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ALL WEEKEND OF THIS MEETING. >>
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SURF >> AS WE GET TO START WITH THIS MEETING, WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE LIVE COVERAGE OF THE MEETING TOMORROW. THE SESSION...
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| 00:01:37 |
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OUR GUEST WILL DISCUSS IT -- MAKING IT EASIER ON SMALL BUSINESSES TO MAKE HEALTH CARE AVAILABLE. >> AS WE WAIT FOR THE SESSION TO GET UNDER WAY WITH...
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| 00:03:14 |
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YOU CAN SEE IT AT 6:30 P.M. AND 9:30 P.M. EASTERN HERE ON C- SPAN. >> WE ARE LIVE AT THE NATIONAL GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION WINTER MEETING. WE EXPECT...
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| 00:06:56 |
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LET ME JUST THINK ALL OF YOU AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH OUR MEETING. BEING HERE, IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC -- FIRST OF ALL, I WILL MENTION IT SHARE OF THE...
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| 00:13:02 |
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WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE MEMBERS. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE ENERGY PRODUCED FOR THIS COUNTRY. TO MY RIGHT IS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE DIRECTOR....
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| 00:20:52 |
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ENVIRONMENT. WE THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A REALISTIC WAY. WE THINK WE CAN ALL DO CONSERVATION. WE ALL HAVE BIOMASS. WE ALL HAVE SOLAR AND WIND, SOME...
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| 00:22:48 |
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OF ALL, ABOUT WOOD MACKENZIE -- WE ARE NOT WELL KNOWN, BUT WE ARE AND ENERGY CONSULTING COMPANY. WE DO WITH ALL SECTORS OF THE ENERGY BUSINESS. WE PRIDE...
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| 00:36:47 |
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CAPTURE AND STORAGE. FROM 2004-2007 JONATHAN WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR A CENTER OF SUSTAINABLE ENERGY, A MEMBER OF THE COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY INSTITUTE...
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| 00:37:26 |
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FOR THE WORK GOING ON IN YOUR STATES. RENEWABLE ENERGY DESERVES EVERY L SELF-PROMOTION, BUT KOHL IS IMPORTANT. -- EVERY OUNCE OF SELF- PROMOTION, BUT...
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| 00:51:05 |
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THANK YOU >>, THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE SEQUESTRATION TECHNOLOGY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POWER PLANTS IN MICHIGAN...
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| 00:51:33 |
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LAKES AND THEREFORE WE HAVE THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF STORAGE SPACE BENEATH US BECAUSE OF THE REASON WE LET OUT OF. WE CURRENTLY STORE TO DO WE LAY ON TOP...
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| 00:52:39 |
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OF THE REGION, IT IS HARD TO GIVE -- AND GEOLOGY'SIES OF THE REGION, IT IS HARD TO GIVE AN EXACT PRICE. I WOULD PUT A SMALL TEAM TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT...
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| 00:53:57 |
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AND PRICE THAT YOU USE THAT? -- USED?
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| 00:54:04 |
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I -- >> BY IN GENERAL THE GROWTH PATH I WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE -- IN GENERAL THE GROWTH THAT I WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE TO THE CUBIC FEET PER DAY, UNDER 4%...
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| 00:55:11 |
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PRICES, I AM NOT SURE WE WANT TO COMPETE IN SUCH MARKETS FOR THOSE CARGOES. LET THEM FLOAT INITIALLY TO MARKETS THAT ARE WILLING TO PAY THE PRICE FOR...
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| 00:55:25 |
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EVENTUALLY WE BEGIN TO NEED TO PAY OIL-BASE PRICES. THETHEREFORE WE COMPETE ON EQUAL TERMS. >> ESSENTIALLY THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY COST-FREE ITEM?...
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| 00:56:02 |
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THE CONSEQUENCES OF YEAR. -- GAS TO END AT SOME POINT FIND THE CONSEQUENCES SEVERE. IF YOU HAVE A COST ATTACHED TO CO2, BECAUSE IT IS TRUE, IT WILL PRODUCE...
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| 00:57:07 |
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IN ITS LESS PER UNIT. IT IS A CO2 BASED REGULATION APPLYING ACROSS SOURCES. >> ON THIS SEQUESTRATION, WE ARE PASSING A BILL FOR A REGULATORY
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| 00:57:22 |
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STRUCTURE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PILOTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. WE HAVE A GEOLOGICAL SURVEY IDENTIFYING ALL OF THOSE SERVICES. -- SOURCES.
