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Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
AGREE THAT EVERY DISCOVERY SEEMS TO RAISE MORE QUESTIONS EVEN THOUGH AUTISM HAS NOT JUST ONE OF GENETIC PROSPECT BUT MANY. WE STILL DO NOT KNOW WITH...
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| 00:04:06 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
RESEARCH AS WE LAST MET WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO. THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY. WITH A LOT OF EXCITING PROGRESS. WE ARE GOING TO TRY...
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| 00:16:37 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT, INCLUDING NOT ONLY THE SPECIAL RFA TO SUPPORT NEW COTTON IS A RESEARCH TO THE TUNE OF $60 MILLION, BUT ALSO...
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| 00:19:01 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
HAVE DONE, BOTH FOR AUTISM AND FOR NIH AND MANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH. I WOULD LIKE TO SEND A PERSONAL THANK YOU FOR GIVING US ALLEN MURRAY,...
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| 00:19:59 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO HELP MAKE SURE WE
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| 00:20:03 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
TRIUMPH AND DID NOT LIKE THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES DOWN. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE CALLS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO LEAD IT OFF. >> THANK YOU AGAIN...
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| 00:20:33 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
ALSO, WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE EARLY INTERVENTION PROGRAMS AND HOW YOU GET TO THESE KIDS EARLY. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH EXPERTISE ON THIS PANEL IN TERMS OF,...
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| 00:21:15 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
BIG PUSH, THE OTHER END IS ADULTS ON THE SPECTRUM WHO NEED A LOT MORE IN THE WAY OF INTERVENTIONS. >> WHICH TREATMENTS AND INTERVENTIONS WILL HELP? YOUR...
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| 00:21:58 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
OF EARLY INTERVENTIONS TO TRACK THEM AND SEE WHICH ONES WORK THE BEST? >> LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS VERY QUICKLY. THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS...
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| 00:22:23 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, BUT ALSO THE PRIVATE GROUPS WHICH ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL PLAYERS FOR AUTISM. THEY ARE PUTTING IN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF RESEARCH...
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| 00:24:30 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
ME. SHE HAS JUST COMPLETED THE LANDMARK STUDY ON THAT QUESTION, GOING AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. I WOULD LOVE TO STEAL THEIR THUNDER, BUT BECAUSE SHE IS A...
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| 00:24:44 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
HEAR FROM HER DIRECTLY ABOUT HER OWN DATA. >> I HEAR A LOT ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF VACCINES AND OPTIMISM. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SCIENCE REGARDING THAT...
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| 00:25:15 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
GENETICS TO MAKE CHILDREN AND MAYBE EVEN UNBORN CHILDREN VULNERABLE. IT MAY BE THAT THESE
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| 00:25:24 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
ARE PRENATAL INTERNAL FACTORS. THE ONLY FACTOR THAT HAS BEEN EXPLORED IN GREAT DETAIL WOULD BE VACCINES. PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH AN INCREASING NUMBER...
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| 00:28:02 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
TWO WAS 8. IN 2009, IT IS A MINIMUM OF 21, MAXIMUM OF 29. FROM EVERYTHING I CAN ASCERTAIN, IT IS CLOSER TO 29. SO WE HAVE GONE FROM EIGHT IN 1983 TO...
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| 00:29:26 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
IN 1980 HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN MANY CASES. THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY THE SAME VACCINES IN MANY CASES. >> THEY ARE THE SAME. >> THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. THEY MAY...
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| 00:29:54 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
TALKING ABOUT THAT ANTIGENS, JUST
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| 00:29:56 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
THE TOTAL NUMBER HAS GONE UP. I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY STUDIES THAT WOULD
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| 00:30:04 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
COMPARE A COHORT OF CHILDREN FROM 0 TO AGE TWO THAT DID NOT GET THE SHOT AND THE INCIDENCE OF AUTISM. AND THOSE THAT DID RECEIVE 29 VACCINES AND THAT...
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| 00:30:52 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
AGO TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM. BEFORE MEETING WITH THEM, WE SAID THEN THE QUESTION, SAYING HAS THERE BEEN SUCH A STUDY? JUST THE KIND YOU...
