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GUEST, -
LITTLE GEORGE WASHINGTON. HE STILL DOES TODAY. HOST: DIDN'T JIMMY CARTER RUN AS SORT OF A WASHINGTON OUTSIDER, BOUGHT PART OF A LIBERAL OR OTHERWISE...
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| 00:01:00 |
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THAT'S TRUE. ONE WAS A GOVERNOR. SOME WOULD ARGUE THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THAN A SENATOR. NEVERTHELESS, THEY RAN AGAINST AN UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT...
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| 00:01:10 |
GUEST, -
WAR COULD FOR CARTER, IT WAS NIXON AND WATERGATE. FOR OBAMA, IT WAS BUSH AND IRAQ.
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| 00:01:16 |
HOST, -
HOST: THE HEART ANDOF
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| 00:01:20 |
GUEST, -
YOUR BOOK IS JIMMY CARTER'S VIEWS ON THE MIDDLE EAST AND BROADLY ON TERRORISM, IT SPECIFICALLY ON MIDDLE EASTERN RELATIONS COULD YOU DESCRIBE IT AS...
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| 00:01:41 |
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CARTER CAME INTO OFFICE, BECAUSE HE SAW THE SHOT OF IRAN AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN ALPA -- SHAH OF IRAN AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN ALLY, HE TOOK...
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| 00:01:57 |
GUEST, -
TO GO. THEY HAD A TWIN BILL OF DOCTOR AND WHICH RICHARD NIXON DEVELOPED -- TWIN PILLAR DOCTRINE WHICH RICHARD NIXON DEVELOPED WITH A STRONG IRAN WAS...
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| 00:03:07 |
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TO FIGHT A
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| 00:03:12 |
GUEST, -
SIX-WAY -- SIX-DAY WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. ALL THE BATTLES AGAINST COMMUNISM, WE WERE PAYING ISRAEL TO ASSIST US. THEY WERE OUR PROXY. THE NEW COURSE...
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| 00:03:48 |
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I DID NOT BELIEVE THAT, BUT HE SAID HE DID NOT KNOW WHO HE WAS. THE FIRST THING WE FIND OUT IS ALMOST 1000 INDIVIDUALS A
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| 00:04:00 |
GUEST, -
DAY, 1000 INDIVIDUALS A DAY, ARE COMING OUT TO THE CHATEAU WEST OF PARIS. WE ARE FINDING OUT THAT TOURISTS ARE GOING THROUGH THE AIRPORT AND THEY ARE...
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| 00:04:46 |
HOST, -
THE WAS ALREADY A NASCENT MOVEMENT THERE, WAS THERE NOT?
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| 00:04:51 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: MOSQUES, MULLIS, AND MADRASAHS -- MULLAHS, AND
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| 00:04:59 |
HOST, -
MADRASAHS BUT MY CONTACTS ON THE GROUND, AMBASSADORS I TALK TO, SAID IT WAS RUN THROUGH THE MOSQUES. KHOMEINI WAS FIRING THROUGH THE MOSQUES WITH CASSETTE...
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| 00:05:12 |
GUEST, -
LISTEN, THEY WERE SENDING MONEY IN TO HIM, HE WAS GETTING ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY, COVERTLY. HOST: BUT BACK TO THE U.S. INTERESTS, WHY WOULD IT BE...
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| 00:05:41 |
HOST, -
FIGURE -- DID NOT SEE HIM AS ANYTHING BUT A 90-LIKE FIGURE. HE HAD A TEAM OF LEFTISTS WHO THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A CLERIC AND GOOD FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, OR...
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| 00:05:58 |
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MONARCHS WHO NEEDED TO BE OVERTHROWN. HOST: WE WILL GO TO CALLS NOW. GOOD MORNING TO GIVE THE AND IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. CALLER: I THINK CARTER WAS
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| 00:06:24 |
HOST, -
ONE OF THE BEST PRESIDENTS WE HAVE EVER HAD IF WE WOULD HAVE STUCK TO HIS PLAN, -- HE HAD A PLAN UNDER WAY TO GET US OFF DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL....
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| 00:07:21 |
GUEST, -
HAD BEEN. WE ARE FIGHTING THEM BECAUSE OF THAT OPERATION. THE RUSSIANS WERE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE DESTABILIZATION OF IRAN, AND THEY WERE EXTREMELY WORRIED...
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| 00:08:08 |
HOST, -
THAT HAPPENED WITH ENERGY. THE PRICE OF OIL WENT THROUGH THE ROOF. BECAUSE THE DESTABILIZATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST UNDER CARTER'S WATCH. HE WAS OBSESSED...