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| 00:57:38 |
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THE PART I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU ON IS THE MULTI-STATE CAVAN TRADE SYSTEMS, I THINK IT BALKANIZES THE ECONOMY. WHAT DO THINK? >> EVENTUALLY I AGREE WITH...
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| 00:58:14 |
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THE CLIMATE INITIATIVE WILL BE MOOT. THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC, THERE IS A LOT OF HARD WORK THE GOES INTO THAT. I THINK IT IS FOSSIL YET THEY'RE WRONG. THE...
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| 00:59:07 |
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HE
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| 00:59:09 |
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WOULDN'T TAKE THE BET. THOSE OF US INVOLVED IN
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| 00:59:18 |
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ENERGY, MANY OF US HAVE TALKED OF THIS BEFORE. YESTERDAY WE HEARD TALK OF BE IN CHINA FOR ONE--- BEATING CHINA FOR ONE DAY, I WILL TURN TO YOU, JOHN...
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| 01:01:21 |
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THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WOULD BE THE IMPLICATIONS OF VOICES -- IMPLEMENTATION OF A SYSTEM, THE REASON ARAB TERRORISM -- THE REASON THAT THOMAS JEFFERSON...
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| 01:04:46 |
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AT THE SAME TIME, THE ABATEMENT COST CURVE
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| 01:04:57 |
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IS COMING DOWN AS IT IS DEVELOPED. AT SOME POINT THEY MEET IN YOU GET A HORN -- AT SOME POINT IN ME. >> YOU ARE SAYING THAT CARBON HAS NOW -- AND EACH...
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| 01:05:42 |
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PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE, IT NEEDS TO BE DISTINGUISHED. THAT IS AT VARIANCE WITH THE INTERSTATE GAS COMPETITION.
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| 01:05:50 |
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HAVING IS NOT THE SAME AS
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| 01:05:58 |
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STORING IT IN AND I SEMI- PERMANENT STATE. IF YOU
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| 01:06:01 |
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CAN HAVE AN IMMENSE PROJECT WHERE THE SEA OF TUESDAY'S UNDERGROUND PERMANENTLY -- CO2 STAYS ON A RAMP FROM L.A., YOU CAN KEEP THE CATEGORIES CLEAR. >>...
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| 01:06:38 |
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HE SAID THAT BEFORE FUNDS WERE SPENT ON
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| 01:06:42 |
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OTHER RENEWABLE, AND THAT MONEY ON CARBON CAPTURE IN SEQUESTRATION. >> I WAS SAYING IT DESERVES MORE TIME, NOT SPEAKING CHRONOLOGICALLY. WHY SHOULD...
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| 01:07:13 |
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THE THINGS THAT THE CEO OF GENERAL ELECTRIC TOLD US WAS THAT THE DIVERSIFICATION WAS IMPORTANT WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS IS THE -- ENERGY...
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| 01:07:34 |
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FORT SOLAR POTENTIAL -- FOR SOLAR POWER PANEL -- SOLAR POTENTIAL. WE ARE FOCUSING OUR MONEY ON A BROAD RANGE OF RENEWABLE OPTIONS. SOME OF THAT MIGHT...
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| 01:09:07 |
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FAILURE -- I PERCEIVE THAT THERE TO BE SOMETHING AKIN TO A MARKET FAILURE. THERE IS A LARGE PORTION OF CO2 EMISSIONS THAT COAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. IF...
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| 01:10:19 |
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IS THERE ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE THAT WOULD ASSIST IN -- WOULD BE EASIER TO MAINTAIN? IS THAT ON THE HORIZON? >> IS YOUR...
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| 01:11:00 |
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CARBON IN ANY FORM THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO MAINTAIN IN A STABLE
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| 01:11:05 |
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FORM OTHER THAN CARBON DIOXIDE. SOME RESEARCH THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT IS ON THE SIDE OF, LEVELING POWER LOADS IN AIDS. MINIMIZING THE NEED FOR BOTH GENERATION...
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| 01:12:01 |
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EXTRACT IT DISEASE IS SPREAD THE ATMOSPHERE. THERE IS A COMPANY IN ARIZONA 1/2. PEOPLE AT LOS ALAMOS ARE TALKING U.S. SOMETHING. I WOULD SAY THE SECOND...
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| 01:13:30 |
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DO. >> IS A PART OF OUR CALCULATIONS AND THAT SUPPLY.
