| 00:00:1211 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, good morning, everyone. We welcome you all here. We're delighted to welcome Senator Clinton, secretary of State- designate. I think... |
| 00:11:3512 min. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Mr. Chairman, I congratulate you on taking the gavel. We wish you every success. And we appreciate the very gracious you have made about... |
| 00:24:251 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I thank you, Senator Lugar. And let me just say that, for the record, first of all, the attachment will be made part of the record... |
| 00:26:114 min. |
Dodd, Christopher "Chris" J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Connecticut
Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. And I apologize to my colleagues, but as we're in the midst of all of this, it's sort of a New... |
| 00:30:181 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you, Senator Dodd, for those warm and generous comments, and we appreciate it. And we very much look forward, obviously, to working... |
| 00:31:233 min. |
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Chelsea, for sure. (Laughter.) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And it is a true honor to be here. I want to thank you and Ranking Member Lugar,... |
| 00:35:1316 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Schumer, and I know we need to excuse you post-hug -- (laughter) -- to go about other duties, and I know that... |
| 00:35:297 sec. |
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Mr. Chairman, it is, as Chris Dodd mentioned, a New York day, and I have to go introduce Shaun Donovan at the -- (Cross talk.) |
| 00:35:36 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
We understand that. Thank you so much. |
| 00:35:364 sec. |
Schumer, Charles E. - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you, colleagues. I appreciate it very much. |
| 00:35:4012 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, Madame Secretary-designate, we are, again, really delighted to welcome you here and we look forward to your testimony and have a chance... |
| 00:35:5233 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and as he's leaving I want to thank Senator Schumer for that generous introduction, and even more for... |
| 01:09:423 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, thank you very much, Senator, for a very comprehensive and thoughtful statement. And I can tell you from certainly this senator's... |
| 01:13:151 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And obviously, the incoming administration views with great concern the role that Iran is playing in the world,... |
| 01:15:0310 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Do you believe that tougher U.N. sanctions are available from which to choose? And secondly, are they achievable? |
| 01:15:131 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
You know, it's kind of like the experimenter's bias, in a way. We won't know what we're capable of achieving until we're actually there... |
| 01:16:4059 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I happen to agree with you that it is in fact legitimately impossible to be able to determine exactly what options are available until... |
| 01:17:3948 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, the president-elect has said repeatedly it is unacceptable. It is going to be United States policy to pursue diplomacy, with all of... |
| 01:18:2715 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
The Bush administration sent Undersecretary Burns to the last round of those talks essentially as an observer. Do you plan to send a U.S.... |
| 01:18:421 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Mr. Chairman, we are looking at a range of possibilities. One very important aspect of the decisions we make is that we engage in consultation... |
| 01:19:589 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Do you plan personally to engage in personal diplomacy with Iranian officials at a high level in the near term? |
| 01:20:0753 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, again, Mr. Chairman, I want to wait to determine the exact contours of how we proceed until we're actually in office and have a chance... |
| 01:21:0049 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I know you've been very careful about that, and I think it's been appropriate and I think it a wise course. And I look forward to... |
| 01:21:4913 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Again, Mr. Chairman, these are matters that are part of our policy review, and we will turn to them with great diligence and attention as... |
| 01:22:024 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I hope the question establishes some sense of |
| 01:22:06 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) |
| 01:22:062 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
-- priority. |
| 01:22:08 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
I think I got your drift, Mr. Chairman. |
| 01:22:083 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Senator Lugar. |
| 01:22:115 sec. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Mr. Chairman, could you recognize Senator Corker -- |
| 01:22:16 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Yes, absolutely. |
| 01:22:16 |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
-- and then Senator Feingold? |
| 01:22:16 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
You want to do that? |
