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A FULL PROGRAM AND A LIVE PROGRAM. WE HAVE THREE AUTHORS TODAY. ONE IS A PRACTICING LAWYER AND A LOVER OF HISTORY, TOM CAMPBELL, WHO WAS VERY INTERESTED...
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THE PERIOD LEADING INTO THE CIVIL WAR. DAVID STEWART IS A TRIAL LAWYER FOR 25 YEARS AND AN AWARD-WINNING WRITER, BOTH SKILLS ARE APPARENT IN HIS BOOK...
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HIS LIFE CRUSADE TO AGITATE AGAINST IT. AND THE PROBLEM HE HAD, OBVIOUSLY, WAS IN MISSOURI WAS A SLAVE STATE AND IT DIDN'T GO OVER VERY WELL THERE....
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| 00:04:13 |
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THE TERM SO WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. >> SURE. IN ADDITION TO BEING OPPOSED TO SLAVERY, THE ABOLITIONIST WERE VERY UPSET WITH ALL THE HARSH MEASURES...
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| 00:04:32 |
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BAND FREE BLACKS FROM COMING TO THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. THAT PROVISION
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| 00:04:35 |
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WAS NOT REPEALED UNTIL AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. AND THERE WERE HARSH MEASURES THAT PREVENTED BLACKS FROM SERVING ON JURIES, TESTIFYING AND THINGS OF THAT...
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| 00:06:56 |
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THE LIBERTY PARTY AND THE FREESTYLE PARTY AS THE ONE IDEA TRIED. THERE ONE IDEA WAS THE ABOLITION
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| 00:07:03 |
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OF SLAVERY. AND THAT WAS MORE THAN THE NATION WAS READY FOR, AND THE REPUBLICANS INSTEAD CAME UP WITH THIS STOP THE EXPANSION OF SLAVERY. ANDY ABOLITIONISTS...
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| 00:07:41 |
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HELD AND SOLD INTO SLAVERY. AND AS OCCURRED IN CHICAGO. THE SHERIFF CAME OUT. THE ABOLITIONISTS WERE BESIDES THEMSELVES. THEY PRINTED SIGNS AND WENT...
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TO SHOW UP AT THIS AUCTION. SO THE DAY CAME AND A BIG CROWD ASSEMBLED. AND THE SHERIFF SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT AM I BID ASK WHAT AM I BID? NOBODY WOULD...
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| 00:08:45 |
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THE THINGS THAT ASTOUNDED ME I RAN ACROSS THE FACT THAT LINCOLN HAD HANDLED PROBABLY SIX RUNAWAY SLAVE CASES BEFORE HE WAS ON THE RUNAWAY SITE. BUT HE...
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| 00:09:03 |
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THAT MATTER, TAKE THAT POSITION. WHILE ILLINOIS WAS A FREE STATE, THERE WERE EXCEPTIONS AND YOU COULD HAVE PROPERLY INDENTURED SERVANTS OR YOU COULD...
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| 00:10:11 |
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LEAST THAN WAS CHANGING. IT WAS IMPROVING FROM THAT OF BEING SORT OF A BACKSLIDER IN THE AREA OF SLAVERY, EMANCIPATION, TO SOMEONE WHO IS ALMOST A SYMPATHETIC...
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| 00:10:58 |
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ABOUT JOHNSON. REALLY, THEY DO TWO THINGS. ONE WAS THAT WHEN ALL OF THE SOUTHERN SENATORS AND SOUTHERN REPRESENTATIVES SECEDED WITH THEIR STATE IN 1861,...
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| 00:13:17 |
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THINK THE KENNEDY BOOK, PROFILES IN COURAGE IS SOMETHING I TAKE AFTER AT THE END OF MY BOOK. THERE'S REALLY BEEN A MISUNDERSTANDING AFTER THE CIVIL...
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| 00:17:43 |
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A YEAR. AND WE HAD NEVER IMPEACHED A PRESIDENT, OF COURSE. THERE HAD BEEN FOUR JUDICIAL IMPEACHMENT, ONLY TWO OF WHICH HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL. AND THERE...
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| 00:17:58 |
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TO THE BOOTH ASSASSINATION ITSELF, WHICH WAS REALLY RIDICULOUS. AND IT SEEMED THAT THE IMPEACHMENT THING WOULD DIE. AND EVERY TIME THE IMPEACHMENT ...
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| 00:19:44 |
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SO PUT THIS ON YOUR SHELF. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TURN INSTEAD TO THE AGE OF LINCOLN. YOU HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THE AGE...
