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ON THE FBI AND TERROR, SO I HAD THAT TRACK RECORD AND CREDIBILITY.
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I WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO A SERVICE AGENT SOME TIME AGO BY AN FBI AGENT. I STARTED GATHERING STEAM ON THAT, AND SO IT
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| 00:00:26 |
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GOES. RECENTLY, SEVERAL AGENTS STARTED TELLING ME ABOUT A CORNER-CUTTING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE HOMELAND SECURITY, SO THAT GOT ME INTO THE CURRENT...
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| 00:01:09 |
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GUEST: THE AGENTS ARE DEDICATED AND BRAVE AND IT WILL TAKE A BULLET FOR THE PRESIDENT. BUT SINCE, AND SECURITY TAKE US OVER -- SINCE HOMELAND SECURITY...
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| 00:01:32 |
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DOWN EARLY. WHEN JOE BIDEN THROUGH THE FIRST PITCH IN APRIL, THE SECRET SERVICE DID KNOW MAGNETOMETER SCREENING WHATSOEVER, OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE...
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| 00:03:01 |
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GUEST: ONE OF MY SOURCES STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT SCREENING IS,. THIS HAS BEEN DONE SINCE THE SHOOTING OF REAGAN, BECAUSE REAGAN WAS SHOT DUE...
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| 00:03:23 |
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MAGNETOMETER SCREENINGS. WHEN WE LET PEOPLE UP TO HIGHER LEVELS, THAT IS OKAY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE HIGHER LEVEL OF THE STADIUM, TOSS SOME...
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| 00:04:56 |
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THE USUAL MOTORCADE OF EIGHT SECRET SERVICE VEHICLES. INSTEAD, HE JUST HAS TWO. AND HE
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| 00:05:05 |
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REVEALED TO JOURNALISTS AT THE GRIDIRON DINNER THAT THERE WAS A BROKER FOR EMERGENCIES -- BUNKER FOR EMERGENCIES UNDER THE VICE- PRESIDENTIAL RESIDENCE....
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| 00:06:05 |
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CALLER: IF YOU ARE A SECRET SERVICE AGENT, AND YOU OBSERVE AN INDISCRETION, WHAT LEVEL DOES THAT HAVE TO REACH TO BE REPORTED? GUEST: JUST TO BE CLEAR,...
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| 00:06:22 |
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AGENT. SECRET SERVICE AGENTS ARE OBLIGATED TO MAKE AN ARREST IF THEY SEE SOMETHING ILLEGAL. IF THEY PROTECT THE IS DOING DRUGS, THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE...
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| 00:06:40 |
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AFFAIRS, WHICH LEAVES THEM OPEN TO BLACKMAIL, THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE SWORN TO SECRECY. THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY DO...
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| 00:07:38 |
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WHAT STEPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. GUEST: THAT WAS A TURNING POINT IN THE HISTORY OF THE SERVICE IN TERMS OF STEPPING UP INTELLIGENCE...
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| 00:08:09 |
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THEM, VERSUS THE SECRET SERVICE, WHO WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PUT THE PRESIDENT IN THE BASEMENT TO PROTECT HIM. JFK DID NOT WANT AGENTS TO RIDE ON THEIR REAR...
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| 00:09:07 |
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CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
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I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THIS
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| 00:09:26 |
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INDIVIDUAL -- I GOT VERY INTERESTED IN DALLAS AFTER THE WARREN COMMISSION, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THE WARREN COMMISSION DID NOT LOOK INTO....
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| 00:10:15 |
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BOOK. HOST: IN WRITING THIS BOOK, WHAT STRUCK YOU THE MOST ARE FOR MARK GUEST: GUEST: THE CONTRASTS. BARACK OBAMA IS VERY CONSIDERATE, AND SO
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| 00:10:43 |
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IS MICHELLE. THEY HAVE HAD AGENTS TO DINNER SEVERAL TIMES. RONALD REAGAN WAS THE SAME WAY, BUSH WAS THE SAME WAY.
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| 00:10:52 |
GUEST, -
IN CONTRAST, JIMMY CARTER DID NOT EVEN WANT TO THE SECRET SERVICE TO SAY HELLO TO HIM IN THE
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| 00:10:59 |
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MORNING. IT WAS TOO MUCH BOTHER FOR HIM TO SAY HELLO BACK TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. HE WOULD PRETEND TO CARRY HIS OWN LUGGAGE, BUT IT WAS EMPTY, OR OTHER...