| 01:22:165 sec. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Yes. |
| 01:22:21 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much. I'd be delighted to do that. |
| 01:22:21 |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
So he can expedite his work. |
| 01:22:214 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you so much. Senator Corker. |
| 01:22:25 |
Corker, Bob - U.S. Senator, [R] Tennessee
Thank you, Senator Lugar. I appreciate that. And Chairman Kerry, I'm glad you're going to be leading us here. I think you're the right... |
| 01:22:25 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) |
| 01:22:253 min. |
Corker, Bob - U.S. Senator, [R] Tennessee
-- and has a real job. And certainly we welcome your daughter. Along the comments of -- and I think you have tremendous opportunities.... |
| 01:26:133 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Corker, this is to me one of the most important questions, because we can talk about all of the good work we'd like to do... |
| 01:29:2732 sec. |
Corker, Bob - U.S. Senator, [R] Tennessee
We have a maze of aid efforts that are underway. Every senator that travels and sees some need, authorizes another aid program. I wonder... |
| 01:29:593 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, in fact, Senator, that's going to be one of the responsibilities that will be given to this second deputy under my direction -- to... |
| 01:33:12 |
Corker, Bob - U.S. Senator, [R] Tennessee
Thanks. |
| 01:33:123 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Corker. Senator Feingold. |
| 01:33:1522 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and, of course, my warm congratulations to you on your new position. I look forward to working closely with you... |
| 01:33:37 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
(Off mike.) Without objection -- (inaudible) --. |
| 01:33:371 min. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
I am very pleased that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has been nominated to be secretary of State. She's an excellent choice for our most... |
| 01:35:152 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, thank you very much. And this is a primary priority, as you know, of the incoming administration. The president-elect, Secretary... |
| 01:38:1354 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Thank you, Senator. Let me turn to another topic that we covered. You've been an outspoken advocate of U.S. action to stop genocide in Darfur... |
| 01:39:071 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Senator, again, this is an area of great concern to me, as it is to the president-elect. We are putting together the options that we think... |
| 01:40:5454 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Thank you very much. Obviously you and the president-elect recognize the importance of our efforts in Afghanistan, and given the serious... |
| 01:41:482 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
There will certainly be such a policy review. It is the highest priority of the president-elect. He has put forth what he calls the more-for-more... |
| 01:43:56 |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Thank you, Senator. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
| 01:43:564 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you, Senator Feingold. Senator Lugar. |
| 01:44:002 min. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Senator Clinton, the Albanians informed the United States in the summer of 2004 that they saw some suspicious... |
| 01:46:283 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Lugar, I don't think there is a more important issue that confronts the incoming administration. And your leadership and inspiration... |
| 01:50:252 min. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Well, this is very good news. And in a visit that I had with Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia and Mr. Kiriyenko of Rosatom in mid-December,... |
| 01:52:551 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Lugar, I think once again you're demonstrating your far-sighted, realistic understanding of security threats, because I agree... |
| 01:54:04 |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Great. |
| 01:54:041 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
We've had individual envoys on specific pipeline issues, but we haven't brought it all together in a way that I think reflects the elevated... |
| 01:55:13 |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Thank you very much. |
| 01:55:135 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thanks very much, Senator Lugar. Senator Boxer. |
| 01:55:185 min. |
Boxer, Barbara - U.S. Senator, [D] California
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Clinton, I'm so excited to see you here today! As you know, I was very much in favor of your saying yes... |
| 02:00:384 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, you have been such a leader. And I have been honored to be your colleague and your partner in a number of these efforts that... |
| 02:04:4550 sec. |
Boxer, Barbara - U.S. Senator, [D] California
Well, I couldn't have asked for a better answer. I wanted to note, Mr. Chairman, that even the most conservative historians have said that... |
| 02:05:35 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you. |
| 02:05:351 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Senator Boxer, thank you. Thanks for that important line of inquiry. And let me just say that Senator Boxer has talked to me personally... |
