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ON JUNE 7, RICHARD HENRY LEE INTRODUCED THE RESOLUTION IN THE CONGRESS TO DECLARE INDEPENDENCE. ON JUNE 11, A COMMITTEE OF FIVE WAS APPOINTED, AT JEFFERSON,...
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ADAMS, ROGER SHERMAN AND LIVINGSTON. JEFFERSON WAS NAMED THROUGH MEANS THAT ARE NOT QUITE CLEAR TO PREPARE A DRAFT, WHICH HE DID. HE SUBMITTED IT TO...
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HAS A RATHER INTERESTING HISTORY. WHEN
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GUEST, -
THE NEW GOVERNMENT WAS FORMED IN 1789, AT THE PAPERS OF THE OLD CONTINENTAL CONGRESS WERE GIVEN TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE. AMONG THOSE PAPERS WAS THE...
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| 00:03:54 |
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SEND US MESSAGES THROUGH E-MAIL OR TO ORDER. -- OR TWITTER. IF WE HAD A ROUGH DRAFT WE SEND OUT AN E-MAIL AND PEOPLE MAKE THEIR CORRECTIONS AND SENT IT...
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| 00:04:45 |
GUEST, -
DRAFT FROM THE TIME IN WHICH JEFFERSON FIRST WROTE IT OUT UNTIL IT WAS AMENDED BY CONGRESS ON JULY 4. MOST OF THOSE CHANGES WERE IN THE NATURE OF A COPY...
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| 00:06:08 |
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BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL DECLARATION WAS MORE OR LESS A LIST OF GRIEVANCES AGAINST THE KING.
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| 00:06:12 |
GUEST, -
GUEST: THIS WAS A MAJOR GRIEVANCE THAT GOT DELETED. HE SAYS HE HAS RAGED CRUEL WAR AGAINST HUMAN NATURE ITSELF, OF VIOLATING ITS MOST SACRED RIGHTS AGAINST...
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HIM, AND CARRIED THEM INTO SLAVERY IN ANOTHER HEMISPHERE.
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GUEST, -
THIS WARFARE IS THE WARFARE OF THE CHRISTIAN KING OF GREAT BRITAIN. DETERMINED TO KEEP OPEN A MARKET WHERE MEN ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD. HE HAS PROSTITUTED...
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THREE WORDS IN THERE THAT COULD MAKE THEM OBJECTIONABLE EVEN IN THE MODERN DAY TO REFER TO CHRISTIANITY AND USE THE WORD PROSTITUTE AND WHORE. THOSE WILL...
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| 00:09:09 |
GUEST, -
WHO MADE WHAT CHANGE. APPARENTLY, FRANKLIN AND ADAMS MADE THE MOST CHANGES, BUT THERE WAS HARDLY ANY DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN FRANKLIN AND JEFFERSON. LATER...
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| 00:10:41 |
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I AM LOOKING AT A SECOND AMENDMENT, TWO VERSIONS OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT ON LINE. MILITIA
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IS CAPITALIZED, THE STATE IS CAPITALIZED, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS CAPITALIZED. THEREFORE, MALAYSIA HAS TO EXIST -- MILITIA HAS...
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| 00:11:45 |
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ABOUT THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. IT ATTACKS THE KING OF ENGLAND FOR KEEPING A STANDING ARMY IN TIMES OF PEACE IN THE COLONIES, BUT THE...
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| 00:12:59 |
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SOME PATHETIC TIMES IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE COME TO US AND SAID WITH
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| 00:13:06 |
GUEST, -
GREAT EXCITEMENT, GUESS WHAT I HAVE HERE? I HAVE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. THERE IS ONLY
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GUEST, -
ONE COPY OF THE DECLARATION, AND THAT IS IN THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES. IN 1823, THERE IS A MAN NAMED STONE WHO MADE A COPY USING THE ORIGINAL DECLARATION...
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| 00:15:34 |
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JULIAN BOYD. IN THAT VOLUME HE WILL FIND A FACSIMILE OF THE ROUGH DRAFT. YOU COULD WRITE TO THE -- YOU COULD WRITE TO ME AT THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS....
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| 00:16:41 |
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HE SUBSTITUTED A KEYWORD CREATOR INSTEAD OF GOD IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. I WILL TAKE MY ANSWER OF AIR. GUEST: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION BUT...
