THIS IS PROFESSOR HENRY KISSINGER, A MILITARY AND POLITICAL ANALYST WITH THE REVOLUTIONARY CONCEPT NUCLEAR WAR AND A CONSTRUCTIVE CONCEPT FOR PEACE. HE'S...

EVEN OUR SURVIVAL. WE'LL DISCUSS THE CONFLICT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND THE SOVIET UNION AND THE CHANCES OF WAR. OUR GUEST, PROFESSOR HENRY KISSINGER,...

PERHAPS IT WOULD BE WELL FOR YOU TO DEFINE WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND

POLICY. WHAT IS OUR MILITARY POLICY? >> WELL, OUR CURRENT MILITARY POLICY IS BASED ON THE DOCTRINE OF MASSIVE RETALIATION, THAT WE THREATEN AN ALL-OUT...

INVOLVE THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL MANKIND, AND THIS IS TOO RISKY AND I THINK TOO EXPENSEIVEEXPENSIVE. >> YOU OBVIOUSLY THINK IT'S WRONG, DANGEROUS TO...

IN PRACTICE I'M AFRAID THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT IT IS NOT WORTH IT AND IT WILL, THEREFORE, EN ENCOURAGE PIECE MEAL TAKING OVER...

IS FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS MILITARY POLICY CAN'T BE A SUBSTITUTE FOR OTHER MEASURES. IT CAN ONLY BE THE SCREEN BEHIND WHICH OTHER MEASURES...

TO ENGAGE IN THE WAR WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE NOW. >> CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK OUT? >> WELL, AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE 13

OF A SOVIET ATTACK SAY ON IRAQ WE COULD AIRLIFT A FEW

GENERAL AS ANY LIMITED ACTION MIGHT, HE SAID, COULD ONLY RESULT IN THE VIRTUAL DESTRUCTION OF MANKIND. NOW THAT'S THE RUB, IT WOULD SEEM, THAT ANY NUCLEAR...

FROM NUCLEAR ATTACK IF THEY WERE DECLARED OPEN AND CERTIFIED. IT COULD BE PROPOSED THAT NO WEAPON LARGER THAN 500 KYL TONS WILL BE EMPLOYED UNLESS...

BEND

IT BOILS DOWN THEN TO A VALUED CHOICE. IN THESE TERMS, YES, I THINK WAR MUST BE MADE A

IN LOGIC. WE CAN RESORT TO LIMITED WAR, HE SAYS, ONLY WHEN THE OBJECTIVE IS NOT VITAL TO EITHER SIDE IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD BE UNLIKELY TO RESORT TO...

THAT EVERY SOVIET ATTACK MUST BE ANSWERED WITH NUCLEAR WAR. AN ATTACK ON WEST BERLIN I WOULD CERTAINLY REACT IN SOME MANNER AND IN SOME MANNER THAT...

PURPOSE IS TO AVOID WAR, THAT IF WE ARE FORCED INTO WAR THROUGH SOVIET AGGRESSION WE WOULD ATTEMPT TO KEEP IT TO THE SMALLEST PROPORTION ZS NECESSARY,...

EXPANSION. IF THEY CAN CREATE THE IMPRESSION THAT ANY RESISTANCE TO SOVIET AGGRESSION INEVITABLY LEADS TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY CONCERNED, THEN...

POLICY. COULD THIS BE INDICATIVE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR THINKING HER IN AMERICA? ISN'T THIS INDEED WHAT MANY OF OUR ALLIES CRITICIZE US FOR? >>...

DEFENSE POLICIES ARE ESSENTIAL TO MAINTAIN THE PEACE. THEY ARE NOT, HOWEVER, GOING TO SOLVE THE POLITICAL PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD. THEY ARE ONLY GOING...

RATHER THAN WHAT WE ARE

PEOPLE. IN GENERAL, WE SHOULD OPPOSE COLONIAL REGIMES. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE SHOULD COME UP WITH

SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT HISTORY THAN ALGERIA. >> WOULD YOU SAY THAT OUR POSTURE VIS-A-VIS EGYPT HAS BEEN A REALISTIC ONE? DO YOU NOT AGREE THAT THE PEOPLES

PERHAPS NASSER HAS MORE SUPPORT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER GOVERNMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES? >> WELL, OUR POLICY VIS-A-VIS NASSER HAS -- HAS SUFFERED...

SCOTT BUCHANAN SAYS OUR PROBLEM HERE IN THE UNITED

WAY THE WORLD IS GOING. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CANNOT EXIST IN SUCH A WORLD? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE IDENTIFICATION OF SOCIALIST...

EXPERIENCES -- WHICH MAKE IT RATHER DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO COME TO GRIPS WITH A REALLY

YOU SMILING. >> >> WELL, I -- I MADE THIS STATEMENT. I THINK THAT THE GROUPS I WAS REFERRING TO ARE VERY WELL MEANING, VERY SINCERE, VERY PATRIOTIC...

ON THE DEMOCRATIC -- ON EITHER THE DEMOCRATIC OR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT, DR.

NATION OF SPECIALISTS. WE TEND TO THINK THAT A PROBLEM IS EITHER ECONOMIC OR POLITICAL OR

ABLE TO DO MILITARY POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC AND PSYCHOLOGICAL THINGS ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY. THEN WE HAVE BEEN RATHER SATISFIED WITH THE SITUATION IN OUR...

DECISIONS IN THIS COUNTRY USUALLY COME FROM A LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCE WHICH DOESN'T PREPARE THEM FOR THE CONDUCT OF FOREIGN POLICY. THEY MAY COME FROM...

OF AMERICAN PURPOSE. THIS HE IS MUCH LESS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING. HE OFTEN GETS THE IMPRESSION OF BEING SO INFATATED WITH THE MECHANICS OF FOREIGN POLICY...

UTTERANCES, RESPECT ED MR. ATCHISON IN MANY OF HIS

VERY MUCH ON OTHER THINGS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A PARTY OUT OF POWER TO PROVE WHAT IT CAN DO. >> BUT THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NO REPUBLICAN WHO COMES...

HAVE TO DEAL IN PERSONALITIES BECAUSE PERSONALITIES ARE LEADERS, AND PERSONALITIES ARE THE PEOPLE WHO EVENTUALLY HAVE TO ENUNCIATE THE ISSUES. I'M...

HAS PUT IT, HISTORY WILL NOT EXCUSE THE INADEQUACY OF OUR RESPONSE BECAUSE OF THE ENORMITY OF THE CHALLENGE. >> DR. JACK FISCHER'S BOOK "STOLEN GLORY,"...