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Unidentified Speaker, -
THIS MORNING AND WELCOME TO THIS HEARING WHERE WE WILL REVIEW THE STEPS THAT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN AND THAT WE MAY ULTIMATELY TAKE TO...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
FRAUDULENT STATE EDIFICATION CARDS AND DRIVERS' LICENSES OUT TO THE HANDS OF TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME SECRETARY PELOTON NO...
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Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
IF THEY RECOGNIZE THAT EASILY OBTAIN A DRIVER'S LICENSES WERE SECURITY VULNERABILITY. AS THE CHAIRMAN HAS SAID, THE WORDS THAT I TO REMEMBER ARE THE...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE HEARINGS TO FURTHER EXPLORE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF REAL I.D. ON STATES, SECURITY, AND PRIVACY
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
AS WELL AS THE PROPOSAL THAT I BORROWED FROM OTHER MEMBERS AND LOOK FORWARD TO FIX REAL I.D. AT THIS TIME, MAY I AT HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR FRIEND, SENATOR...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
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Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
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Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
I WANT TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT. THIS EFFECTIVELY WOULD CREATE A NATIONAL DEBT OF BASE CONTAINING MASSIVE -- DATA BASE CONTAINING...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
AN AMENDMENT. I WILL MAKE IT GROW BRIEF. THANK YOU VERY ENOUGH TO DICK THANK YOU VERY
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Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN. . . THIS IS A BILL THAT I SUPPORT. WE WORKED TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IN ITS DRAFTING SO THAT THE APPROACH...
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| 00:27:48 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
SCREENING. ONE CAN ONLY CONTEMPLATE THE INCONVENIENCE IN AIRLINE TRAVEL THAT COULD OCCUR IF EVERYONE HAS TO GO THROUGH ADDITIONAL SCREENING BECAUSE THEY...
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Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
SECONDARY SCREENING, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU FORGET YOUR LICENSE, FELL 1/2 TO HAPPEN TO EVERYONE? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS WHY I AM APPRECIATIVE OF...
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| 00:28:27 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
VERY PLEASED TO BE SITTING NEXT TO JIM DOUGLAS, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF VERMONT. HE IS THE INCOMING CHAIR OF THE
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| 00:28:38 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
NATIONAL GOVERNORS' ASSOCIATION. HE WILL HEAR WHY IT LAW- ENFORCEMENT SUPPORTS THIS. WE GET TO THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON WHY WE HAVE THESE LOST IN THE FIRST...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO REEVALUATE THIS BECAUSE IT IS NOT WORKING. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS. THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS...
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| 00:42:06 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
THE WINDOW AND THERE IS A SCREEN THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE DRIVER SIDE OF THE VEHICLE. IT IS LIKE ORDERING SOMETHING AT A FAST-FOOD RESTAURANT. YOU HOLD...
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| 00:42:25 |
Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
AVAILABLE WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE THE DOCUMENT MANUALLY WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE SECURITY OF THESE DOCUMENTS...
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| 00:43:08 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
IDENTITY VERIFICATION PROCEDURE MAY HAVE BEEN WEAKENED. I HAVE HEARD THAT FROM SOME CRITICS AND IT WILL WIND UP, THIS IS BACK WHERE WE WERE BEFORE 9/11...
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Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
ID COMPLIANT DOCUMENT. THE ONLY EXCEPTION WILL BE IF THIS DATE COMES TO ME AND CERTIFY THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO COMPLY AND ARE MAKING MATERIAL PROGRESS....
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| 00:46:14 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
WORLD, YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE CAN ONLY BE ISSUED FOR A TIME THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR IMMIGRATION
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| 00:46:22 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
STATUS. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS WOULD BE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE WHICH WOULD BE ISSUED FOR THE TIME THAT YOUR LAWFUL STATUS IS ESTABLISHED. THAT STATUS WOULD...
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| 00:47:07 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
LEGISLATION TO A VOLUNTARY PILOT PROGRAM. THE 9/11 HIJACKERS HELD MULTIPLE IDENTIFICATION FROM MULTIPLE STATES. ABOUTMANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF CRIMINALS...
