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FIRST OF ALL,
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IS THAT AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION AND WHAT DO YOU THINK
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ABOUT IT? >> Guest: SOMETIMES IN WASHINGTON ISSUES ARE REALLY SURROGATE FOR OTHER ISSUES. THIS ISN'T ABOUT NEGOTIATING DRUG PRICES BECAUSE THEY'RE ...
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GOVERNMENTS STEPPING IN AND MAKING THOSE DECISIONS FOR THEM. >> Host: DO SENIORS NEED BETTER DEALS RIGHT NOW ON DRUG PRICES? >> Guest: THE GOOD NEWS...
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YEAR, RATHER, SENIORS RECEIVE IT FOR $22 A
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MONTH. WE HAVE 92% OF THOSE ELIGIBLE ENROLLED IN A PLAN. NOT ONLY ARE THEY ENROLLED RBLINGTS THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE PLAN. EIGHT OUT OF TEN SAY THEY'RE...
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PEOPLE SURVEYED LIKE THE PLAN THEY HAVE AND HAPPY WITH THE PROGRAM. THE BEST NEWS IN ALL THAT IS IF YOU'RE WUNL OF THE -- THOSE THAT AREN'T HAPPY,...
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WAS AN ONE SIZE FITS ALL BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRAM LIKE ACCUSTOMED TO OFTEN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. YOU CAN CHOOSE A PLAN THAT FITS...
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202-628-0205. MIKE LEAVITT WAS SWORN IN AS HHS SECRETARY IN JANUARY OF 2005. FORMERLY THE EPA ADMINISTRATOR. FORMERLY THE GOVERNOR OF UTAH. AS WE KNOW....
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| 00:03:11 |
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IT DIFFERENTLY. WE SAID RATHER THAN JUST AN ONE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM, LET'S GIVE PEOPLE A CHOICE. AND THEY HAVE EMBRACED IT. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CYNICISM...
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| 00:03:52 |
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THE REALITY IS DRUG PRICES ARE NEGOTIATED. THEY'RE NEGOTIATED AGGRESSIVELY. THERE ARE LARGE PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFIT MANAGERS, THREE OF THEM IN THE COUNTRY,...
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DO THE NEGOTIATING AND THAT'S WHY THE COST HAS COME DOWN SO WE FIND OURSELF IN A PLACE NOW WHERE WHEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT -- WHAT'S...
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| 00:05:25 |
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TAKE MY -- YOU IF YOU LOWER THE PRICE, WE TAKE THE PILL OFF THE PLAN. WELL, IF THE GOVERNMENT CAN NEGOTIATE BUT THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH THE FORM LAIR, THEY...
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| 00:05:38 |
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CBO, THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE, WHEN THE REPUBLICANS HAD CONTROL OF CONGRESS SAID NO SAVINGS IF THE GOVERNMENT TO NEGOTIATE. WHEN THE CONTROL...
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| 00:06:46 |
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IT WAS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. I WAS ONLY
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ON A COMPANY PLAN MUCH BETTER THAN THIS. WHEN THIS PLAN CAME OUT, THEY DUMPED US ON THIS PLAN AND I COULDN'T AFFORD IT SO I HAD TO GO TO THE VETERANS'...
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THE DRUGS THEY NEED AT A COST THEY'RE HAPPY WITH AND GLAD THAT YOU HAD CHOICES. >> Host: MAXTON, NORTH CAROLINA, FOR MIKE LEAVITT, HI. >> Caller: YES,...
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MIDNIGHT THAT LASTED
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THREE HOURS. AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT PUSHED THE VOTE THROUGH GOT A JOB WITH THE DRUG COMPANIES AND THE GUY ON TV SAID THAT HE GOT A JOB MAKING $2 MILLION...
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MOST NEW GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. THERE WAS SOME -- THERE WERE SOME ROUGH DAYS IN THE FIRST TWO OR THREE WEEKS OF ROLLING THIS OUT. NOW INTO IT A YEAR,...
