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CONVERSATIONS] SENATOR PATTY MURRAY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION YET TO ARRIVE. KIT BOND IS THE RANKING REPUBLICAN ON THE COMMITTEE....
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
WE LEARNED OF A PLAN TO MAKE A MERGER TO CREATE THE NATION'S LARGEST U.S. AIRLINES. AND MORE MERGERS COULD BE ANNOUNCED SOON. WITH ALL THIS DESTRUCTION...
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Bond, Christopher "Kit" - U.S. Senator, [R] Missouri
THE STATE OF AVIATION SAFETY OFFICE WITHIN THE FAA. I AM HOWEVER APPRECIATED OF THE SAFETY RECORD OF YOUR ITEMIZATION AND BELIEVE YOU AND YOUR EMPLOYEES...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
THE PEOPLE MAKING TOP-LEVEL DECISIONS, THE MANAGEMENT OF FAA ARE
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Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE AVIATION SYSTEM IS OPERATING CAREFULLY AND PRECISELY THE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH SAFETY INSPECTORS DECIDING...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
28 NOVEMBER 07G A.
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Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
O REPORT, LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAL REPORT HAD MORE RUNWAY INCURSIONS' THAN ANY OTHER AIRPORT IN THE COUNTRY DURING 2001-2006. THE GAO CONCLUDED AND...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
YOU, MR. BOND AND MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE REGARDING THE BUDGET REQUEST AND SAFETY AND CAPITAL PROGRAMS FOR 2009. AS THE OPERATOR AND REGULATOR...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
ALL OF OUR CRITICAL PRIORITIES. PRIORITIES BY WHICH THE FLYING PUBLIC AND TAX PAYERS THE PEN. ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE ACTIVITY WE HAVE ALL WITNESSED...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THAT IS OF SPECIAL INTEREST TO THIS COMMITTEE, AT THE NEXT GENERATION TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. IN MANY WAYS, BUT BUYING FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS IN INDUSTRY...
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Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
GENERATION OF AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL OR NEXT-GEN. MY STATEMENT TODAY WILL ADDRESS THREE POINTS. FIRST, STRENGTH AND OVERSIGHT OF THE AVIATION INDUSTRY....
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ARE DOING TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT SAFETY IS NOT BEING COMPROMISED BY THE INCONSISTENT AND INSPECTION AND ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE SEEN...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
ABOUT THAT RECORD AND TO NOT REST ON THAT RECORD. IS TO MAKE THAT RECORD BETTER. THE AD REVIEW THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH NOW IS DESIGNED TO CHECK ...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
TO WORRY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE SYSTEM AND TO ACT ON DEFICIENCIES THAT WE SEE IN THE SYSTEM. THAT PARTICULAR WIRING 80, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
A LOT ABOUT WIRING AND THE PROBLEMS WITH WIRING SINCE THE SWISS AIR FLIGHT 111 AFTER THAT FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO. AND OUT OF THAT ACCIDENT, WE HAVE...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
AIR CARRIERS, THERE WERE QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT WHETHER AMERICAN AIRLINES FIXED IT CORRECTLY. THE RESULTS AS ALL OF THESE NAB WERE GROUNDED IMMEDIATELY...
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| 00:42:43 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
GETTING TOUGH. IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO CLAIMS, IN THE LIGHT OF SOUTHWEST AND WHAT HAPPENED AND THAT WAS A FAILURE ON OUR PART AS WELL AS SOUTHWEST BUT...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
OF RISK, AND GRANTED, IT IS A LOW PROBABILITY IN SOME CASES, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT IS A
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
HIGH CONSEQUENCE. THESE ARE WIRES IN THE AREA OF THE FUEL TANK AND HYDRAULIC LINES. AS THE MICHAEL CAIN, WELL, LET'S GO TO THE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES AND...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
ENFORCEMENT ACTION, THAT IT TOOK LONGER THAN WE WOULD HAVE LIKED. >> USADA TIMING IS JUST A COINCIDENCE? >> THAT IS MY BELIEF, AS PIERRE GAZA GENERAL...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
ONE OF THE LARGEST IF NOT THE LARGEST, A CIVIL
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
ENFORCEMENT PENALTIES ASSESSED BY FAA. >> MR -- THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS WE CAN'T RUN YOUR
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Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
AGENCY TO PROVIDE US THE PUBLIC, THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE FIND IS A SAFE AIRPLANE. WE EXPECT FROM YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT IS DONE SAFELY AND CONSISTENTLY....
