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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Good afternoon. I have one statement and then I'll introduce our guest briefer.

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

The President appreciates the votes of senators on the Judiciary Committee to forward the nomination of Judge Michael Mukasey to the full Senate. Judge...

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Today I have a special guest -- a guest briefer, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Michael Leavitt. As you just saw, the President and Secretary...

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Mr. Secretary.

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Thank you, Dana. I would like to just talk some about the nature of this issue and where we -- how we have arrived at this juncture and where we go...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

First, it's the nature of issues like import safety to ripen and mature over time. There's a symbolic flashpoint and then there's a policy response...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

What I think one draws from that is that what we are seeing is an issue resulting from a fundamental change that's happened in the world over a period...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Wisely, I believe the President acted and put forward this working group. There were 12 Cabinet Secretaries and others who were put to this task. I...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

We fanned out across the country. I, personally, went to ports and border crossings and freight hubs and post offices and I saw drugs and vegetables...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

There are 300 ports of entry in this country, receiving goods from 825,000 importers. The imports this year will be over $2 trillion. To give you a...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Now, we have broken our work into three parts. Sixty days ago we brought back to the President a strategic framework. Then today what we delivered to...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

When we put the strategic framework forward, we suggested a basic change; fundamental change in policy needs to occur. And the change is going from...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Now, I'll illustrate that simply by telling you about a experience at a lettuce manufacturing facility I visited. The processing plant manager said,...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

The same thing can be said of any kind of manufacturing good. And our strategy, the basic strategic change here is going from just intervening at the...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Now, you can read the report; I won't go into a lot of details. There are 50 specific suggestions and recommendations in 14 categories. So you'll find...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

I just want to emphasize we are saying to the world, if you want to have access to American consumers, you need to meet the expectations of safety and...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

An FDA inspector said to me, our job is to find the needle in the haystack, and our first job is to shrink the haystack. If we can minimize the number...

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How will this -- how will these recommendations affect imports from China and U.S. trade with China?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

First, could I emphasize that this is not about China; it is not about trade. This is about assuring that we have safe products.

Now, China is...

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Does that not perhaps run counter to the markets -- sorry, the markets, they're not bearing some of the blame of the situation we're in now, and shortcuts...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

On a subject of this type, there are obviously different philosophies. You will find, I believe, philosophies that would suggest government needs to...

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Why did you say China has no part in (inaudible) -- that moved you people to action? And also why do you tie in frozen foods with maturity?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

First, on China. China is obviously a very important part of any import discussion, because they are such a large factor. I meant to imply that China...

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No, but it was the emphasis.

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, certainly the incidents that occurred with the animal feed and the toothpaste and other -- lead paint -- have clearly been high profile. But we...

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In terms of cargo inspection, obviously products are very important. But did you also take a look at security as you might inspect cargo?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

You know, this is a very interesting part of this problem; we spent a lot of time on this. What we've come to understand is at our borders, the border...

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Just to clarify, the mandatory recall authority for the FDA, that's only limited to food products; is that correct?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Yes. Food -- the Consumer Product Safety Council already has mandatory recall authority. This is for food. We have not had that in the past. And may...

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Secretary Leavitt, one other question, sir. The certification list, how will the consumers access that? And what will this certification assure them?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, the report calls for us to make the list available to them -- it doesn't go into the details yet of exactly how that will occur. The strategic...

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Q

Safe.

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Thank you. That it's safe -- that it's not unsafe.

I went to a fruit stand -- literally, a wholesale fruit provider, two people selling apples...

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Mr. Secretary, one of the recommendations the President mentioned was increasing penalties for companies that do not comply with the right safety standards....

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

You know, I can't reconcile that. I don't know the answer to what she was saying. What I can tell you is that currently the cap on penalties is $1.8...

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I want to ask you about food safety in particular. Your predecessor, Tommy Thompson, used to worry openly about the safety of the food supply, and especially...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

I can with complete confidence say that we have among the safest food supplies on the planet. It is not perfect. We can get better. But we're very fortunate...

