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MINUTES. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO THE AFTERNOON SESSION. THIS SESSION WILL BE MODERATED BY MICHAEL BESCHLOSS. MR. BESCHLOSS...
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| 00:00:34 |
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KNOWN AS THE VOICE OF LBJ. HE TOOK THE TAPES THAT WERE RELEASED OF PRESIDENT JOHNSON'S TELEPHONE CONVERSATIONS AND MADE THEM INTO A NATIONAL TREASURE....
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| 00:02:52 |
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HAM FOR HARRY -- HAND FOR HARRY. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, HARRY. I FELT RATHER THAN DO THIS AS A FORMAL POLICE INTERROGATION EVEN THOUGH THIS IS IN WASHINGTON,...
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| 00:04:27 |
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POLITICAL JOURNALIST AND I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT POLITICS SO I SAT DOWN ONE SATURDAY AFTERNOON IN MY OFFICE IN COLLEGE. I WAS WORKING FOR THE SCHOOL AND...
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| 00:07:00 |
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A COUSIN WHO WAS WORKING FOR LYNDON JOHNSON IN THE SENATE OFFICE BUILDING. NOT THE LEADER JOHNSON, BUT THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS JOHNSON. JACK CALLED...
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| 00:10:13 |
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THE WORD HE WANTS SOME YOUNGER ADVANCED PEOPLE. AND SO, I DID A COUPLE OF ADVANCED TRIPS AND WENT TO DAVE DEFENSE KEITH'S GARMENT DISTRICT IN NEW YORK...
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| 00:10:51 |
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THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, PRESIDENT
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| 00:10:53 |
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JOHNSON WOULD NOT BE THE ONE TO CARRY THE CAMPAIGN IN THE SOUTH, BUT THE SOUTH WAS VERY FIRST OF ALL LABOR, JOHNSON WAS FROM ALABAMA, AND THE SOUTH...
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| 00:13:22 |
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THE ELECTION. AND
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| 00:13:24 |
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SO THEY DECIDED MARCH AND HADN'T HAD THE WASHINGTON EXPERIENCE. I HAD EXPERIENCE ON THE HILL, SO I WOULD BE HIS ASSISTANT. SO THAT'S HOW IT STARTED...
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| 00:16:19 |
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BUNDY AND JACK FELONY, AND THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION IN 1964I GOT A CALL FROM MAC BUNDY WHO SAID
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| 00:16:27 |
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COME OVER HERE AND MEET WITH BILL MOYERS AND ME. I WENT OVER AND MET WITH HIM AND HE SAID THE PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE YOU TO JOIN THE STAFF. WE WOULD LIKE...
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| 00:19:33 |
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WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BILL, WE
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| 00:19:34 |
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HAVE TO REBUILD THE CITIES OF THIS COUNTRY. AND HE SAID IN FAIR HOUSING, AND HE SAID I WANT -- WE HAVE TO HAVE A COUNTRY IN WHICH ANYBODY WHENEVER COLOR...
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| 00:21:16 |
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IN THE AFTERNOON AND CAME BY CAB TO WHAT IS NOW THE RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING. IT WAS THEN THE SENATE OFFICE BUILDING, THE SENATOR'S OFFICE BUILDING,...
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| 00:21:28 |
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WITH ME ON VITREUM UNDERNEATH THE CAPITOL TO MEET LBJ, WHO WAS IN THE MAJORITY OFFICE. BUT LBJ JUST PLANNED TO COME OVER TO THE SENATE OFFICE BUILDING,...
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| 00:30:06 |
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WITH HIM AND IT MAKES ME FEEL GREAT YOU ARE ALL HERE AND WE CAN TALK TOGETHER. BEFORE I GO INTO MY FIRST FEW DAYS AFTER NOVEMBER 22ND, I WILL JUST SAY...
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| 00:41:37 |
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SPEECH WAS TO BE GIVEN, IT ALWAYS HAD TO BE PASSED BY LADY BIRD JOHNSON AND SHE GAVE HER COMMENTS AND HE LISTENED TO
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| 00:41:48 |
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THEM. IT WAS AMAZING IF U.S. LADY BIRD. SHE WAS A TREMENDOUS INFLUENCE. SOMEONE SAID ON THE PANEL THIS MORNING, SHE WAS NOT IN THE LIMELIGHT AS AN ADVISER,...
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| 00:42:34 |
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SOME BREAKFAST, SOME SCRAMBLED EGGS AND DEAR SAUSAGE OF WHAT HAVE YOU. SHE SAID YOUNG MEN, MALADJUST SUGGESTED YOU EAT SOMETHING BECAUSE WHICH LYNDON...
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| 00:46:39 |
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REMARKABLE PERSON, WHO HAD A STRENGTH OF HER
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| 00:46:42 |
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OLD AND YET KNEW HOW TO TRANSFER IT TO HIM AND TO TROT IN RETURN THE STRENGTH FROM HIM. >> THEIR ANTECEDE WAS EXTRAORDINARY AND IT IS VERY PUBLIC BUILDING,...