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
WAS GOING TO BE ADHERING. THERE'S A MAJOR FIND AT SOUTHWEST AND WITHIN DAYS, UPON HUNDREDS OF PLANES ARE GROUNDED. WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE LAST 18...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
SYSTEM EVEN SAFER THAN IT IS TODAY. >> MR. CHRIS KOVAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? >> S88 -- FAA MUST IT SURELY IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THE REST WITH...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
BEAR, HOWEVER MOST RECENTLY, VISUALIZE NATURALLY TO THAT QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE. WHY NOT THIS ATTENTION BEFORE? AND I THINK THE
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| 00:48:23 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
RECORD HAS ILLUSTRATED BY THE SOUTHWEST CASE, THE EVENT
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| 00:48:28 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
THAT OCCURRED IN MARCH 2007, INITIAL INVESTIGATION COMPLETED IN APRIL, SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATIONS ABETTED AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL IN JULY, A SUPPLEMENT...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
JUSTIFICATION. THAT HD ARE BEING
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Bond, Christopher "Kit" - U.S. Senator, [R] Missouri
COMPLIED WITH BY THE AIRLINES, BUT WHEN A
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Bond, Christopher "Kit" - U.S. Senator, [R] Missouri
NEW ERA OF WORTHINESS DIRECTIVE IS ISSUED, I'M INTERESTED IN WHITE YOUR AGENCY DOES. AND I RAISED MY OPENING REMARKS, THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE ...
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| 00:51:17 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
LEARNED, THE PROCESS INVOLVES AN AIRWAVES DIRECTIVE, A SERVICE BULLETIN INCOMING ENGINEERING CHANGE ORDER, AND THEN EVENTUALLY IT INTO UP ADAMLE IS...
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Bond, Christopher "Kit" - U.S. Senator, [R] Missouri
WITH REPRESENTATIVES. NUMBER ONE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT? NUMBER TWO, ARE YOU DOING IT, AND AND THEN FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION IN THE SHORT -- SHORT TERM TO...
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| 00:53:15 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
DAVID RIVKIN CARRIER OVERSIGHT SYSTEM. WE KNOW FROM THE SOUTHWEST CASE, THAT THE CARRIER 80 COMPLIANCE PROGRAM WAS FIRST AUDITED, FIRST INSPECTED BY...
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Bond, Christopher "Kit" - U.S. Senator, [R] Missouri
MONTHS. THAT BE A DO WAS PENDING TO SEE THAT THE JOB WAS BEING DONE PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE TO ENSURE THAT AIRLINES COULD MEET THE GOAL OF COMPLIANCE...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
QUESTIONS ABOUT AIRWORTHINESS DIRECTIVES, THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS YOU ARE ASKING ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT OUR TASK FORCE INDUSTRY WILL ADDRESS....
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
OTHER THING THAT IS A CONCERN WOULD BE THE LOSS OF CORPORATE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR AIRLINE. IF AN INSPECTOR HAS BEEN THERE AND KNOWS THAT SYSTEM,...
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Bond, Christopher "Kit" - U.S. Senator, [R] Missouri
PHYSICAL INSPECTIONS OF THAT PARTICULAR AID THE.