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| 01:13:40 |
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THERE IS A 25 FORECAST FOR U.S. OIL PRODUCTION REMAINING IN THE 8 MILLION IBERT OVERBEAR
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| 01:13:54 |
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RANGE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AND DIMENSIONAL RESOURCES IS NECESSARY TO HOLD THE INCOME LEVEL DOWN TO 69%. I WANT THE JURY WHERE, IT IS ALL HANDS ON DECK....
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| 01:14:46 |
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THERE IS A AND. WATER CONSUMPTION IS A BIG ISSUE. IT IS A CURIOUS TEST, PARTICULARLY THIS IS A STATE WHERE WALL. ALSO, HOW MUCH PROJECTION LIGHT AND ELECTRICITY...
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| 01:16:12 |
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WE ARE ALREADY GOING FROM A PATTERN OF TWO-THIRDS-1 IN OUR OF RIGHT NOW, AT THAT INTO ACCOUNT FORD NOT JUST SMART RED, THERE ARE OTHERS, OF A. AS TECHNOLOGY...
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| 01:18:05 |
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LITTLE BIT OF REALITY. >> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING. >> UTILITIES AND DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THE COST OF ENSURING
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| 01:18:25 |
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| 01:18:28 |
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PEACEFUL.
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| 01:18:31 |
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MANY UTILITIES ARE COVERING MORE THAN HALF OF NORTH AMERICA. THIS MAY OCCUR, THE STRUCTURE OF THE INVESTMENTS IS NOT IN PLACE AND IT IS WORSE THAN I...
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| 01:21:29 |
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THAT IS ALL UNDER THE NEW TAB WOULD YOU WELL, WHEN WE GET ON WITH THIS VOTE WE NEED DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE...
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| 01:22:49 |
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AS YOU
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| 01:22:51 |
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PARTICIPATED
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| 01:22:52 |
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YESTERDAY AND SAW THE CONCERNS WE ALL HAVE FOR WHENEVER REGION OF THE COUNTRY COME FROM, WE KNOW ONE THING, THE APPETITE FOR ENERGY WILL CONTINUE TO...
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| 01:23:04 |
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TO MEET THAT DEMAND. WE KNOW WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO MAKE THE MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WHAT I HEARD YESTERDAY IS THAT RENEWALS HAVE -- OR SOMETHING...
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| 01:25:56 |
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IT PLAYS A GROWING ROLE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WITH A GREENHOUSE GAS INITIATIVE THAT RESULTS IN A COST OF $25. NUCLEAR GENERATION TAKES OFF LATE NEXT DECADE....
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| 01:26:20 |
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BUILDS TOWARDS 4,000 MEGAWATTS PER YEAR. IT IS A GROWTH PART OF THE ENERGY MIX IN OUR VIEW. IT IS DIFFICULT TO AVOID. IF WE SAID NO TO THAT AND IT DID...
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| 01:27:01 |
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FINANCE, AND TRYING TO WRAP UP THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OTHER GOVERNORS HAVE OVER CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN WRITING IN FRONT OF YOU AS WE PASS THAT ON TO THE...
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| 01:29:15 |
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WE HAVE ONLY A TWO YEAR INVESTMENT TAX CREDIT IN JEER YOW THERMAL, WHICH IN MY VIEW SEVERELY DAMPENS THE DEVELOPMENT OF ONE OF OUR MOST UNIQUE AND...
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| 01:30:05 |
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ENERGY SOURCES THAT ARE
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| 01:30:07 |
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AVAILABLE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF YESTERDAY
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| 01:30:09 |
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IS THAT -- AND IT WAS SAID HERE TODAY, ALL HANDS ON DECK. YOU HAD A PHRASE ABOUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE EVERYTHING AND WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS I AM OK...
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| 01:31:58 |
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NEXT YEAR IF THOSE CREDITS GO AWAY. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK WIND HAS BEEN AT TWO YEARS ACTUALLY, AND IT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT IS...
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| 01:33:26 |
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THE PRICE OF THE PAPER THAT IT IS
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| 01:33:28 |
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PRINTED ON AND THAT IT CAN HAVE SOME TEETH INTO IT. SO PERHAPS WE CAN -- WHEN IS THIS DUE ANYWAY? WHEN DO THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM US? >> QUICKLY....
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| 01:33:57 |
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HEARING IS THAT THE
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| 01:33:58 |
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POLICIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, THAT YOU WANT TO SEE EXTENDED BASICALLY IS THE CREDITS FOR RENEWABLES. WITH THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL RENEWABLES...