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| 00:47:14 |
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IN CASH, THIS WAS IN THE 64 CAMPAIGN, IN THE LITIGATION BEG AND JOHNSON SAID JACK, EVER HEARD IT 18 USC AND RECITED THE NUMBER THAT MAKES IT A FELONY...
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| 00:49:53 |
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WAS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. IT WAS JUST A MARVELOUS EXPERIENCE TO SEE HER WITH THE ENTHUSIASTIC CURIOSITY ABOUT EVERYTHING. >> INDEED. JOE CALIFANO, 1965...
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| 00:50:24 |
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WHERE DID THAT EMOTIONAL COMMITMENT COME FROM IN HIS LIFE, AS VALUES AND HIS MIND? >> I AM NOT SURE I KNOW. I NOTICE THERE. I DO KNOW THAT CERTAINLY...
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| 00:50:51 |
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IN 1928 I THINK IT WAS, THAT I WOULD BE STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF A JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS NOW AND HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THOSE KIDS...
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| 00:51:03 |
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A SECRET, I DO HAVE THAT CHANCE AND I INTEND TO USE
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| 00:51:06 |
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IT AND USE IT HE DID. I THINK THAT HER JUST THE AWFUL WAY THAT HIS CUT AND HUSBAND GENE OVERTREATED WHEN THEY DROVE FROM WASHINGTON TO TEXAS IN THE...
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| 00:52:53 |
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BECAUSE I TRAVELED WITH HIM. REDUCIBLY THE ONLY PERSON, OFTEN THE ONLY PERSON-- WAS WITH US IN FROM JANUARY OF 1960 UNTIL THE LOS ANGELES CONVENTION...
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| 00:59:29 |
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JOHNSON'S LAST BUDGET SO HE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU COULD NOT JUST THE WAY PROGRESSIVE PROGRAM WITHOUT HAVING THE OTHER SIDE ALSO BE WILLING TO COME IN...
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| 01:00:03 |
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THEN THE ONE THAT JOE MARTIALED HIS TROOPS TO WRITE IN THE MID-60S AND THAT WAS A JOHNSON WHO WAS THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER, ELECTED SO FOR YEARS AFTER...
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| 01:07:32 |
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JIM CROW CALLER, AND-- >> HOW TRUE. JOE'S CALIFANO IF YOUR S2-- NEW DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT, SOME OF THE WAYS THAT LBJ WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING MEMBERS...
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| 01:07:59 |
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IN 65 AND 66? >> I THINK HE KNEW MORE ABOUT EVERYBODY. CAN I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT RICHARD RUSSELL BECAUSE HARRY BO REMEMBER. THE SENSE OF LYNDON...
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| 01:08:23 |
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66. >> 68. >> 68. LYNDON JOHNSON WANTED JUDGES THAT UNDERSTOOD THAT BASICALLY, IF THERE WAS A LITMUS TEST, THE LITMUS TEST WAS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT DESEGREGATION,...
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| 01:08:45 |
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OPPOSED TO AND I
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| 01:08:47 |
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REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT, THE JURY TALKED TO SEVERAL OF US BUT KNOWING THAT BY NOMINATING THIS JUDGE HE WOULD TEAR IT WITH THE GUY WHO HAD BEEN HIS BEST...
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| 01:14:18 |
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LBJ? >> I WILL TELL THEM THAT NUMBER ONE, HE FELT GOING BACK TO THE 1950'S, WHEN HE WAS IN THE SENATE FROM EVERYTHING I KNOW HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE ACTION...
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| 01:14:43 |
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PRESIDENTS, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, MAKE STRONG COMMITMENTS TO VIETNAM AND HE WAS NOT GOING TO HAVE A WORD BESMIRCHED AND THAT PART OF THE WORLD. SECONDLY,...
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| 01:21:12 |
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TWO THINGS. ONE, HE ALWAYS USED TO SAY YOU KNOW THE KOREAN WAR AND HE'S GIVING UP LOSING CHINA COST HARRY TRUMAN
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| 01:21:19 |
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THE FAIRFIELD. HE WAS NOT GOING TO LET THIS WAR COST THE GREAT SOCIETY AND HE DID KEEP GOING AND GETTING THESE THROUGH, BUT TO END MOST IMPORTANT TO...
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| 01:24:29 |
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JUST WANTED TO BE THE OPTION OF LAST RESORT. IT WAS VERY CLEAR IN ALL THE DOCUMENTS, THE INTERPRETATIONS OF THE DOCUMENTS. AND THAT IS WRONG TO SEND...
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| 01:26:52 |
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VERY WARMLY ABOUT THE LEADER OF VIETNAM AND HE SAID WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE-- WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS. WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU UP. SO DID BOB...