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Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
COUNTRY -- WITH SO MANY STATES DECLINING IN SUPPLY AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE FLOW OF REFORMATION, I THINK IT MAKES SOME SENSE. >> IS THE PRIVACY CONCERN...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
NEED FOR A PRIVACY SLEEVE ON OUR ENHANCED DRIVERS LICENSES. TO SATISFY THOSE
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| 00:49:06 |
Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC CAPTURE OF INFORMATION, SOME MIGHT BE THERE. THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN ACCESS TO INFORMATION...
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Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
OTHER STATE AND THIS HAS BEEN COMPROMISED. I PRESUME THERE IS A COST CONCERN. >> MR. CHAIR, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT COST CONCERN. A CENTRALIZED TIME WOULD...
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| 00:50:13 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
OF A HUB, IF THERE WAS SOME PLACE FOR ALL THE INFORMATION WAS COLLECTED. YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT ALL THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN WITH THIS THAT OF A FINGER....
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| 00:51:33 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
ALL OF US ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOOMING DEADLINE IN THE CURRENT LAW AND THE ABILITY OF STATES TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION...
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Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY USES TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT A STATE IS COMPLIANT. I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY THAT SECRETARY CHERTOFF TOLD ME THAT VERMONT...
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| 00:53:26 |
Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
TO FIND IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET ALL OF THESE DEADLINES BY THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT IS WHY THE URGENCY THAT THE SECRETARY NOTED IS CRITICAL....
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Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING LICENSES ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LAWFULLY IN THIS COUNTRY. MY STATE WAS ONE THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT, WE...
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| 00:56:40 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
ADDITIONAL SCREENING IF THEY SHOWED UP WITH A DOCUMENT THAT WAS NOT COMPLIANT. IT WOULD NOT BE AN AUTOMATIC SITUATION WHERE YOU CANNOT BOARD. OTHER THINGS...
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| 00:57:21 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
HAVE TO THE ID THAT IS NOW ALLOWED, THEY SAY THAT THIS CANNOT BE THE BASIS FOR KEEPING THE INDIVIDUAL OUT OF THE AIRPLANE. THE SECURITY OFFICIALS BELIEF...
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Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
SHOULD NOT BOARD THE PLANE. I THINK THAT YOU ARE CREATING A SITUATION WHERE THAT SECURITY OFFICIAL IS GOING TO FEEL THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LEAD TO...
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Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE YOU BOARD THE PLANE. >> I HOPE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE WILL LOOK FURTHER OUT. I SUPPORT MANY...
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| 00:58:51 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
PRIVACY CONCERNS I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT PUTS US IN A TERRIBLE SITUATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU,...
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| 00:59:26 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
IN 2007, WE JUST ISSUED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE REAL ID
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Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
ATACT. THIS WOULD BE GRANTED ANOTHER EXTENSION BUT ONLY IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVE THE BENCHMARKS BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2009. THIS WAS RAISED BY THE GOVERNOR....
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Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
AFFECTS. IF ALL I DO IS ENACT ANOTHER UNIVERSAL EXTENSION, WE ARE NOT GETTING TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE BECAUSE THE WHOLE GOAL HERE IS TO BEGIN REACHING...
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Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
STATES CANNOT AFFORD TO FOOT THE BILL. HAS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUED GRANTS TO STATES TO OFFSET THESE COSTS? THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY FOR...
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Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
A GOOD JOB AND DO YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED ONE OF THE KEY CONCERNS THAT ALL STATES HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CHALLENGING CLIMATE. WE ARE FACING TREMENDOUS PRESSURE,...
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Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
DEADLINE ALTHOUGH SUBSTANTIAL PORTIONS OF THE REGULATIONS COULD BE USED TO CRAFT REGULATIONS. MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE DEPARTMENT WOULD...
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| 01:06:05 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
WE CAN GET REGULATION OUT PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THE PAST TIME LINE WILL END UP WITH FULL IMPLEMENTATION. >> IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT PASS ID ALLOWS...
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Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
OTHER VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE BEING VERIFIED USING THE ELECTRONIC VERIFICATION? AS YOU NOTED, SOME EVENT IS THE SAME...
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Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
STATE,. I BELIEVE THAT 13 STATES ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS.
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Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
I DID NOT KNOW THE SCHEDULE FOR THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF PURCHASE AND A DELEGATION. -- BIRTH CERTIFICATE IDENTIFICATION. >> THIS HELPS TO ACHIEVE THE...