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
AND CERTAIN THERE WERE OTHER TYPES OF INSPECTIONS. >> IF THERE HAD BEEN PHYSICAL INSPECTIONS, CHECKING TO SEE THE WORK THAT BEEN DONE RIGHT DURING THAT...
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| 00:58:28 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
AN ASSUMPTION -- IF YOU LOOK AT ONE AIRPLANE AND IT LOOKS GOOD, ALL
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
THE OTHER AIRPLANES WOULD HAVE THAT -- >> SOMEONE WOULD HAVE SAID THIS IS BEING DONE WRONG? >> GAZARIA? >> SOMEONE SAID THIS COULD'VE BEEN DONE ON WITH...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THAN JUST PAPER WORK? >> IF DURING THE 18 MONTHS, AMERICAN
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
HAD DONE AN AIRPLANE DURING
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THAT
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
TIME, AND AN FAA INSPECTOR HAD LOOKED AT THAT PARTICULAR AIRPLANE FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, THEN, THAT INSPECTORS COULD HAVE SEEN WHETHER OR NOT...
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| 00:59:18 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
WAS BEING DONE IN CONFORMITY WITH THE AIRWAVE DIRECTIVE OR NOT. >> SENATOR FEINSTEIN? >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. MADAM CHAIRMAN, TO THE FAA ADMINISTRATOR,...
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Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
AND DO POINT OUT IN THIS LETTER
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| 00:59:48 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON A HIRING WAVE AND THAT IS HIRING WAVE CREATED THE POTENTIAL FOR A LARGE PORTION OF THE CONTROLLER WORK FORCE TO REACH RETIREMENT...
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
FACILITY PLANS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL FACILITY. >> COULD YOU, I HAVE LIMITED TIME. COULD YOU JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK AL ABX IS AT HIGH...
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Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
PRIORITY AND SO WANT TO KNOW IS WILL THESE 1944 PEOPLE PROVIDE ENOUGH CONTROLLERS TO LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TO REDUCE THAT A HIGH RISK OF ...
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| 01:02:22 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
MR. SCOVEL, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS DID YOU FIND THAT ELIAS WOULD NEED, NOT TO BE AT CATASTROPHIC RISK OF A RUNWAY INCURSION? >>...
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| 01:02:41 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
OF CONTROLLERS FOR US, THE KEY
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Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
QUESTION IS THE COMPOSITION OF THAT WORKFORCE AT THE FACILITY. HOW MANY ARE EXPERIENCED VETERAN CONTROLLERS VERSUS NOMINEE OUR CONTROLLERS IN TRAINING...
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| 01:02:55 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
ACROSS EVERY FACILITY THROW FAA'S CONTROL TRAFFIC SYSTEM. IF THE MIX IS TOO HIGH, IF THE NUMBER OF CONTROLLERS AND TRAINING IS TOO HIGH, THAT RAISES...
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| 01:03:43 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
FOR THAT DATA? >> OF COURSE. >> I AM VERY CONCERNED. MISTERS SCOVEL -- MR.
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| 01:03:52 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
STURGELL,. >> THE ISSUE OF INCURSIONS' THOSE TO THE LAYOUT AND THE CLOSENESS OF THE PARALLEL RUNWAYS. THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF...
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| 01:04:03 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
BY MOVING THE RUNWAYS
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Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
FURTHER APART. I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO DO THAT ON THE NORTH
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Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
SIDE OF THE RUNAWAY. ADDRESSING RUNWAY INCURSIONS' IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE ATTACKED FROM
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
ALL ANGLES, STAFFING, TECHNOLOGY, AIRPORT LAYOUT, AS WELL AS PROCEDURES, MARKINGS, AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH ED. >> IT IS JUST THAT I WENT...
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Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
FACTOR. SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THIS, KEEP COMING AT YOU, UNTIL THIS GETS DONE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. LET ME QUICKLY GO TO ONE OTHER THING AND THAT...