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| 00:12:28 |
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AT A PARTICULAR HOTEL IN WASHINGTON, AGENTS WERE TAKEN CARE TO THE FOURTH FLOOR
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| 00:12:34 |
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ROOM AND LET HIM STAY THERE FOR AN HOUR OR TWO. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HYPOCRISY. BESIDES MAKING FOR ENTERTAINING READING, THESE THINGS ARE SIGNIFICANT,...
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| 00:13:34 |
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DAY. THE POLICE PRODUCED A GOOD SECURITY, BUT THEY WILL TELL YOU, IN THE STARBUCKS, SOMEBODY LEFT THEIR CREDENTIALS. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? SECRET SERVICE...
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| 00:14:20 |
GUEST, -
CUTTING CORNERS. WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THESE LARGE SHIPS AT YOUNG AGES AND NOW HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING. TODAY WE HAVE PRIVATE INJURY -- INDUSTRY AND...
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| 00:16:27 |
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PRESIDENT, AND WE HAVE OFTEN SAID THAT IF THIS WERE A WHITE PRESIDENT, THEY WOULD NEVER LET THESE PEOPLE ANYWHERE NEAR THE PREMISES. THEY WOULD HAVE...
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| 00:18:16 |
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THREATS AGAINST OBAMA ARE UP 400% COMPARED TO BUSH. THE SECRET SERVICE RECOGNIZES THAT PEOPLE HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS, WHETHER IT IS CARRYING A GUN OR TO...
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| 00:19:29 |
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WITH OTHER AGENCIES WHICH WERE OFTEN DYSFUNCTIONAL. DEMANDS ON THE SECRET SERVICE GREW EXPONENTIALLY. GUEST: THAT IS PART OF WHY THEY ARE CUTTING CORNERS....
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| 00:20:05 |
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YEAR, HALF THE PRICE OF A STEALTH BOMBER, OR COMPARED TO A STIMULUS PACKAGE OF $800 BILLION. AND THEY ARE PROTECTING DEMOCRACY. THERE IS AN ATTITUDE...
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| 00:21:21 |
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A MACHO ATTITUDE, VERSES THAT THEY JUST DO NOT CARE. GUEST: YES. THEY CERTAINLY DO CARE, BUT THEY HAVE THIS ATTITUDE THAT IS JUST WRONG. HOST: MYRTLE...
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| 00:21:50 |
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CALLER: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I WORK FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN MYRTLE BEACH AND I
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| 00:22:01 |
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REMEMBER A TIME WHEN GEORGE W. WAS AT A DEBATE, AND THE SECRET SERVICE WORKED VERY PROFESSIONALLY WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SECURITY. WHEN...
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| 00:22:54 |
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THREAT. THEY WILL INTERVIEW THE PERSON BEHIND THE THREAT EVERY THREE MONTHS AND KEEP THEM UNDER SURVEILLANCE DURING THAT TIME. SO THEY DO A VERY GOOD...
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| 00:24:16 |
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BASE, WHICH MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO TAKE JERVIS TO THE HANGAR WHERE THE LIMOUSINES WERE.
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| 00:24:24 |
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THERE WERE FIVE HANGARS, AND SHE POINTED OUT THE CORRECT ONE. SHE SAID THAT GEORGE BUSH WOULD BE WEARING A SPORT SHIRT COMING OUT OF AIR FORCE ONE. JARVIS...
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| 00:25:40 |
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OUR PRESIDENT WAS IN TRINIDAD, AND THE PRESIDENT FROM VENEZUELA WALKED HALFWAY ACROSS THAT ROOM. YOU THINK THAT THE SECRET SERVICE DID NOT THINK THIS...
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| 00:26:35 |
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COUNTRY, THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF TRUST AT SOME POINT. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WAS WHEN THE IRAQI THROUGH HIS SHOES AT PRESIDENT BUSH IN IRAQ. THEY...
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| 00:27:21 |
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BUT IN THE SITUATION WITH GEORGE W. BUSH, THE REPORTER OR WHOEVER HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE OFF HIS SHOE, THROW IT, TAKE OFF HIS OTHER SHOE, AND THROW IT,...
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| 00:27:58 |
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SERVICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INTERCEPT THESE SHOES. HOST: THE BOOK IS "THE PRESIDENTS' SECRET SERVICE." RONALD KASSLER IS OUR GUEST FOR THE NEXT 30...
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| 00:28:26 |
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CALLER: WHEN THE POLICE CORNERED HIM, HE RAN TO A THEATER. I WILL WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER. THANK YOU. GUEST: THAT CONFRONTATION WAS BETWEEN AN FBI AGENT...
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| 00:29:54 |
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THE SECRET SERVICE TODAY DOES ADVANCED WORK ON THE MOTORCADE, WHICH THEY DID NOT DO IN THOSE DAYS. IN THE CASE OF THE INAUGURATION, THEY SEALED MANHOLE...
