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HOST, -
ANOTHER NUCLEAR TEST. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ISSUED A STATEMENT. JONATHAN BRODER, WAS THE ADMINISTRATION EXPECTING THIS? GUEST: I THINK SO. THE NORTH...
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| 00:00:39 |
GUEST, -
VIOLATION OF EARLIER U.N. RESOLUTIONS THAT PROHIBITED MISSILE ACTIVITY AND ANY ACTIVITY ON THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM. THE NORTH KOREANS REACTED EXTREMELY...
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| 00:01:28 |
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UN RESOLUTIONS AND THE MISSILE CONTROL TECHNOLOGY REGIME, AND ALSO AS A TEST OF THE NEW PRESIDENT AND REJECTION OF THE SIX-PARTY TALKS.
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| 00:01:41 |
GUEST, -
ACCORDING TO "THE WASHINGTON JOURNAL" KIM IS PLANNING HIS TRANSITION TO ANOTHER GUY WHO IS HIS BROTHER IN LAW, HAVING MARRIED HIS YOUNGER SISTER, AND...
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| 00:02:46 |
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UP AS A PRIORITY. OBVIOUSLY, OBAMA HAS MANY THINGS ON HIS PLATE. HE WAS HOPING NOT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. I THINK THIS WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE SECURITY...
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| 00:03:06 |
GUEST, -
HOST: SWITCHING TOPICS A LITTLE, IN THE WAKE OF BENJAMIN NETANYAHU'S IGNORING THE U.S. ON THE WEST BANK SETTLEMENTS, HE SAID ON SUNDAY THAT ISRAELIS...
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| 00:03:29 |
HOST, -
HALT. DID THE ADMINISTRATION EXPECT THAT? GUEST: THERE WERE THREE WORKING GROUPS ESTABLISHED IN THE SUMMIT LAST WEEKEND AND ONE WAS ON ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN...
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| 00:03:58 |
GUEST, -
FOR RECIPROCITY WITH THE SAME FORMULA THAT HE EMPLOYED WHEN HE WAS FIRST PRIME MINISTER IN 1996. IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME APPROACH NOW. HOST: JONATHAN...
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| 00:04:28 |
HOST, -
THE STATEMENT FROM "THE LOS ANGELES " IN THE PREVIOUS SEGMENT. WHO MADE THE STATEMENT REGARDING NORTH KOREA AND THE NUCLEAR TEST? HOST: WE READ THE STATEMENT...
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| 00:05:00 |
HOST, -
BOGGLES THE MIND. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY OBAMA'S APPROACH BECAUSE I KNOW THAT GEORGE BUSH DID NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT NORTH KOREA EITHER BECAUSE...
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| 00:06:44 |
HOST, -
SITUATION WITH NORTH KOREA IS COMPLICATED AND DANGEROUS. IT IS ONE THING TO SAY TO GO IN THERE AND BOMB THE BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS. WE...
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| 00:07:02 |
GUEST, -
NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR POTENTIAL. SHE MENTIONED CHINA. CHINA IS IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION WITH NORTH KOREA RIGHT ON ITS BORDER. NORTH KOREA BASICALLY...
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| 00:08:20 |
HOST, -
IS UNCLEAR AND MAYBE IT SERVES THEIR INTERESTS TO HAVE NORTH KOREA APPEARED TO BE UNSTABLE. IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT GAME CHINA IS...
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| 00:08:35 |
GUEST, -
PRESIDENT, IT IS ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WAS DOING. BUT BARACK OBAMA IS ALSO CONTINUING A POLICY STARTED BY JOHN BOLTEN, INTERCEPTING...
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| 00:09:54 |
HOST, -
LINE WAS STYLE OVER
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| 00:09:56 |
GUEST, -
SUBSTANCE. I AM HAPPY TO SEE SUBSTANCE THIS MORNING ON THIS.
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| 00:10:00 |
HOST, -
I APPRECIATE THAT THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT INDEED THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS FOLLOWING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WITH RESPECT TO NORTH KOREA. YESTERDAY'S...