| 02:06:485 sec. |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
VOINOVICH (R-OH): One of the reasons why I'm not running is I want to devote my full time to these historic problems that we have. |
| 02:06:53 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
There you go. |
| 02:06:533 min. |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
And how we handle them during the next two years will have a great impact on the future of our country and the world. First of all, I want... |
| 02:10:381 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, first, Senator, I thank you for your emphasis on workforce issues, management issues, better utilization of resource issues. That's... |
| 02:12:331 min. |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
Yeah. One of the things that I'm concerned about is the turf. And you've got Susan Rice going to the United Nations. She's going to become... |
| 02:14:03 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Right. |
| 02:14:0319 sec. |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
But it seems to me that we ought to really raise the issue of energy independence in terms of our national security, and also being able... |
| 02:14:222 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, the president-elect and I could not agree more with your point of view. It's one of the reasons why the president-elect has talked... |
| 02:16:2242 sec. |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
Well, I hope that because the cost of gasoline has gone down that we're all just going to sit back like we did in 1973 and just said, "Everything... |
| 02:17:0436 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I think the chairman, who's had a longstanding interest in this, knows that as we move toward Copenhagen and attempt to craft a climate... |
| 02:17:40 |
Voinovich, George V - U.S. Senator, [R] Ohio
Thank you. |
| 02:17:405 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator. Senator Nelson. |
| 02:17:455 min. |
Nelson, Bill - U.S. Senator, [D] Florida
Senator Clinton, I have just a couple of questions. But I want to say at the outset that this senator thinks that your husband's Clinton... |
| 02:22:502 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Nelson, you've covered a number of important issues, and let me start with your question about Latin America. I have a lot... |
| 02:25:10 |
Nelson, Bill - U.S. Senator, [D] Florida
His name is Bob Levinson. |
| 02:25:102 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
That's right. And, you know, Senator, on contractors, this is going to be a big issue for this committee. We have seen the abuses by contractors,... |
| 02:27:106 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you, Senator Nelson. Senator Murkowski. |
| 02:27:162 min. |
Murkowski, Lisa - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And welcome to you, Senator Clinton. Thank you for your leadership, for your willingness to step forward and assume... |
| 02:29:392 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
And, Senator, it's very timely that one has been raised because, as I have said to you before -- and even when you and your husband hosted... |
| 02:31:57 |
Murkowski, Lisa - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
So were the people of Point Barrow. |
| 02:31:5758 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) So were the people of Point Barrow. I mean, look on the map, it's the northern-most place in the United States, and it's not a... |
| 02:32:552 min. |
Murkowski, Lisa - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
So, will ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty be a priority for you? Yes, it will be. And it will be because it is long overdue,... |
| 02:35:212 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Senator, I've had several lengthy conversations with Secretary Rice, who has brought me up to date on the status of the Six-Party Talks.... |
| 02:37:258 sec. |
Murkowski, Lisa - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for your, again, willingness, and your great capacity in this effort. Appreciate it. |
| 02:37:3324 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you, Senator Murkowski. Let me just say to you, and to others interested, that we are already -- I've talked to Senator Lugar about... |
| 02:37:57 |
Cardin, Benjamin "Ben" L. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
Well, first, Senator Kerry, let me tell you how proud all of us are to serve on this committee, particularly with you as our chairman. We're... |
| 02:37:57 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) |
| 02:37:573 min. |
Cardin, Benjamin "Ben" L. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
-- and your entire family. I know it was a difficult decision. I know how much you loved being a senator from New York. And we just thank... |
| 02:40:572 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Cardin, it's been an honor to serve on the Helsinki Commission and I know you have not only a long- standing interest but... |
| 02:42:591 min. |
Cardin, Benjamin "Ben" L. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
And we will -- that's one of the highest priorities for us to evaluate how we can modernize the Helsinki Commission and the OSCE process... |
| 02:44:091 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, as you know there is a -- an office in the State Department -- Population, Migration, and Refugees. It's our intention to... |
| 02:46:051 min. |
