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1:15. >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB AND TO ANOTHER EDITION OF THE KELB REPORT, I'M MARVIN KELB. DOWN TO THEHE WIRE, JOURNALISM IN ...
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IS IN CRISIS. WHAT DO THE MAJOR NEWSPAPERS HAVE IN COMMON, "CHICAGO TRIBUNE," THE L.A. TIMES, THE MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE, AND THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER?...
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WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO COME FROM, AND WE HAVE TWO STREAMS OF REVENUE, SO WE ARE FORTUNATE IN THAT RESPECT, BUT I THINK THAT THE REAL CHALLENGE...
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ALBERTO, YOUR VIEWS? >>
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I AGREE THAT THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEM WITH THE BUSINESS MODEL IS REVENUE, BUT THE BIGGER CONCEPTUAL MODEL WHICH IS VERY HARD IF YOU COME FROM FRA DISSIONAL...
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SHIFT OF A NEWS CONSUMER TO A NEWS
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USER. THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO SIT AND READ THE NEWSPAPER OR WATCH TV WERE FROM A I WRITE/YOU READ OR A I READ/YOU WRITE, AND THAT MENTALITY. THE CONSUMER...
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TO GET AT IS HOW DO WE TAKE TO REPRESENT
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SOME STRONG BRANDS AND SUCCESSFUL AUDIENCE STORIES IN THE CASE OF NPR, AND VERY, VERY STRONG LISTENING AUDIENCE AND KNOWING THAT AUDIENCE AND USING...
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| 00:07:39 |
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HAVE HAD FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS OF DOUBLE-DIGIT PROFIT GROWTH. DOUBLE-DIGIT GROWTH IN PROFIT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND YES, LIKE EVERYBODY, WE WILL...
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THAT WE ARE BETTER INSULATED AGAINST THAT BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE REVENUE STREAMS, AND BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO SELL SUCCESSFULLY ACROSS
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THE
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PLATFORMS. SO WE, YEARS AGO BEGAN TO SELL TELEVISION BUNDLED WITH THE INTERNET AND ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE 73 MILLION VIEWERS WATCHING US ON...
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| 00:08:39 |
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MODE. >> OKAY. TOM CURLY.
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HOW DO YOU HANDLE IT? >> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO FACE IS THAT THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR PRINT FOR THE LAST CENTURY IS GONE. THAT IS THAT WE HAVE RELIED...
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OF CABLE, AND CNN, AND GET MORE MONEY, MORE REVENUE FROM SUBSCRIBERS AND FROM USERS
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AND VIEWERS. THAT IS A BIG CHANGE. ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS, THE ADVERTISING EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN THROUGH FOR MUCH OF THE LAST CENTURY...
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THINKING ABOUT
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HOW YOU DELIVER NEWS AND INFORMATION TO COMMUNITIES IN AN EFFECTS TIFF AND SHARED WAY, 5, 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, AND THINK THAT YOU NEED TO BEGIN NOW...
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LISTENERS LIKE YOU AND I SUPPORT ALL OF YOU TO ENCOURAGE YOUR LOCAL PUBLIC RADIO STATION, AND THAT IS
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DOING WELL. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER PEOPLE NEED TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL PUBLIC RADIO STATION, AND THAT IS DOING PRETTY WELL. THE NEXT...
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GO ABOUT THAT PART OF THE BUSINESS. >>
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| 00:12:40 |
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JOHN KLINE, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU HAVE STARTED SOMETHING THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO A WIRE SERVICE OR IN THE MIDST OF THAT KIND OF ADVENTURE, AND TELL...
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PRESS. WE COULD NOT MATCH THE VAST REACH AND THE FAR CORNERS OF THE EARTH THEY CAN TOUCH, AND THE EXPERTISE, HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE CERTAIN AREAS IN WHICH...
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PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE NEWSPAPERS, TV STATIONS ESPECIALLY THAT HAVE BEEN INTERESTED. >> AND THE NEWSPAPERS -- >> WELL, WE WANT TO SEE WHETHER WHAT...
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| 00:13:40 |
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CONVERSATIONS WITH NEWSPAPER
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EDITORS AND TELEVISION STATION OWNERS AND RADIO STATION OWNERS TO SEE WHAT NEEDS DO THEY PERCEIVE OUT THERE, AND WHETHER THERE IS A MATCH WITH THAT....
