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THINK ABOUT HOW I COULD COMBINE ECONOMICS WITH HISTORY. I THOUGHT ABOUT
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WRITING ABOUT ABRAHAM LINCOLN. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY -- I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THIS. >> IN THE LATE 90'S, HOW DID YOU PUSH FOR...
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LINCOLN WAS THE SAVIOR OF THE UNION, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS STORY.
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AFTER MY EDUCATION, I BEGAN TO EDUCATE MYSELF MORE. >> HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >> I TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH OF LINCOLN,...
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I THINK THAT THIS IS
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DANGEROUS, AND I MENTIONED THIS IN MY RIDING. POLITICIANS -- WRITING. POLITICIANS HAVE TRIED TO CONNECT THEMSELVES TO ABRAHAM LINCOLN, FOR ALL KINDS...
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| 00:04:29 |
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PAPER MAY BE EXPANDED TO TELL A LONGER STORY.
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I PUBLISHED THIS -- AND I FELT THAT I HAD ALREADY FINISHED THIS, AND MY PUBLISHER TALKED ABOUT MY ARTICLE. HE WAS INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THIS INTO...
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| 00:05:30 |
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HE SAID --
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| 00:05:32 |
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE BOOK? THE DREAM OF EVERY AUTHOR. I WAS ON FOR THE ENTIRE HOUR, MY AMAZON SALES WERE #TWO THE NEXT DAY....
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| 00:06:17 |
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WITH THE OPEN TOMB IN THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE.
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| 00:06:24 |
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I THINK AS THIS -- I THINK THAT THIS LED TO THE DEIFICATION OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENCY. PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM AFTER...
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| 00:09:07 |
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NOW AT GEORGE MASON. THEY WERE THE PIONEERS OF PUBLIC
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| 00:09:15 |
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CHOICE, COMBINING ECONOMICS AND POLITICAL SCIENCE. IT IS INTERESTING TO GO AFTER A HISTORICAL FIGURE LIKE LINCOLN. >> WHERE DID YOU DO YOUR UNDERGRADUATE...
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| 00:09:48 |
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ABOUT 3500 GRADUATE STUDENTS --
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| 00:09:52 |
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THE EMPHASIS IS ON LIBERAL ARTS. THIS IS PART
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| 00:09:58 |
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OF THE BIG BUG GRADUATE PROGRAM. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
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| 00:10:02 |
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THERE? >> I HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1992. >> ONCE YOU BEGAN WRITING THESE BOOKS, HOW DID YOUR LIFE CHANGED? >> I HAVE BEEN IN SEVERAL DEBATES, AND --
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| 00:10:22 |
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LAST OCTOBER I WAS IN A DEBATE IN
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| 00:10:25 |
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CHICAGO WITH A LOCAL
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| 00:10:30 |
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LAWYER WHO IS A FAN OF LINCOLN, THEY SAY THIS IS THE LINCOLN LAW FIRM.
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| 00:10:37 |
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HE IS A BIG SHOT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. I WENT INTO THE BELLY OF THE BEAST. I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE WORKING ON THIS AND THIS IS...
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| 00:12:08 |
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THE ARE DEVOTED INTO PUTTING OUT THESE PROGRAMS -- THEY ARE DEVOTED IN JUNE PUTTING OUT THESE PROGRAMS. -- INTO PUTTING OUT THESE PROGRAMS. THIS IS A...
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| 00:12:31 |
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PEOPLE CAME TO THE UNITED STATES. THIS WAS DURING WORLD WAR TWO. -- WORLD WAR II. THIS WAS IN ALABAMA -- THEY WERE FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMICS. I HAVE...
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| 00:13:38 |
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GOVERNMENTS. AND THEY SAY THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING
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| 00:13:42 |
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TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY DO VERY BADLY. HE WAS A BRILLIANT SCHOLAR, AND IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE MARKET SINCE THE HOW THESE ARE WORKING, THAT IS...
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| 00:14:47 |
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ADVOCATE A BRITISH MERCANTILE SYSTEM. THIS WAS BASICALLY A SYSTEM
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| 00:14:58 |
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OF POLICIES THAT BENEFITED THE POLITICALLY CONNECTED BUSINESSES, AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYBODY ELSE, CONSUMERS AND OTHER BUSINESSES -- THE GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED...
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| 00:18:13 |
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GENIUS, AND A GREAT TRAGEDY FOR AMERICA IS THAT HE WOULD USE HIS GENIUS TO
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| 00:18:20 |
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MANIPULATE SOUTH CAROLINA INTO FIRING THE FIRST SHOT, PLUNGING THE NATION INTO A WAR. AND INVADING HIS OWN COUNTRY. NOBODY WAS KILLED, BUT THE RESPONSE...
