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HAS EXPERIENCED WIDESPREAD VIOLENCE SINCE THE 1991 COUP. THIS IS JUST OVER 90 MINUTES. >>
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| 00:00:15 |
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GOOD AFTERNOON. MY DAIN -- MY NAME IS DAVID SPA. I'M IN CHARGE OF THE CENTER FOR MEDIATION AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION. BEFORE ANY OTHER INTRODUCTORY REMARKS,...
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| 00:01:00 |
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UNFORTUNATELY, THE WORLD PAYS LITTLE ATTENTION TO THE TRAGIC SITUATION IN SOMALIA, WHICH HAS CONTINUED FOR MANY YEARS. AS YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN NO...
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| 00:06:46 |
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THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS SOMALIA. I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SEE A NUMBER OF A FAMILY FATE -- A NUMBER OF FAMILIAR FACES. I SAW YOU. I SAW MANY OTHERS. I...
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| 00:23:14 |
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SOMALIS LIVING ABROAD. 300,000 ARE LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY LIVE IN CANADA. 300,000 IN THE U.K. AROUND 30,000 IN SWEDEN. ALMOST HALF A MILLION AND...
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| 00:34:01 |
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WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SENT QUESTIONS -- SINK QUESTIONS. WE KNOW THERE ARE A VARIETY OF POINTS OF VIEWS. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF WHEN YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION....
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| 00:34:44 |
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NOT ESPECIALLY REALISTIC? THE REFERENDUM ON THE CONSTITUTION, THE ELECTIONS. >> DO YOU WANT TO TAKE SEVERAL QUESTIONS? >> YES. >> I REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION...
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| 00:35:15 |
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TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE. IN 2006,
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| 00:35:17 |
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THE UN REPRESENTED IN SOMALIA CEMENTED A REPORT TO THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL AND WHICH
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| 00:35:25 |
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IT SAID 700 SOMALIS WERE SENT TO AS THE LEAD TO FIGHT. -- THEY WERE SENT TO HEZBOLLAH TO FIGHT. LATER ON, THE UN APOLOGIZED AND THEY FOUND THAT INFORMATION...
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| 00:36:35 |
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WOULD BE AN
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| 00:36:36 |
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INTERESTING ISSUE FOR YOU TO ADDRESS. THE FLIP SIDE OF THE COIN OF NEGOTIATION
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| 00:36:42 |
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STRATEGY IS HOW TO BRING SOME LEVERAGE TO THE TABLE ON TALKS THAT HAVE GONE ON FOR 20 YEARS BUT HAVE RARELY HAD ANY LEVERAGE. YOU MENTIONED THE ICC. I...
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| 00:37:56 |
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YEARS TO HAVE THE PRESENT TRANSITION ENDING BY DECEMBER TO THE HOUSE AND NINE -- DECEMBER 2009. TO ME, IT IS THE LEVERAGE AND A SORT OF A PROBLEM. IF...
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| 00:47:18 |
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THEY HAVE A PEACE PROCESS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA. THEY SAID THE COUNTRY MORE THAN 30 YEARS UNTIL THE U.N. AND U.S. ARE NOW ASKING TO GET OUT OF THE...
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| 00:49:52 |
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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I DO NOT KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP THE WAY YOU KNOW IT. SOMALIA AND ETHIOPIA, AS A FORCE CAME LAST DECEMBER, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT...
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| 00:52:35 |
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PATH. WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN ON OUR BEHALF. SOMEONE ENTERED ITS GRATITUDE FOR A SCHEME FAVORED -- FOR ASKING MORE FAVORS. YOU HAVE SAID...
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| 00:54:10 |
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ENFORCE FOR ITS OWN CITIZENS. IT IS ONE WHICH DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS A SYSTEM GIVEN TO IT BY FOREIGNERS IS HARDLY EVER ANYTHING BUT SYMPATHY OF ONE DISPORTED...
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| 00:54:25 |
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TO THE GENERAL SOMALIS, TO THE TROOPS COME TO THE INSURGENT, TO THE MILITANT -- WE ARE DYING EVERY DAY. WHAT CAN YOU DO TO CONDEMN THE USE OF THE DIFFERENCES?...
