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NOT OBSERVING OTHERS. THAT YOU CAN IN THIS STORY, FOR EXAMPLE, I SAY I DIDN'T KNOW MY MOTHER WAS A SECRET DRINKER. I LIVED WITH MY MOTHER MY WHOLE ...

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BIG CHEATER. I DIDN'T GET THAT. YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU THINK, OH, MY GOD! IT'S SO OBVIOUS. BUT WHILE YOU'RE IN THE THICK OF LIFE, YOU DON'T SEE THESE...

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CALL G. >> Guest: YES. >> Host: WHO IS THAT? >> Guest: THAT'S MY PHILANDER BOYFRIEND IN THE STORY. >> Host: CAN YOU TELL THE STORY OR AT LEAST

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HE'S REALLY HANDSOME. HE'S TALL. HE'S

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OF

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OF YEARS AND THEN IT TURNED OUT THAT I WAS NOT ALONE IN HIS

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SAYS, AH, THERE'S ANOTHER WOMAN. MEN CAN'T BE ALONE. MEN CAN'T BE

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BEING FERRIED ABOUT AND WHO HAD THE PREROGATIVE OR THE PRIVILEGE? IT'S NOT SO CLEAR. IT'S THE OLD WORLD WAY AND AS I WENT THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE,...

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I WAS GETTING INTO AND NOT BE SO QUICK TO GIVE UP BIG PARTS OF MYSELF FOR ANOTHER PERSON, ANOTHER THING WOMEN DO A LOT OF. AND, FOR EXAMPLE, CAN YOU...

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INTERNET? >> Guest: YES. I'M A BIG INTERNET

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WITH PEOPLE THAT OFTEN END BADLY BECAUSE ON THE INTERNET IT'S NOT REALLY A PERSON, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE PERSON. YOU'RE

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HAD A ROMANTIC DISASTER. SHE THINKS ABOUT MEN, YOU KNOW, AND I'M THINKING, WELL,

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WE DON'T CARE ABOUT MEN. WOMEN NEED MEN LIKE FISH NEED

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AN AUTONOMOUS AND INDIVIDUAL LIFE AS FLOURISHING AND CHOICE AND SELF-EXPRESSION

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FEMINISTS. >> Host: WOMEN GROWING UP MAY HAVE A SENSE OF FEMINISM BUT THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS IN THE 1950s AND '60s? >>

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INVOLVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SOCIAL EQUALITY, FOR EXAMPLE, THINK ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS SOCIETY ARE REALLY VERY BLOCKED FROM DEVELOPING THEMSELVES...

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SHADOW, YOU KNOW,

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HER THROAT, BUT THIS IS NOT

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THE COLOR OF HILLARY CLINTON'S PANTSUIT. THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF HILLARY CLINTON WAS A MAN. >> Host: AND THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT THE COLOR OF MEN'S SUITS...

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DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I THINK THEY HAVE ALL DIFFERENT RESPONSES. I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE OF THE I'M NOT A FEMINISM BUT YES, I AGREE WOMEN SHOULD HAVE...

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MALE CHAUVINISTS WHO ARE SCARED AND SO THEY -- EVERY TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT, SAY, IN THE NATION YOU GET THESE MEN WOMEN HAVE ALL THE PRIVILEGES....

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Host: UH-HUH? >> Guest: AND NOBODY WOULD BAT AN EYELASH AT ME WRITING ABOUT LOVE IN AN INTENSE AND ROMANTIC WAY. IT'S BECAUSE I'M A POLITICAL WRITER...

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I'M NOT COMPARING MYSELF TO THEM

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MEN. AND HOW -- WELL, YOU KNOW, THE OLDER YOU

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IS -- NO

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ELSEWHERE ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS OKAY TO WRITE LIKE THIS. AND THERE I HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY, FROM YOUNGER FEMINISTS, AND THAT WHO ARE NOT SO...

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Guest: THE IDEA OF THAT SHE'S A BIG FAN IS A CONSTRUCT FOR THAT REVIEW. SHE HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOR OR PLAYFULNESS. WELL, I'M A WRITER SO NATURALLY I'M...

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AND HUMOROUSNESS AND I SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY NEXT TO ME SAY YOU SAY IT. BUT ANYWAY, I THINK, YOU

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THE

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I MOSTLY GET, YOU KNOW, VERY POSITIVE MAIL. I THINK THAT BOOK

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AUDIENCE. IT ENDED GETTING FABULOUS

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IN THE GUARDIAN IN THE U.K. AND IT GOT A REVIEW IN THE NEW YORK REVIEW OF BOOKS FROM KATHLEEN SHINE WHO'S A WONDERFUL WRITER. AND I GOT A WONDERFUL...