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And so what is your aim with this food safety initiative, then? How much better do we need to be?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, we need -- first of all, part of the problem is we're seeing a shift in where our food is grown, and we need to -- we have a domestic system that...

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Mr. Secretary, you have met with some Indian health officials in Washington. What message do you have for them, as far as foods and drugs and medicine...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Our message to everyone who desires to produce food for American consumers, or products of any sort, if you want access to our markets, you need to...

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Mr. Secretary, a lot of these measures take more money, they take some congressional action. What can you tell the public about what you are doing right...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, I can give you the example of -- I mentioned earlier, we are working right now in the final phases of negotiating agreements with China on food...

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But nothing in the plan announced today can go into effect immediately, isn't that true?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, many parts of it can. And those are actually delineated in the report, in some cases. And if you look through that, you'll see those points.

Yes,...

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Mr. Secretary, can you -- you're saying that the Consumer Product Safety Commission already has the kind of mandatory recall authority over its jurisdiction...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Yes, they do.

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So then why has it taken so long for the government to establish that kind of authority for the FDA over food when you know dangerous materials might...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, I'm not able to speak to the history of it. I will tell you that I was surprised when I found out that the statutory authority needed to be improved,...

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You said earlier that you're going to come back in a few months with some plan to knit all these proposals together. Can you elaborate on that? What...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, you've got 12 different federal departments. You have vast portions of the American economy. You have international interests, all of which operate...

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Mr. Secretary, how is your cooperation with the European Union on this crucial matter?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

I spoke with the Commissioner of the European Union responsible for this over the last week a couple of times. And this is a matter of great concern...

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You said there will be some cost involved. How much would that be? And is OMB onboard?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

We all acknowledge that this cannot be done simply without resources.

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How much --

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

We haven't gotten to the point of putting a price tag, but we have said that in our '09 budgets and subsequent budgets that we'll need to include those...

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In terms of the toy safety, you talked about stepping up inspections in the life cycle of a product overseas. But how do you reassure parents now, with...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

I am a parent, I am a grandparent with three little toddlers and I -- this has occurred to me. And here's my advice: Buy from people you trust. And...

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Mr. Secretary, how can you not put a price tag on this if it's a top priority?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, because we know that with 12 different departments in essence what you'd be replicating to come up with that would be the entire budget process....

00:24:122 sec.
Q

So you're talking about the President's budget for next year?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

And the year after that and the year after that.

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Q

But in the meantime, between now and then, how do you deal with the problem?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Well, there are parts of this that will not require budget. There are parts of it that we can do with rule and regulation. There are parts of it that...

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Mr. Secretary, can you say foods coming from India are safe and sound?

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

That is not a question I'm able to respond to. I will tell you that Americans expect that food that comes from any source is done in accordance to American...

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You mentioned that there have been increasing presence of U.S. inspectors overseas. Do you envision that as moving U.S. inspectors from the U.S. border?...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

Oh, I expect that -- as I said, all of this is going to require some resources. In some cases it will be new, in other cases it will be a reallocation...

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Sir, do you envision as you move U.S. inspectors overseas, do you envision any kind of reciprocity where, say, Chinese inspectors would come to the...

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Leavitt, Michael O. - Secretary, Utah

The time will come when we'll be more detailed about the agreement that we're working on. We're still in the process of negotiation, so I'm sure you...

00:27:175 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I will answer any questions outside of that. Bret.

00:27:225 sec.
Q

Dana, the headcount is there is for the veto override this afternoon --

00:27:272 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

On the water bill?

00:27:299 sec.
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Yes, water resources bill. What is it -- what's the reaction to the first veto override on this President?

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

The President vetoed this bill because he felt it was fiscally irresponsible. The House passed a bill that was $14 billion; the Senate passed a bill...

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Some Democrats are painting this as the first crack in the dam of overrides that they believe that they can muster.

00:28:3837 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Well, we'll see about that. One thing that the President would like to do is make sure that he's on the right of the federal taxpayers, and that's what...