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| 00:55:09 |
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A CITIZEN OF WHERE? >> I AM A U.S. CITIZEN. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. >> YOU ARE
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| 00:55:19 |
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THE ENVOY FROM SOMALIA. >> WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN. I HAVE NOTHING TO
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| 00:55:25 |
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DO WITH BETWEEN YOU. >>
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| 00:55:27 |
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| 00:55:29 |
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| 00:55:30 |
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WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN. YOU ARE AMERICAN. WRITE TO YOUR U.S. CONGRESSMEN. YOU HAVE
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| 00:55:35 |
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AN ELECTION COMING. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY. I CANNOT INTERFERE WITH
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| 00:55:41 |
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YOU
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| 00:55:43 |
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KIT U. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>
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| 00:55:51 |
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I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. WE HAVE NO GOVERNMENT -- WE HAVE
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| 00:56:03 |
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A GOVERNMENT AND MY OPINION WE HAVE A GOOD QUALITY. I AGREE WITH MY BROTHER, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PARTICULARLY ETHIOPIA FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS. AS...
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| 00:56:19 |
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CONGRESSMEN WOULD BE THE SAME WITH ME TO SAY THERE ARE NO TERRORIST IN SOMALIA. IT IS MISLEADING TO YET WE HAVE TO AVOID THAT. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN...
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| 00:58:14 |
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YOU THINK THAT IF WE
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| 00:58:18 |
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CONDEMN, WE MAKE A CONDEMNATION AND IT SOLVES A PROBLEM OF SOMALIA. MY SINCERE CONVICTION, AND I HAVE BEEN A STUDENT.
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| 00:58:30 |
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THIS IS EVERYTHING. AMERICAN IN VIETNAM. I WAS CONSERVATIVE. I THINK TODAY, WITH A SMALL IN CAPACITY TO UNITE, SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE, -- HAVING THE...
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| 01:00:23 |
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THEY MAY BE WRONG. THEREFORE THE ORGANIZATION TO MOVE SOMALIA. THEY INVITED THESE GOVERNMENTS. WHAT SHOULD
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| 01:00:33 |
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GUIDE TO? YOU KNOW, THE LAST CONFERENCE WAS THE LAST -- THEY RECOGNIZE YOUR GOVERNMENT. -- WHAT SHOULD I DO? THE AFRICAN UNION SUMMIT RECOGNIZES YOUR...
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| 01:01:24 |
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OF THE CIVILIAN ECONOMY THEY TALK ABOUT, WHAT THE ROLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES ARE IN
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| 01:01:28 |
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THIS PROCESS -- GIVEN THE NATURE
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| 01:01:32 |
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OF THE SOMALIA ECONOMY. HOW CAN THEY, OR SHOULD THEY PLAY A ROLE IN THIS PROCESS. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A BROCHURE HERE THAT WILL GIVE YOU. THANK YOU VERY...
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| 01:02:01 |
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IN BANKING, IN IMPORT AND EXPORT OF LIVESTOCK, AND OF COURSE AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS. THE NUMBER OF COUNTRIES HAVE TRIED TO HELP. ESPECIALLY THE MIDDLE...
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| 01:05:49 |
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WE HAVE 3 MILLION SOMALIS ALL OVER THE GROWTH THAT ARE WITNESSING WHAT IS GOING ON IN SOMALIA. IN LAST MAY OF 2007, WHAT EVER HAPPENED, THE HUMAN RIGHTS...
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| 01:07:52 |
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AREA AND I'M NOT WIN THE SEPARATIST AGENDA -- I'M NOT WITH THE SEPARATIST AGENDA. WE HAVE BEEN
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| 01:07:59 |
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DOING WELL KEEPING THE PEACE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM THE UN
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| 01:08:04 |
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FROM THE POLITICAL ASPECT, SINCE WE ARE FOCUSING ON DEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT, -- PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE THAT WE RAISED EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD...
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| 01:08:53 |
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FOR ALL SOMALIA AND SOME SENSE, NOT TO SUFFER FOR IMPUNITY, WITH OF THE CAUSES. -- FOR ALL SOMALIA CITIZENS. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT INDIVIDUALS...
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| 01:12:38 |
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PLACE? >> CALL THEM WHAT EVERYONE. NOWHERE IN OUR REGION. WE WERE WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE BEEN VERY SMART FOR 17 YEARS. IT WAS BEING IGNORED....
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| 01:12:56 |
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ATTENTION OUR RECOGNITION WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS IN THE NORTH OF SOMALIA. THAT'S MY QUESTION. DO NOT AVOID IT. >>
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| 01:13:03 |
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I'M NOT TRYING TO AVOID IT. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTAND IT. I'M NOT SMART. PLEASE. LOOK, YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT PEOPLE DO NOT ALWAYS UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING....
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| 01:13:24 |
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IT IS YES, I ASKED FOR THE PRESIDENT AND HIS PEOPLE ABOUT IT. THEY TOLD ME, THE BRITISH DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING IT IS RIGHT OR...
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| 01:14:35 |
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I VISITED AND THEY ARE BUILDING A WONDERFUL AIRPORT. A $20 MILLION -- I WILL TELL YOU SIT ANYHOW, THE SOMALI LAND TAUGHT ME THAT THEY HAVE EIGHT BORDER...