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THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AND THE THING IS, IT'S LIKE -- YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. IT'S LIKE MARGARET HAS A PASSAGE SOMEWHERE WHERE SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW...

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I'M A FAN OF YOURS. I READ YOU FOR YEARS. I READ YOUR COLUMN IN "THE NATION." I'M SO MUCH A FEMINIST THAT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE -- THERE SHOULD BE...

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TO BE WOMEN

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DECREE. BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT TO THE EXTENT HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD BE SEEN AS A FEMINIST OR SOMEBODY WORTHY OF FEMINIST SYMPATHY. ...

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SAY THIS. THIS ISN'T A POPULARITY CONTEST.

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BOTH CAMPS. AND THERE WERE -- I WROTE -- I SHOWED MY SOLIDARITY WITH THE WOMAN

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WENT TO CO-OP ONE OF THE PUSH SIGNATURE POLICIES IN INVASIONS FUNNELS MONEY. HE INCIDENT THE WEEK BY DROPPING HIS PREVIOUS LONG-HELD POSITION IN FAVOR...

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FOR YOU TO FINISH YOUR VOTE. WE'LL GO TO VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON. GO AHEAD. >> Caller: IT'S AN HONOR. I HAVE TO BE FOR NADER.

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MARKET FORCES. AND I THINK AS YOU KNOW, THE DEVASTATING EFFECTS OF THIS HAVE FALLEN

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ET CETERA. BUT THEN PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM ARE UNDER THE NAME OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY HELD TO JUST VERY, VERY SEVERE STANDARDS OF THE BEHAVIOR...

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LATER ON IN

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HPV ARE THE CAUSE

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OF

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SERIOUS DISEASE. AND FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS, THIS IS GOING TO MAKE GIRLS PROMISCUOUS. YES, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE 15 AND THINKING, SHIV SEX WITH MY BOYFRIEND?...

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A DEADLINE.

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TO WRITE A POEM EVERY OTHER WEEK LIKE I HAVE TO WRITE MY COLUMN, MAYBE I COULD DO THAT. BUT I LOVE TO HAVE THAT PRESSURE. >> Host: KATHA POLLITT IS...

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Guest: HI. >> Caller: YES. I HAVE TWO SUBJECTS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. THE FIRST SUBJECT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS WOMEN WHO IN MY OPINION...

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CLINTON -- LET ME

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CLINTON QUESTION REAL FAST ABOUT THE CLINTONS. I THINK THAT THE NETWORKS MADE UP THEIR MINDS IN THE LAST PART OF JANUARY TO THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY THAT...

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FEEL -- THE

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Guest: YEAH. >> Host: THE MEDIA EVEN THEN WAS AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON? >> Guest: YES. WELL, YOU KNOW, NIXON TOLD BILL CLINTON THAT HE HAD TO GET HILLARY...

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OF AMERICANS WHO FELT THAT WAY AND STILL DO. I MEAN, LOOK WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO MICHELLE OBAMA.

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AND WE'RE

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SHOULDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THEM? >> Guest: THAT WAS AN INTERESTING STORY BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN HOWARD DEAN WAS RUNNING. HIS WIFE, JUDY DEAN, WHO...

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DEATH" BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND FEMINISTS WHO IN THE POPULAR CULTURE ARE WRITING ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON WITH WOMEN AND

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WOMEN ARE TIED TO MEN

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SAY A GUY KILLS A WOMAN. IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD FIND HIS MOTHER SAYING WELL, HE SHOULD REALLY GO TO JAIL. HE KILLED A WOMAN. NO, SHE'S GOING TO...

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FRIENDLY SOCIETY, WHICH WAS AN EPISCOPALIAN GIRL SCOUT THING THAT MY FRIEND WAS INVOLVED IN AND IT WAS REALLY FUN. I REALLY ENJOYED IT. AND WE READ...

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AND I REMEMBER HAVING THIS THOUGHT, WENDY THINKS THAT THIS SUNSET WAS MADE BY GOD, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEAUTIFUL. BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE. I KNOW...

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COME. BUT I DO THINK ORGANIZED RELIGION HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN ON THE WRONG SIDE OF A LOT OF PROGRESS. I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST TO GO WAY, WAY BACK SOMETHING...