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| 00:12:39 |
HOST, -
I FELT THAT GUANTANAMO SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS. I LOBBIED IN PRESENTED REASONS TO PRESIDENT BUSH. MR. DICK CHENEY IS NOT ONLY...
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| 00:13:01 |
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THE PROBLEM WAS THAT HE COULD NOT GET ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER. SECRETARIES STATE RIGHTS AND SECRETARY GATES HAD COME FORWARD WITH PLANS, BUT THOSE RAN...
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| 00:14:14 |
HOST, -
THIS IN TERMS OF EARLY DECISIONS FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION -- THERE IS NOT AS MUCH
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| 00:14:22 |
GUEST, -
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION'S ABOUT COUNTER- TERRORISM. THE POLICIES LOOK VERY SIMILAR. ON THE QUESTION OF DETENTION AND POTENTIAL UNLIMITED...
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| 00:15:38 |
HOST, -
WITH THE 240 OR SO PRISONERS IN GUANTANAMO. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE VARIOUS CATEGORIES OF PRISONERS. SOME WE WILL TRY TO SEND TO OTHER COUNTRIES....
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| 00:15:52 |
GUEST, -
THAT WILL BE IN FEDERAL COURT. THERE IS ANOTHER CATEGORY OF IN MAY THAT YOU CANNOT REALLY TRY BECAUSE PERHAPS EVIDENCE WAS TAINTED OR METHODS WERE USED...
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| 00:17:10 |
HOST, -
IS TO REWRITE THE LAW UNDER WHICH THEY OPERATE SO THAT THE ME THE SUPREME
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| 00:17:16 |
GUEST, -
COURT'S DEFINITION. GUEST: I THINK THAT THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH WAS TRULY A SPEECH DEFENDING HIS RECORD. HE DESCRIBED WHAT HE SAID WAS "WE...
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| 00:17:41 |
GUEST, -
HIGH- VALUED DETAINEES." THE COROLLARY WHICH HE DID NOT SAY IS THAT IF YOU COVER THIS WITH THIS HUGE COLLECTION FROM WHAT YOU COLLECT IN BATTLES CONCERNING...
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| 00:19:07 |
HOST, -
SOCIETY, THE FACT THAT REPUBLICANS WOULD TAKE A POSITION OF OFNO --WITH ALL THAT IS GOING ON -- THEY ARE LAWMAKERS. I HAD ANEGO ABOUT WHAT TO DO WHEN...
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| 00:21:04 |
HOST, -
FROM CITIES. THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WITH AT MARBLEDMU -- WITH ADMIRAL. GUEST: IT LOOKS LIKE THE PRESIDENT WILL STICK WITH THIS TIMELINE TO...
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| 00:21:42 |
GUEST, -
IT IS AT 2003 LEVELS. THE IRAQI SECURITY FORCES WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS, PROBABLY. HOST: SOME OF THIS VIOLENCE WAS ANTICIPATED? GUEST: THE GOAL...
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| 00:22:15 |
HOST, -
THERE WILL STILL BE OVER THERE WORKING, NOT IN THE
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| 00:22:19 |
GUEST, -
SAME ROLE AS IN THE BEGINNING OF A SURGE IN 2007, BUT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED THAT ROLE ANYWAY. BUT THE NOTION THAT THEY WILL ALL BE REMOVED -- THE...
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| 00:23:12 |
HOST, -
CALLER: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
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| 00:23:15 |
GUEST, -
I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD THE NATIONAL SECURITY AS IN THE PAST. HERE ARE EXAMPLES. 45,000 AMERICANS DIE EACH YEAR BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE HEALTH...
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| 00:23:27 |
HOST, -
WE HAVE A FREE TRADE AGREEMENT THAT SINCE SOME OF JOBS OVER TO CHINA. NOW WE'RE MOVING THE HIGH TECH BRING JOBS TO INDIA. OUR ECONOMY IS A BASKET CASE...
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| 00:24:52 |
HOST, -
AS THE MORE LEVERAGE WE HAVE IN INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS. WHILE OBAMA HAS TAKEN STEPS, EARLY
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| 00:25:00 |
GUEST, -
ONES IN HIS ADMINISTRATION BY APPOINTING SPECIAL ON VOICE OVERSEAS, HE IS REALLY NOT GOING TO HAVE AS MUCH LEVERAGE AS WE DID BEFORE SINCE THE ECONOMY...