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| 01:09:35 |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM. >> THIS IS QUITE A PROCESS TO GET ALL OF THE DAY THAT ENTERED IN THE FORM THAT CAN BE ACCESSED IN A CONSISTENT WAY. SOME OF...
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| 01:10:01 |
Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
ARE WORKING AT IT. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO COMPLY AND IT IS SO ONEROUS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THE BENCHMARKS. WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE...
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| 01:10:46 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
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Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
I USE THIS TO GO THROUGH AIRPORT SECURITY. IF A PERSON DOES NOT DROP, UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE SEEKING TO DO THIS BASED ON DRIVER'S LICENSES. IS THAT...
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| 01:11:37 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
HAVE SOME IDEA. THE PASS ID WHICH ALSO ENCOMPASSES SOME EYE TO THE VACATION FROM THE STATES. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE HAD A NATURAL
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Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
ID. >> THEY DON'T HAVE THE BURDEN OF TRYING TO PROCESSED THIS. IF YOU DO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING, YOU'RE
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| 01:12:20 |
Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
PROBABLY HAVE TO GET TO THE AIRPORT THREE OR FOUR HOURS EARLIER. I SEE A BIG PROBLEM COMING THIS WOULD HAMPER AIR TRAVEL. I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ...
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| 01:13:04 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
IED SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE BETWEEN ENFORCING THE LAW THAT CONGRESS HAS PASSED AND CREATING WHAT COULD BE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF CONFUSION....
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Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. I LEFT HOME THE OTHER DAY AND I DID NOT HAVE MY ID WITH ME. THE PROCESS THAT I HAD TO GO...
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| 01:15:27 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
THE PROCESS. MY JOB AS THE SECRETARY OF HOME AND SECURITY IS TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO IMPLEMENT THEM AND TO MOVE US TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION WHICH...
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Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
AMERICANS, DO WE HAVE ANY STUDIES IN REFERENCE TO THIS -- KEY TO THE IDENTIFICATION OF AMERICANS, DO WE HAVE ANY STUDIES IN REFERENCE TO THIS? THE YOU...
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Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
IS DIFFICULT -- >> I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LONG RUN.
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| 01:17:53 |
Douglas, James "Jim" H. - Governor
THIS WILL NOT BE AS SECURE AS WE THINK IT IS. HOW SECURE IS THIS GOING TO BE?
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| 01:18:10 |
Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
I HOPE THAT WE CAN TO GET TO A HIGHER LEVEL WITHOUT TO THE INVASION OF PRIVACY. THE TRANSFER, DEALING WITH ILLINOIS, OHIO, IT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE ON...
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| 01:19:17 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
DOCUMENTS. AFTER YOU GET THE DOCUMENTATION, OTHER PEOPLE CAN ENTER INFORMATION. YOU CAN
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| 01:19:27 |
Burris, Roland - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
GET A START. >> WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRIEF YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON OTHER PROTECTIONS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE DOCUMENTS TO INHIBIT FORGERY, FALSE...
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| 01:19:50 |
Napolitano, Janet - Secretary
IT IS NEVER 100% BUT IT IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN YEARS PAST. >> THANK YOU, SENATOR BURRIS.
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| 01:20:26 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
I WANT TO CHALLENGE EACH OF US TO WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. I WILL NOW CALL THE SECOND PANEL. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE APPRECIATE...
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| 01:21:37 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
ROLE IN A NEW DEPARTMENT. WE ARE QUITE REGULARLY HEARING FROM FORMER EXECUTIVES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TENDERLY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND CONTINUE...
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Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
I WILL TALK ABOUT ONE OF THEM TODAY AND THIS IS THE SOURCE DOCUMENT PROBLEM. IT IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND THIS. . . @@@@@@@@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ TT@...
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| 01:29:13 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
THAT WAS A COMPELLING STORY. WHAT YOU SAY IS THAT -- WE SHOULD BE INVESTING FEDERAL MONEY IN THE NATIONAL DATA BASE SYSTEM? THIS SYSTEM IS JUST BEGINNING...
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| 01:29:34 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
TOGETHER, AND THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE. >> WE SHOULD SPEND MONEY ON THAT, I KNEW NOTHING THIS IS THE CENTRAL DATABASE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE TO INQUIRE...