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| 01:06:30 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
YES? >> SO HE HAS TALKED TO US. >> I KNOW THAT. >> ABOUT THE POLICIES AND WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO. AND I BELIEVE THAT ASSUMING THERE ARE CHANGES TO...
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| 01:06:53 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
IS EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY, VERY
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| 01:06:56 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
MUCH. >> LET'S GO BACK
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| 01:06:58 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
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Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
TO LAX. I'M REALLY NOT, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A RUNWAY ACCIDENT IN 1991 AND 34 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT CONJURED UP. U-VERSE
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| 01:07:14 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
SANG, MR. STURGELL, AIRLINE TRAFFIC, AIRLINE TRAVEL IS THE SAFEST IT'S EVER
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| 01:07:20 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
BEEN, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I CAME OUT THIS WEEK ON A FULLY LOADED TRIPLE SEVEN, WITH EVERYTHING STUFF EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS, AND THAT PLANE...
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| 01:08:26 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
SENATOR FEINSTEIN, FOR BRINGING UP THAT SUBJECT. IS GROTESQUE CONSIDERATION. ESPECIALLY IF THE PHONE CALLS ARE RUNNING INTERESTING. >> THAT DIDN'T GET...
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| 01:08:45 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
VERY
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| 01:08:46 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. MR. STURGELL, SINCE LAST MONTH, THOUSANDS OF FLIGHTS HAVE BEEN CANCELLED FOR SAFETY INSPECTIONS AND REPAIRS. WEIBRECHT
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| 01:09:03 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
AIRPLANES -- WHY WERE AIRPLANES ABLE TO FLY PLANES THAT HAD NOT BEEN INSPECTED? SUDDENLY, THIS DISCOVERY THAT CANCELED THOUSANDS OF FLIGHTS, THE CONDITIONS...
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| 01:10:08 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THAT THESE FLIGHTS WERE BEING CANCELED ALL OF THE PLACE, 2000 IN A SINGLE DAY I THINK IT WAS BY AMERICAN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. SO HOW COULD THAT BE?...
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| 01:10:24 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
SUDDENLY THOUSANDS OF FLIGHTS WERE CANCELED? >> SENATOR, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT CANCELLATION AND THOSE DISRUPTIONS ON IN A LEVEL. >> WELL, DOES THAT...
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| 01:10:47 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
GROUNDED. THAT IS WHY THE AIRLINE GROUNDED THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH AIR WORTHINESS
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| 01:10:54 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
DIRECTIVE. >> SO FORGIVE ME, CHALLENGES YOUR STATEMENT THAT HE MADE A MOMENT AGO, THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE IN FULL COMPLIANCE.
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| 01:11:06 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE? >> I THINK YOUR CHARGE REFLECTS THE TIMELINE OF THIS PARTICULAR EVENT. THERE WERE 18 MONTHS TO
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| 01:11:16 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE. IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE AUDIT, AS INDICATED, BE IDENTIFIED ISSUES WITH THE WIRING, BUT AMERICAN AND DELTA UP AND A COUPLE OF OTHER...
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| 01:11:30 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
BE BELIEVE THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF AND WHEN WE CAME BACK, WE FOUND THAT AMERICANS HAD NOT COMPLIED WITH THE. >> THAT WAS IT POSSIBLE OVER THAT. MAC...
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| 01:12:02 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
GROUNDING? >> WELL, I THINK THIS CANCELLATION NUMBER SHOWS THAT THE AIRLINES WERE TAKING MEASURES. >> THIS IS A CART AND A COURSE TYPE OF THING BECAUSE...
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| 01:12:24 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
PLACE DOES THAT MAKE US FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE, I MUST TELL YOU.
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| 01:12:31 |
Feinstein, Dianne - U.S. Senator, [D] California
CHAIRMAN SCOVEL, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT YOU DID FOR ME ON LOW FUEL. WITH THE PRESSURE OF THE EVER HIGH FUEL PRICES, DO YOU THINK THAT FAA IS DOING...