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| 00:09:50 |
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IS ABSOLUTELY QUESTION BUT THE QUESTION LEFT OUT IS THE GOVERNMENT THE BEST ONE TO NEGOTIATE? AND THE REALITY IS, THE GOVERNMENT AS BIG AS IT IS IS...
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NEGOTIATOR IN THE GAME AND AS A RESULT, WE WOULDN'T GET THE BEST DEAL AND WE ARE GETTING THE BEST DEAL NOW. IN FACT, AS I INDICATED, THE AVERAGE PRICE...
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COMPANIES RATHER THE PLANS HAVE TO GO TO THE DRUG COMPANIES AND SAY, LOOK IF YOU WANT TO BE ON MY PLAN, YOU HAVE TO
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GIVE ME THE LOWEST POSSIBLE PRICE. WELL, EVERY PLAN HAS SOME BUYING POWER AND CHOSEN NOT TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN AND LUMPED THEIR PURCHASES INTO WHAT'S...
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AND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE COMPETITION IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. ALONG WITH
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WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST OPEN ENROLLMENT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAD AGENTS FROM VARIOUS COMPANIES SAT DOWN WITH PEOPLE, THEY DIDN'T GO OVER THE FORM...
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GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: OKAY. >> Guest: NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. >> Caller: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY ON C-SPAN THIS MORNING FOR THIS DEBATE WITH...
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GOING SIMPLY FOR THE FACT THAT I AM A PARTICIPANT
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IN A
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DRUG
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PROGRAM CALLED COMMUNITY CARE
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RX.
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AND THE LADY THAT WAS
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ON BEFORE ME, SHE IS RIGHT. THERE ARE SOME DRUGS THAT THESE POLICIES DO NOT OFFER BUT THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATE, GENERIC DRUG TO COVER THE NAME BRAND DRUG....
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THEIR
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PEOPLE, SENIOR CENTERS,
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SHOPPING MALLS HAD GATHERINGS WHERE VOLUNTEERS CAME. HOSPITALS, CLINICS, EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER AND I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER COUNTRY WHERE THIS COULD...
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THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM NOW. THEY UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS WHEN IT COMES TIME TO EVALUATE THEIR PLANS, THEY'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED CONSUMERS SO IT...
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PHARMACIES, THE DOCTORS, THE PATIENTS. WE'RE ALL GETTING BETTER AT OPERATING IN THIS NEW ENVIRONMENT AND THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS PEOPLE ARE PLEASED WITH...
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BENEFITS THROUGH HIS CORPORATION. THAT HAPPENED
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TO MY
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DAD, ALSO. THAT WAS
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| 00:18:15 |
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SOMETHING THAT WAS UNFORESEEN BUT HE FORTUNATELY DID HAVE THE VA, ALSO. THERE IS A PARALLEL HERE FOR ALL AMERICANS. AND I MEAN ALL. THE PARALLEL IS...
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| 00:19:27 |
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HUNDREDS OF THEM DOING IT. AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT IT'S SO GOOD THAT WE HAVE PART D BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE SAID TO THOSE WHO HAVE CORPORATE PLANS,...
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| 00:20:30 |
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ONCE TRUMPETED AS A SURE FIRE MONEY SAVER. THEY THINK IT'S A SURE FIRE MONEY SAVER. >> Guest: WELL, THE EARLY RHETORIC TURNED OUT TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE...
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| 00:20:56 |
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LEADERSHIP. AND INDEPENDENT ACTUARIES. WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY NEGOTIATION TAKING PLACE. HAVING THE GOVERNMENT NEGOTIATE IS A GOOD SOUND BITE...
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| 00:21:48 |
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HAVE A QUESTION. I WANT TO ASK. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO THINK THAT THE PART D HELPED THOSE THAT DID NOT HAVE ANY INSURANCE. BUT THE POLICY...
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PLANS. AND I HAVE ONE FRIEND WHO IS NOW PAYING $500 A MONTH MORE FOR DRUGS THAN PAYING BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM THERE ARE AROUND. AND...
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| 00:22:58 |
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ABOUT THE FRIEND YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THAT IS PAYING $500 A MONTH MORE. THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THE CASE. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO TALK WITH HER AND...
