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SHAPED THE RELIGIOUS IDENTITIES OF THESE TWO TOWERING FIGURES. THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM RUNS FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS. >> CONNIE REVIERED RECENTLY FROM NORTH...
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| 00:00:47 |
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| 00:00:50 |
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A DIGITAL DOCUMENTARY DOCUMENTARY ADDITION, WILL YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR PAPER? >> WELL, I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING EVERYBODY WHO'S MADE THIS POSSIBLE....
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| 00:01:18 |
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YOU. WEDNESDAY I WAS MAKING THE COLOR PHOTOS ON THE HANDOUT, THE MASSACHUSETTS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE ADAMS NATIONAL ...
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| 00:18:36 |
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PHILLIP HAS A LONG LIST OF ACADEMIC CREDITS. BUT THE PARTICULAR REASON HE'S ON OUR PANEL IS THAT WHEN HE WAS DOING HIS DISSERTATION AT THE UNIVERSITY...
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| 00:19:26 |
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THAT WILL ENSUE IN A FEW MINUTES. THERE ARE THREE THINGS REALLY, THINGS THAT I WOULD SET OUT TO GET THIS FRAME WORK. FIRST OF ALL, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION,...
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| 00:27:49 |
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DABBLED IS PROBABLY THE WRONG WORD -- BUT PRACTICES TEACHING HISTORY AND LAW AT VARIOUS PLACES INCLUDING GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY AND UNIVERSITY...
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| 00:28:41 |
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TREPIDATION. TOM, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. IN FACT, THE STATUTE IS DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL EFFORTS OF THE DISSENTERS, THE BAPTIST AND THE PRESS...
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| 00:36:51 |
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ALL THESE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOWING FORTH. AT THE OUTSET, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT MY PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IN OFFERING THE FOLLOWING REMARKS IS...
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| 00:57:33 |
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DOING THE RIGHT THING. THE DISSENTERS PROVIDED THE POLITICAL CLOUT. THE IDEOLOGY ON THE OTHER HAND WAS THERE BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING THAT WE'VE TENDED...
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| 00:59:04 |
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TOWN. AND I -- SIR, WILL YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> ANDREW SCHAUNESY THE DIRECTOR OF INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR JEFFERSON STUDIES. I
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| 00:59:15 |
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WOULD LIKE JUST PREFERENCE MY QUESTION
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| 00:59:18 |
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FOR THE C-SPAN VIEWERS THAT THESE PAPERS ARE DOWNLOADED AT WW.ADAMSJEFFERSON.COM. THAT'S ADAMSJEFFERSON.COM. APART FROM THE
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| 00:59:31 |
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ISSUE OF RACE AND SLAVERY, RELIGION IS THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE SURROUNDING THE FOUNDERS AND STILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE IMPORTANT DISCUSSION....
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| 01:00:40 |
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OUR RELIGION DEMANDS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. GOD ONLY WANTS A FREE-WILL OFFERING. THE FREE-WILL OFFERING MUST BE COMPLETELY...
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| 01:03:15 |
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IN THE VIRGINIA, HIS EXPERIENCE BEGINNING IN 1792 AND SORT OF SNOWBALLING INTO THE ELECTION OF 1796 AND 1800 IS THAT IF WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT YOUR RELIGION...
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| 01:05:36 |
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MEETING HOUSE WAS A PLACE WHERE THERE WERE CHURCH SERVICES ON SUNDAYS AND MIGHT BE SERVICES AS WELL FOR A FAST DAY OR A THANKSGIVING DAY. BUT THESE WERE...
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| 01:06:31 |
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THEOLOGY AND RELIGION AND THAT THEY SAW RELIGION IN MUCH BROADER TERMS THAN MEDICAL SPECULATION AND QUESTIONS OF BELIEF. AND I WOULD LIKE TO -- SORT...
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| 01:08:24 |
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PARTICULARLY TAKEN BY YAWN ADAMS' WONDERFUL ENGAGEMENT WITH -- IN A WAY THAT HISTORY OF RELIGION BUT HISTORY OF RELIGION EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. AND...