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JUST HAVE TO SORT OF SHAPE THE PRODUCT
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TO FIT THE NEEDS OF
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POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS. >> TOM, ASSOCIATE PRESS, DO
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| 00:14:22 |
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YOU REGARD WHAT CNN IS ATTEMPTING TO LAUNCH A DIRECT THREAT, CHALLENGE TO THE AP? >> NO, MARVIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP VERY EARLY THESE DAYS TO...
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| 00:14:42 |
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PROSPECTTIVE COMPETITORS OUT, THERE AND IF THEY TAKE A COUPLE OF STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION, SURE. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT WE HAVE 1,000 BI-LINE STORIES EVERYDAY
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| 00:14:51 |
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FROM THE UNITED STATES, AND IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO REPLICATE THAT. THE CHALLENGE FOR US IS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SOLE GENERAL INTEREST NEWS AGENCY...
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| 00:15:58 |
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CASH FLOW IN EXCESS OF $80 MILLION, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE WILL BE DOWN. WE HAVE GIVE-BACKS WE HAVE DONE FOR THE NEWSPAPER INDUSTRY AND...
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| 00:16:13 |
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WERE STILL AT ABOUT $80 MILLION, SO WE HAVE BEEN
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AT RECORD LEVELS FOR US, AND WE HAVE NO DEBT, AND WE ARE IN GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION, AND WE HAVE ABOUT $35 MILLION IN THE BANK, SO WE ARE OKAY. >>...
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CIRCUMSTANCE
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WHERE NEW TECHNOLOGY DWINDLING REVENUES MIGHT MAKE THE AP A PASSING ENTERPRISE? >> NO. [ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT IF YOU COULD -- >> [ LAUGHTER ] >>
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| 00:16:50 |
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THE DEMAND FOR CONTENT IS VERY, VERY STRONG. WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE STILL GROWING. THEY ARE NOT GROWING -- THEY WERE GROWING IN DOUBLE-DIGITS...
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TV AND
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LOCAL RADIO IS
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STRUGGLING, AND WE REALLY SHOULD PAUSE THOUGH FOR A SECOND HERE AND SAY,
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| 00:17:13 |
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WE ARE NOT THE ONLY INDUSTRY SUFFERING, AND AS BEST I CAN TELL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BANKRUPTCY ATTORNEYS, EVERYBODY IS GOING THROUGH A VERY MISERABLE...
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OUR FOUNDATION SPONSORED
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THE SHORTY AWARDS WHICH IS FOR
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THE BEST USE OF TWITTER IN TELEVISED CONVERSATIONS, AND IN 20
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DIFFERENT
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CATEGORIES. >> DO ALL OF THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES ADD TO THE QUALITY OF GOOD JOURNALISM? >> OF COURSE THEY
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| 00:18:36 |
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DON'T ANYMORE THAN EVERY STORY THAT WAS EVER PUBLISHED OR EVERY RADIO PROGRAM, YOU CANNOT SAY THEY ALL ADDED TO THE QUALITY. SOME OF THEM ARE IRRESPONSIBLE...
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| 00:18:51 |
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WE DO ABOUT IT WITH THE IRRESPONSIBLE ONES? >> I THINK THE SAME THINGS AS WITH
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| 00:18:57 |
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NEWSPAPERS, YOU DON'T READ THEM OR BUY THEM AND EVENTUALLY PEOPLE FIGURE OUT A WAY OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY TRUST AND WHAT THEY DON'T. WE GAVE A GRANT...
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| 00:19:12 |
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THE FELLOW WHO INVENTED THE WORLD WIDE
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| 00:19:16 |
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WEB, WROTE THE CODE FOR IT. HE IS CONCERNED THAT THE WEB SHOULD REMAIN FREE AND UNIVERSAL. HE THINKS THAT THE MOST, THE GREATEST DANGER TO A FREE...
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| 00:20:40 |
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OF
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ATTENTION. ATTENTION RATHER THAN INFORMATION BECOMES THE
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SCARCE RESOURCE.
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| 00:20:47 |
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THOSE WHO CAN DISTINGUISH VALUABLE INFORMATION FROM BACKGROUND CLUTTER GAIN POWER, END QUOTE. HOW IN YOUR VIEW SHOULD ONE BEGIN TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN...
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| 00:21:34 |
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YOU LISTEN CONSTANTLY AND AFTER A WHILE, YOU GET THE IMPRESSION THAT IT IS ALL CLUTTER, BUT WHAT YOU SHOULD BE GETTING IS SOME NEWS IN THERE AS WELL....