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| 01:13:18 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
REGULATIONS REGARDING FUEL THAT MUST BE CARRIED AND THE AS TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE FLIGHT OF COURSE TO BE ANNOUNCED DESTINATION, PLUS ENOUGH FOR THE...
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| 01:14:25 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
WORK LIBERTY. IN 2007 THERE WERE 151 SUCH DECLARATIONS. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE DECLARATIONS, 66%, OCCURRED
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| 01:14:35 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
ON INTERNATIONAL ROUTES AND CONTINENTAL AIRLINES ACCOUNT UP FOR 64 PERCENT OF THE FUEL DECLARATIONS. >> AT THE POLICY REQUIRES THE AGENCY TO HAVE A...
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| 01:15:08 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
PLAN IMMEDIATELY. WHAT ARE THE DANGERS OF NOT MAKING THESE UPDATES? >> SENATOR, THE NTSB HAS IDENTIFIED RUNWAY SAFETY AND SPECIFICALLY RUNWAY INCURSIONS'...
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| 01:15:37 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
RUNWAY INCURSIONS. FAA MADE GREAT PROGRESS IN THEIR EARLY PART OF THIS DECADE WITH REGARD TO RUNWAY SAFETY. RUNWAY INCURSIONS' DECLINE FROM WELL OVER...
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| 01:17:13 |
Lautenberg, Frank R. - U.S. Senator, [D] New Jersey
SAFETY FEATURES AND THERE IS NO ISSUE MORE IN MIND OF TRAFFIC
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| 01:17:19 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
CARE BEEN AIR SAFETY. THANK
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| 01:17:22 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
YOU, MR. STURGELL, FOR SCHEDULING A MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA ON THE 25th. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP TO ISSUES WITH YOU IN THE TIME THAT I HAVE. ONE IS...
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| 01:18:51 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
AND WE HAVE SEVEN MINUTES. WELL NOT HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT IS ACCOMMODATING TO PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LEAVE AND ARRIVE ON TIME? >> I WANT YOU TO COME TO...
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| 01:19:11 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
CONGRESS CAN. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT CONGRESS ESTABLISH A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE SCHEDULES ESTABLISHED WHICH ARE REALISTIC THAT TRAVELERS CAN RELY...
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Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
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Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
ARRIVAL? >> WELL, AGAIN, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ADOPTING CAPACITIES TO IMPROVE IT WHERE WE SEE PROBLEMS THAT AFFECT THE NATIONAL SYSTEM LIKE WE HAVE...
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| 01:19:51 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
IT. >> OKAY, LET'S WORK ON IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME, CONGRESS CAN DO THAT. MY INSTINCT IS CONGRESS OUGHT TO DO THAT. BUT LET'S MOVE AHEAD AND WORK ON
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| 01:20:03 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
IT TOGETHER. BEFORE MY
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| 01:20:05 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
TIME EXPIRES AND IT RUNS FAST, LET ME MOVE TO THE QUESTION OF OVERFLIGHT WHERE YOU AND I HAVE HAD TWO ANCESTRAL --
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| 01:20:13 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
CONSIDERABLE CORRESPONDENCE. YOU CONFIRM, UNDERSTANDING WAS CORRECT THAT THERE WAS A COMMITMENT THAT IF MORE THAN TEN FLIGHTS, THEY WOULD NOT FLY OVER...
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| 01:20:55 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
IN OUR RECORD AND DECISION AND REQUIRE A REEVALUATION OF ANALYSIS AND BOTH OPERATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. NOW, YOUR LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 7th,...
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| 01:22:30 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
BOTH PLACES, WE
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| 01:22:32 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
ARE LIMITING, WE ARE LIMITING
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| 01:22:34 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
THE NUMBER AS OF DISPERSAL HEADINGS. >> NOW, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY SO. THOSE TIMES DO NOT CORRESPOND WITH HAVING
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| 01:22:43 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
MORE THAN TEN PET -- TEN PLANTS WAITING. THAT IS THE STANDARD HAVEN'T NEW WORK BUT NOT PHILADELPHIA. >> I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS YOU ARE ASKING WITH...