Cardin, Benjamin "Ben" L. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
Well, thank you very much for that answer. Many of us have been asking you questions on energy. Energy is a huge issue internationally and... |
| 02:47:2243 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Very creative suggestion, Senator, and we should look at the models of countries that have handled their mineral wealth to the advantage... |
| 02:48:055 sec. |
Cardin, Benjamin "Ben" L. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
Thank you very much. I look forward to working with you. Thank you. |
| 02:48:10 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you. |
| 02:48:101 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thanks a lot, Senator Cardin. Let me just say that given the time here we're going to have two more rounds -- two more questioners before... |
| 02:49:1811 sec. |
DeMint, James "Jim" - U.S. Senator, [R] South Carolina
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Senator Lugar. And Mr. Chairman, I would like to submit for the record a longer list of questions that I will not... |
| 02:49:297 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Now, fine, but we are going to try to proceed forward so we'll try to get those answered in the next 24 hours for you, Senator -- |
| 02:49:36 |
DeMint, James "Jim" - U.S. Senator, [R] South Carolina
Thank you very much. |
| 02:49:366 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
-- because we do have a business meeting scheduled for -- for Thursday. |
| 02:49:422 min. |
DeMint, James "Jim" - U.S. Senator, [R] South Carolina
Thank you. Senator Clinton, congratulations on your nomination. I appreciate your call. It's amazing what a little communication can do... |
| 02:52:344 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, I appreciate very much your posing this question because I think it's a real opportunity for us if we can figure out how... |
| 02:56:591 min. |
DeMint, James "Jim" - U.S. Senator, [R] South Carolina
Thank you. I can see I'm not going to get to too many of my questions but just a couple of concerns and one last question. Just as... |
| 02:58:452 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I think that the absolute bottom line for any agreement or undertaking by the United States government is that it has to be, in our... |
| 03:01:053 sec. |
DeMint, James "Jim" - U.S. Senator, [R] South Carolina
Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
| 03:01:087 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Let me just shock your troops by telling you that, unfortunately, we have to -- in order to move forward -- close the record by 12 noon... |
| 03:01:15 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Okay. |
| 03:01:157 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
So we'll get the Starbucks out tonight. Look at those smiles over there! |
| 03:01:223 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Don't look too closely, because they haven't had a lot of sleep. |
| 03:01:25 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
I'm confident. |
| 03:01:253 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
They're not looking too alert today. |
| 03:01:2842 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
What we're going to do is Senator Menendez will close out the morning questioning and then we'll come back. Senator Isakson, you'll lead... |
| 03:02:103 min. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to start off by saying, Senator Clinton, I appreciate the significant voluntary steps that go above and... |
| 03:05:263 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, you have my commitment that it will be pursued vigorously. It is an area that I care deeply about. It is where, you know, much of... |
| 03:09:122 min. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
We look forward to working with you on that. Let me just touch on specific areas, and then I hope not to give you any questions at the end... |
| 03:11:4715 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Senator, we will be looking very closely at those and other challenging issues with the eye of moving forward and being effective in responding... |
| 03:12:023 sec. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
I look forward to supporting your nomination. |
| 03:12:051 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you, Senator Menendez. Thank you, Senator Clinton, for a good morning of testimony. You've displayed one of the assets necessary for... |
| 03:13:4347 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
The hearing will come back into order. And I apologize to everybody, particularly to our colleagues who were here on time. Senator Isakson,... |
| 03:14:30 |
Isakson, John "Johnny" - U.S. Senator, [R] Georgia
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. And Chelsea -- Chelsea, you should know that your mother and I had a conversation in my office. She's... |
| 03:14:30 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) |
| 03:14:301 min. |
Isakson, John "Johnny" - U.S. Senator, [R] Georgia
Senator Clinton, it's a pleasure. I want to commend to you -- this is not really a question, just a statement, but I have the highest regard... |
| 03:16:071 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Senator Isakson, I couldn't say it any better. I certainly do agree. In order to protect and defend the United States of America, to advance... |
| 03:17:3430 sec. |
Isakson, John "Johnny" - U.S. Senator, [R] Georgia