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| 00:21:50 |
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THE PUBLIC
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WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE
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CLUTTER AND GET TO WHAT IS SUBSTANTIVE? GET TO WHAT IS NEWS? GET TO WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM TO MAKE UP THEIR MINDS ABOUT THIS COUNTRY? >> I THINK...
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| 00:22:03 |
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IS
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A LACK OF TRUST OR A LACK OF TRUST IN THE INTELLIGENCE AND THE DISCERNING POWER OF THE AUDIENCE. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT MOST OF THE LISTENING, VIEWING,...
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| 00:22:22 |
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WILL SELF-SELECT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED ONLY IN SALACIOUS MATERIAL OR THE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF COMING OUT WITH...
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| 00:23:40 |
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I THINK IT IS A BIG TENT AND PEOPLE HAVE VORACIOUS APPETITES AND ESPECIALLY ON THE
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| 00:23:45 |
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WEB, USERS ARE PROMISCUOUS IN THE USAGE AND THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT. SO NO, THERE IS NOT BAD CONTENT THERE. IS BAD CONTENT PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING...
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OF TRUST TODAY, AND I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP? >> WELL, ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> WHY? >> THERE IS NO QUESTION. WELL, IT HAS BEEN POLITICIZED FOR ONE THING, AND...
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| 00:24:42 |
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IT WOULD TAKE HOURS
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| 00:24:43 |
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OR DAYS TO GET SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE CAN
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| 00:24:46 |
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GET THROUGH SOME OF THE SOURCES THAT VIVIAN MENTIONED IN LITERALLY SECONDS OR MINUTES, SO THAT THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE NATURE OF THE REPORTS ARE SO...
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| 00:25:00 |
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THAT IT CAN GO AROUND THE WORLD IN SECONDS, MOST OF THE TIME IS BETTER, ESPECIALLY IF
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| 00:25:03 |
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THE REPORT IS ACCURATE, SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BETTER, BUT CLEARLY, THE TRUST, THE IDENTIFICATION, THE FATHER KNOWS BEST MENTALITY THAT GUIDED...
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| 00:25:46 |
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DEMOCKKDEMOCKTIZATION OF JOURNALISM. >> IT COMES FROM YOUR LIPS AND SOUNDS PERFECT. >> IT HAS A LOT
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| 00:25:58 |
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OF POTENTIAL AND WE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF IT, BUT WE SHOULD EMBRACE IT AND FIND OUT HOW TO BRANDS LIVE IN THAT VIFRMT I WOULD HAVE BEEN SCARED 12...
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| 00:26:16 |
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IN TROUBLE, BECAUSE THE PREMISE UP
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| 00:26:19 |
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UNTIL THEN IS THAT YOU CAN GET THE NEWS THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT THE WEB MADE THE NEWS AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHEREVER YOU HAPPENED TO BE AS LONG...
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| 00:27:19 |
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WE HAVE HERD INSTINCTS AND MAKE
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MISTAKE, BUT WE ARE
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| 00:27:26 |
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ENDEAVORING TO DO A
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| 00:27:28 |
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MORE COMPREHENSIVE JOB. >> HOLD ON, ALBERTO. I WANT TO REMIND
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| 00:27:36 |
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YOU THAT THIS IS THE MARVIN KALB REPORT AND DISCUSSING THE STATE OF JOURNALISM WITH
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| 00:27:43 |
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JON KLEIN AND TOM CURLEY OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND VIVIAN AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. >>
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| 00:27:55 |
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WELL, WHETHER IT WAS BLACKS OR WOMEN OR HISPANICS WHO WERE NOT WRITTEN BY IN THE 1960s PARTICULARLY BY WOMENS OR BLACKS OR HISPANICS NOW HAVE ACCESS...
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| 00:28:16 |
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THAT THE YOUNGER THE NEWS USER, THE MORE LIKELY THAT PERSON IS TO TRUST SOMEBODY HE OR SHE KNOWS, AND SO, THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE POPULARITY...
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| 00:29:02 |
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ON TO AN OLDER AUDIENCE. AM I CORRECT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. >> I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ABSORBED WITH THIS, AND HOW SUCCESSFUL ARE YOU, JON, WITH...
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| 00:29:26 |
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WHO ACCESS THEIR NEWS
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| 00:29:28 |
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WIRELESSLY, WE ARE AMONG THE VERY TOP CHOICES, AND NOW THAT
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| 00:29:31 |
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IS A NASCENT MARKET, AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO KEEP THE FOOTHOLD, BUT BOY, THAT WAS A NICE
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| 00:29:37 |
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REVELATION WE DISCOVER AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A STRATEGY TO ENSURE THIS, BUT IT HAPPENED THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH PROBABLY OR FAMILIARITY OF THE BRAND ON...