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| 00:27:57 |
HOST, -
THE RISE OF DISEASE AND DISORDER THROUGHOUT THE WORLD BECAUSE OF THE HANDS AND LOVE OF MONEY, GOVERNMENT, AND PRIVATE, WHICH IS USED TO GATHER, UNTIL...
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| 00:29:39 |
HOST, -
GUEST: I THINK RHETORICALLY HE DISCUSSED IT ON THE CAMPAIGN BUT
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| 00:29:43 |
GUEST, -
I HAVE NOT SEEN -- HAVE YOU, JONATHAN? GUEST: THE APPROPRIATIONS BILLS ARE BEING WRITTEN RIGHT
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| 00:29:50 |
HOST, -
NOW. MY SENSE IS THAT OBAMA WILL CONTINUE THE MONEY FOR AIDS. THAT WAS COMING TO BUSH'S CREDIT, ONE OF THE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
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| 00:30:01 |
GUEST, -
AND I SEE NO SIGN THAT OBAMA IS GOING TO DISCONTINUE THAT. GUEST: THAT SUCCESS --
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| 00:30:09 |
GUEST, -
AND I THINK IT IS EXCESS OF THE BUSH OF THE STATION -- WAS REALLY MADE POSSIBLE ALSO BECAUSE DRUG COMPANIES THAT WERE MAKING THE ADVANCED ANTI-VIRAL...
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| 00:30:29 |
GUEST, -
AFRICA. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT AFRICA AND OTHER THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES COULD NOT EVER GET MONEY TO AFFORD THE DRUGS WHEN THEY WERE UNDER PATENTS....
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| 00:31:01 |
HOST, -
WHERE WE DO PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE WITHOUT ALWAYS KICKING IT TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL. BEYOND THAT, TWO OTHER POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. I HAVE READ...
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| 00:32:35 |
HOST, -
THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOT ONLY UNDER RIGHT WING LIKUD GOVERNMENTS, BUT UNDER LABOUR
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| 00:32:44 |
GUEST, -
GOVERNMENTS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT IN THE BEGINNING WHEN THESE TERRITORIES WERE FIRST CONCERT, -- CONCORD, ISRAEL OFFERED THESE TERRITORIES IN RETURN FOR...
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| 00:34:28 |
HOST, -
TO WITHHOLD AID. NOW, AND WITHIN
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| 00:34:33 |
GUEST, -
ISRAEL ITSELF, THE POLITICAL BLOC THAT SUPPORTS THESE SETTLEMENTS AT LEAST RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT IS STRONGLY ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN BRING DOWN...
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| 00:36:42 |
HOST, -
WHAT I CALLED ISLAMIST SUPREME SCHISM OR THE TALIBAN SYMPATHIZERS. IT HOST: WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT. GUEST: PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INTELLIGENCE...
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| 00:36:55 |
GUEST, -
THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN RIFE WITH SYMPATHIZERS. THE U.S. MILITARY DOES NOT HAVE MUCH OF A SENSE OF WHAT GOES ON IN THE PAKISTANI MILITARY...
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| 00:37:11 |
GUEST, -
TO THE MID RANKS OF THE INSTITUTIONS YOU HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE MORE SYMPATHY WITH THE ENEMY THAN THEY DO WITH THE UNITED...
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| 00:38:13 |
HOST, -
ZONES, WHERE THE CEASE-FIRES HAVE ALLOWED FOR WHOLE RULE AND WHOLE ROLE HAS BEEN TALIBAN, AL QAEDA-SOME BATHETIC GOVERNMENTS.
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| 00:38:22 |
GUEST, -
RECENTLY THE SITUATION HAS GOTTEN SO DESPERATE WITH THE TALIBAN ADVANTAGE IN THE SWAT VALLEY THAT YOU WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE AN OF MOTIVATION FOR THE...