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| 01:34:15 |
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RATHER HAVE ONE LETTER BEING CONCISE IN HOW WE DO IT. WE CAN DO THAT VERY QUICKLY OR GIVE OUR RECOMMENDATION VERY QUICKLY AND MAYBE COME OUT AND I WILL...
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| 01:34:51 |
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50%, AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GOING DOWN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF ANYTHING IT'S GOING TO RISE BY 20, 30. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT IN THE BEST...
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| 01:35:01 |
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THAT WE CAN USING ALL THE TECHNOLOGIES AND GIVING INCENTIVES TO CREATE THOSE TECHNOLOGIES TO COME ON QUICKER. I THINK WE ARE SAYING THAT. JONATHAN,...
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| 01:36:04 |
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WINDS DURING TYPHOONS. >> TYPHOON GENERATED RENEWABLES. >> IT'S INCONSISTENT. ANYWAY, AND SOLAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE. JUST...
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| 01:36:33 |
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DOWN BECAUSE OF
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| 01:36:35 |
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ITS COST. IT'S EATING AWAY SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE N.M.I. SO THE ONLY VIABLE SOURCE OF ENERGY THAT WE HAVE, WHICH WE HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THE TECHNOLOGY...
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| 01:37:40 |
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ALSO TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THE FUTURE TO TRY TO
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| 01:37:43 |
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BALANCE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO I WANT THEM TO DO THE EASY THINGS TO EXTEND THE CREDITS AND THEN WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO GET INTO A BIG DEBATE...
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| 01:38:37 |
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IN ADDITION TO THIS LETTER ARE
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| 01:38:40 |
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STRONG DESIRE TO MAKE SEWER THAT ALL OF OUR ENERGY THAT WE ARE PRODUCING NOW
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| 01:38:45 |
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HAS THE INCENTIVES TO BE DONE IN A SAFER, CLEANER MANNER? >> I THINK THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF THIS. THE CONVERSATION I HEARD YESTERDAY AT LUNCH,
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| 01:38:55 |
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THERE WAS SOME BREAKDOWN AMONG GOVERNORS BECAUSE I THINK THEY BELIEVE THAT WE WERE MOVING A LITTLE TOO FAST ON WHAT THE TEMPLATE SHOULD BE FOR OUR ENERGY...
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| 01:39:11 |
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HAD NOT HAD ENOUGH PLAY IN THE CONVERSATION. I THINK THEY WERE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT CAP IN TRADE OR CARBON TAX OR THINGS LIKE THAT AS A PART...
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| 01:40:33 |
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ARE EXPANDING COMMERCIAL PILOT PROGRAMS, TAX CREDITS AND OTHER FINANCIAL INCREPTIVES. >> THAT STILL WORKS FOR ME. >> WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. >> IT'S...
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| 01:41:00 |
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TAKEN -- I DON'T
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| 01:41:01 |
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THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR TAKEN A
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| 01:41:03 |
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POSITION ON THE CARBON TAX OR TRADES OR CAP IN TRADES OR ANY OF THAT AT THIS TIME, JONATHAN. WE ARE NOT -- I DON'T THINK I AM SUGGESTING OR THAT WE...
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| 01:41:17 |
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THAN
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| 01:41:18 |
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JULY. BUT IF IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE
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| 01:41:20 |
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GET A LETTER OUT NOW ENCOURAGING TO ADOPT AND EXTEND THE CREDITS THAT WE HAVE AND ALSO REAFFIRM OUR POSITION AS WE VOTE ON IN 207 IS THAT WHAT -- >>...
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| 01:41:52 |
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AYE. >> AYE. >>
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| 01:41:53 |
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OPPOSED. >> ACTUALLY
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| 01:41:55 |
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RESHOULD DEFEAT THE MOTION JUST TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE. >> IT'S DIFFICULT
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| 01:42:00 |
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ENOUGH.
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| 01:42:03 |
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IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS COMING
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| 01:42:05 |
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BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, I DECLARE THIS MEETING
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| 01:42:12 |
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BE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. >>
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| 01:42:14 |
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| 01:42:16 |
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THANKS. >>
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| 01:42:22 |
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| 01:42:37 |
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AS THE SESSION OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION WINTER MEETING COMES TO A CLOSE WE WILL BRING YOU MORE LIVE COVERAGE OF THE GOVERNORS TOMORROW....
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| 01:46:18 |
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TIME TO TURN THE PAGE. >> I WILL BE OUR PARTY'S NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> TOGETHER WE WILL SEIZE THIS MOMENT,
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