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| 00:20:25 |
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AMERICANS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE UNION WAS
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| 00:20:28 |
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VOLUNTARY, AND THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ATROCITY IF ANY OF THE STATE'SS WERE LEAVING. IN "THE REAL LINCOLN: A NEW LOOK AT ABRAHAM LINCOLN, HIS AGENDA, AND...
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| 00:22:11 |
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WHAT IS BEHIND THIS? >> I WENT THROUGH MY ARTICLE, TALKING ABOUT HOW GOODWIN WAS TAKEN OFF OF THE AIR, SHE WAS A NETWORK COMMENTATOR WHO WAS TAKEN OFF...
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| 00:22:44 |
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PLAGIARISM. NOW SHE IS TELLING US WHO WE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR FOR THE PRESIDENCY. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK THIS IS STRANGE. SHE HAS JUST...
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| 00:25:19 |
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WORSHIP INSTEAD OF ANALYSIS. SHE SAYS
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| 00:25:23 |
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THAT SHE HAS FOCUSED -- ON SOMETHING THAT I BEGAN TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT. THIS IS THE SUNKEN HISTORY. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STUDIED...
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| 00:26:51 |
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THIS IS WHAT THE HISTORIAN IS DOING, SOMEBODY WHO WRITES PROPAGANDA TO MAKE THE STATE LOOK BETTER THAN
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| 00:27:03 |
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IT REALLY IS. >> WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? >> WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH OF LINCOLN, MUCH OF WHAT WILL MOTIVATE PEOPLE -- THEY WILL TAKE THIS TO SUPPORT...
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| 00:27:26 |
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WELL-KNOWN HISTORIAN AT COLUMBIA
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| 00:27:29 |
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UNIVERSITY -- HE TALKS ON THE CIVIL WAR SHOWS. HE HAS AN ARTICLE WHERE HE WAS ACCUSING THE BREAKUP -- HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SOVIET UNION, AND HE...
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| 00:29:31 |
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I WAS LISTENING TO SPEECH -- WHAT IS THIS ABOUT DAVID DONALD? >> THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO READ EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT ABOUT LINCOLN. THERE IS A...
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| 00:30:07 |
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WHAT IS MOTIVATING THEM TO FOLLOW THE TRUTH, OR IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF AGENDA. AT EVERYBODY -- HE IS MY FAVORITE HISTORICAL SCHOLAR, YOU CAN LEARN...
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| 00:31:28 |
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WRITE THESE AWARDS -- AND IF YOU WANT TO BE A HISTORIAN, AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONTRACT FROM THE BIG PUBLISHERS AND THE UNIVERSITY PUBLISHERS -- THEY...
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| 00:31:45 |
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IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF LINCOLN. YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE A CAREER AS AN ACADEMIC HISTORIAN. THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU A JOB, NOBODY WILL...
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| 00:35:14 |
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LINCOLN CRITICS. I JUST RECEIVED A PAPER FROM A YOUNG
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| 00:35:19 |
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MAN WHO HAS A PAPER -- HE WROTE A VERY GOOD ARTICLE ON LINCOLN. HE SPOKE ABOUT SENDING A FREE BLACK PEOPLE TO LIBERIA AND AFRICA. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT...
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| 00:37:29 |
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THE ONE THING -- I
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| 00:37:34 |
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FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS IS THAT LINCOLN HAD PURCHASED A LOT OF LAND IN IOWA IN 1857. THEY OFFERED HIM THE LAW OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL, FOR $10,000 A YEAR....
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| 00:40:41 |
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ASK ME, BECAUSE I AM A CREDIT, THEY WANT
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| 00:40:49 |
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TO KNOW IF HE NEEDS TO BE ON MOUNT RUSHMORE. -- CRITIC, THEY WANT TO KNOW IF HE NEEDS TO BE ON MOUNT RUSHMORE IN NOTHING THAT ANYBODY SHOULD BE ON MOUNT...
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| 00:41:55 |
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I WOULD TELL THEM ABOUT THIS. >> YOU HAVE GONE TO MOST
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| 00:42:01 |
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OF THE PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY? YOU HAVE GONE TO FORD'S THEATRE? >> LINCOLN MEMORIAL, I HAVE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES. >> SHOULD THERE BE A LINCOLN...
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| 00:42:21 |
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MEMORIAL, AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A MEMORY OF THE PRESIDENT -- THE MEMORIAL IS A SPECTACLE. IT LOOKS
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| 00:42:32 |
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LIKE SOME KIND OF GREEK TEMPLE.
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| 00:42:36 |
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WASHINGTON IS ONE MAJOR CITY OF
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| 00:42:39 |
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MEMORIALS, MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT THEY ARE NOT MEMORIALIZING GEORGE WASHINGTON. THE GOVERNMENT IS REMEMBERING ITSELF WITH ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS....