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| 00:17:11 |
GUEST, -
YOU WOULD FIND COMMONLY USED BY INTELLECTUALS DURING THE ENLIGHTENMENT TIME. THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE HAS ALSO BEEN CALLED A FACTOR OF THE AMERICAN...
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| 00:18:11 |
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WELL-UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO MEET FOREIGN ASSISTANCE TO PREVAIL AGAINST GREAT BRITAIN, THE MIGHTIEST MILITARY POWER IN THE WORLD AT THAT...
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| 00:18:21 |
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NO ONE BELIEVED THAT ANY COUNTRY WOULD OFFER ASSISTANCE TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WERE STILL SUBJECTS OF GREAT BRITAIN. YOU HAD TO DECLARE YOURSELF AN...
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| 00:19:17 |
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STEP, BUT TRADESPEOPLE AND COMMON CITIZENS BECAME CONVINCED THAT RECONCILIATION WITH ENGLAND WAS IMPOSSIBLE AND AGITATED FOR A FORMAL SEPARATION. GUEST:...
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WEALTHY LANDHOLDERS, BUT LOTS OF THEM WERE NOT. THERE WERE LOTS OF WEALTHY PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. I BELIEVE JOHN HANCOCK...
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| 00:20:21 |
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THE CONVERSATION, THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE SCREEN. YOU CAN ALSO SEND US MESSAGES THROUGH E-MAIL AND TWITTER. JOHN ON OUR LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS. WHAT IS...
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| 00:21:08 |
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IT WAS JUST BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE DURABLE. I AM NOT A STUDENT OF PAPER, AND I
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AM NOT 100% SURE BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS VELUM.
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HOST: WAS IT COMMON FOR DOCUMENTS OF THIS TYPE TO BE WRITTEN ON THIS? GUEST: NO.
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GUEST, -
I HOPE I AM RIGHT ABOUT THAT. HOST: NEXT UP IS DENVER, COLORADO. THANKS FOR WAITING. CALLER: THANK-YOU. HAPPY
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FOURTH OF JULY. MY QUESTION IS IS IN TODAY
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| 00:21:50 |
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CELEBRATION OF AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE AND SOVEREIGNTY? DO YOU FEEL THAT GLOBALISM MAE STRIPPED AMERICA OF ITS SOVEREIGNTY? --
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DO YOU THINK GLOBALISM MAY STRIP AMERICA OF ITS SOVEREIGNTY GUEST: I DO NOT REALLY HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT. I N AND HISTORIAN. IT IS ONE THAT WORRIES...
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SIGNED THIS HAD THEY FAILED. THANK YOU. GUEST: THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN TRAITERS. THEY KNEW THAT AND I THINK MANY OF THEM EXPECTED OR FEARED THAT THEY WOULD...
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THEY WRITE ABOUT SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. THEY SAY THEY ARE WORDS THAT SHOULD NOT BE...
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CIRCUMSTANCES THAT TEST OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, OR OUR COMMITMENT TO BE A WELCOMING BEGIN TO IMMIGRANTS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. IS THIS THE BACKGROUND THAT...
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| 00:23:58 |
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AND THEREFORE WE ARE OVERTHROWING HIS GOVERNMENT. BUT THE FIRST PART OF IT ABOUT ALL MEN BEING CREATED EQUAL, IT SPEAKS TO A LARGER ISSUE, AND JEFFERSON...
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| 00:24:49 |
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ABOUT THESE CHARGES AND ACQUISITIONS WE PUT IN FRONT OF HIM? I KNOW HE SENT HIS ARMY OVER BUT DID HE SEND A LETTER BACK? GUEST: AS FAR AS WE KNOW I AM...
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| 00:25:20 |
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THAT IT CONTAINED, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE BECAME -- BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT IS HARD TO KNOW WHETHER THE KAINE EVEN READ IT OR NOT. THE CONGRESS SENT OVER...
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| 00:26:16 |
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THE FOURTH I KNOW THAT IT WAS EDITED DOWN FROM TWO-THIRDS AND JEFFERSON WAS UPSET. WHY DO WE CELEBRATE THE FOURTH AND NOT JULY 2? GUEST: THE FOURTH WAS...