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| 00:39:06 |
HOST, -
CALLER: THE FACT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TORTURE, OR WHO KNEW WHAT ABOUT TORTURE, WHEN DICK CHENEY PUBLICLY ADMITTED WE DID USE TORTURE, HE IS A WAR CRIMINAL....
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| 00:39:23 |
HOST, -
GEORGE W. BUSH AND THEIR POLITICAL OPERATIVES HAVE STOLEN OUT OF THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE NOT ONLY WAR CRIMINALS BUT THIEVES. BACK TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE...
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| 00:40:20 |
HOST, -
THE 1960'S WHEN THE U.S. USED TO SOLVE NATIONAL GROUPS AND VIETNAMESE MILITARY
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| 00:40:24 |
GUEST, -
TO GO TOWN TO TOWN TO FIGHT, TO FIND IT QUITE BRUTALLY ROOT OUT ANY NUMBERS THAT WERE BELIEVED TO BE PART OF THE VIET CONG AND PART OF THE SABOTAGE PLANS...
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| 00:42:07 |
HOST, -
WHY YOU ARE SEEING SO MUCH OF THIS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE THE
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| 00:42:11 |
GUEST, -
IMPRESSION IN ANY WAY THAT HE IS SCOPING UNDER THE DESK AND AFRAID TO FACE THE RECORD. I COMPARE HIM TO COLONEL JESS IT IN A FEW GOOD MEN -- AT THE END...
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| 00:43:03 |
HOST, -
ABSOLUTELY ASSERT -- UPSURGED. TALKING ABOUT THE KOREAN ISSUE WITH THE UNITED NATIONS, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN IN. THE UNITED NATIONS ACTUALLY MAKES PROBLEMS...
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| 00:43:44 |
GUEST, -
WOULD JUST MAKE IT WORSE. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE MEDIA'S SLOBBERING LOVE AFFAIR WITH -- AND I AM USING A BOOK TITLE -- IT TRULY...
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| 00:44:54 |
HOST, -
THE WHITE HOUSE, THE STATE DEPARTMENT, IS CONTACTING THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE TO SEE WHETHER THEY WILL GO ALONG WITH AN EMERGENCY MEETING, TO SEE HOW...
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| 00:45:13 |
GUEST, -
THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE WERE RELUCTANT TO GO ALONG WITH A SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION, AND THE CONDEMNATION THAT CAME OUT IN THE END OF THE MISSILE...
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| 00:46:06 |
HOST, -
OR THE NEEDS TO BE MORE EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST, THAT STATES LIKE NORTH KOREA THAT CLEARLY ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ITS PEOPLE AND ALLOWED HUNDREDS
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| 00:46:14 |
GUEST, -
OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO STARVE AND CANNOT EVEN FULFILL ITS BASIC NEEDS, ARE SUSCEPTIBLE OR THAT WHOLE AND OF SECURITY COUNCIL CENSURE AND SANCTION...
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| 00:47:21 |
HOST, -
IS SERVING US NO PURPOSE. WE DID NOT TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN HOME AND THE PEOPLE HERE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO FIRST, TAKE CARE OF...
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| 00:47:56 |
HOST, -
EXAMPLE, THE F-22 FIGHTER. WE ALREADY HAVE 183 OF THAT -- 123 OF THE PLANES.
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| 00:48:05 |
GUEST, -
THEY WERE DESIGNED TO FIGHT A COLD WAR BATTLE OF DEEP PENETRATION OF SOVIET DEFENSES. IT IS INTERESTING AS GATES POINTS OUT THAT NONE OF THESE PLANES...
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| 00:50:18 |
HOST, -
SECTORS, WIDE AND NATIONAL DEFENCE? HOST: BLOOMINGTON, INDIANA. CURTIS.
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| 00:50:28 |
GUEST, -
CALLER: EXISTING YOU TALK ABOUT WEAPONS. THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO BE THE NUMBER-ONE EXPORTER OF WEAPONS APPEARED -- WEAPONS. WE ARE ENCOURAGING A...
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| 00:50:45 |
HOST, -
IT SEEMS LIKE OUR NUMBER ONE MISSION IN AFGHANISTAN IS TO HAVE STRATEGIC POSITIONS NEXT TO CHINA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP. AFGHANISTAN IS RIGHT NEXT TO...