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| 00:08:20 |
GUEST, -
HE WAS OBSESSED WITH IT, AND THAT WAS PEACE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND EGYPT. I WAS ADVISING MEN OFTEN BEEN AT THE TIME. -- ADVISING MENACHIM BEGIN AT THE TIME...
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| 00:09:10 |
HOST, -
GET OUT OF JIMMY CARTER WAS, I BELIEVE, A KIND MAN. HE DID NOT WANT MORRIS, HE DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT WITH PEOPLE. -- W HE DID -- WARS --
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| 00:09:24 |
GUEST, -
HE DID NOT WANT WARS, HE DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT WITH PEOPLE. HE SAID YOU CANNOT KIDNAP A HOLY MAN. HOST: BACK TO THE U.S. SUPPORTING KHOMEINI, HOW DOES...
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| 00:09:54 |
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GUEST: IN FACT, THE EMBASSY WAS WORKING AT THE DESTABILIZATION OF IRAN. SULLIVAN, THE AMBASSADOR AT THE TIME, WAS WORKING WITH THE CLERICS, OPPOSITION...
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| 00:10:16 |
GUEST, -
THAT THE SHAH WAS NOT GOOD FOR IRAN, AND THE ONLY GUY IN TOWN THAT SEEMED TO HAVE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAN WAS KHOMEINI, SO CARTER HAD A PROGRAM...
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| 00:11:17 |
GUEST, -
YOU ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH YOUR SELECTIVE HISTORY. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUIBBLES ABOUT MR. REAGAN MISLEADING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND CONTINUING WITH...
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| 00:12:24 |
GUEST, -
REAGAN, I WAS WITH THE MARINES IN BEIRUT 1240 OF THEM WERE KILLED BY IRAN, HEZBOLLAH. I FILLED THOSE KIDS THE NIGHT BEFORE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING COME...
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| 00:13:24 |
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FROM EXPANDING INTO AFGHANISTAN AND SO ON BUT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS BEST TO REMOVE THE SHAH FROM POWER AND HAVE AN ISLAMIST THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE AGAINST...
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| 00:14:38 |
GUEST, -
JULY OF THAT YEAR, WARNED CARTER -- IF WE CONTINUE THIS COURSE, THE RUSSIANS ARE GOING TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN. CARTER DID NOT LISTEN TO HIM. IT IS TRUE....
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| 00:15:36 |
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GUEST: YES. LISTEN, THE SAUDIS RIGHT NOW ARE SHOPPING FOR A NUCLEAR REACTOR. THEY KNOW THAT THEIR 400-MILE WALL THAT THEY BUILT BETWEEN IRAQ AND SAUDI...
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| 00:16:11 |
GUEST, -
NUCLEAR ATOMIC COUNTRY THE SHIITES NUMBER ONLY 100 MILLION, MAYBE 120 MILLION, WHERE YOU HAVE 1 BILLION SUNNIS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A TRILLION-DOLLAR...
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| 00:16:58 |
HOST, -
FOR THE PRESIDENT TO NOT GIVE HIM A VISA. AHMADINEJAD IS A FRAUDULENT PRESIDENT THE IRANIAN
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| 00:17:06 |
GUEST, -
PEOPLE -- MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL IN PRISON AND TORTURED OVER HIM. IF WE JUSTIFY THIS FRAUDULENT ELECTION, THIS COULD BE A HUGE SIGN TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE...
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| 00:17:50 |
HOST, -
REELECTED AGAIN. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT, TELL ME WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT? GUEST: I MET WITH CARTER'S PEOPLE AROUND THE END OF HIS PRESIDENCY, AND...
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| 00:18:17 |
GUEST, -
SOME REASON, HE JUST DEVELOPED A REALLY BAD ATTITUDE. BEGIN DID NOT LIKE CARTER. MENACHEM BEGIN WOULD MEET WITH HIM AFTER THE PRESIDENCY. CARTER DEVELOPED...
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| 00:19:04 |
HOST, -
EAST BETWEEN EGYPT AND ISRAEL TO WATCH OVER THOSE TWO COUNTRIES? I THINK ISRAEL AND EGYPT IS A BIG PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. IF CARTER...
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| 00:19:43 |
GUEST, -
SADAT WAS OPPOSED TO THAT AND SO WAS BEGIN AND CARTER BACK DOWN AND CHANGED HIS TUNE AND HE ENDED UP TAKING A LOT OF CREDIT FOR IT. NEVERTHELESS, THE...