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| 00:31:52 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
DECIDED -- THEY WILL NOT GIVE IT TO THEM BY THE AGE OF TWO, MAYBE UP BY THE -- MAY BE BOUGHT AGE OF FIVE OR SIX. I KNOW A LOT OF THAT IS HAPPENING OUT...
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| 00:32:48 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
WE ARE NOT ONLY FROM THOSE WHO ARE CONVINCED THAT VACCINES ARE THE PROBLEM BUT THOSE WHO ARE NOT. WE HAVE BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM. WE HEAR FROM LOTS...
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| 00:35:06 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
I WANT TO JOIN YOU IN WELCOMING ININSEL TO THE HEARING. WE HAVE HAD HEARINGS IN THE PAST TO TRY TO DEVELOP A BODY OF INFORMATION THAT WILL HELP US IDENTIFY...
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| 00:35:29 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
NUTRITION, HEALTH CARE GENERALLY THAT WE CAN TURN TO FOR HELP IN DEALING WITH THE CHALLENGES AND DIFFICULTIES THAT OPTIMISM BRINGS TO OUR SOCIETY --...
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| 00:37:22 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
IN 2008, OUR BUDGET FOR AUTISM RESEARCH WENT UP, AND IT WILL GO UP EVEN MORE IN 2009 BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THIS RECOVERY ACT EFFORT. WE HAVE PUT MONEY...
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| 00:38:34 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
THIS, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TO STAY, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. IF YOU COULD STAY FOR A SECOND PANEL, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO...
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| 00:38:47 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
HEAR THE COPAL ANALYSTS, BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US NEED TO HEAR SOME OF
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| 00:38:51 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THE EXPERIENCES PICTURE >> YOU CAN STAY WHERE YOU ARE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MOVE. LET'S CALL OUR SECOND PANEL, BUT DR. GERALDINE DAWSON. LET'S START FROM...
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| 00:39:05 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
RIGHT AS I CALL YOUR NAMES. MR. JOSHUA COBB'S, MISS BOYD, DAVID MILLER, AND DENA HALVERSON. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. SOME OF YOU HAVE COME A...
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| 00:39:45 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
SCIENCE OFFICER FOR AUTISM SPEAKS. DR. DAWSON RECEIVED HER PH.D. FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND PLEASE PROCEED. >> GOOD MORNING,...
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| 00:40:31 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
FISCAL YEAR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. THIS YEAR, MORE CHILDREN WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THAN WITH AGE, DIABETES, AND CANCER COMBINED....
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| 00:46:08 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THE FLOOR NOW WITH THE SOTOMAYOR ORFOUNDATION. >> THANK YOU FOR YIELDING. WE ARE TAKING UP THE CONFIRMATION HEARING OF JUDGE SOTOMAYOR OR FOR SUPREME...
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| 00:46:37 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [D] Pennsylvania
SUBJECT, AND THANK THE WITNESSES FOR COMING IN. AUTISM IS A HEARTBREAKING ALEMANAILMENT. ONE OF THE TOUGHEST PART IS TALKING TO PARENTS WHO HAVE CHILDREN...
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| 00:49:22 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
BOY, NO, WITH AUTISM. I UNDERSTAND YOUR WIFE, TINA, IS WITH YOU. >> YOU HAVE TWO OTHER CHILDREN, AND YOU WERE HERE AT OUR LAST HEARING A COUPLE OF YEARS...
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| 00:49:54 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
AND PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS
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| 00:49:59 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
OF THIS DISTINGUISHED COMMITTEE. HIGH AND THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE IOWA AUTISM COUNCIL. I AM THE PARENT OF A CHILD WITH AUTISM. I SPENT OVER SEVEN YEARS...
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| 00:50:10 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THE LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY AUTISM THROUGH INSURANCE AND EDUCATION REFORMS.
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| 00:50:15 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
WHEN I WAS LAST IN FRONT OF THIS DISTINGUISHED COMMITTEE, SPOKE OF THE SUCCESSFUL AND COST- EFFICIENT SERVICE IS MY SON RECEIVED. THESE SERVICES WERE...
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| 00:56:32 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
APPOINTED TO MISSISSIPPI'S DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, SPECIAL EDUCATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SHE ATTENDED MISSISSIPPI STATE AND RECEIVED HER DOCTORATE FROM...