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| 01:10:49 |
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I MENTIONED IT IN MY PAPER, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING HOUSE WHERE EVERYTHING SORT OF TOOK PLACE AND I'M GLAD YOU REFERENCED THAT AS WELL. THE ENLIGHTENMENT...
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| 01:12:38 |
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I'M WITH THE PRESIDENT SEMINAR IN DENVER IN BOULDER, COLORADO. I WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP ON A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID RECENTLY. WITH WHAT...
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| 01:12:59 |
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ASK THE PANEL WHAT THEY THINK IS MEANT BY REASON IN THE MINDS OF ADAM AND JEFFERSON? IS IT PERSONAL, AUTONOMOUS? REASONING? COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF...
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| 01:13:59 |
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BEFORE THEN THAT IT MUST BE INDIVIDUAL. AND THIS IS WHY IT MATCHED SO NICELY WITH WHAT THE EVANGELICALS WERE SAYING THAT YOU MUST HAVE THIS INDIVIDUAL...
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| 01:16:06 |
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REASON THAT IN THAT WAY, IT'S STILL AN APPEAL BEYOND SOMETHING BEYOND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT ALL INDIVIDUALS SHARE. OTHERWISE IT'S A FREE-FOR-ALL. IT'S...
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| 01:16:53 |
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WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO WHAT WE WOULD SEE TODAY LOOKING BACKWARD AS SCIENTIFIC INQUIRY WOULD -- THIS WOULD FALL WITHIN THE REALM OF REASON. IT DOESN'T...
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| 01:21:11 |
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IS AN INNATE MORAL SENSE BUT ONLY THING THAT'S INNATE IN A HUMAN BEING IS THEIR ABILITY TO REASON AND THAT THAT REASON IS EXERCISED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE,...
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| 01:23:59 |
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1755. BUT WHAT I FIND EXTRAORDINARY FROM ADAMS' PERSPECTIVE IS THAT ADAMS ANNOTATES IT IN 1761, BECAUSE ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE STRIKES. AND THAT'S INTERESTING...
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| 01:26:06 |
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THIS. YOU SEE IT WHERE PRIESTLEY DEALS WITH -- FIRST TALKING ABOUT INTENT. THE SAME LANGUAGE ADAMS WILL USE WHEN HE WRITES TO LETTERS WHO PEOPLE WHO...
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| 01:27:23 |
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THINK HE WOULD BE ALMOST DUMBSTRUCK BY THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE SCIENCES AND HOW FAR WE'VE COME. IT DOES -- I MEAN TWO THOUGHTS. THE OTHER POINT ABOUT...
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| 01:29:07 |
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WONDERFUL QUOTE FROM JEFFERSON THAT SORT OF ADDRESSES YOUR ISSUE. AND ITS, JEFFERSON IS WRITING TO A CLERGYMAN WHO'S ASKED HIM ABOUT WHAT HE THINKS...
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| 01:31:11 |
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AS ITS PURPOSE. FOR JEFFERSON, RELIGION IS A PERSONAL, PRIVATE MATTER. IT'S PRIVATE AND THAT'S WHY HE CONSTANTLY RECURS TO THE NOTION THAT HE'S OPPOSED...
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| 01:33:48 |
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HIS UNION WITH THE EVANGELICALS THAT HE SAYS THE UNITARIANS ARE GOING TO WIN, WELL THE EVANGELICALS WIN. WE HAVE OTHER BOOKS ABOUT THIS RAPID DEVELOPMENT...
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| 01:35:18 |
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PAMPHLET I THINK? I AM FORGETTING THE DETAILS OF IT. MY SENSE IS THAT BOTH ADAMS AND JEFFERSON ARE QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT ENTHUSIASM. AND THERE IS A...