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| 00:30:31 |
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ARE JUST COMING OUT TODAY FROM LAST FALL, WE ARE AT RECORD NUMBERS, AND SO WE ARE MOST DEFINITELY DELIVERING THE
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| 00:30:38 |
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RADIO AUDIENCE WHAT THEY WANT.
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| 00:30:40 |
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OVER 27 MILLION PEOPLE TUNE INTO NPR PROGRAMMING EVERY WEEK. IT IS EXTRAORDINARY. >> DO YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE AGE? >> THE AVERAGE AGE
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| 00:30:48 |
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IS IN THE UPPER 40s. >> DO YOU CONSIDER THAT OLD OR YOUNG? >> WELL -- [ LAUGHTER ] -- WELL, IT DEPENDS AND ABOUT ON PAR FOR THE MEDIAN AGE FROM MY...
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| 00:31:06 |
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THE CABLE NEWS
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| 00:31:09 |
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MEDIAN AGE BY A DECADE. THE
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| 00:31:11 |
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AGE IS NOT RISING, BUT
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| 00:31:13 |
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PEOPLE ARE AGING INTO THE MEDIAN MEDIAN, AND THAT IS FINE. IF THE MEDIAN AGE WAS RISING THEN I WOULD THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT THE FACT IS THAT PEOPLE...
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| 00:32:21 |
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I THINK SO. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT -- HOW MANY CAR CRASHES AND FIRES HAVE
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| 00:32:30 |
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YOU EVER LOOKED AT IN LOCAL TELEVISION NEWS? I'D SAY YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T LOOK AT IT, BUT THE PERCENTAGE -- IF YOU HAD LOOKED AT THEM ALL, THE PERCENTAGE...
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| 00:32:40 |
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HIGH. SO AS TOM
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| 00:32:42 |
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WAS SUGGESTING, NOT EVERYTHING WAS GOLDEN, NOT EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT BACK THEN. I THINK AS EVER, WE REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT, WE NEED TO FIND SIGN...
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| 00:34:20 |
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| 00:34:21 |
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CASE. BUT THAT'S A SHAME, BECAUSE THE
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| 00:34:25 |
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NEWSPAPERS ARE IN THIS MELTDOWN STATE RIGHT NOW THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF A LOT OF THE UPBEAT STUFF WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO UP TO THIS POINT ON THIS...
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| 00:35:48 |
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JOURNALISM. YOU KNOW, JOURNALISM, IT'S NOT REALLY A PROFESSION, IT'S AN OBSESSION. IT'S NOT REALLY AN OCCUPATION, IT'S A PREOCCUPATION. THE PEOPLE WHO...
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| 00:35:58 |
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NOT HAVE. >> WE WOULD TOO HAVE. HOW MUCH DID YOU GET
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| 00:36:00 |
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PAID FOR YOUR FIRST JOB? WE GOT PAID DIRT. NOTHING. BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE JUST LOVE IT SO MUCH. AND THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST...
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| 00:36:18 |
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TO FIRE ANYBODY IN THE LAST YEAR? >>
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| 00:36:19 |
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SURE. >> HOW MANY? >> FORTUNATELY, NOT THAT MANY. IT'S CLOSE TO SINGLE DIGITS, ACTUALLY. >> REALLY? >> YEAH. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE NORMAL PROCESS...
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| 00:36:38 |
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THAT WITH
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| 00:36:39 |
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WHERE WE NEED TO BE MOVING
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| 00:36:40 |
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FORWARD. >> WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE MEDIA THAT ARE LOSING
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| 00:36:46 |
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JOBS LEFT AND RIGHT?
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| 00:36:48 |
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YOU PICK UP A NEWSPAPER ON ANY
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| 00:36:50 |
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GIVEN DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO READ ABOUT X NEWSPAPER HAVING FIRED X NUMBER OF PEOPLE. >> I WANT TO TAKE A SLIGHTLY COUNTER POINT OF VIEW TO JON'S. HAVING...
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| 00:37:02 |
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STILL FEEL "THE NEW YORK TIMES" IN MY BLOOD STREAM AND PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL, I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO LET GO OF A LOVE OF NEWS PRINT. I THINK THAT THAT...