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DOCTOR. HER SPECIALTY IS INTERNAL MEDICINE. I'M A GYM AND MATH TEACHER

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OF INTERESTING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FEMINISM THAT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF GREAT WOMEN REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN MENTIONED MUCH LIKE MRS. THATCHER. ANGELA MERKEL,...

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ISSUE. YOU HAVE, I THINK, A MINORITY OF FEMINISTS WOMEN THAT TAKE CENTER RIGHT POSITIONS, TOO, LIKE PRESIDENT HOOVER'S GRANDDAUGHTER. SHE'S BEEN...

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THAT THEY SHOULD JUST GO HOME. THAT THERE'S NO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WOMEN IN EMPLOYMENT. THAT THEIR RIGHTS TO ABORTION AND BIRTH CONTROL SHOULD BE...

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THE INDEPENDENT WOMEN FORUM THING IS, ANY LAW THAT IS PASSED TO FIGHT DISCRIMINATION

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BRIDGE UP THERE, SO IT IS A TREMENDOUS RELIEF FROM THE SUFFERING OF WRITING. I WAKE UP VERY EARLY. I DIDN'T USE TO BUT ONCE YOU HAVE A CHILD YOU HAVE...

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CHAPTER FIVE. AND FOR ME IT IS MORE FLEXIBLE. I AM WRITING A SERIES OF POEMS THAT ARE BASED ON STORIES FROM THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT SO NATURALLY YOU...

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MY EXTREMELY CLOUDY SENSE OF WHAT THE POEM SHOULD BE AND WHERE IT IS GOING AND AT TIMES IT IS VERY HARD TO WRITE, VERY HARD TO RIDE. EVERY NOW AND THEN...

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OF OBJECTIVE GLENN SAVITT THAT YOU CAN'T WHEN

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WORD? BASICALLY I THINK YOU DO GET A SENSE THAT YOU HAVE DONE WHAT YOU CAN

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SHE WENT TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE VERY YOUNG AGE. BACK IN THE DEPRESSION THEY PUT KIDS THROUGH SCHOOL SO FAST SO

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ME. EVERYBODY THOUGHT THAT WAS

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I READ THEM LATER. IT WAS FASCINATING. IT WAS FASCINATING BECAUSE AS I SAID BEFORE

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OFFICIAL WAS THOUGHT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE

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COMPARISON BETWEEN THE WAY ALCOHOLISM IS THOUGHT OF

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FRIENDS WAS THE INFORMER, SO IT WAS A PRETTY WELL IN CULTURATED CIRCLE OF PEOPLE I THINK. AND I FELT SO BAD FOR HER HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE...

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A WOMAN PRESIDENT BUT ONE WHO VOTED FOR THE WAR AND HILLARY REFUSE TO READ THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE WHICH OPPOSE THE BUSH ARGUMENT. THEY...

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DID INFLUENCE YOUR WRITING? >> Guest: THIS WAS A

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MADE ME SEE HISTORY AS A NARRATIVE, AS THE VERY LONG STORY IN WHICH THINKER IS COME BACK AT DIFFERENT TIMES, IN WHICH SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN ONE...

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WANT TO WRITE NONFICTION, I THINK HE IS A GREAT PERSON TO MODEL YOUR STYLE ON BECAUSE HE HAS A WONDERFUL COMBINATION OF CANDOR, TRANSPARENCY. HE IS IN...

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SO ANXIOUS ABOUT YOUR WRITING, BUT IF YOU HAVE, IF THE SHOW HAS TO GO ON, IT IS LIKE BEING AN ACTOR IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE IS FEELING INSPIRED THAT...

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SOMEWHERE ELSE OF THAT WHEN I HAVE WRITTEN STORIES THAT ARE OUT A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE CURVE, THEY GO RIGHT BY PEOPLE. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE....

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FOR ME ACTUALLY THE FLAG IS THE SYMBOL OF SOME THINGS LIKE I DON'T LIKE LIKE JINGOISM AND WAR, AND I DO BELIEVE WHENEVER PEOPLE START FLYING THE FLAG...

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GOING TO GET THEM. THERE HAS TO

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THAT WAY. INSTEAD OF LET'S GET THEM. OR LET'S INVADE IRAQ, WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 ALTHOUGH PEOPLE WERE PERSUADED THAT IT DID. SO, I GOT A...