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| 00:20:33 |
HOST, -
WILL ARRIVE IN ISRAEL ON MONDAY BUT WILL NOT VISIT THE GAZA STRIP DURING THE TRIP. THE VISIT IS AIMED AT TRYING TO PUSH BARACK OBAMA'S PEACE POLICY...
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| 00:21:20 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: YES. I DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS STILL WITH HIM TO READ IF YOU TAKE THE TERM ELDERS AND YOU GO TO THE JEWS AND SAY TO THE JEWS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE...
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| 00:21:39 |
HOST, -
OF THE ANTI-SEMITISM IS CALLED "THE ELDERS
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| 00:21:42 |
GUEST, -
OF THE PROTOCOLS OF HIS EYE ONZION." IT IS THE NUMBER-ONE SELLING BOOK IN THE MUSLIM WORLD OUTSIDE OF THE CAR ON -- OUT OF THE KORAN. APPROPRIATE SMITH'S,...
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| 00:22:57 |
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FORD IN PRINT, THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS BOOK ABOUT JIMMY CARTER. I REMEMBER HIS PRESIDENCY VERY WELL. AFTER HE TURNED THE COUNTRY INTO CHAOS, AND UNEMPLOYMENT...
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| 00:24:57 |
GUEST, -
IT WAS SO GREAT. --
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| 00:25:00 |
HOST, -
BECAUSE OF MY PERSONAL FAITH, I THOUGHT IT WAS SO GREAT. I WAS
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| 00:25:04 |
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EXCITED ABOUT HIS PRESIDENCY. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND AT THE TIME. I WAS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WITH A GENERAL WHO WAS DYING AND CRYING, AND HE WAS THE GENERAL...
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| 00:26:08 |
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SEMITE. NOW, I AM NOT GOING TO BUILD A CASE FOR HIM BASED UPON BEING A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER, BECAUSE YASIR ARAFAT WAS ALSO, WHO KILLED LEON KLINGHOFFER,
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| 00:26:22 |
GUEST, -
THREW HIM OVER IN A WHEELCHAIR AND WAS THIS POSSIBLE FOR THE MUNICH MASSACRE, AND OVER 1100 TERRORIST ATTACKS. JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE...
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| 00:27:18 |
HOST, -
HE WAS COMING FROM. HE SAID HE HAD A LIST OF CITIES
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| 00:27:21 |
GUEST, -
IN AMERICA WERE FROM THE BIBLE, SUCH AS BETHLEHEM,
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| 00:27:27 |
HOST, -
PENNSYLVANIA. MR. PRESIDENT, WITH THE GOVERNOR OF PENNSYLVANIA SAID THAT EVERYONE COULD LIVE
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| 00:27:32 |
GUEST, -
IN BETHLEHEM EXCEPT THE BLACKS? HE SAID OF COURSE NOT. HE WOULD BE ACCUSED OF RACISM THEN HOW CAN YOU ASK ME TO DO THAT? OURS IS THE ORIGINAL BETHLEHEM....
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| 00:29:02 |
HOST, -
EX-NAVY MAN, AND JIMMY CARTER WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I JOINED THE NAVY IN 1973 HE WAS A WONDERFUL MAN, AND THE THINGS THAT HE FELT ABOUT PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY...
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| 00:30:27 |
HOST, -
CULTURE. THERE IS NOT ANY. ALL THAT WAS CREATED. I DEBATED SOMEONE IN MADRID WHO SAID TO NOT DISTORT MY REALITY. SHE
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| 00:30:39 |
GUEST, -
SAID, "BETHLEHEM AS A MUSLIM VILLAGE WHERE THE FIRST PALESTINIAN WAS BORN, JESUS CHRIST." I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT PREMISE, THE PALESTINIAN PRESS. YOU...
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| 00:31:54 |
HOST, -
OF MOSSAD. AND I MUST TELL YOU THIS STORY AND I WILL TRY TO MAKE IT SHORT. IN SOME TO MORE 23RD, 1980, I HAD
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| 00:32:05 |
GUEST, -
DINNER AND I SAID, "DO YOU THINK TERRORISM WILL COME TO AMERICA?" "IF TERRORISTS HAVE THE WILL BUT NOT THE POWER, THAT COULD CHANGE IN TIME, AND THE FIRST...