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| 00:37:16 |
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STILL DO, READ THE NEW YORK TIMES IN PRINT EVERY DAY, BUT I GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DINOSAUR. BUT I DO AGREE WE NEED TO LET THAT GO. BUT WHAT NEWSPAPERS...
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| 00:38:38 |
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THINGS, WHO HAD DIFFERENT SETS OF BELIEFS, AND THIS IS ALSO PART OF WHAT -- OF WHAT A NEWSPAPER USED TO DO. AND IT WAS A SHARED -- IT HELPED TO SHARE...
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| 00:39:58 |
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WIND." AND AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. AND IF YOU AT CNN OR FOX OR MSNBC SPEND AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON...
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| 00:41:10 |
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MASQUERADING AS NEWS, WE LOOKED
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| 00:41:16 |
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AROUND, WE SAID,
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| 00:41:17 |
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BOY, THEY'RE CALLED NEWS CHANNELS BUT A LOT OF THESE SO-CALLED NEWS CHANNELS AREN'T COVERING WHAT IS THAT IMPORTANT OR BOTH
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| 00:41:25 |
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KNOWING. WHAT IF WE WERE TO FILL THAT NICHE AND COVER THE REAL NEWS? WELL, P.S., YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A WHILE TO LINE YOUR TROOPS UP BEHIND THAT. BECAUSE...
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| 00:42:49 |
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THAT BONDING INFORMATION? WHO IS GOING TO PROVIDE
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| 00:42:53 |
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THE INFORMATION WHERE DEMOCRACY ACTUALLY LIVES, WHERE YOU ACTUALLY ARE STRUCTURING -- HAVE STRUCTURED THE DEMOCRACY? AND THAT'S MY POINT ABOUT, FOR...
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| 00:44:04 |
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NEWSPAPERS GET THINNER,
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| 00:44:05 |
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NOT JUST LITERALLY THINNER, BUT
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| 00:44:06 |
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THINNER IN CONTENT, WHERE YOU COME UPON A SITUATION WHERE ABC NEWS STRIKES A DEAL WITH THE BBC TO COVER IRAQ, FOR EXAMPLE, AND OTHER PLACES IN THE MIDDLE...
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| 00:44:53 |
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NO, YOU CAN'T SIT HERE AND BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S GOING
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| 00:44:57 |
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ON. BUT IT'S ALSO NO TIME TO CRY WOLF AND UNDULY PUNISH OURSELVES. THERE ARE SOME TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES IN THE COVERAGE AREA. WE HAVE EXPANDED INTERNATIONAL...
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| 00:45:15 |
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ELSEWHERE. WE TAKE OUR DUTIES AND OUR MISSION EVEN MORE SERIOUSLY THAN WE DID BEFORE. >> OH, SURE. >> NOW ON THE STATE COVERAGE AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL,...
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| 00:45:42 |
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| 00:45:43 |
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FAIL TO COVER, IF WE MAKE BAD DECISIONS, I HAVE CONFIDENCE GOING BACK TO WHAT VIVIAN SAID EARLIER, THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO FILL IT IN. IT'S NOT GOING...
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| 00:46:19 |
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ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE -- YOU START TO SEE IT HAPPEN ON THE STATE LEVEL. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE NEWS. THEY ARE ENGAGING WITH NEWS IN A WAY THAT...
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| 00:46:29 |
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DECADES. WE'RE SEEING IT
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| 00:46:31 |
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AT ALL LEVELS. LOCAL, STATE, NATIONAL AND
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| 00:46:33 |
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INTERNATIONALLY. AND IF WE MAKE THE WRONG DECISIONS, THOSE GAPS WILL BE CLOSED. NOT OVERNIGHT, NOT EXACTLY IN THE SAME WAY. BUT I ALSO NEED TO PAUSE...
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| 00:48:07 |
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I DON'T THINK THERE'S NEARLY ENOUGH MONEY. I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE KIND OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT THAT TOM WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. I DO THINK...
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| 00:48:24 |
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LIKE THE ETHICS AND EXCELLENCE IN JOURNALISM FOUNDATION, CARNEGIE IS INVOLVED IN SOME EXTENT, FORD IS INVOLVED, AND McARTHUR IS INVOLVED TO SOME EXTENT...
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| 00:50:19 |
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IS THAT OUR AUDIENCE IS COMPOSED OF A LOT OF YOUNG, ASPIRING REPORTERS. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THEM CERTAIN
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| 00:50:27 |
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THINGS BASED ON YOUR OWN
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| 00:50:30 |
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EXPERIENCE. START WITH YOU, VIVIAN. WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU COULD POINT OUT TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT YET IN THE BUSINESS BUT LOOKS TOWARD...