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BELIEVE YOU. >> Host: VITIATOR HANG THE FLAG? >> Guest: NO, NO I SAID SHE DID HANG THE FLAG OUT FOR BEDROOM WINDOW. HUSSLE I THOUGHT ABOUT A STORY, THERE...

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PROJECT. I THOUGHT, WE ARE GOING TO BE THE LISTEN FLAGS PEDINA HANEEF LEGS WE GOT? ONE. WE GO ONE NYLON FLAG AND THEN WE GOT PEOPLE DREW FLAGS AND THEN...

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COMPLICATED COME IN THE WAY

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BABY AND YOU WERE HAVING THIS WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. I LOVE BEING A

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NOW, YOU COULD NOT TAKE A STROLLER TO THE POST OFFICE. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT WANT YOU TO PICK UP A PACKAGE IF YOU ARE A MOTHER. IT. SO IT IS A PIECE...

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AND. >> Host: NEW JERSEY, GO AHEAD. >> Caller: HELLO, I AM WRITING AN ARTICLE ABOUT THIS FOR THE HUFFINGTON POST BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MS. KATHA...

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HAVE BEEN WHITE AND WHEN I LOOKED INTO THIS, THE SHOW WAS ACTUALLY STARTED BY A WOMAN NAMED MARTHA ROUNDTREE IN 1945. IT WAS A RADIO SHOW AND IN 1947...

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ABOUT THE MACHINE WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD BOOKS. EVERY THE NEWSPAPERS GET SMALLER AND SMALLER, AND SHEDDING EXACTLY THE PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HAVE TO MAKE...

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REALLY GREAT AND WE ARE SAYING THERE IS A LOT OF TALENT. THERE IS A LOT OF TALENT OUT THERE AND PEOPLE WHO WOULD NEVER GET A

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NOT. SHE WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL,

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Caller: BEAUTIFUL IS AND THE WORD. LISTEN, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT THERE ARE FOLKS

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BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE DO SLAVE REPARATIONS MONEY, MILLIONS OF

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IS CERTAINLY PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT >> Caller: MAYBE THE DO, MAYBE -- I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ENCOURAGE SENATOR OBAMA TO LET THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT. WOULD...

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HAVE TO ANSWER AND THEY SHOULD ASK MCCAIN TO. >> Caller: ABSOLUTELY. I THINK, WELL I WILL TELL YOU I THINK IT IS A BIG ISSUE. WE HAVE A HISTORY IN THIS...

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EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS. I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE AND I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO SPEAK ON IT. DO...

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DON'T YOU? REMEMBER WHEN HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT BARACK OBAMA,

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I LOVED IT. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON. I HAVE TWO

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ONE SECOND. OKAY, THE IN DEPTH IS HOW YOU PUBLISHED AND WHAT IS THE KEY GIVEN THE EFFECT OF ALL OF THE GENDER BIAS IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT AFFECTS WOMEN,...

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SIGNIFIES MORE THAN THE END OF WELFARE AS WE KNOW IT FOR GOOD SIGNIFIES THE END OF A CERTAIN KIND OF LIBERALISM. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT BACK THEN?...

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WE NOW KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN STUDY AFTER STUDY THAT

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ONLY SEX ED. THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS

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THAT POWER THE USE THAT POWER AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE ALMOST THE OPPOSITE. THEY GET A LITTLE POWER

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NUMBER OF HEARINGS THEY DO ABOUT IRAQ

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THIS. WHAT ABOUT BUILDING THAT'S TO PUT A WALL BETWEEN AMERICA AND MEXICO? I JUST FEEL THAT THEY HAVEN'T, THEY ARE NOT

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FEAR CAMPAIGN, ONE MORNING ON AND

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OF HIM. NOW HE MAY WELL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT, SO I THINK THAT THERE IS A REAL POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL SEE A WOMAN PRESIDENT AND THAT WOMAN PRESIDENT...

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IT SEEMS OFTEN THAT THERE

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MIGHT BE BATTERED

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YOU SELECTED SOME BOOKS FROM YOUR SHELVES THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU. >>> PHILIP LARKIN, I LOVE HIS POEMS. IT'S INTERESTING THAT I DO, I GUESS YOU COULD...

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LIFE JUST ABOUT EXCEPT FOR JAZZ FROM THE '20s, '30s AND LIQUOR AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT I JUST THINK HE'S A WONDERFUL POET. I THINK HE CAPTURES...

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IT WAS ONE OF HER MOST FAMOUS POEMS WHICH IS ABOUT ALL THE

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DO. AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUR PAST. WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET THE OLD STORIES AND THE OLD HISTORY. AND YET WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP TELLING THE SAME...