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| 00:20:52 |
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FLOWING IN THE PERIOD, PARTICULARLY LINCOLN'S FORMATION AND IDEAS LEADING IN THE CIVIL WAR, HOW THEY ARE CHANGED DURING THE CIVIL WAR AND OVER TIME....
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| 00:28:08 |
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PARTY. LET'S GIVEN A. WHO IS IN THE BOOK? >> TOM WATSON. >> WHO I THINK EPITOMIZES HOW THE DOTS LEAD IN SORT OF CONFLICTING DIRECTIONS. >> TOM WATSON...
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STORY AND IT'S A
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GREAT, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF STUDIES, TOM WATSON AND RARING REVEL, DATED. IT
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| 00:28:42 |
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IS A GREAT BOOK, ONE OF THE GREAT CLASSIC WORKS IN HISTORY, WHICH LOOKS AT HOW WATSON ACTUALLY CHANGES FROM THIS VERY IDEALISTIC CRUSADER FOR AT LEAST...
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| 00:31:15 |
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HAVE HEARD, BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE CIVIL WAR? >> I HAVE BEEN FASCINATED BY THE STORIES THAT WE HEARD TODAY ABOUT ABOLITIONISM IN CHICAGO AND ABOUT...
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| 00:31:40 |
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THIS BICENTENNIAL YEAR WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE WORST RECESSION, IF YOU WILL, OR THE WORST RECESSION CERTAINLY...
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| 00:36:48 |
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LAND OF LINCOLN HAS OVER 100 SUNS DOWNTOWN WHERE OBAMA CANNOT LEGALLY SLEEP EXCEPT IN JAIL. HOW MUCH DID ABRAHAM LINCOLN CONTRIBUTE? IS HE GUILTY...
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| 00:37:05 |
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SECOND QUESTION, COULD ANDREW
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| 00:37:07 |
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JOHNSON READ? THIRD QUESTION. WAS LINCOLN AN ATHEIST WHO PUT GOD ON THE MONEY? >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK IS A QUESTION FOR EACH OF US. [LAUGHTER]...
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| 00:37:39 |
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STRUCK BY WILEEN'S REMARK ABOUT LINCOLN BEING A SELF-MADE MAN. THAT IS STEVENS WHO
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| 00:37:44 |
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WAS A GREAT JOHNSON HATER WAS TOLD THAT JOHNSON WAS A SELF-MADE MAN AND STEPHENS SAID WELL THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR OTHERWISE GOD ALMIGHTY HAD A LOT TO
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| 00:37:52 |
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ANSWER FOR. [LAUGHTER] >> BUT JOHNSON THOUGHT HIMSELF TO READ BY HANGING OUT IN A TAILOR SHOP RATHER LIKE BARBERSHOPS ARE A CENTER FOR CONVERSATION...
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| 00:38:17 |
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SMART FELLOW. AND THE THINGS HE KNEW, HE KNEW EXTRANET WILL. HE COULD RECITE LONG POEMS. HE UNDERSTOOD, HE WAS FAMILIAR WITH CLASSICAL HISTORY. NOT...
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| 00:39:05 |
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ARTICULATED A DIVISION OF EQUALITY AND REACHED INTO THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE TO
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| 00:39:11 |
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DO THAT, THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SOME TENSION THERE. YOU KNOW, IN THE DEBATES, DOUGLAS WOULD CHIDE LINCOLN AND SAY, HOW CAN YOU SAY ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL,...
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| 00:40:28 |
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ADD TO THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL LOOKING FROM THE 21ST CENTURY TO THE 19TH CENTURY ABOUT RACE. THE AMAZING THING ABOUT LINCOLN, I THINK IT'S...
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| 00:40:48 |
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RACE. I ARGUED AT THE END OF HIS LIFE HE IS LEADING THE NATION TO A BETTER PLACE ON RACE. BUT IT'S HIS EXPOSURE TO LEARNING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE. INCLUDING...
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| 00:44:02 |
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HE LOVED IT SO MUCH BECAUSE HE WAS BIG ENOUGH TO BE INCONSISTENT. THAT'S REALLY A CLUE TO LINCOLN AND RACE. BECAUSE HE COULD GROW. HE COULD BE THE...
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ARE TAPED COVERAGE FROM DAY TWO OF THE 2009 CHICAGO TRIBUNE PRINTERS ROW LIT FEST CONTINUES AFTER THIS BREAK. COMING UP NEXT, PAUL BUTLER, AUTHOR OF...
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I WOULD SAY RESPECTING CHILDREN AS READERS AND NOT TALKING DOWN TO THEM.
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