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| 01:29:58 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
OF THAT FOR THIS ACTIVITY IS A FEW MILLION DOLLARS, AND THIS IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS PER STATE, TO CLEAN UP THE DATABASE. THE GUESS IS THAT THIS CAN...
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| 01:30:39 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
HE LEADS THE LARGEST SHARES DEPARTMENT IN THE NATION, WITH OVER 18,000 OFFICERS AND STAFF. I THANK YOU FOR GOING TO THE TROUBLE OF COMING ACROSS THE COUNTRY...
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| 01:31:22 |
Baca, Leroy D. - Sheriff
AND CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION MY TESTIMONY WILL FOCUS ON THE NEED FOR A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR IDENTIFICATION AND SECURITY, FROM A...
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| 01:36:15 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. SINCE MY BOSS, GOVERNOR DOUGLAS IS THE CHAIRMAN AND HE HAS SPOKEN TO MY FORMER BOSS, AND THE SECRETARY SPOKE SO ELOQUENTLY...
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| 01:36:36 |
Quam, David - Director
GIVEN BY THE GOVERNORS. THEY ARE TALKING THROUGH THIS ISSUE. IT IS REMARKABLE HOW THIS CAME TOGETHER WITHOUT STAFF, HOW DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE STATE...
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| 01:42:00 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
THE HEARING AND ASKING ME TO TESTIFY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, AND ALSO THE COLLEAGUES AT THE NATIONAL GOVERNORS' ASSOCIATION...
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Schwartz, Ari - Vice President and COO
I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE INTELLIGENCE REFORM COMMITTEE AND I THINK THAT CENTERED COLLINS LAID OUT WHAT THE CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE WAS IN TRYING TO COME...
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| 01:46:39 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
AS YOU HEARD IN THE FIRST PANEL, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STATES, THE VALIDATING SOURCE DOCUMENTS. THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR A LICENSE....
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| 01:48:13 |
Schwartz, Ari - Vice President and COO
SON'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND WHEN I WENT TO CHANGE THIS, THEY DO NOT CHANGE THE FIELD. EVERY LOCALITY HAS A DIFFERENT WAY THAT THEY DO THESE CHANGES...
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| 01:49:39 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
QUICK RESPONSE AND YOU WILL ELIMINATE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF FRAUD.
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| 01:49:45 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
WE SHOULD SOLVE THE BIG PROBLEMS FIRST. THE SECONDARY PROBLEM CAN BE ADDRESSED BY PICKING UP THE TELEPHONE, OR YOU SEE TO THE STATE, CAN YOU TELL US IF...
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| 01:50:43 |
Lieberman, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Senator, [I] Connecticut
APPLICATIONS FOR MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR COUNTERFEITING TO TAKE PLACE, AND YOU TALK ABOUT
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| 01:50:51 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
THIS IN THE WRITTEN STATEMENT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF MORE OFTEN TICKET DRIVERS LICENSES, TO U.S. SOMEONE WHO IS INVOLVED IN THIS? >> YES....
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| 01:51:27 |
Baca, Leroy D. - Sheriff
IN THE DATA BASE OUT THERE, IN THE INTERNET WORLD, THAT ARE CONNECTED TO PEOPLE WITH THE SKILLS TO ACCESS THE INFORMATION. THERE HAS TO BE SOME TIME...
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| 01:54:01 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
THIS CRIMINALIZES THE ACT OF SCANNING THE INFORMATION ON THE DRIVER'S LICENSE MACHINE, IT SAYS THAT THIS WOULD BE A CRIME TO SEND THE INFORMATION TO STORE...
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| 01:56:06 |
Schwartz, Ari - Vice President and COO
THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN OVER THE ISSUE. WE HAD CONCERNS OVER THIS PROVISION AS WELL. THIS TELLS YOU ABOUT HOW THIS MAY BE USED DOWN THE ROAD. THEY SAY...
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| 01:57:57 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
ASKED ABOUT THE USE OF GRANT FUNDING, YOU EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRIORITY
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| 01:58:09 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
OF ID SECURITY AND REQUESTED THAT THIS INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO SAY THE GRANTS TO IMPROVE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE -- THESE ARE HIGHER PRIORITY THAN OTHER STATE...
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| 01:59:06 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
SENDING A BILLION DOLLARS TO THE STATES, TO IMPROVE HOMELAND SECURITY. THIS IS A FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITY, SINCE WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE SECURITY, AND A...