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| 00:31:19 |
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IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, BUT NOW THESE EPISODES ARE SCRIPTED WITH THE SECRET SERVICE. THEY DECIDE WHERE
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| 00:31:26 |
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THE PRESIDENT SHOULD STEP OUT, FIND A SAFE AREA, AND THEY HAVE SEPARATE TEAMS READY. SO AT LEAST PRECAUTIONS ARE BEING TAKEN TODAY. HOST: RONALD KASSLER...
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| 00:32:04 |
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THE QUESTION ARISES, TO WHAT EXTENT, WHERE IS THE LINE DRAWN WHEN THE AGENTS VIEW BLATANT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, LIKE DRUGS, BUT I AM GOING SPECIFICALLY TO...
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| 00:33:19 |
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IMPLYING -- THEY HAVE SPECIFIC DUTIES. IF THEY SEE A CRIME IN FRONT OF THEM, YES, THEY TO MAKE AN ARREST. HOST: YOU WRITE ABOUT THE AGENTS THAT PROTECTED...
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| 00:33:53 |
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DIFFICULT. JENNA WOULD GO THROUGH RED LIGHTS TO TRY TO LOSE FOR DETAIL, AND NOT TELL THEM WHERE SHE WAS GOING SO THEY HAD TO CONDUCT SURVEILLANCE OF...
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| 00:34:13 |
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TO TAKE INTO THE HOSPITAL. SO THESE ARE THE TROUBLES THAT THEY HAVE WITH CERTAIN PROTECTEES. DICK CHENEY'S DAUGHTER WAS ALSO VERY DIFFICULT. SHE WOULD...
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| 00:36:03 |
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GUEST: NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO SIGN UP TO TAKE A BULLET FOR THE PRESIDENT. IT IS THE MANAGEMENT. THE MANAGEMENT OF THE SECRET SERVICE HAS ABUSED ITS TRUST...
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| 00:36:28 |
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MEANS THAT AGENTS COULD BE KILLED, AS WELL. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. WHY IS IT THAT EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT DOES, IT IS ALWAYS ANNOUNCED? I HAPPENED TO...
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| 00:38:00 |
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DO MAGNETOMETER SCREENING AND DETECTION. BUT THE PRESIDENT'S DO GET VERY ANTSY ABOUT ALL THIS PROTECTION. ONE TIME, RONALD REAGAN GOT PERTURBED ABOUT...
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| 00:39:01 |
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CAR. IT IS CLEAR ON THE FILM THAT THEY WERE SURPRISED AND HAD NO FOREKNOWLEDGE THAT KENNEDY DID NOT WHAT THEM ON THE BACK OF THE CAR. GUEST: KENNEDY HAD...
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| 00:39:46 |
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FINALLY, HE AGREED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF WASHINGTON D.C. POLICEMAN. ON THE NIGHT OF THE ISSUING, -- SHOOTING, THERE WAS ONE POLICE OFFICER, BUT THAT OFFICER...
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| 00:41:27 |
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GUEST: HAVE TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE, THEY ARE POLYGRAPH, THEY NEED A SECURITY CLEARANCE, AND THEN THE TRAINING IS DONE
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| 00:41:39 |
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AT TWA LOCATIONS IN MARYLAND AND GEORGIA. IT CONTAINS EVERYTHING FROM VIOLENT CRIME PREVENTION TO
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| 00:41:48 |
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EVASIVE DRIVING, MAKING A QUICK U-TURN WITH A CAR. MY WIFE HELPS DESCRIBE THINGS, SHE HAS A FORMER REPORTER. IT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE, NO QUESTION ABOUT...
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| 00:43:29 |
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IT TAKE TO CHANGE THE AMBIGUITY OF THE SECRET SERVICE NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS IF THEY WANT TO, BUT MANAGEMENT NOT LETTING SECRET SERVICE WORKS...
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| 00:44:20 |
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EXPOS SAID WHERE AN AGENCY IS NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING. THE QUESTION IS, IS ANYTHING GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT IT? THERE WILL BE INQUIRIES ON THE HILL....
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| 00:45:19 |
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ISSUED THE CODE NAME "TUMBLER," AND MAYBE THAT REMINDED HIM OF HIS DRINKING DAYS. THE WHOLE
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| 00:45:30 |
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BUSH FAMILY BEGIN WITH TEA. BARBARA AND JENNA WORK -- WORK -- WERE TURQUOISE AND TWINKLING. ANDY CARD WAS ISSUED POTOMAC, AND HE DID NOT LIKE THAT, SO...