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| 00:26:52 |
GUEST, -
DECLARATION WAS ADOPTED ON THE FOURTH. THE COUNTRY HAS -- IT WAS READ AROUND TO THE TROOPS. WHETHER THIS IS -- IT IS A GOOD QUESTION WHY THE SECOND DISAPPEARED...
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| 00:27:42 |
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SECURITY. IT IS
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ENCASED.
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| 00:27:49 |
HOST, -
WE DO OCCASIONALLY HAVE IT ON
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| 00:27:53 |
GUEST, -
EXHIBITION BUT IT IS NOT ON EXHIBITION AT THE MOMENT. HOST:KENT ON THE LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS. CALLER: WHAT ARE THE CHANGE -- ONE OF THE CHANGES THEY MADE...
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| 00:28:43 |
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MOST NATURAL RIGHTS WRITERS WOULD HAVE USED THE KIND OF WORD OF LIFE, LIBERTY AND PROPERTY. . IT WAS A SOMEWHAT IDIOSYNCRATIC TERM, FOR SURE. >> WE'RE...
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THE VARIOUS STATES. IF YOU WERE A REPRESENTATIVE OF X, YOU COULD SIGN. ACTUALLY, THE DECLARATION WAS AVAILABLE FOR SIGNATURE FOR SOMETIME AFTER...
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| 00:30:22 |
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THAT'S ONE OF THE WORKING THEORIES. BUT YOU HAD -- WELL, SAMUEL ADAMS WAS IN THE MASSACHUSETTS DELEGATION. RICHARD HENRY LEE WAS A SIGNER. THESE WERE...
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| 00:31:03 |
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OF PAMPHLETS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE SUFFERED.
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THEIR PROPERTIES WERE BURNED. THEY THEMSELVES OR THEIR FAMILIES SUFFERED IN VARIOUS WAYS. NOW, WHETHER THE BRITISH WERE ACTUALLY AWARE THAT THEY...
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LEVERAGE, LEVERAGE, LEVERAGE, SLICE AND DICE SO THIN AND THEN SOLD TO US, MASQUERADING AS AN ASSET, HENCE THE RIDICULOUS TERM TOXIC ACID. WE ARE FIGHTING...
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| 00:33:04 |
HOST, -
THEMSELVES FROM COLONIALISM IN THE 19TH AND 20TH SENT RE, MAINLY THE 20TH CENTURY, PRODUCED DOCUMENTS OF THIS SORT. REMEMBER, HO CHI MINH WAS SUPPOSED...
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CERTAINLY HAD ITS IMPACT. I DON'T KNOW
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GUEST, -
THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT CERTAINLY MANIFESTS TO HAVE BEEN COMPOSED BY COUNTRIES LEAVING COLONIALISM AND SO FORTH. >> AND THEY USED THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE...
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A.D.. THE LIBERTY BELL HAS ON IT
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Unidentified Speaker, -
FROM LEVITICUS 25:10 PROCLAIM LIBERTY THROUGHOUT THE LAND TO ALL THE INHABITANTS THEREOF. AND
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WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND MR. HUTSON FELL INTO THE TRAP, WE HAVE MENTIONED OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, FOUR OR FIVE THINGS MENTIONED...
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| 00:35:28 |
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BUILDERS THAT REALLY WANTS TO
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| 00:35:31 |
GUEST, -
RESTORE -- AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT HOW HE WOULD DESCRIBE IT -- FOR THE RELIGIOUS HERITAGE IN THE
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| 00:35:38 |
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COUNTRY. BUT, AGAIN, IN THE
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| 00:35:41 |
GUEST, -
27 OR SO GRIEVANCES THAT JEFFERSON MENTIONS AGAINST THE KING OF ENGLAND, I DO NOT -- ABOUT THE ONLY ONE IN THERE THAT RELATES TO RELIGION IS AN OBLIQUE...
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| 00:37:12 |
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BACK. [CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE] [CAPTIONS COPYRIGHT NATIONAL CABLE SATELLITE CORP.
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GUEST, -
2009] >>
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HOST, -
THESE PLACES REMINDS ME OF MODERN CATHEDRALS THAT DONORS WOULD BUILD WINGS ON, HOPING THEY'D GO TO HEAVEN. >> WALTER KIRN, PRINCETON CLASS OF 1983...
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