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| 00:33:29 |
HOST, -
REGIMES $7.8 BILLION AND RESPECT THE TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY, YOU ARE SENDING A SIGNAL THAT
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| 00:33:33 |
HOST, -
CRIME PAYS WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT MILITARILY AND WE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH
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| 00:33:38 |
GUEST, -
IT QUICK. HE WOULD NOT DO THAT. HOST: MIKE EVANS WITH US UNTIL 10:00 EASTERN, TALKING ABOUT HIS BOOK, "JIMMY CARTER: THE LIBERAL LEFT AND WORLD CHAOS."...
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| 00:34:04 |
HOST, -
CARTER AND SUED HIM OVER THE PANAMA CANAL. THEY WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT. WHEN SHE WALKED TO THE SUPREME COURT, SHE SAID, "I'M A LEGISLATOR, A TEACHER,...
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| 00:34:19 |
GUEST, -
I AM A LAWYER FOR THE SUPREME COURT." THEY WENT AND CHECKED HER DOCUMENTS. SHE IS A LAWYER WHO SUED JIMMY CARTER OVER THE PANAMA CANAL, SAID IT WAS...
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| 00:35:15 |
GUEST, -
ARE HUMAN RIGHTS MOVEMENTS THAT HAVE NOT MATURED. IF WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT A WAR ON TERROR, WE HAVE TO DEFINE IT WITH MORE CLARITY. SOMEBODY HAS TO BE...
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| 00:35:51 |
HOST, -
CARTER IS THERE POSTER BOY. AND TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE
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| 00:35:56 |
GUEST, -
ANTI-ISRAEL, FINALLY TAKING THE POSITION -- FUNDAMENTALLY TAKING THE POSITION THAT "CARTER IS OUR MAN." HABITAT FOR TO MANATEE IS WONDERFUL. ." AND...
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| 00:37:33 |
GUEST, -
KHOMEINI 'S PEOPLE BUT TO GIVE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS TO THE RADICAL ISLAMIC MOVEMENT IN IRAN. WHAT WAS YOUR HAS BEEN THINKING? WHO KNOWS WHERE OR WILL...
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| 00:40:44 |
HOST, -
WAS AIPAC AT THE TIME WE
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| 00:40:49 |
GUEST, -
LITTLE ISRAEL, THE GREAT JEWISH NORTHEAST, IF ALL WENT FOR KENNEDY. LATER ON, YOU FIND OUT, NO WONDER EVERY POLITICIAN ON THE HILL IS SCARED TO DEATH...
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| 00:41:25 |
HOST, -
BECAUSE A
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| 00:41:30 |
GUEST, -
AIPAC IS NOT THAT BIG AN ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS THAT IN -- AS FAR AS ECONOMICS. BUT WHAT THEY DO IS MOBILIZE THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT...
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| 00:42:31 |
HOST, -
IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THEY GIVE IT TO HENRY KISSINGER. I THINK JIMMY CARTER WAS AN HONORABLE
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| 00:42:38 |
HOST, -
MAN. HERE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS. PLEASE DO NOT EVADE THEM AGAIN TO WHAT BRANCH OF THE MILITARY DID YOU EVER SERVED, AND WHAT IS YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION?...
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| 00:43:23 |
GUEST, -
THAT IS THE MILITARY I SERVED IN. POLITICALLY, I AM A REPUBLICAN. HONESTLY, AND EMBARRASSED REPUBLICAN BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE POSITIONS...
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| 00:44:03 |
HOST, -
WASN'T GEORGE BUSH'S REACTION -- DECISION TO GO INTO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN BASED ON THE ATTACKS OF 9/11? GUEST: YOU HAD A GERMAN CHANCELLOR AND THE BRITISH...
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| 00:44:41 |
GUEST, -
SHAH OF IRAN AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN WORKED OUT." "CARTER IS A BASTARD OF CONSCIENCE." I COULD NOT BELIEVE -- HE SAID IT WAS ALREADY DONE. IN FEBRUARY...
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| 00:45:42 |
HOST, -
SECONDLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR NAME -- THAT IS NOT YOUR REAL NAME? IF IT IS NOT, CAN YOU TELL US YOUR REAL NAME? GUEST: MY REAL NAME IS MY NAME, MIKE...
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| 00:46:15 |
GUEST, -
BELIEVE THAT IRAN WAS THE REASON THAT THE PRESIDENT LOST HIS PRESIDENCY. I DO BELIEVE AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HE FOUNDED THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN...