In the presidential debate, I watched both sides, ours and yours. And there was a significant debate over foreign policy and over the issue... |
| 03:18:041 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I certainly do, as does the president-elect. I think that his commitment to vigorous and effective diplomacy is in the context of... |
| 03:19:371 min. |
Isakson, John "Johnny" - U.S. Senator, [R] Georgia
You quoted George Marshall at the end of your remarks in saying that sometimes our enemies are not the nations or doctrines, but they are,... |
| 03:20:571 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, I appreciated, when I spoke with you, your commitment to Africa and your making it a priority of the service you've performed... |
| 03:22:131 min. |
Isakson, John "Johnny" - U.S. Senator, [R] Georgia
My last question. If you asked the average Georgian what's the one thing they have the most consternation about, it's how much money we... |
| 03:23:251 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I think that has been an important contribution to the foreign aid debate by this administration, most manifest with the Millennium... |
| 03:24:345 sec. |
Isakson, John "Johnny" - U.S. Senator, [R] Georgia
Well, I appreciate your willingness to serve and I wish you the best of luck in your tenure. Thank you. |
| 03:24:39 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you. |
| 03:24:394 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Isakson. Senator Casey. |
| 03:24:432 min. |
Casey, Bob - U.S. Senator, [D] Pennsylvania
Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. And I want to commend you on the new leadership position that you take, and we're grateful for your service. Senator... |
| 03:26:512 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Casey, it's a tremendous honor for me to be working with Secretary Gates. He has a very long history of service in our country... |
| 03:29:491 min. |
Casey, Bob - U.S. Senator, [D] Pennsylvania
Well, we want to support you in that objective - in meeting that objective. And I do want to commend you - we had a discussion the other... |
| 03:31:132 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Casey, I know you expressed to me your deep concern about this and your desire to get very involved in helping us craft an... |
| 03:33:131 min. |
Casey, Bob - U.S. Senator, [D] Pennsylvania
And I know it. One more question we --- in the time I have. We spoke a little bit the other day about the challenge that Pakistan presents... |
| 03:34:152 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well as I stated in my opening remarks, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Middle East, remain on the forefront of the challenges that the... |
| 03:36:193 sec. |
Casey, Bob - U.S. Senator, [D] Pennsylvania
Thank you very much. |
| 03:36:222 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Casey. Senator Vitter. |
| 03:36:243 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and congratulations on your new chairmanship. |
| 03:36:27 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much. |
| 03:36:272 min. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
And thank you, Senator Clinton, for all of your public service including being open to this very challenging position. Like a lot of folks,... |
| 03:39:032 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well Senator, I appreciate your concern and your question. And I recognize that these are unique circumstances, to say the least. I am very... |
| 03:41:046 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Mr. Chairman, I have no objection listening to this, but I'd like it not to come out of my time because I'd like to pursue these questions. |
| 03:41:109 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I guess -- I mean it's fair to say that if you ask a question, you deserve an answer, and the answer traditionally comes out of the... |
| 03:41:194 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Well, I'm still waiting for the answer -- I'd love an answer, but if there's an answer to my -- |
| 03:41:234 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I think you need to give the Senator an opportunity to give you answer, and if you need additional time -- |
| 03:41:2733 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Well, let me repeat the question which is would you support and help produce a new MOU that requires the same sort of disclosure for contributions... |
| 03:42:0029 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I think that the MOU and the other undertakings that have been worked out between the president-elect and the transition and the foundation... |
| 03:42:2947 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Okay. Well if you could consider that suggestion, I think that's a big gap in the MOU that moving forward, the Clinton Global Initiative... |
| 03:43:168 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
All contributors will be disclosed, and all contributors to the Clinton Global Initiative are disclosed in public as is now anyway. |
| 03:43:242 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Okay. But that changes under the MOU. |
| 03:43:26 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
No -- |
| 03:43:2622 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
No, I think -- if I could just interrupt, Senator, I think you, if you look at the MOU and you look at the subsequent questions that were... |
| 03:43:48 |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
To the foundation? |