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Last thing. Democrats are saying that this is newfound fiscal responsibility, and that's the continued phrase that you hear.

00:29:2332 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Well, that's rich coming from the Democrats. I will tell you that this President, who held the line with budgets in the first administration -- and...

00:29:553 sec.
Q

Why is the President dodging a personal phone call to Musharraf?

00:29:584 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

The President has had his Secretary of State --

00:30:023 sec.
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I'm asking you directly why doesn't he call him?

00:30:055 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

The President feels very strongly that President Musharraf knows exactly how he feels about the situation.

00:30:101 sec.
Q

That isn't the point.

00:30:111 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

It is the point.

00:30:123 sec.
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Dana, does the White House believe that Musharraf is now a dictator?

00:30:157 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Look, I think that that is -- it's premature to say that. This is a President --

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Well, why is premature when the First Lady --

Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

-- who has worked closely with an ally in the war on terror, President Musharraf. We're doing two things with them: on the one hand, working cooperatively...

00:30:533 sec.
Q

But wait a minute, why are you calling it a mistake? You seem to be giving Musharraf the benefit of the doubt.

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

-- we are calling for an immediate return to civilian rule, and we are in communication with them because we have a lot of cooperative interests. We...

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Why did -- the First Lady was very clear in her op-ed in The Wall Street Journal about Burma, Myanmar, saying it's a military dictatorship; what they're...

00:31:2434 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

And what you have heard -- what you have heard from the President and this administration is that we were made aware that this state of emergency could...

00:31:585 sec.
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But why is it evolving? It's been days that he basically said, no more constitution, and we're going to round up political --

00:32:0325 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

We have condemned the action. We have condemned the action. We cannot support any means that are happening outside of the constitution. And that's why...

00:32:2813 sec.
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But why should Musharraf believe that you guys are really serious about what you're saying from this podium when the President doesn't actually pick...

00:32:4119 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Well, we disagree. The President has made his points very clear with Musharraf; he's had many meetings with President Musharraf. And Secretary Rice...

00:33:004 sec.
Q

It still does not carry the same weight as the President having direct contact with Musharraf -- (inaudible).

00:33:044 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Well, I'll let you -- I'll let that be your opinion. I'll let that be your opinion.

00:33:088 sec.
Q

But what is the tactic? I mean, what is the strategic reason for President Bush not to actually pick up the phone and talk to him?

00:33:169 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I feel confident that the President is being well served and advised by his senior national security team. The decision has been made to have Secretary...

00:33:255 sec.
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Why shouldn't we see this as double standard? I mean, it's not the same standard as applied to Burma.

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I can understand why that question would be asked, but I think everyone has to remember that we are in the early days of a crisis, looking at a country...

00:33:563 sec.
Q

Well, they certainly don't have freedom of the press or assembly at the moment.

00:33:593 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

And we have called for a return to it.

Ben.

00:34:021 sec.
Q

Dana, where does the review on aid stand?

00:34:033 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

It's still ongoing. It's early to say.

00:34:062 sec.
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I mean, is there a sense of urgency to it? Do you expect any --

00:34:0825 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I can assure that people have been working on this ever since we had heard that the state of emergency may have been what he was going to decide to...

00:34:3313 sec.
Q

And more broadly, you've outlined, again, the White House strategy of urging Pakistan to return down a democratic path, reviewing aid. But you also...

00:34:4622 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I don't know if I said that. I said that we have to be mindful to make sure that we do not undermine any of our counterterrorism efforts. We have --...

00:35:087 sec.
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What I'm wondering is, are you concerned at all of a world view that perhaps the White House response to this is too passive?

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

We -- I believe our -- look, our allies understand that we have -- that we have a problem here. It is difficult. The world is not tidy. It is certainly...

00:35:392 sec.
Q

Dana, may I quick follow, please?

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I'm just going to go -- since you had a couple, I'm going to go back to others who haven't.

John.

00:35:4417 sec.
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Doesn't Musharraf's actions, in rounding up lawyers, judges, activists, people who have opposed him politically, doesn't that betray his stated reason...