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| 00:57:06 |
Boyd, Nicole Akins - Vice Chairman
TEXAS, HAS BEEN COMPLETED HIS FELLOWSHIP. MY OF HIS JOB, AT THE AGE OF 22 MONTHS DEVELOPED REGRESSIVE AUTISM. ALMOST OVERNIGHT, HE DIGRESSED FROM USING...
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| 01:05:03 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
HE HAS A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND A LAW DEGREE FROM GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY. HE IS RETIRED FROM THE ARMED FORCES AND THE FATHER OF TWO IDENTICAL...
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| 01:05:43 |
Miller, David - Co-Founder
COMPRISED OF 41 COMMUNITY COLLEGE PRESIDENTS. I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT A COLLEAGUE IS A VERY ACTIVE MEMBER OF OUR CONSORTIUM AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT...
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| 01:12:48 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
ON A FARM IN NORTH WOULD, IOWA, WAY UP IN NORTHWEST IOWA WITH HER HUSBAND AND THREE CHILDREN. HER 7-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, ROBIN, WAS DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM...
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| 01:13:33 |
Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
DAILY BASIS, I AM A WIFE AND MOTHER OF AN IOWA FARM FAMILY. I DAYS ARE FILLED FROM VERY EARLY TO BURY LATE WITH JOYCE, BLESSINGS, AND CHALLENGES OF MY...
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| 01:13:46 |
Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
WHO HAS HEAVY-METAL TOXICITY. HER ORIGINAL DIAGNOSIS AND JUST OVER AGE THREE WAS OF HIS MENTAL RETARDATION. ALTHOUGH MY DAUGHTER WAS GIVEN THE LABEL...
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| 01:21:43 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
BEEN DONE TO ALLOW FOR TREATMENT OF AUTISM. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE THE FOCUS ON. -- WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON. WE ARE IN THE HERE AND NOW. FAMILIES ARE...
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| 01:23:17 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
THAN ANOTHER TREATMENT. THE OTHER ASPECT OF COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS WORK HAS TO DO WITH METHOD OF SERVICE DELIVERY. WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS THAT WHEN CHILDREN...
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| 01:25:30 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
FINALLY, I BECAME MORE INTERESTED -- MORE ATTUNED TO THE ISSUE OF AUTISM A FEW YEARS AGO. FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN ARE AT THEIR WITS' END. THEY DO...
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| 01:27:41 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
WE WERE TALKING. IT IS THE LIGHT BULB THAT GOES ON. THE MEAN I CAN GET SERVICES WHERE AND WHEN I NEED THEM? FOR INSTANCE, IF HE IS HAVING A GREAT BEHAVIOR...
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| 01:27:58 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
ON THAT WITH THE FOUNDATION OF APPLIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS AND OTHER PROVEN METHODOLOGIES. IF HE IS HAVING A BAD DAY, IT IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN ABSTRACT...
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| 01:28:48 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
YOU WILL GET THE REVERSE EFFECT. MAYBE WE WENT IN FOR ANY RATE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A BEHAVIOR TAKING PLACE. AND WE MAY HAVE BELIEVED THAT ENVIRONMENT...
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| 01:29:03 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
CARE -- WE MAY HAVE TO LEAVE THE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT PROPERLY GIVING THEM THE CARE. TO DOVETAIL ON WHAT MS. DAWSON SAID, IT IS ALSO A GREAT WAY TO BRING...
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| 01:29:44 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE TELLER HEALTH -- TELEHEALTH STUDY I AM AWARE OF. >> THE RECOVERY ACT HAS GIVEN US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP THE DOORS FOR...
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| 01:30:05 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
AUTISM SPECIFICALLY. I THINK THIS IS THE CHANCE TO SEE REAL PROGRESS IN THIS ARENA.
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| 01:30:15 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
IT IS NOT ONLY FOR THE CHILD, IT IS FOR THE FAMILY. THAT IS WHERE SOME OF THE BIG IMPLICATIONS WILL BE. >> I AM ASSUMING YOU ARE NOT ON THIS TELEHEALTH?...
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| 01:30:52 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
PROGRESS. I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER FAMILIES AGREE WITH ME THAT AT LEAST EXPLORING IF YOUR
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| 01:30:59 |
Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
CHILD DOES HAVE THESE BIOMEDICAL ISSUES, YOU'RE GOING TO GET BETTER RESULTS WHEN YOU'RE USING THE ABA. >> HOW WOULD YOU FEEL AS A PARENT IF YOU HAD...