| 03:43:4812 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
That's the foundation. But in addition, it's my understanding that the -- under the MOU the CGI additionally, if there are contributions,... |
| 03:44:00 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
That's right. |
| 03:44:0028 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Okay. I'm very happy to hear that. That's not what's in the MOU, so if I could simply request before our vote a -- a document or an amendment... |
| 03:44:2824 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well Senator, I believe that all the answers that are relevant to these inquiries are in the record. There is no intention to amend the... |
| 03:44:52 |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
All right. |
| 03:44:5217 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
-- you know, the money of any donors to put on the Clinton Global Initiative are public and there is no ongoing, you know -- foundation... |
| 03:45:0938 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Well that would be great if you can clarify it. Again, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but under the MOU as it stands, there is no required... |
| 03:45:471 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well again, you know, this is an agreement that has been worked out between all of the parties and the fact is that the concerns that were... |
| 03:47:207 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Well again, I'd love for that to be embodied in any agreement that's at issue, so I'll look forward to that. |
| 03:47:2755 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well Senator, can I just -- this won't come out of your time but let me make sure the record is clear here. As I understand it, abd I think... |
| 03:48:2212 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
But for instance, there could be foreign national contributions which, within the four corners of this agreement, are not disclosed, not... |
| 03:48:344 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well I think the Senator has appropriately said that they'll answer that in the addendum. |
| 03:48:382 min. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
Well I look forward to that, as well as the old contributor issue because it just talks about new contributors. Again, let me back up and... |
| 03:51:002 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Vitter. Senator Webb? |
| 03:51:0218 sec. |
Webb, James "Jim" H. - U.S. Senator, [D] Virginia
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Clinton, I've had the pleasure of having sat through this entire hearing today. I'm not sure you have found... |
| 03:51:20 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) |
| 03:51:205 sec. |
Webb, James "Jim" H. - U.S. Senator, [D] Virginia
It's nice to have Senator Shaheen on my left to, you know, finally have somebody I'm a little -- |
| 03:51:25 |
Shaheen, Jeanne - U.S. Senator, [D] New Hampshire
(Inaudible.) |
| 03:51:256 min. |
Webb, James "Jim" H. - U.S. Senator, [D] Virginia
-- that's right. (Laughs.) And I'm very impressed by the range that you have shown here on a wide variety of issues that have been thrown... |
| 03:57:442 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Webb, as always, you are not only eloquent but extremely useful in your quick summary of all these issues because every one... |
| 04:00:231 min. |
Webb, James "Jim" H. - U.S. Senator, [D] Virginia
Well, thank you. Our military does great things, and I think you and I both feel strongly about that. We just want to make sure that it... |
| 04:01:36 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you, Senator. |
| 04:01:364 sec. |
Webb, James "Jim" H. - U.S. Senator, [D] Virginia
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
| 04:01:4017 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you, Senator Webb. Senator Lugar. We're going to start the second round now for Senator Lugar. It'll be the first round... |
| 04:01:576 min. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Senator Clinton, in my statement this morning, I said the core of the problem that I perceive with regard... |
| 04:08:374 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Lugar, I know that you come at this issue in good faith, as I do, and I agree that these are matters that have to be handled... |
| 04:13:071 min. |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Well, my time is concluded. Let me just say that the situation is unprecedented, which is the first lady and her distinguished husband and... |
| 04:14:2015 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
I do, and I respect you so much, Senator, and I can certainly guarantee to you that I will remain very sensitive to this and I will work... |
| 04:14:35 |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
| 04:14:3525 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Lugar. Let me take a moment to welcome Senator Shaheen. This is her first official formal appearance with the... |
| 04:15:002 min. |
Shaheen, Jeanne - U.S. Senator, [D] New Hampshire
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I am very honored to be able to serve on this prestigious committee with you and Senator Lugar, and as... |
| 04:17:232 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator Shaheen, welcome to the Senate and welcome to this committee. I think your joining this body will be an incredible addition,... |
| 04:20:0060 sec. |
Shaheen, Jeanne - U.S. Senator, [D] New Hampshire