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| 01:36:15 |
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THE OPERATION OF
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| 01:36:18 |
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THE RATIONAL MIND. SO
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| 01:36:20 |
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BOTH JEFFERSON AND ADAMS I THINK ARE VERY CONCERNED LATE IN THEIR LIVES ABOUT THE
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| 01:36:26 |
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SPREAD OF ENTHUSIASM NOT JUST IN RELIGION BUT ALSO IN POLITICS. AND SO THIS IS SOME OF WHAT THEY ARE BEGINNING TO WORRY ABOUT AS THE 1820s JEFFERSON...
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| 01:37:42 |
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SYSTEM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENTHUSIASM TAKING OVER. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A RATIONALISTS, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY WANT THIS TO...
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| 01:38:30 |
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WE CAN SEE IN JEFFERSON'S OWN LIFE AND WRITINGS A BELIEF IN RATION RATIONAL RATIONAL
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| 01:38:42 |
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RATIONALISM CAN BE A FORM OF FAITH. >> ENTHUSIASM. >> EXACTLY AND ENTHUSIASM, YES. ALSO OF COURSE IN OUR EMPHASIS ON THE BOOKS AND THE WRITINGS,...
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| 01:39:03 |
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OF
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| 01:39:04 |
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JEFFERSON'S RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE PROBABLY OUGHT TO BE ENLARGED TO INCLUDE HIS TREMENDOUS ENJOYMENT OF PSALM SINGING. THE PSALM SINGING OF HIS CHILDHOOD,...
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| 01:42:01 |
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THAT ODD. YOU FIND,
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| 01:42:02 |
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YOU KNOW, LEVELS BELOW THAT. SAM ADAMS MORE LOCAL LEADERS, SAM ADAMS. PATRICK HENRY. OTHERS LIKE THIS WHO CLEAR -- THEY WOULD FALL UNDER SORT OF EVANGELICAL...
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| 01:42:42 |
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TRYING TO DO BY MASSACHUSETTS. RICHARD HENRY LEE. BARBER. PAIGE. PEOPLE SAY WASHINGTON SUPPORTS IT. HE DOES SORT OF AMBIVALENTLY. SO YEAH, I THINK...
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| 01:44:36 |
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WHICH THE CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH, WHICH WE SOMETIMES CALL ESTABLISHED BUT IT'S THE STANDING ORDER. IT'S LOCALLY ORGANIZED. EACH PARISH, EACH CONGREGATION,...
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| 01:46:05 |
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OF JEFFERSON'S SCHOOLMATES AT JAMES
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| 01:46:08 |
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MAURY'S LITTLE ACADEMY, AND MAURY SAYS, GEE, MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERY DAY, AND I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THIS BOLLINGBROOK. I THINK HIS SON HAD SENT...
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| 01:48:04 |
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IN A WALL OF SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND SCIENCE. IN 1815, HE RECEIVES A LETTER FROM A GUY CALLED WENDOVER. HE WRITES
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| 01:48:13 |
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THIS LONG LETTER IN RESPONSE IN WHICH HE TAKES UP THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THE CLERGY SHOULD SPEAK ABOUT POLITICS FROM THE PULPIT. AND HE SAID, WELL, THE...
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| 01:50:04 |
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HE REALIZES GOD KNOWS WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO WITH THIS LETTER, I BETTER SEND HIM THE REDACTED VERSION. HUDSON AT THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS SAID BASICALLY...
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| 01:52:11 |
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ME. TO SEE IF, IN FACT, THE ANGLICAN CLERGY ARE ADDRESSING PUBLIC ISSUES, AND IF SO, HOW ARE THEY DOING IT? THAT'S NOT REALLY AN ANSWER TO YOUR...
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| 01:53:33 |
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AND TRY TO TALK ABOUT GOD'S PUNISHMENT THROUGH THESE NATURAL EVENTS REALLY BOTHERED HIM. HE FELT A BETTER SCIENTIFIC EDUCATION WOULD HAVE HELPED....
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| 01:54:37 |
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MONTICELLO. THE OTHER ORGANIZERS OF THIS SESSION AND THIS ENTIRE CONFERENCE. BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY. MASSACHUSETTS HISTORICAL SOCIETY. AND THANKS TO...
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