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I DID MY TAKE ON ADAM AND EVE, WHICH IS THAT -- WELL, IT'S THE

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OTHER CATS ARE GONE.

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THE BLUES AND THE GREENS OR FOOTBALL TEAMS OR SOMETHING. IT'S ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE. AND THE REASON -- THE REASON WOMEN NEED TO SHOW A LITTLE

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WHAT HER VIEWS ON MANY SUBJECTS ARE. I WOULD THINK THAT A WOMAN WHO IS LIVING IN THE WORLD AS SHE DOES AND IS SOCIALLY CONCERNED AS SHE IS WOULD HAVE...

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WHY IS IT GENDER DISCRIMINATION? >> Guest: THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION. OKAY. THE HISTORY OF THAT IS THAT IT COMES FROM SEEING SEX -- THE...

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TODAY? I THINK THERE'S SOME INTERESTING POETS WHO ARE WRITING IN FORM AND THEY WRITE SONNETS ALL THE TIME AND THERE'S RECENT EN ANTHOLOGIES. IT'S WONDERFUL

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THEY DON'T BELIEVE ZEUS. THEY HAVE A LOT OF LIFE IN

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THOSE STORIES. YOU CAN STILL DO A NEW TURN ON THEM. I'VE WRITTEN NINE SO FAR. AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S ALL THERE WILL HAD BEEN >> Host: WHEN

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QUESTION, I

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COLUMNISTS

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AND NAOMI KLEIN AND THAT

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WRITE COLUMNS FOR THE NATION I'VE ALMOST NEVER MET. >> Host: YOU WROTE A PIECE ABOUT CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS IN THE "VIRGINITY OR DEATH." DO YOU RECALL...

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Guest: THE WHOLE AIM IS TO TALK ABOUT HIM. AND THEN HE'LL HAVE A SEX CHANGE OPERATION SO HE CAN REALLY HAVE A SEX CHANCE THAT WOMEN HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR...

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THAT'S IT. I THINK SOMEONE WHO CALLS THE DIXIE CHICKS FING FAT SLAGS IS IN A VERY POOR POSITION IN GENERAL BECAUSE THE DIXIE CHICKS ARE WONDERFUL....

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TO FING FAT SLAGS IS THAT'S BRITISH SLANG FOR SLUT AND HE USED THE FULL FOUR-LETTER WORD SO I JUST FIND IT HARD TO TAKE SERIOUSLY SOMEBODY WHO WOULD...

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HI. >> Host: YOU'RE ON. >> Caller: HI, KATHA. I'VE BEEN A -- LET ME TURN MY TV OFF. I'VE READ YOU FOR YEARS AND YEARS 'CAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST...

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NATION." I WAS ON

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FIRST TURNED ON AND WATCHED YOU, YOU WEREN'T THE KATHA I KNEW. NOW YOU ARE. YOU MORPHED INTO THE KATHA I MET ON THE NATION CRUISE. >> Host: WHAT YOU MEAN....

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CARLIN, WHY DID YOU LIKE HIM ESPECIALLY? >> Guest:

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SO WITTY AND FUNNY. I JUST

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I

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LAST HBO SPECIAL, AND HE WAS SO

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HE? [LAUGHTER] >> Host: IT ONLY AFFECTS US ON THE RADIO SIDE AND NOT ON THE CABLE SIDE? >> Guest: I LOVED HOW

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I REALLY LIKE A LOT. LEWIS BLACK

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TO SPEAK THEIR MIND. PEOPLE WERE RUNNING SCARED FROM BOTH THE REPUBLICANS. THE MEDIA WAS BEING INCREDIBLY

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THINGS "THE DAILY SHOW" DOES AS WELL IS MAKE

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OF DOUBLE STANDARDS FOR MEN --

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A STUDY CAME

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YOU WRITE ABOUT A SITUATION

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AGES. MY MOTHER WOULD PASS MY FATHER

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PAY THE

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WAS RESPONSIBLE

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A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL BOOK CRITIC CIRCLE BY THE NAME

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WHAT WHAT'S YOUR TAKE

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WITH HER, I WOULD POINT YOU IN HER DIRECTION. SHE'S NOT ONLY AN OLD FRIEND I'VE LOST TRACK OF FOR A COUPLE DECADES. SHE WAS MY COLLEGE ROOMMATE AND I...