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| 01:33:23 |
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ALTRUISM AND AFFIRMATION, WHO UNEXPECTEDLY BECAME PRESIDENT AFTER A LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCE THAT PREPARED HIM FOR THE PRESIDENCY HE THOUGHT HE WOULD...
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| 01:33:41 |
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IN AMERICA AND PROVE HIMSELF WORTHY OF AN OPPORTUNITY HE NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE. >> I WOULD SAY THAT HE WAS A TREMENDOUSLY GIFTED POLITICAL MAN...
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| 01:34:13 |
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PRESIDENTS GOING BACK TO FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT, BACK TO AL SMITH, BACK TO WHAT FOUR WILLSON. HE ACHIEVED THEM ALMOST ENTIRELY. >> JIM? >> I MET BOB CAIRO...
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| 01:34:46 |
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INDIVIDUALS WHO
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| 01:34:48 |
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COULD COME BEFORE HE EVER GOT THROUGH A MEMO, UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANT AND START QUESTIONING YOU ABOUT IT. AND HE ALSO REALLY HAD A MISSION TO ACCOMPLISH...
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| 01:35:32 |
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PARTICULARLY FOR CIVIL RIGHTS. AND I THINK HE DEMONSTRATED I WOULD SAY TO A YOUNG PERSON WOULD AGREE LEADER OF GREAT COURAGE CAN ACHIEVE IN THIS COUNTRY...
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| 01:36:14 |
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TO MY KNOWLEDGE HE DIDN'T SEND UP A SINGLE GRASON SIDEY PROPOSAL. THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE EVERETT DIRKSEN, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE,...
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| 01:37:05 |
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TO CHOOSE BETWEEN AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND A WOMAN AND NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT HIM. [APPLAUSE] >> I THINK WITH THE INDULGENCE OF IRVIN WE...
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| 01:37:40 |
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BACK THERE. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING GOTTEN IN LATE AND PERHAPS THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THE PANEL CAN DISCUSS JOHNSON'S RELATIONSHIP...
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| 01:38:01 |
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CAN YOU SPEAK
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| 01:38:03 |
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OUT? >> THIS IS A HUBERT HUMPHREY QUESTION. IT MAY SURPRISE YOU THAT I'M ASKING IT. [LAUGHTER] THE QUESTION IS JUST TO SPECULATE ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP...
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| 01:38:26 |
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THE RELATIONSHIP WHICH MAY HAVE
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| 01:38:29 |
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PREDETERMINED THE 1968 ELECTION AND LOSS IN SOME WAY SORT OF UNDERMINE HIS OWN LEGACY. >> IF I COULD ASK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME HARRY'S REPLY NOT BE...
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| 01:38:58 |
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IF THE ELECTION HAD BEEN THREE DAYS LATER HE WOULD HAVE ONE. I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IT WAS THE WAR THAT WAS THE ISSUE IN THAT ELECTION. I THINK THAT...
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| 01:39:08 |
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HUBERT HUMPHREY THE ELECTION, NOT IN A THING THAT LYNDON JOHNSON DID. I BELIEVE AS I WROTE IN MY BOOK IN HIS HEART OF HEARTS LBJ WOULD PROBABLY RATHER...
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| 01:39:47 |
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HUMPHREY MADE THE SPEECH COMING OUT AGAINST THE WAR IS THERE WAS NO LESS ADVANCED NOTICE TO THE PRESIDENT, AND SECOND, THE SAME REASON HE DECIDED NOT...
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| 01:42:43 |
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VIETNAM IF HE WAS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THE ELECTION. EVERYONE WAS TELLING HIM THAT. AND THE PRESIDENT HAD THE VIEW THAT JIM HAS, I HAPPENED TO BE IN...
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| 01:44:28 |
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TO ENTER AN ERA WHERE AMERICA WILL REFOCUS, AMERICANS WILL REFOCUS ON JOHNSON, THERE WAS EVEN
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| 01:44:38 |
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A SUGGESTION THE COUNTERREVOLUTION IS FINALLY COMING TO THE AND ITS COURSE, THE PURPOSE OF MEETINGS LIKE THIS TO HELP THAT REFOCUSING IN A SENSE. BUT...
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| 01:45:23 |
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FAUZI FAUZI. WHAT FIND MOST AMERICANS WRONGLY DO IS TO CHARACTERIZE THE LIBERALISM OF THE 1960'S BY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 1970'S AND 1980'S, AND I THINK...
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| 01:48:02 |
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WE COULD BOTTLE THE LYNDON JOHNSON THAT WE SEE AND PUT THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. WELL, THESE TAPES GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW OUR SONS LISTEN TO THAT...
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| 01:48:50 |
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SPEECH HAS CAUSED GENERATION AFTER GENERATION OF DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS TO TALK ABOUT FDR AND JFK, AND THERE IS NO LBJ. EVEN THOUGH WHAT LBJ ACHIEVE...
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