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| 01:14:52 |
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| 01:14:54 |
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ONCE AGAIN, IF SOMEONE IS UNITED,
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| 01:14:56 |
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THERE'S NO PROBLEM. THE BRITISH ARE VERY BUREAUCRATIC. THIS IS FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD. >> LAWRENCE FRIEDMAN. I HOPE IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO BRING IN QUESTIONS...
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| 01:15:26 |
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IF I AM INTERPRETING YOUR REMARKS CORRECTLY. I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. IF THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTIVE...
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| 01:16:21 |
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HAS BEEN TRUMPED TOO MANY TIMES BY CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT IT MISSION THINGS IS THE EFFECTIVE WAY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE ARE...
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| 01:16:58 |
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LONG AS YOU ARE NOT UNITED, YOU ARE OPEN TO THE EXTERNAL INTERFERENCE. HE WOULD HAVE A FACTION INSIDE THE COUNTRY. AGAIN, EVEN IF AMERICANS ARE WRONG,...
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| 01:17:55 |
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LIKE TO CHALLENGE AN OLD FRIEND WHEN YOU SAY THERE IS NO INTEREST IN SMALL YET. -- IN SOMALIA. THE LAST TIME THE HEADS OF THE AGENCY'S CAME TOGETHER AT...
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| 01:19:27 |
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YOU HAVE BEEN IN WEST AFRICA. YOU HAVE BEEN -- A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
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| 01:19:39 |
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I CALL ON YOU FOR OPINION AND ITS SIZE. I'M
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| 01:19:43 |
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VERY HAPPY TO SEE YOU TODAY. MY STRATEGY, OR MY APPROACH I SAY, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO MAKE THEM PUBLIC BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN...
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| 01:23:31 |
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PRINCIPLES AND HUMANITARIANISM AND THEIR CORPORATE USE OF THE RESOURCES BEING PROVIDED. THERE IS MISTRUST. >> THE AMBASSADOR HAS TO LEAD IN THREE MINUTES....
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| 01:24:04 |
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OF GLUM ABOUT THE IDEA OF MCCUDDY INTERESTED IN SOMALIA. I AM SO OLD THAT I AM WITH EUNICE SOM, TOO. SO I BROUGHT YOU SOME
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| 01:24:16 |
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PICTURES FOR WITH OTHER -- FOR WHATEVER IT MAY BE WORTH TO YOU. HOSTING ABOUT THIS IDEA OF BUSINESS. I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF U.N. PEACEKEEPING MISSIONS,...
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| 01:26:20 |
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I HAVE
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| 01:26:23 |
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A PROBLEM IN NEW YORK. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMALIA.
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| 01:26:26 |
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I DO NOT KNOW HOW. WE KNOW, MY LAST FEW YEARS WAS IN WASHINGTON, AND I HAVE A GOOD GROUP OF FRIENDS, SOME EUROPEAN, WHO BELIEVE IN BUSINESS. AND FOR...
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| 01:29:24 |
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I HAVE A
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| 01:29:29 |
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| 01:29:30 |
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PROPOSAL. I WILL BE WRITTEN PROPOSAL FOR ISLAMIC WAY TO
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| 01:29:34 |
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RESOLVE CONFLICT IN RECONCILE AND SOMALIA. IT HAS QUOTATIONS FROM
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| 01:29:37 |
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THE IRAN, AND I AM -- FROM CUARON, AND IN SUGGESTING THAT YOU LOOK AT THIS, AND THAT WILL GIVE IT TO YOU. IF YOU LIKE IT, YOU CAN USE IT. [APPLAUSE]...
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| 01:29:50 |
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WE HAVE TO CLOSE. >> I WANT TO SUPPORT. THE TALK WAS ABOUT ETHIOPIA. ETHIOPIA DENIED AND IN SOMALIA.
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| 01:30:18 |
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SOMALIA PARLIAMENT ASKED THEM TO INTERVENE. THEY WENT, SO THAT WAS A MISTAKE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT ALL THAT LONG. ETHIOPIA NEVER CAME TO SOMALIA.
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| 01:30:33 |
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NEVER KILLED ANYBODY FROM SOMALIA. WHO IS ATTACKING? >> I AM AFRAID WE WILL HAVE A CIVIL WAR HERE IF THIS CONTINUES. [LAUGHTER] >> I WANT TO THANK YOU...
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| 01:31:03 |
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| 01:31:12 |
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YOU'RE WATCHING C-SPAN CREATED BY THE CABLE INDUSTRY AND PRESENTED AS A PUBLIC SERVICE. THIS IS COMING UP AND ABOUT 50 MINUTES, A FINANCIAL UPDATE ON...
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