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| 01:31:27 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
TRAINED SPECIALISTS? >> BEHAVIOR'S BECAME NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS AN ISSUE. FOR ME, THE MEDICAL CARE THAT SHE NEEDS I CAN ONLY OBTAIN AT OUR DOCTORS' OFFICES....
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| 01:31:51 |
Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
BEEN UNDERGOING A SIX HOUR INFUSION THERAPY IN OUR DOCTOR'S OFFICE. THAT HAS TO BE DONE FOR US. IT IS A DRIVE NO MATTER WHAT. >> I HAVE TAKEN 10 MINUTES...
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| 01:32:25 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
NEEDED THAT WILL HELP MAKE POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS.
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| 01:32:29 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
I AM WONDERING, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE IN MIND TO SUGGEST -- AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND WILLINGNESS FOR GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT...
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| 01:33:45 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
IT IS THE FIRST CLINICAL TRIAL THAT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED WITH TODDLERS WHO ARE AT RISK FOR AUTISM. IT IS THE STANDARD CARE IN THE COMMUNITY OR INTERVENTION...
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| 01:37:02 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
IT IS ALREADY A PROGRAM THAT IS OUT THERE FEDERALLY. IT NEEDS TO NOW INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, BECAUSE MANY OF THESE
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| 01:37:15 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
CHILDREN ARE STARTING TO BE IDENTIFIED VERY EARLY. I CAN SPEAK TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT. AS WE WERE IN SAN ANTONIO THIS SUMMER, I MET A PRECIOUS CHILD...
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| 01:39:23 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
IT IS A FOXHOLE BY FOX WHOLE THING. IN VIRGINIA, THE AVERAGE
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| 01:39:32 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
INCOME IS ABOUT $40,000
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| 01:39:35 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
OR $50,000. THE AVERAGE COST OF SERVICE
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| 01:39:38 |
Miller, David - Co-Founder
IS ABOUT $85,000. THE FAMILIES HAVE TO DO WITHOUT. IT IS BEING DONE ON A STATE-BY- STATE BASIS. IF YOU COULD DO SOME SORT OF INSURANCE PREEMPTION, THAT...
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| 01:40:31 |
Boyd, Nicole Akins - Vice Chairman
ESTIMATES -- HER DIVORCE RATES WERE AMONG 90%. THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE NUMBERS. WE LOST TO PARENTS IN MISSISSIPPI THIS YEAR WHO COULD NO LONGER...
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| 01:41:29 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
STANDARDS AND REIMBURSEMENT MODEL FOR APPLIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS AND OTHER PROVEN THERAPIES AS MISS DAWSON SAID. THE PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES TYPICALLY...
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| 01:42:09 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF HEALTH CARE REFORM, WE NEED TO INCLUDE THIS. IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL PAYOFF DOWN THE ROAD,...
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| 01:42:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FROM THE IACC PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE A SERVICE GROUP MADE UP OF FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL AS SOMEBODY FROM
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| 01:43:10 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
CMS WHO HAS BEEN LEADING THE CHARGE -- THE PRESIDENT OF THE AUTISM SOCIETY OF AMERICA. THEY HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO FAMILIES ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND
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| 01:43:24 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
TRYING TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. I AM SURE THAT GROUP WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN AUDIENCE AND GET SOME IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH. >>...
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| 01:43:58 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
MENTION STANDARDS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> ABSOLUTELY. WHEN WE START OUR TREATMENT PROGRAM, IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE TREATMENT PROGRAM. UNFORTUNATELY,...
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| 01:44:22 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
TREATMENT. I DO NOT SEE HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO FORM A TRUE THERAPEUTIC BOND AND GO AHEAD AND TREAT THE CHILD. IS VERY DISCONCERTING. YOU CAN QUARRY PRETTY...
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| 01:45:55 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
SAME BOAT, NOT GETTING QUALITY CARE WITH NO STANDARDS ON HOW A CHILD SHOULD BE TREATED. IT IS 15 HOSPITALS THAT CARE FOR CHILDREN WITH AUTISM THAT HAVE...