00:36:0122 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Clearly we are very concerned that people who wanted to express themselves freely would have been put in prison. We would like for them to be released...

00:36:239 sec.
Q

Has Secretary Rice or anybody else in the government engaged the Pakistani government on this level, saying, why are you arresting people, lawyers --

00:36:325 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Yes, certainly. Ambassador Patterson and Secretary Rice have been very involved in it. And Steve Hadley has talked to his counterpart as well.

00:36:377 sec.
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And have you had any feedback from the Pakistan government that talked about the Attorney General, about elections? Have they talked at all about --

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I would say that we do not have official word, and we certainly don't have a date yet. So hesitant to say that for sure that those are going to take...

00:36:523 sec.
Q

But, I mean, have they talked about releasing any of those folks that have been arrested?

00:36:551 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I have not heard that.

Bret.

00:36:5615 sec.
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Can you concede that the U.S. doesn't have the leverage that it once did over Pakistan? And perhaps the reason the President isn't picking up the phone...

00:37:1123 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

No, the President feels strongly that he and Musharraf have had a good relationship in the past. They have worked well together to help prevent terrorists,...

00:37:343 sec.
Q

But as far as our leverage over what's happening in Pakistan.

00:37:3734 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I think that we are quite comfortable with where our leverage is. This is a situation where, look, the United States, we can be a powerful country;...

00:38:119 sec.
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This might be a little bit arcane, but has the President met with any Pakistani opposition figures in the last six-plus years, that you know of?

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Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Olivier, I don't know.

00:38:212 sec.
Q

Yes, sorry. I thought it was --

00:38:237 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

When you start off a question with "it's going to be arcane," it can only be from Olivier. (Laughter.)

Les.

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Thank you, Dana; two questions. Oklahoma's House Bill 1804, just passed and signed by the Democrat governor, has been described as "the toughest state-level...

00:38:5318 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

What we would like to see is a comprehensive national immigration reform bill. We think it is difficult for all 50 states and localities and jurisdictions...

00:39:1130 sec.
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Agence France Presse reports thousands of illegal aliens coming into the U.S. every year could include terrorist spies and those with communicable diseases,...

00:39:411 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Wow, what is the question?

00:39:423 sec.
Q

-- for doing what they believed was defending the nation's borders?

00:39:4519 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

The President has made a pledge and he is making good on it to double the number of Border Patrol agents that are working for the government. We are...

00:40:0412 sec.
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Dana, when and how did the White House find out about the head of Immigration and Custom Enforcement's involvement with this incident involving an offensive...

00:40:1635 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I'm not exactly sure how different individuals were informed. I was informed this morning by Fran Townsend, who's the -- actually, I'm sorry, I heard...

00:40:517 sec.
Q

Do you think there should be disciplinary action? I mean, wouldn't you think that a person at this level of government would know better than to pose...

00:40:588 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Since Secretary Chertoff, the head of the department, has asked for a review, I'm going to let that review take place and let him make any personnel...

00:41:0617 sec.
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Dana, thank you. There have been some positive comments in the past couple days from Prime Minister Olmert and Palestinian President Abbas about the...

00:41:2319 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I don't have a date to announce for you yet. Secretary Rice was in the region over the weekend. She's just getting back now. We are hopeful that we...

00:41:427 sec.
Q

Does the White House get the sense that things are on a better track than they were maybe a week or 10 days ago, given Secretary Rice's trip?

00:41:4918 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Well, I think that she even reported that she thinks that the two sides are coming together, that they have a common goal of trying to get to a vision...

00:42:078 sec.
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One question on Cyprus. Do you know, finally, if President Bush and the Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed yesterday the Cyprus issue...

00:42:156 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

I don't. They had a little bit of a private discussion as well, and so I wasn't in there, and I'm not positive. We can ask Stephen Hadley.

00:42:218 sec.
Q

Thanks Dana.

00:42:2921 sec.
Perino, Dana - Press Secretary

Okay, thanks.

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