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| 02:00:37 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
OF THE VITAL RECORDS -- AS I UNDERSTAND THIS, SOME STATES USE THE SYSTEM TO HELP VERIFY A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AND DISINFORMATION. BUT ONLY A FEW STATES...
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| 02:01:42 |
Quam, David - Director
STATEMENT, ABOUT 15 STATES PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND ONLY THREE OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY USING THE SYSTEM. ONLY THREE CURRENTLY USE THIS SYSTEM. ONE ORGANIZATION...
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| 02:04:55 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
DIGITIZE, AND THEY COULD SEARCH FOR THIS, FOR $100 MILLION.
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| 02:05:02 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
OR $2 MILLION PER STATE. FOR THE MONEY TO GET THIS ACTIVATED IN ALL STATES, WHAT IS THE BASIS OF THIS ESTIMATE? >> THIS IS COMING FROM THE ESTIMATES THAT...
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| 02:05:41 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
THERE ARE SOME STATES THAT HAVE PROTESTED THIS, PASSING LEGISLATION FOR COMPLIANCE -- AND OTHERS THAT HAVE INVESTED MONEY AND EFFORT, TAKING STEPS TO...
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| 02:06:08 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
STATE. IF THIS PAST, AND WE HAVE NEW REGULATIONS, WITH THEIR BIG CONCERN THAT THE INVESTMENTS FROM THE STATES WHO WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW WOULD...
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| 02:07:03 |
Quam, David - Director
THE INVESTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. THESE INVESTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY UNDER USED. IT IS INTERESTING THAT IN SOME STATES, SOME OF THOSE GOVERNORS HAVE SAID,...
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| 02:08:06 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
NOT WANT WASHINGTON TO TELL THEM HOW. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN RESENTFUL OF THE FINANCIAL BURDEN. DOES EVERY STATE CURRENTLY HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR THE LEGAL...
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| 02:08:51 |
Quam, David - Director
I BELIEVE -- I BELIEVE THAT NEW MEXICO AND HAWAII HAVE NOT GONE TO THIS. >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CHECK WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR, FOR THE RECORD.
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| 02:09:06 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
THE STATE OF MAINE -- THE
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| 02:09:14 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
GOVERNOR REPEALED THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SHOWING OF LEGAL PRESENCE.
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| 02:09:22 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THE SITUATION THAT HE DESCRIBED, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SITUATIONS BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH CANADA, AND GREAT LOVE -- GREAT-GRANDMOTHER...
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| 02:12:29 |
Baker, Stewart A. - Assistant Secretary
WE LOOK FOR TERRORISTS, NOT JUST FOR WEAPONS. AND I PREDICT THAT ONCE WE WRITE THIS INTO LAW, PEOPLE WILL SAY, I MISS MY FLIGHT. I WAS ANSWERING YOUR...
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| 02:13:59 |
Collins, Susan M. - U.S. Senator, [R] Maine
YEARS, WHICH IS BEING USED TODAY, IN SOME AIRPORTS, LOGAN IN BOSTON IS ONE OF THEM THAT IS USING THIS TECHNIQUE. THIS IS A TRAINED ASSESSMENT AND MY...
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| 02:16:08 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
A FEW QUESTIONS HERE -- HIS TESTIMONY SUGGESTS THAT THIS ACT WILL INCREASE PRIVACY PROTECTIONS. AND THAT THE BP OF THIS -- THIS WILL LEAD TO MORE CASES...
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| 02:17:36 |
Schwartz, Ari - Vice President and COO
PROTECTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN THE SECURITY ACT. THEY SAY THEY WILL PROTECT SECURITY AND TRIED TO USE THIS FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION. THEY HAVE THESE PRIVACY...
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| 02:19:35 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
THE DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THE ID CARDS. WE HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR THIS INFORMATION. THIS IS PUT INTO A COMMON MACHINE THAT...
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| 02:20:34 |
Schwartz, Ari - Vice President and COO
DRIVER'S LICENSE ISSUED BY THE STATE, THEY CAN SEE THAT THE INFORMATION IS IN THE DATA BASE, TO SEE THAT THIS IS THE SAME PERSON. BUT THEY CANNOT TAKE...
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| 02:23:01 |
Akaka, Daniel K. - U.S. Senator, [D] Hawaii
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