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| 01:47:07 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
WE HAVE BUILT STANDARDS THAT ARE OVERSEEN BY THE FDA. IN THE BROADER PSYCHOSOCIAL INTERVENTION ARENA, THERE IS NOT AN
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| 01:47:22 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
AGENCY OR A LICENSING BODY THAT OVERSEES THIS IN QUITE THE SAME WAY. IT IS A GAP AS WE LOOK AT THIS. EVEN IN THIS HEALTHCARE REFORM CONSISTS -- DISCUSSION,...
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| 01:48:24 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THAT'S TRUE. AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A WHOLE RANGE OF INTERESTS
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| 01:48:35 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
HERE. EVERYTHING FROM THE RESEARCH INTO THE
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| 01:48:40 |
Cochran, Thad - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
CAUSES -- OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT VACCINES. YOU
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| 01:48:46 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
COVERED THAT IN YOUR TESTIMONY. WE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VACCINES AND HOW WE SET UP THAT KIND OF A STEADY -- A STUDY. MS. HALVERSON...
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| 01:49:42 |
Boyd, Nicole Akins - Vice Chairman
I AM A HUGE PROPONENT OF IT. WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT -- THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES THAT ARE NOT VACCINATING THEIR CHILDREN. AND WE DO VACCINATE OUR...
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| 01:52:01 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
BUT IN THE CHICAGO AREA, THERE IS A PRACTICE OF ABOUT 35,000 PATIENTS. MANY OF THEM CHOOSE NOT TO VACCINATE, AND THEIR OPTIMISM RATE IS NEXT TO
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| 01:52:13 |
Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
NOTHING. THERE ARE POPULATIONS -- AND THERE AUTISM RATE IS NEXT TO NOTHING. THE HOMAGE PEOPLE CAN ARGUE ON THAT. -- THE AMISH PEOPLE CAN ARGUE THAT....
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| 01:52:57 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
HAS BEEN LOOKED AT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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| 01:53:01 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
16 LARGE-SCALE STUDIES THAT HAVE PLOWED INTO THIS QUESTION THAT MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND MANY DIFFERENT POPULATIONS. WHETHER YOU READ THOSE STUDIES...
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| 01:53:38 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
OF
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| 01:53:39 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
MEDICINE. WE HAVE HEARD IT FROM THE -- >> WHEN I MENTIONED GETTING A STUDY DONE OF THE NUMBER OF VACCINES IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF LIFE, COMPARED...
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| 01:54:10 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THAT RECEIVED 29 VACCINES COMPARED TO A COHORT OF KIDS THAT GOT FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT, WHAT THEY DID IN 1980 COMPARED TO 1929. I DO NOT KNOW...
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| 01:54:51 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
VACCINES THAT ARE GIVEN -- IS 29 OVER TWO YEARS NOW. IN 1980, IT WAS 8. IS THERE ANY CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE NUMBER
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| 01:55:07 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
OF VACCINES, 29 IN TWO YEARS, AND HIGHER INCIDENCE OF AUTISM. WE DON'T KNOW THAT. >> THE WAY TO DO SUCH A STUDY CLEARLY WOULD BE ASKING -- WE WOULD HAVE...
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| 01:55:39 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
THAT IS WHEN WE GET INTO ETHICAL PROBLEMS. >> SHE JUST MENTIONED SOMEWHERE IN CHICAGO -- I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THIS IS, BUT THEY DO NOT VACCINATE. ARE...
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| 01:56:05 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
NOT VACCINATING THEIR KIDS. >> THE QUESTION ONE WOULD ASK IS NOT ONLY ABOUT DOES THIS HAVE AN IMPACT ON AUTISM, BUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON OTHER DISEASES,...
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| 01:56:28 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
FOR WHICH WE KNOW THE CAUSE OF, AND WE KNOW THE VACCINES CAN PREVENT THEM. IS THERE A POTENTIAL RELATIONSHIP HERE? >> SENATORS, THIS IS WHERE THERE ARE...
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| 01:57:06 |
Boyd, Nicole Akins - Vice Chairman
WHETHER -- THEIR MITOCHONDRIAL ISSUES INVOLVED WITH THAT. I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE LOOK AT THOSE PARTICULAR STUDIES. I AND THE STAND THE ETHICAL...