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| 00:51:03 |
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OLD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT DELIVERY METHOD IS GOING TO BE. I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S TRUE. WE ARE. WE NEED YOU GUYS TO FIGURE IT OUT, AND SO WE NEED...
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| 00:51:51 |
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IS GOING TO DEMAND THOSE VALUES ARE PRESERVED BECAUSE THEY DEMAND ACCURACY ABOVE ALL ELSE. THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE READING OR WATCHING OR...
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| 00:52:11 |
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MEAN, YOU'LL PROBABLY GET PAID BUT IT'S WHAT KEEPS ME GOING EVERY DAY IS THAT I LOVE IT. IT'S JUST SO MUCH FUN AND EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT, AND YOU HAVE...
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| 00:52:53 |
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PROFESSION. BUT I ALSO THINK OUR
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| 00:52:55 |
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PROFESSION
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| 00:52:56 |
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IS GOING TO UNDERGO SOME ENORMOUS GROWTH AFTER WE GET SO THROUGH THIS VALLEY. SO I WOULD NOT GIVE UP ON
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| 00:53:06 |
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IT. I THINK JON IS RIGHT. YOU DO NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO EAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. AND YOU MAKE NO BONES ABOUT IT. THE NEXT COUPLE...
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| 00:53:43 |
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I GO THROUGH THE AIRPORT IN MIAMI, WHICH IS EVERY WEEK, I THINK ABOUT WHAT MY OLD
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| 00:53:48 |
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| 00:53:49 |
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NEWSPAPER "THE
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| 00:53:50 |
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MIAMI HERALD" DID TO EXPOSE CORRUPTION, TO SHOW THE KINDS OF PROBLEMS WE WERE HAVING BACK AT THAT POINT, AND I THINK NOT ONLY IS IT FUN, NOT ONLY IS...
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| 00:54:49 |
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BE RECOGNIZED? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AS JOURNALISM. I THINK FIGURING OUT THE TRUTH IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. >> IT DEPENDS...
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| 00:54:59 |
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THIS. >> I KNOW WHAT I CONSIDER THAT. BUT IN ANY
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| 00:55:06 |
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CASE. >> ALL THE VIDEO YOU NEED RIGHT HERE. >> OUR
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TIME IS UP. YOU'VE HEARD THAT PHRASE
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BEFORE. >> I WANT TO THANK, FIRST
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| 00:55:14 |
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OF ALL, OUR WONDERFUL AUDIENCE. YOU'VE REALLY BEEN TERRIFIC BUT MOST IMPORTANT I WANT TO THANK OUR PANELISTS WHO HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY SPLENDID IN DEFENDING
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| 00:55:22 |
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YOUR POINT OF VIEW. JON
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| 00:55:28 |
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CLINE, ALBERTO IBARGUEN, I'M MARVIN KALB AND TO ALL OF YOU OUT
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| 00:55:34 |
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THERE WHO STILL CHERISH A FREE PRESS AND A FREE SOCIETY, STICK TO IT, FIGHT FOR IT, GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,...
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| 00:56:19 |
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QUESTION, KEEP IT BRIEF BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF. ASK A QUESTION STARTING HERE ON THE LEFT, PLEASE. >> OKAY....
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| 00:56:48 |
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SUSTAINABLE FOR THE NEWS INDUSTRY, BUT
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| 00:56:50 |
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| 00:56:51 |
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FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE GO GO OF IT AS REPORTERS I FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE
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| 00:56:58 |
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AN ACTOR WHOS WATCHED REALITY STARS TAKE OVER
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| 00:57:01 |
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PRIMETIME TV, THEY DON'T DO IT AS WELL AS WE DO, BUT THEY DO
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| 00:57:05 |
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IT FOR FREE. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
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| 00:57:07 |
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PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A GO OF IT AND HOW DOES THE FUTURE LOOK FOR US? >> OKAY, VIVIAN, YOU START. >> DON'T GIVE UP. THE BAD NEWS IS YOU'RE GOING TO...
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| 00:57:33 |
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THERE ARE SO MANY NEW
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| 00:57:34 |
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ONLINE OUTLETS THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO BE A WORKING JOURNALIST ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR TRAINING PRETTY QUICKLY. SO YOU COULD BEGIN...