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| 00:46:18 |
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HAVE PROTECTION WHERE THEY PICK THE PERSON UP AND BRING HIM BACK TO HIS HOME. AND THERE MAY BE PROTECTION OF PEOPLE JUST WHEN THEY GO OVERSEAS.
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| 00:46:29 |
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SO IT CAN INCLUDE GRANDCHILDREN, SOMEONE LIKE MICHELLE OBAMA'S MOTHER, BECAUSE SHE WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, DICK CHENEY'S GRANDCHILDREN, EVEN THOUGH ONE...
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| 00:47:22 |
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HAS HAPPENED. MY YOUNGER BROTHER IN MISSOURI PLACE FOR A SCOTTISH BAND, AND THEY WERE INVITED TO KANSAS CITY WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH WENT TO KANSAS CITY TO...
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| 00:48:34 |
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EXPECT THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY THAT YOU WERE TOLD. MAYBE HE DID SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS. OBVIOUSLY HE WAS INNOCENT. SECRET SERVICE AGENTS HAVE IN THEIR...
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| 00:50:44 |
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CERTAIN PRESIDENTS. IT WOULD BE NICE TO THINK THAT THERE WAS A REASON TO CUT CORNERS, BUT THERE IS NOT. AND LETTING PEOPLE INTO AN EVENT WITHOUT SCREENING...
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| 00:51:44 |
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TELL THE PRESIDENT IS IF THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR SCHEDULE FOR HIM OR DO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT INFRINGE ON HIS SITUATION. WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS OUT, THE...
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| 00:52:03 |
GUEST, -
HIS HEAD TO PROTECT FROM CHEMICAL ATTACKS. THAT IS JUST ONE PRECAUTION. ON HIS DESK AND COFFEE TABLE, THEY HAVE A PRESIDENTIAL SEAL WHICH IS AN ORNAMENT,...
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| 00:53:00 |
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LADY'S STAFF, ALL MALES ON THE PRESIDENT'S STAFF? GUEST: THEY DO NOT DO THAT. IT IS MIXED. TIPPER GORE DID NOT
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| 00:53:10 |
GUEST, -
WANT FEMALES, SO THERE WERE NOT FEMALES. WITH GEORGE BUSH, YOU HAD A LOT OF FEMALE AGENTS WEARING JEANS TO LOOK LIKE
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| 00:53:17 |
HOST, -
COLLEGE KIDS. ONE FORMER AGENT BECAME DEPUTY
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| 00:53:26 |
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DIRECTOR, WITH OTHER AGENTS FIGURING OUT THAT THEIR GUNS FIRED JUST AS WELL AS THE OTHERS. HOST: GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI. GO AHEAD. CALLER: GOOD MORNING....
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| 00:53:59 |
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HOW COULD THEY HAVE GUNS SO CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT? I SHARE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. I THINK THE BIGGER POINT WAS BEING MISSED, THAT THEY WERE EXERCISING...
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| 00:54:55 |
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AND I THINK IT IS THAT ALONG OUR COUNTRY EXISTS, IT SEEMS TO ME THE MORE DILUTED THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS IN TERMS OF OUR CONSTITUTION, THE LESS, FOR LACK...
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| 00:55:43 |
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AROUND -- I DO NOT THINK THE SECRET SERVICE THINKS IT IS A THREAT. IT IS JUST LIKE, AGAIN, THE FIRST AMENDMENT. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT,...
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| 00:57:05 |
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JUSTIFIES THE LACK OF SECURITY AROUND THE PRESIDENT. ALSO, DURING THESE TIMES, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO A FOOTBALL GAME WITHOUT BEING CHECKED OUT FOR...
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| 00:58:02 |
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REALLY CALLOUS ATTITUDE, "WE ARE THE SECRET SERVICE, WE ARE SUPERMEN, WE ARE IMPERVIOUS." THAT IS THE MINDSET. AND WE SEE THAT IN SOME OF THE OTHER SCANDALS....
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| 00:59:24 |
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GOVERNMENT. IT SEEMS TO HAVE BECOME NORMATIVE IN WASHINGTON TO BECOME COMPLACENT OR SILENT ABOUT KNOWN SHORTCOMINGS WITHIN AN AGENCY, AND THE MANAGEMENT...
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| 01:00:33 |
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AGENCY, WHO WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED FAR MORE. SO IT IS THE USUAL SITUATION WHERE THERE IS AN EXTRA DAY AND YOU WAIT TO SEE IF THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS...
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SCIENCE MONITOR" AND "POLITCOICO" WILL BE HERE. THAT IS TOMORROW AT 7:00 A.M. EASTERN. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING TODAY. [CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY NATIONAL...
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