Thank you. The second question is related somewhat and it deals with trade. We have a company in New Hampshire -- and forgive me for being... |
| 04:21:001 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I don't know anything about that specific case -- we will look into that and educate ourselves about it -- but more generally, I think... |
| 04:22:15 |
Shaheen, Jeanne - U.S. Senator, [D] New Hampshire
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
| 04:22:155 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator. Senator Barrasso. |
| 04:22:2016 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and congratulations, Senator Clinton. We've worked together on the Superfund Committee you chaired, and... |
| 04:22:36 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you very much, Senator. |
| 04:22:3630 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
Senator Shaheen apologized for being parochial. I'll be a little parochial, because the people of Wyoming, as I travel around, want to make... |
| 04:23:062 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, I appreciate very much your interest in these issues, and I have enjoyed my relationship with you since you arrived in the... |
| 04:25:4111 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
Well, consider yourself invited. And the second question they'll ask is -- when you come is about management reform at the United Nations... |
| 04:25:521 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, this is another priority of the president- elect and I know you'll be speaking with the permanent representative to the U.N. designee... |
| 04:27:0238 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
Moving on to Iran -- and I know you've addressed it, reading your article in Foreign Affairs -- you said if Iran is in fact willing to end... |
| 04:27:401 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, there is a policy review that is being undertaken by the incoming administration. We are still being briefed by the outgoing... |
| 04:29:3720 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
Thank you. Could I shift a little bit to Cuba? As you know, right now we have strict laws and regulations limiting economic transactions... |
| 04:29:571 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Senator, the president-elect is committed to lifting the family travel restrictions and the remittance restriction. He believes, and I think... |
| 04:31:3735 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
I appreciate some of the comments you made earlier about the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty and working with that and I know you're working... |
| 04:32:121 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, I think that's a very good point. You know, the history of arms control with first the Soviet Union and then Russia I think it's fair... |
| 04:33:214 sec. |
Barrasso, John A. - U.S. Senator, [R] Wyoming
Thank you, Senator Clinton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My time is expired. |
| 04:33:2530 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator. I'll take a round now and then -- I see Senator Feingold is here. I don't know if there are any other folks... |
| 04:33:5554 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Thanks so much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for your patience, Senator Clinton. Just a couple other topics. You and I discussed Somalia and... |
| 04:34:4913 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Senator, as you and I discussed, Somalia is strategically located. I think it was you who asked me if I knew how far Yemen was from Somalia... |
| 04:35:02 |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
I didn't know. I'd ask my staff, but -- |
| 04:35:02 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
(Laughs.) |
| 04:35:023 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
-- was quite surprised to learn it was 20 miles. |
| 04:35:052 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Twenty miles. And so the idea that Somalia is just failed state, somewhere over there where people are fighting with one another over heaven... |
| 04:37:27 |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Exactly. |
| 04:37:271 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
So, I think that this is going to require an enormous amount of thought. Now, complicating it, as you well know, is the piracy issue. There's... |
| 04:38:403 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
I can tell you're eager and very ready to take this on -- |
| 04:38:43 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Yes, indeed. |
| 04:38:4338 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
-- but, I look forward to working with you. Let me switch to something completely different. There's widespread recognition of the need... |
| 04:39:2135 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Senator, this issue was brought to my attention during the transition. I've asked to have more briefing on it because I think that... |
| 04:39:562 sec. |
Feingold, Russell "Russ" - U.S. Senator, [D] Wisconsin
Thank you, Senator. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. |
| 04:39:587 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much. Thanks, Senator. We're sort of getting to that point now where I think we can address some loose ends, and maybe even,... |
| 04:47:003 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Mr. Chairman, I think that your cautions are extremely well taken. There is, as you know, a review going on right now under the direction... |