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YEAH, WE'RE MARRIED. HOW GREAT IS IT TO BE MARRIED TO A MAN

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SOME WONDERFUL ART, YOU KNOW SO I WENT.

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ASK YOU ABOUT A COMMENT

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WAS

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FROM A

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YOU. I'M JUST HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE. AND HE DIDN'T MEAN THE POOR WILL BE HERE THROUGHOUT ETERNITY. HE MEANS THE POOR WILL BE HERE WITH YOU, THE PEOPLE...

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LIKE WE -- IT'S LIKE WHAT WE THINK OF LATIN AMERICA TO BE. BUT IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE ALL RICHER SO WE DON'T NOTICE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF ...

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THE WRONG MODEL. I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU CAN SAY, YES. IF THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T HAVE THAT IDEA, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE. I THINK THE IRAQ WAR...

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HOW YOU FEEL

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THAT IT EVER AFFECTS YOU WHEN YOU'RE WRITING YOUR COLUMN OR YOU, YOU KNOW, TAKE STANDS ON VARIOUS ISSUES. ARE YOU EVER INTIMIDATED BY THAT NOTION OR...

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WELL, THIS IS BEING RECORDED SOMEWHERE. I MAY

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Guest: I WOULD BE ASTONISHED IF ANYONE AT THE "NATION" MAGAZINE SHADED WHAT THEY WROTE UNDER CONCERNS LIKE THAT. IT WOULD NEVER OCCUR TO ME TO DO...

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MUCH FOLLY. MY WONDERFUL EDITOR AT "THE NATION" HAS SAVED ME FROM MANY

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SO MANY BLOGS IT'S HARD TO GENERALIZE. I'M REALLY FOR HIM. TALKING POINTS MEMO HAS BROKEN STORIES. AND SO HAVE SOME OTHER BLOGS AND I THINK IT'S...

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THOSE THINGS I'M IN FAVOR I'M AGAINST. SOMETIMES I DO THIS. I'LL WRITE ABOUT SOMETHING AND I'LL PUT OUT ON A LISTSERV THAT I'M ON AND START A DISCUSSION...

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PRINT, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE WRITTEN. SO SOMEBODY CAN GO

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SAY, WELL, 10 YEARS AGO KATHA POLLITT SAID X. AND IT MIGHT BE -- I'VE GOTTEN

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PERFORM A

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LIKE EVERY -- EVERY TIME A NEW DECISION IS MADE BY

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MEN. AND THEN THE REPUBLICANS WOULD LOSE EVERYWHERE. I DON'T KNOW. WHERE'S THE SLEEPING GIANT? WAKE UP. GENERALLY, AS THINGS MOVE MORE TO THE RIGHT,...

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AND WE COULD OVERCOME IT. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY

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NEGATING THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HUMAN BEINGS, THE FOOLISH NOTION THAT YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY REGULATE OUTCOME REGARDLESS OF INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES. IT'S...

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SO THERE IT IS. >> Host: ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. >> Caller: YEAH, I

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THIS RIGHT WINGED CONSPIRACY TO

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THERE FEMINISTS,

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SELF-DESCRIBED FEMINISTS WHO ARE SO MAD THAT HILLARY CLINTON DIDN'T GET THE NOMINATION THAT THEY WILL VOTE FOR McCAIN. I'M SURE THERE ARE. IT'S A BIG...

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ARE LIKE COMPLETELY UP IN ARMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WELL, IT'S OKAY FOR US TO SLAP YOUR FACE BUT IT'S NOT OKAY FOR YOU TO SLAP OUR FACE. >> Host: OKAY, CALLER,...

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BE DOING THAT WELL. THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE DOING THAT WELL. I THINK THEY TRIED TO HAVE THIS HARSH LOUD TALK SHOW FORMAT AND THEN SOME PEOPLE SAID, YOU...

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OF MARGINALIZATIONED CONSTANTLY GINNED UP SUCH AS ON TALK RADIO AND YOU'RE THE VICTIM HERE. AIR AMERICA IS PLUGGING ALONG. >> Host: DO YOU THINK THE...

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WANT TO MAKE AT THE END OF THE DAY? >> Guest: WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I HOPE I MAKE PEOPLE THINK. I HOPE I RE-ENFORCE -- MAKE

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SENSE OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND WOMENS ENTITLE TO FULL HUMANITY AND ALL THAT STUFF. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW WHO DON'T LIVE IN, YOU...

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POPULAR MEDIA COMMENTATOR. HE'LL TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. >>