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WOULD BE THAT IF PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM AND THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE HELP, 1-800-MEDICARE NUMBER, PEOPLE ARE TRAINED TO BE HELPFUL TO THEM AND IF THEY LIKE...
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HAVE SEEN TO PUT ALL OF YOUR DRUGS IN AND HELP YOU CHOOSE A PLAN AND HELP YOU COMPARE THE COST, IT WILL HELP YOU KEEP TRACK OF WHAT YOU ARE USING AND...
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DISABLED. I FIND THAT THERE IS ONE CLASS OF DRUGS THAT IS
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NOT ON ANY FORM LAIR THAT ANY OF THE COMPANIES CARRY AND IT'S TOTALLY UNAVAILABLE. I HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET FOR THAT. ANOTHER DRUG THAT I'M ON...
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IF WE CAN, WE WILL. WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE HAPPY WITH THIS. THERE'S A WAY FOR EVERYONE TO GET WHAT THEY NEED. IF YOU WILL HOLD THE LINE, I'M TOLD WE...
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ABLE TO GET YOUR NUMBER AND HAVE SOMEONE
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TO CALL YOU TO HELP YOU THROUGH IT TO THE EXTENT THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> Host: THEY TELL ME THEY'LL DO THAT. I WANTED TO IN THE MEANTIME AARP SAYS IT WILL...
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MEDICARE RECIPIENTS IN SEVERAL OTHER PRODUCTS TO PEOPLE 50 TO 64. THE PRODUCTS FOR PEOPLE UNDER 65 INCLUDE A MANAGED CARE PLAN. WHEN THE NEW COVERAGE...
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| 00:28:25 |
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AN ORGANIZER. WHEN GOVERNMENT IS THE PROPRIETOR, GOVERNMENT BECOMES THE PRICE SETTER. IT BECOMES THE RISK TAKER. IT BECOMES THE -- WE BECOME THE PRESCRIBER...
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| 00:29:18 |
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ABLE TO GET INSURANCE IN A SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S COMPETITION BASED ON VALUE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE COST OF WHAT THEY'RE BUYING AND THE QUALITY TO HAVE
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AN INDEPENDENT -- THEY CAN HAVE AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF THE QUALITY OF IT. WE TALK ABOUT HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS. THERE REALLY ISN'T A HEALTHCARE SYSTEM....
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| 00:30:26 |
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WORKING. SAVING PEOPLE MONEY. PEOPLE LIKE IT. IT'S WORKING. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THEY CAME UP WITH A GOOD SOUND BITE EARLY ON THAT THE GOVERNMENT...
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| 00:30:39 |
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AND CONSUMERS MAKE CHOICES ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE. I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY CLEARLY SAYING THE SAME THING. AND IT'S ALSO CLEAR TO ME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE...
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| 00:31:24 |
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NO UNIFORM OR ONE STOP SHOPPING FOR
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Caller, -
ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS IN THE UNITED STATES FOR US TO FIND OUT AS A PHYSICIAN RIGHT THERE WITH THE PATIENT IN THE ROOM WITH THEIR PLAN OF EXACTLY WHAT...
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A GOOD IDEA. I THINK IT MAY EXIST ALREADY AND I'LL TAKE IT BACK AND YOUR CALL WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. THANK YOU. >> Host: CALLER FROM ARKANSAS, THANK...
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WHATSOEVER. AND AS FAR AS PART D
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Caller, -
GOES, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD IT. AFTER PAYING OUT NEARLY $200 A MONTH FOR MEDICARE PART B. WE CANNOT AFFORD ANY PLANS AND BESIDES...
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Guest, -
YOUR AREA AS IS WELL ALL OTHER AREAS A PRODUCT
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Caller, -
CALLED MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A PRIVATE VERSION OF THE REGULAR MEDICARE. BUT
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BECAUSE THEY PUT IT ALL INTO ONE PACKAGE, THEY'RE ABLE TO OFFER EXTRA BENEFITS. AND MANY CASES THEY'RE ABLE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG COVERAGE...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.