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| 00:58:09 |
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OF MONKS WHO READ THE BIBLE AND
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| 00:58:12 |
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THEN YOU'VE GOT ALMOST ANYBODY CAN READ ALMOST ANYTHING IN BETWEEN AND POINT WISE THAT HISTORIANS TEND TO FOCUS ON WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE AND THEN...
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| 00:59:30 |
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VETERAN. AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO STILL FEEL THAT THAT THE NEWS IS REPRESENTED THROUGH A PRISM
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| 00:59:44 |
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AS REPRESENTED BY THIS AUDIENCE? >> REPRESENTED
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| 00:59:47 |
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BY -- >> AS REPRESENTED BY THE MAKEUP OF THIS AUDIENCE -- >> WHAT ARE YOU TRY TO SAY? >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT MUCH OF THE NEWS THAT IS COMING...
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| 01:00:07 |
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TARGETED LENSES RATHER THAN REAPING OUT TO BE
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| 01:00:10 |
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MORE INCLUSIVE AND REPRESENT AND TELL THE STORY OF OTHER --
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| 01:00:15 |
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IN
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| 01:00:16 |
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A MORE POSITIVE VEIN RATHER THAN THOSE GUTS AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE FIRE AND THE HAVOC THAT'S GOING ON RATHER THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL....
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| 01:00:49 |
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ALWAYS HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION, ARE WE ALL IN THE ROOM? ARE WE -- DO WE ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE STORIES WE'RE TELLING, THE PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING ...
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| 01:01:01 |
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IN AMERICAN JOURNALISM, THE ANSWER WAS NO. AND I THINK THAT'S TRUE WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICANS, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT...
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| 01:02:12 |
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THIS PHILANTHROPIC ELEMENT OF JOURNALISM WHERE IT'S NOT SEEN AS A BUSINESS MODEL BUT ALMOST COMMUNITY SERVICE. >> JON, TAKE A CRACK AT IT. >> WAS...
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| 01:02:41 |
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HEAR, I'M SURE PREDGE
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| 01:02:42 |
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DRIVES WHICH I'M SURE IS YOUR FAVORITE TIME OF THE YEAR FOR LISTENING BUT IT'S
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| 01:02:46 |
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AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE MODEL AND THAT ALSO TRANSLATES
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| 01:02:50 |
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ONLINE. YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM FOR FUND JOURNALISM. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE COMPLETE PICTURE BUT IT HAS SERVED US WELL, AT LEAST IN NONCOMMERCIAL...
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| 01:03:35 |
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AGAGGLOMERATING ENOUGH DOUGH
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| 01:03:37 |
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FOR A BIG HONKING, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL. >> YES, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS A.R. HOGAN, A SCIENCE JOURNALIST WHO IS A JOURNALIST AND DOCTORAL...
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| 01:04:02 |
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EMERGED. WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS
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| 01:04:04 |
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WHAT WILL FUTURE HISTORIANS DO AND THE WIDER PUBLIC WITHOUT THIS RICH CONTEMPORANEOUS COVERAGE OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO LIVE THROUGH THESE TIMES SO WE...
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| 01:04:48 |
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IS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT IT HAS BEEN
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| 01:04:50 |
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HISTORICALLY. THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE EXPANDING. SO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC IS THERE AND THE PUBLIC IS FUND A LOT OF THIS. I ALSO WANT TO POINT...
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| 01:06:05 |
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QUANTITY? HOW MUCH GROWING ROOM
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| 01:06:07 |
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DO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE DOING AND HAVING SOME JOB SATISFACTION AND CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE DOING QUALITY WORK WE WE NEED TO BE LEARNING THESE NEW MEDIA?...
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| 01:06:40 |
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HAVE, WE HAVE OUR RADIO
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| 01:06:41 |
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PROGRAMS BUT WE WANT TO USE THE BRAIN POWER AND THE TALENT AND KNOWLEDGE OF OUR REPORTERS TO ALSO FEED OUR WEBSITE, TO CREATE TEXT PIECES FOR OUR WEBSITE,...
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| 01:07:53 |
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LIKE TO FORGIVE ME, I'VE GOT TO ASK A QUESTION. YOU'RE A WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE TRYING TO COVER THE NEWS. AND IT'S HARD TO DO....
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| 01:08:12 |
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TO DO THE PIECE FOR THE MORNING NEWS OR ALL THINGS CONSIDERED IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT ALL OF THESE OTHER PLATFORMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHEN DOES...