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| 00:51:52 |
HOST, -
AMERICAN PRESENCE THERE. PART OF THE ISSUES TO STAND A DEMOCRATICALLY
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| 00:51:56 |
GUEST, -
ELECTED GOVERNMENTS. THE IRONY HERE IS THAT THE BAD WORD, -- THAT WAR, IRAQ, YOU WERE MORE LIKELY SEE AN IRAQI GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD WELCOME AND EXTENDS...
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| 00:52:35 |
HOST, -
SUPPORTING THE TALIBAN, AND WORRY AFGHAN GOVERNMENT. THIS HAPPENS IN THE LEAST, IT HAPPENS IN DIPLOMACY. SORT OF A WAY, I THINK PROBABLY
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| 00:52:51 |
GUEST, -
SAYING, STOP TRYING TO DESTROY THE GOVERNMENT. HOST: THIS COMES ON THE HEEL OF THE SIDE OF THE MEETING WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA. GUEST: IT ALSO SHOWS THAT...
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| 00:53:18 |
HOST, -
TO SHOW THAT THE PROBLEMS IN THE REGION CAN BE SOLVED LOCALLY OR CAN BE
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| 00:53:24 |
GUEST, -
ADDRESSED LOCALLY -- MAYBE NOT SOLVED, BUT ADDRESSED LOCALLY, AND WE DO NOT NEED THE WEST INTERFERENCE. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT I THINK OF A IRANIANS TO SUPPLANT...
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| 00:54:05 |
HOST, -
OPPONENTS SAID THE CONTEST THAT WAS LARGELY MEANINGLESS IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE OF THE NEW POWERS OF THE
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| 00:54:11 |
GUEST, -
PRESIDENCY WAS ALSO FIXED AND THAT HE HAD STOLEN BOTH REALMS AND HE WAS THE PREFERRED
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| 00:54:17 |
GUEST, -
CHOICE OF THE SUPREME LEADER AND THAT IS WHY THE VOTES SORT OF LIGHT OF THE WAY THEY DID. HOST: " THE WASHINGTON POST" REPORTS IRANIAN OFFICIALS ARE...
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| 00:54:46 |
HOST, -
HOST: VIDALIA, GEORGIA. GOOD MORNING TO ROBERT. CALLER: I VERY QUICK
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| 00:54:55 |
GUEST, -
QUESTIONS -- I HAVE TWO VERY QUICK QUESTIONS. GIVEN THE UNITED STATES IS A GOOD DEBATE THE ONLY REMAINING WORLD SUPERPOWER, DID THE CHINESE AND RUSSIANS...
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| 00:55:09 |
HOST, -
OF NORTH KOREAN AND ACTUALLY IN IT SECRET ACTUALLY DERIVE PLEASURE DILUTING IT WITH THE RESOURCES IN TRYING TO HANDLE THE SITUATION? AND THE BIGGEST BONE...
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| 00:56:33 |
HOST, -
STATE THAT IS LOOKING LIKE ONE -- I THINK THAT IN SOME WAY IS THE CLEAREST MESSAGE, THAT OBAMA WILL BE THERE. I THINK HE WANTS TO MEET ANYONE WHO IS...
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| 00:56:47 |
GUEST, -
EGYPT, YOU CANNOT ARGUE, IT IS THE MOST IMPORT COUNTRY THERE. HOST: AND THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT BE VISITING IS WRONG ON THAT TRIP? GUEST: I DON'T THINK...
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| 00:57:16 |
HOST, -
STATES, RUSSIA, AND CHINA, I AM SURE THERE IS A LITTLE
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| 00:57:19 |
GUEST, -
BIT OF
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| 00:57:23 |
HOST, -
SCHADENDFREUDE OVER THE SITUATION IN NORTH KOREA HAS CREATED FOR OBAMA.
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| 00:57:29 |
GUEST, -
BUT I WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT NORTH KOREA GEOGRAPHICALLY IS A LOT CLOSER THAT TO CHINA AND RUSSIA THAN IT IS TO THE UNITED STATES. AND BOTH OF THOSE COUNTRIES,...
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