SENATOR GRASSLEY AS LOW? THAT IS CORRECT. >> JUST OFFER IT. [LAUGHTER] >> QUIT WHILE YOU ARE AHEAD. >> OF THOSE IN FAVOR...
05:30:49
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
MORNING. AND TELL 9:30 A.M.. 9:30
05:30:56
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
05:31:00
Wyden, Ronald "Ron" Lee - U.S. Senator, [D] Oregon
A.M.. [INAUDIBLE
05:31:05
Baucus, Max - U.S. Senator, [D] Montana
CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] >> GERMAN BAHT IS WRAPPING UP THE COMMITTEE. HE WILL RESUME TOMORROW 9:30 A.M. EASTERN OUR LIVE COVERAGE WILL...

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