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| 01:08:57 |
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PROBLEM. >> YES, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS ANN LIKO. I'M PROBABLY THE CONSUMER OF
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| 01:09:02 |
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A LOT OF YOUR NEWS AND SOMEONE
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| 01:09:04 |
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WHO HAS BEEN A SUBSCRIBETORY
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| 01:09:06 |
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MULTIPLE NEWSPAPERS, WATCHES TELEVISION AND I KNOW FROM GOING AROUND THE COUNTRY PARTICULARLY IN CAMPAIGNS A MINORITY BY A LONG SHOT OF AMERICANS. I...
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| 01:09:17 |
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OUR GREAT NEWSPAPERS. BOTH
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| 01:09:20 |
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FOR THE DEPTH AND THE BREADTH OF THE NEWS THAT THEY DO. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSS OF ALL THOSE EDITORS THAT ARE UNDERAPPRECIATED INCLUDED THE...
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| 01:09:53 |
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POST" AND OTHERS. >> ASK YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE. >> WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE
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| 01:09:57 |
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NEWS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NEWS, THE HEADLINES ON RADIO AND TELEVISION ALL COME FROM ARE THE FRONT PAGES OF OUR NEWSPAPERS AND WITHOUT THAT IN THE...
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| 01:10:14 |
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ISSUES AND THE VALUES. WHAT IS GOING
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| 01:10:16 |
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TO REPLACE THAT WITH THESE LITTLE. >> WE'RE WITH YOU. >> I TRIED TO ASK THAT QUESTION FOR AN HOUR. ALBERTO, YOU TRY AND ANSWER IT AGAIN. >> AND FOR...
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| 01:10:39 |
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REFERENCED.
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| 01:10:40 |
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I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT AS A NATIONAL, I THINK YOU'RE ALSO PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT PLACE WHERE PEOPLE BID ON A STORY AND SUPPORT...
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| 01:10:48 |
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STORY. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING WAY FOR LOCAL NEWSPAPERS TO DO LOCAL REPORTING. WE'RE GOING TO FIND IT OUT. WE HAVE TO BECAUSE...
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| 01:11:28 |
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BEIJING NOWADAYS, THEY WERE EYEING ON THE WESTERN MEDIA AS SOME
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| 01:11:33 |
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INVESTMENT OPTIONS. AND IF YOU WERE SOME CEOs OR BOARD MEMBERS OF A TROUBLED FINANCIALLY DIFFICULT MEDIA HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WOULD YOU CONSIDER...
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| 01:12:11 |
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WE OWN SOME WESTERN MEDIA. >>
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| 01:12:12 |
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IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM, BUY THEM. >>
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| 01:12:14 |
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IN THE SPECIFIC CASE OF CNN, WE'RE
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| 01:12:16 |
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PART OF A BIG MULTITUDE NATIONAL CONGLOMERATE CALLED TIME WARNER SO IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLEX DISCUSSION THAN YOU THINK. NO ONE CAN BUY CNN UNLESS TIME...
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| 01:12:28 |
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AN ASSET BUT WE'RE HIGHLY PROFITABLE FOR
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| 01:12:31 |
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THEM AND KIND OF
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| 01:12:33 |
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THE JEWEL IN THE CROWN SO THAT'S NOT LIKELY
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| 01:12:35 |
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TO HAPPEN. BUT WHO'S TO SAY THAT SOME FOREIGN ENTITY COULDN'T SCOOP UP A DOMESTIC. >> THERE ARE SOME RULES. BUT -- >> DEPENDING WHAT THEY ARE. >> WE...
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| 01:13:03 |
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AGO. AND
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| 01:13:04 |
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IT IS VERY
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| 01:13:05 |
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POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE CAN COME IN WHO BELIEVES IN NEWSPAPERS AND SEES A MODEL AND SEES THAT MAYBE AS A TELECOMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY WHERE THERE ARE...
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| 01:13:57 |
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OFF. SO I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE, MY FUTURE AS A VIDEO JOURNALIST. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT
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| 01:14:05 |
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SKILLS, WHAT SPECIFIC CAREER
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| 01:14:06 |
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PATH WOULD LOOK BEST ON MY RESUME OR WHAT PATH I SHOULD TAKE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO WOULD LIKE TO ATTEMPT...
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| 01:14:30 |
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JON SAID EARLIER, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT MOMENT AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WEEK. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANY OF
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| 01:14:37 |
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TO US PLAN. ANYONE WHO'S RUN AGORGANIZATION TODAY GETS UP AND ASKS, HOW MUCH CASH IS IN THE BANK. WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. AND THINGS ARE THAT TOUGH....
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YOU.
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.