| 04:50:361 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I really appreciate that. I don't expect you to be able to lay out that strategy now. I would say that I think it's important, perhaps,... |
| 04:52:3311 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Yes. The president-elect does support the legislation that you were part of and Vice President-elect Biden, and I think Senator Lugar was... |
| 04:52:44 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Correct. |
| 04:52:4454 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
And we want to try to begin to some extent to separate our military aid from our nonmilitary aid. The tripling of the nonmilitary aid is... |
| 04:53:3812 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
And this is going to take a very significant hands- on effort, as I think you know. We've been obviously reading about or hearing about... |
| 04:53:5042 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, no final decisions have been made. That is a tool that I think you'll see more use of. I believe that special envoys, particularly... |
| 04:54:3214 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
You know -- I just noticed Senator Vitter is back. I don't want to -- I've gone over my time a little bit because we were sort of in a wrap... |
| 04:54:4619 sec. |
Vitter, David - U.S. Senator, [R] Louisiana
(Off mike.) SEN KERRY: Okay, fine. I was stunned in India, Pakistan and Afghanistan to learn that our principal diplomats in that... |
| 04:55:0550 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Right. Right. Well, Mr. Chairman, these are among the challenges that we intend to take on: trying to create more of a regional perspective... |
| 04:55:55 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Wonderful. |
| 04:55:5529 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
-- so that they can be encouraging that. I've been reading up on George Marshall, who made it clear he didn't ever want a memo longer than... |
| 04:56:242 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I'm delighted to hear you say that. And I think that's exactly -- doing it through the bureaus is precisely an easy way to do it,... |
| 04:59:081 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, you know, we are at a point where the current administration is working very hard behind the scenes and in front of the scenes. And... |
| 05:00:18 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
General Dayton has done a great job. |
| 05:00:181 min. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Yes, General Dayton was on the ground. There is so much more we have to do. And obviously we do support Israel's right to defend itself,... |
| 05:01:324 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Well, I know that's going to be a high priority. I know you've already been meeting on it, and I don't think we need to belabor it here... |
| 05:06:0950 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Well, Mr. Chairman, you will have it, because I share your deep concern. You are eloquent in describing it, and you've been a leader in... |
| 05:06:596 sec. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Senator Menendez, did you have any additional questions? You did. |
| 05:07:0544 sec. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was listening to some of the previous questions, and I just want to make sure, since I made a statement earlier... |
| 05:07:49 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
That is correct, Senator. |
| 05:07:4914 sec. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
And those contributors have been listed -- (inaudible) -- from press releases to event materials to a whole host of other ways in which... |
| 05:08:03 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
That is correct. |
| 05:08:0337 sec. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
Now, it's my understanding, too, when I looked at this, which is why I didn't dwell upon it in my first round of questioning, that the determination... |
| 05:08:40 |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
That is also correct. |
| 05:08:403 min. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
Well, Mr. Chairman, what I would hate to see is some who would put in doubt what I think is an incredibly important opportunity here, and... |
| 05:12:072 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Thank you very much, Senator Menendez. Let me just say, I wasn't going to -- wasn't planning to comment on it, but in light of your commentm... |
| 05:14:5613 sec. |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
Mr. Chairman, if I may, just very briefly. My concerns, since you couched it in the context of Senator Lugar's questions, is not so much... |
| 05:15:09 |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
That's what I was referring to. |
| 05:15:09 |
Menendez, Robert "Bob" - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
Oh, okay. |
| 05:15:091 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
Oh, no, no, no. I'm referring to that. But I'm simply, as Chair, I want to share in the perceptions, as I have from the beginning, that... |
| 05:16:303 sec. |
Clinton, Hillary Rodham - U.S. Senator, [D] New York
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you Senator Lugar. |
| 05:16:33 |
Lugar, Richard "Dick" G. - U.S. Senator, [R] Indiana
Thank you. |
| 05:16:331 min. |
Kerry, John F. - U.S. Senator, [D] Massachusetts
We stand adjourned. |