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| 00:43:43 |
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WERE VERY APPALLING. THE HISTORY CHANNEL -- THEY INTERVIEWED ME FOR ONE AND A
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| 00:43:50 |
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HALF HOURS, AND THEY WERE USING ABOUT 20 SECONDS OF THE INTERVIEW. THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE ME SAY EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I HAD SAID IN THE INTERVIEW....
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| 00:44:31 |
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HAD NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, THEY WANTED TO MAKE LINCOLN C. EVENT -- SEEM TO BE
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| 00:44:40 |
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EVEN BETTER THAN HE IS NOW BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS SO BAD. I MUST HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY CONTRARY TO THIS IDEA. I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY USE ANY OF THIS....
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| 00:45:55 |
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THING TO DO. WE HAD SIX OR SEVEN OF THE ACADEMICS, SPEAKING ABOUT LINCOLN. THIS WAS VERY LOW-COST, AT THE JOHN MARSHALL HOTEL. WE HAD OVER 300 PEOPLE...
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| 00:47:19 |
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QUESTION, TO PEOPLE WHO HAD GIVEN THE SPEECHES.
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| 00:47:23 |
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THE CONFERENCE HAVE BEEN DOMINATED BY THE LINCOLN SCHOLARS, PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF TO INTERROGATE THEM. WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE...
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| 00:48:36 |
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| 00:48:39 |
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YOU CAN LOOK AT ANY BOOK ON THIS, AND READ THE OPPOSITE. I BEGAN TO WONDER WHY A MAN LIKE THIS WOULD SAY SOMETHING THAT WAS SO FALSE. MY IMPRESSION WAS...
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| 00:50:30 |
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CHAOS. ANYBODY CAN READ ABOUT THE EXEMPTION IN THE AREAS OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THIS WAS SO SPECIFIC TO MENTION EVERY PLACE IN LOUISIANA. THIS DID...
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| 00:52:35 |
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TO THE TRUTH OF HISTORY -- THERE WAS ONE DEBATE THAT I WAS IN, THIS WAS PUBLISHED -- THE DEBATE ENDED OVER SECESSION, SO WHAT IS THE FOCUS OF ALL OF...
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| 00:52:55 |
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DO WE HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS ABOUT THE PURSUIT OF TRUTH IN HISTORY. MILITARY MIGHT WAS USED TO SHOW THAT THIS WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, WE HAVE...
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| 00:53:43 |
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LIKE YOU, AND PEOPLE WHO PRESSURE YOU TO THINK
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| 00:53:46 |
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LIKE THEM, AND THEY WILL PUNISH YOU PROFESSIONALLY IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS, THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE EXPANSION OF KNOWLEDGE, AND THE GENERATION OF IDEAS...
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| 00:54:30 |
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PERSONALLY ATTACK THE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE. THEY ARE ALL BASED ON THE ARGUMENTS OF LINCOLN.
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| 00:54:35 |
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THESE STATES WERE NEVER AT SOVRAN, AND THE UNION CREATED THE STATES. -- SOVEREIGN, AND THE UNION TREATED THE STATES. THIS ACTUALLY BEGAN WITH ALEXANDER...
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| 00:55:30 |
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I WAS CONFIDENT THAT I HAD DONE VERY WELL. THE MAGAZINE --
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| 00:55:36 |
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THIS WAS ON LINE. THERE IS A LITTLE ARTICLE BY JAMES MCPHERSON AND HE IS TAKING THE SIDE OF MY OPPONENT. I WAS NOT INVITED TO RESPOND ON THIS. HE IS...
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| 00:57:20 |
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THE CENTER FOR ECONOMIC EDUCATION WITH MANY ARTICLES -- BY MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THESE PEOPLE WHO
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| 00:57:31 |
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WERE THE LEADERS OF THE CLASSICAL LIBERALISM, LIBERTARIANISM. I BEGAN TO EDUCATE MYSELF IN THIS TRADITION. I STAYED WITH US FOR SEVERAL DECADES. -- THIS...
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| 00:58:16 |
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BETRAYED THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. I SPOKE ABOUT THESE IDEAS, THEY
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| 00:58:23 |
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WERE UNIVERSALLY BAD AND WE HAVE ADOPTED THEM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THOMAS DILORENZO, THE AUTHOR OF "LINCOLN UNMASKED: WHAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO...
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| 00:58:49 |
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DVD, PLEASE CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN. FOR A TRANSCRIPT OR TO GIVE US YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, GO TO THE WEB SITE. THIS IS ALSO
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AVAILABLE AS A PODCAST. >>
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NEXT, WE WILL HAVE A DOCUMENTARY ON THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.