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| 01:23:00 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
NEXT WEEK OR DISCUSS IT WITH YOU NEXT WEEK. >> OKAY, YOUR LETTER DATED MARCH 20 FOR US TO CHANGE ANY OF THE TECHNICAL DISCLOSE MITIGATION STRATEGIES...
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| 01:23:12 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
OF DECISION REQUIREMENT, WE EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS OF BOTH OPERATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM OF
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| 01:23:25 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
RE-EVALUATION, MR. STURGELL? YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY WHICH IS UP IN ARMS, REALLY, UP IN ARMS ABOUT AND THE WAYS. AND THEY ASK ME BUT QUESTIONS, WHY DOES...
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| 01:24:25 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
OF PEOPLE IN THAT REGION. I BELIEVE, A DOZEN LAWSUITS AREN'T AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS AWARE THINK THESE ISSUES WILL GET PLAYED OUT IN LITIGATION....
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| 01:25:27 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
A COOLING OFF PERIOD BEFORE AN INSPECTOR CAN START WORKING ON AN AIRLINE THAT HE OR SHE PREVIOUSLY INSPECTED. NOW, THE FAA HAS STATED THEY WILL ADOPT...
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| 01:26:14 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
HAD A POLICY IN THE AIRLINE HIRED AS AN INSPECTOR TO COME TO WORK FOR THEM. WE ARE GOING TO INSTITUTE POLICIES THAT WILL REQUIRE THE SAME TWO-YEAR COOLING-OFF
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| 01:26:26 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
PERIOD >> BELIEVE WE HAVE
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| 01:26:29 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
TO DO THIS SOME KIND OF COMMON PERIOD BUT WE WILL EXPEDITE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. >> SO IT WOULD BE A TWO-YEAR WAITING PERIOD AFTER THEY LEAVE IT AT...
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| 01:26:50 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
APPLY? .. ..
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| 01:26:57 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
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| 01:27:05 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
WHAT WE HAVE CALLED FOR A NUMBER OF WEEK NOW. THIS OVERLY COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH SOUTHWEST. >> IF THIS IS A CONCERN AND AN ISSUE TO BE ADDRESSED...
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| 01:29:12 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
SPECIFIC PROBLEMS IN THOSE AREAS. BUT THE FACT THAT THOSE SAFETY INSPECTORS IN OTHER MODES WITHIN DOT MAYBE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE SAME
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| 01:29:22 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
PROBLEMS. WE THINK SHOULD GIVE RISE TO THE DEPARTMENT, TAKING A LOOK AT THAT QUESTION. >> APPRECIATE THAT. >> MR. STURGELL BEING MANY ISSUES RAISED...
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| 01:29:50 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
IMPLEMENTATION OF YOUR NEW APPROACH FOR RISK BASED INSPECTION
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| 01:29:54 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
WAS INCONSISTENT ACROSS FAA FIELD OFFICES. HE RECOMMENDED THAT THE FAA STRENGTHEN NATIONAL OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR NEW APPROACH. THE...
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| 01:31:07 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
OUR RESPONSES. >> YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS HARD FOR US, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. YOU COME BEFORE A SUBCOMMITTEE. EVERYTHING WILL BE UNDRESSED....
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| 01:31:30 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THE IG RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WILL CERTAINLY DISCUSS WITH YOU IN CASES WHERE WE DON'T AGREE OR DON'T FULLY COMPLY, THE REASON FORCE DOING SO. I DO WANT...