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| 00:47:05 |
HOST, -
PEANUUTS, THE PEANUT FARMER CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE FACT THAT HE WAS KIND OF AN UNKNOWN, AND THIS WAS IN BRZEZINSKI'S BOOK, THAT NELSON ROCKEFELLER MET...
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| 00:48:23 |
GUEST, -
HOUSE AND THE WHITE HOUSE. IT WAS A REAL PROBLEM. I SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR PROBLEMS WITH OBAMA. I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE PRESIDENT OBAMA CAN LEARN FROM...
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| 00:49:02 |
HOST, -
GOOD QUESTION BILL. OBAMA SUPPORTS WHAT IS CALLED THE SAUDI PLAN. CAN THEY EVER ACCEPT THE PLAN? NO. TO ACCEPT THE PLAN, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH
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| 00:49:19 |
GUEST, -
RESOLUTIONS AND GO BACK TO PRE-1967 BORDERS. AND THEY HAVE TO BRING THE REFUGEES FROM LEBANON, AND MANY OF THEM ARE TERRORISTS, INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL....
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| 00:50:08 |
HOST, -
ISRAEL CANNOT POSSIBLY DO THIS. THIS IS A CRUEL JOKE TO THE PALESTINIANS.
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| 00:50:12 |
GUEST, -
TO KEEP DEBATING THEM, TO PROMISE THEM SOMETHING THAT IS NOT REALISTIC, -- TO KEEP BAITING THEM, TO PROMISE THEM SOMETHING THAT IS NOT REALISTIC, IS A...
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| 00:50:49 |
HOST, -
THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT IN IRAN. IT WAS A CONTINUATION OF AGGRESSION THAT YOU HAD IN IRAN. I THINK IT IS FORGETTING THE WHOLE HISTORY. HISTORY DOES NOT...
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| 00:51:38 |
GUEST, -
THAT SHAH OF IRAN, AND THEN TURN AROUND AND DECIDED WE DID NOT WANT HIM ANYMORE AND WE WERE GOING TO TAKE HIM DOWN. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS. IT'S HISTORICALLY...
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| 00:52:14 |
HOST, -
NUMBER TWO, WHAT HARRY TRUMAN DID, TO GET RID OF THE JEWS HERE
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| 00:52:22 |
HOST, -
TO PUT THEM IN PALESTINE. NO. 3, WHY HITLER HATED THE JEWS? WHY DID HE TAKE THEM SO MUCH? IF SOMEBODY COME AND TAKE HIM OUT OF THE HOUSE, WHAT WOULD...
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| 00:53:25 |
GUEST, -
DID NOT WANT TO ESTABLISH THE STATE FOR THE JEWS. HE TRIED TO NOT DO THAT. WE HAVE A DOCUMENT IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT CALLED "THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S...
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| 00:55:36 |
HOST, -
ATONE I AM WONDERING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. IF PEOPLE KNEW MORE OF WHAT YOU WERE ALL ABOUT, THEY WOULD ...
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| 00:56:17 |
GUEST, -
USHER IN THE MAHDI. A SPIRITUAL ADVISER TOLD ME THAT, DID A SHOT WOULD BE USHERING IN -- AHMADINEJAD WOULD BE USHERING IN THE MAHDI. ONCE HE IS ASSURED...
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| 00:57:27 |
HOST, -
COUNTRY. I THOUGHT THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DID BAD THINGS AGAINST HIM AND DRIVING INTEREST RATES UP. HE WAS KIND OF WANTING TO PAY OFF THE NATIONAL...
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| 00:59:28 |
HOST, -
THE SAME WAY FOR THE
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| 00:59:31 |
GUEST, -
JEWISH PEOPLE AND OTHER CHRISTIANS. THE IRANIAN PEOPLE KNOW THE FACTS. IF AIR FRANCE DID NOT FLY, IF ONE PLANE DID NOT FLY FROM PARIS, KHOMEINI WOULD...
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| 01:00:33 |
HOST, -
TO BRUTALIZE HIS PEOPLE. THEY ARE DARLING PEOPLE. WE DO NOT NEED TO DENY
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| 01:00:39 |
GUEST, -
THE TRUTH. WE NEED TO TELL IT. HOST: MIKE EVANS, AT THE AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK, "JIMMY CARTER: THE LIBERAL LEFT AND WORLD CHAOS," THANKS FOR BEING WITH...
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| 01:01:05 |
HOST, -
CUTS IN ABOUT AN HOUR, A DISCUSSION ON COMPENSATING KIDNEY DONORS. THE AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE WILL POST AT THIS SESSION TO BEGIN AT 11:00 A.M....
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