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| 01:58:13 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THOSE ILLNESSES AND DID QUITE WELL. THEY ARE ALSO FATAL. I GREW UP AS A PHYSICIAN WATCHING CHILDREN DIED WITH MENINGITIS -- CHILDREN DIE WITH MENINGITIS
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| 01:58:30 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
BECAUSE WE WERE NOT PREVENTING THOSE DISEASES AT THAT POINT IN TIME. I CAN TELL YOU, TO THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FINALLY SUCCEED IN THAT SPHERE,...
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| 01:59:14 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
ANSWER. >> I HAVE TO POINT OUT ALSO, VACCINES DO NOT ALWAYS WORK OVERTIME. MY SON IS A WALKING EXAMPLE OF THAT. THE CHICKEN POX VACCINE WAS BRAND-NEW...
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| 01:59:39 |
Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
OF SCHOOL. SIX MONTHS LATER, AFTER BEING IMMUNIZED, HE DEVELOPED A FULL- BLOWN CASE ANYWAY. THAT WAS MY FIRST CLUE THAT I WAS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO...
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| 02:00:48 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THE PREVALENCE OF AUTISM. I DO THINK THAT
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| 02:00:55 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
THERE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT STILL REMAIN TO BE ADDRESSED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE LARGE EPIDEMIOLOGY STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED...
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| 02:05:10 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
A 20-YEAR -- HOW MANY YEARS IS THIS? ARE THEY NOT KEEPING MEDICAL RECORDS? >> THEY DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO GO BACK, OBTAIN THE MEDICAL RECORDS, AND...
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| 02:05:48 |
Dawson, Geraldine - Chief Science Officer
EFFECTIVE OF A FLU INFECTIN DURING -- INFECTION DURING PREGNANCY. THESE ARE ALL OBTAINED THROUGH A QUESTIONNAIRE RATHER THAN MEDICAL RECORDS. OUR ADVICE...
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| 02:06:39 |
Insel, Thomas R. M.D. - Director
THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE. DR. DAWSON IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE SET BY SOMEBODY HERE THAT THERE...
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| 02:08:31 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
ONGOING -- THE RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE ONGOING WITH WHAT IS CAUSING THIS. THEN THERE IS THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF INTERVENTIONS AND HELPING FAMILIES RIGHT NOW....
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| 02:10:11 |
Boyd, Nicole Akins - Vice Chairman
IT DOES SAY
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| 02:10:13 |
Boyd, Nicole Akins - Vice Chairman
THAT THIMERACOL
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Halverson, Dana - Co-Founder
IS VERY MUCH A CONCERN. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK WITH OTHER DOCTORS, I COULD NAME A WHOLE BUNCH OF SCIENTISTS THAT YOU WOULD CLEAN ALL LOT OF REALLY...
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| 02:10:52 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
AGAIN, I AM ALWAYS FOR OPEN INQUIRY. ANY OTHER LAST THINGS BEFORE WE GO? >> CHAIRMAN HOCK -- COCHRAN, THANK YOU FOR TELLING -- THINK YOU FOR LETTING US...
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| 02:11:27 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
HAVE SOMEONE, WHEN THE CHILD IS ACTING UP, A PROFESSIONAL WITH THE STANDARDS CAN COME IN AND SAY, HERE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. >> EXACTLY. >>
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| 02:11:40 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
THE PROBLEM IS, YOU DO NOT GET REIMBURSED. >> YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, SIR. >> IF YOU WENT TO A HOSPITAL, THERE MIGHT BE SOME REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT....
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| 02:11:59 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
IS A COMPLETE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSURANCE BREAKDOWN. >>
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| 02:12:04 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
HOPEFULLY, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT ISSUE
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| 02:12:07 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
OF REIMBURSEMENT. I ALMOST PUT THAT IN
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| 02:12:12 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
PREVENTATIVE -- THAT PREVENTED
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| 02:12:16 |
Cobbs, Joshua - Chairman
CATEGORY OF SERVICES. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. TO ME, IT HAS BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE. WE WILL
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| 02:12:26 |
Harkin, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Senator, [D] Iowa
CONTINUE OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ISSUE. IT BEDEVILS US ALL ON GETTING A GOOD HANDLE ON IT. THANK YOU FOR THE INTERAGENCY TASK FORCE. THANK ALL OF YOU...
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