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| 01:33:13 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
IS FRUSTRATING. WE SIT HERE EVERY YEAR. WE GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS,
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| 01:33:17 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
WE HAVE A FAA DIRECTOR THAT COMES BEFORE US AND SAYS THE SAME THING. WHAT DO WE NEED. TIME LINES. I MEAN WE HAVE HAD TIME LINES AND ASKED FOR TIME LINES,...
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| 01:33:27 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
MISSING? >> IT IS
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| 01:33:29 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
FRUSTRATING. IN RESPONSE TO OUR 2002
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| 01:33:32 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR GREATER NATIONAL OVERSIGHT. FAA PROMISED THAT THE NEWLY APPOINTED DIRECTOR OF FLIGHTS STANDARD DIVISION WOULD UNDERTAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY....
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| 01:33:49 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
GREATER GREATER NATIONAL OVERSIGHT TO US APPEARED TO BE THE SOLUTION. THE FAA COMMUNICATED BACK TO US WITH THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED SOLUTIONS. FRANKLY...
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| 01:34:58 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
IS THE REASON THAT THIS IS NOT BEING
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| 01:35:00 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
DONE? >> AGAIN, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS
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| 01:35:02 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
IS MY BELIEF THAT THE TEAM WILL COMPLETE THE FOUR AUDITS IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER WORK IT IS DOING AND WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER AIRLINE, OTHER THAN SOUTHWEST?...
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| 01:35:17 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
ARE ANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE
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| 01:35:21 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
REQUIRED INSPECTIONS OUTSTANDING. >> YOU DON'T KNOW? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. NO. WE CAN TAKE A -- WE CAN TALK TO. THE CMO OFFICE AND WE CAN PUT TOGETHER...
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| 01:35:43 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
TAKE? >> WELL, I
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| 01:35:44 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
WILL KNOW WHEN I GET BACK TO THE OFFICE. I WILL GIVE YOU A CALL BACK. >> YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE PUBLIC IS FRUSTRATED HERE? MR. STURGELL, IT IS YOUR...
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| 01:36:04 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THE FAA TO HEAR THIS SAME ANSWER, YEAR AFTER YEAR, AFTER
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| 01:36:07 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
YEAR. IT IS FRUSTRATING TO THIS COMMITTEE TO HEAR THAT THE AUDITS HAVE NOT BEEN DONE, THE REPORTS HAVE NOT BEEN FILED AND WE WILL GET A ANSWER FROM...
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| 01:36:47 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
THIS OTHER THAN JUST PLEADING AT EVERY COMMITTEE HEARING THAT WE HAVE? >> IF THE FAA A DOCUMENTS OUR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY...
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| 01:37:01 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
TO INCORPORATE INTO THE PROGRAM, ALERTS. BOTH NOT ONLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BUT AT THE REGIONAL AND THE NATIONAL LEVELS TOO WHEN A CMO IS IN DANGER OF...
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| 01:37:12 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
THE TRIP WIRE WITH THE REQUIRED-FIVE YEAR INSPECTION THAT'S WOULD HELP. THE DATE IS AVAILABLE. MY AUDIT STAFF HAD IT WITHIN 6 OR 7 WEEKS REGARDING THE...
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| 01:38:02 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
INTO THAT. YOU KNOW. IT IS, IT IS A CONCERN TO ALL OF US. DO I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS HERE, ON INSPECTIONS, AND ON A NUMBER OF THE RUNWAY INCURSIONS....
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| 01:38:14 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
I WILL SUBMIT THOSE FOR THE RECORD. I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THOSE BACK AND THERE
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| 01:38:18 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
ARE OTHER
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| 01:38:19 |
Murray, Patty - U.S. Senator, [D] Washington
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TOO. WE HAVE GONE OVER THE TIME. AND I KNOW SENATOR BOBBED HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TOO. I WILL SUBMIT THOSE FOR THE RECORD. MR. STURGELL,...
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| 01:39:30 |
Sturgell, Robert A. - Acting Administrator
YOU. [INAUDIBLE
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| 01:39:37 |
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