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1993, THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR LITERATURE. THROUGH ALL OF THIS, MS. MORRISON HAS CONTINUED TO TEACH NEW GENERATIONS OF WRITERS IN PRINCETON. FOR THE NEXT...
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REDUCED TO
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REGIONAL OR MERELY, OR PEOPLE COMPLIMENT ETHNIC
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| 00:01:12 |
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WRITERS BY SAYING OR IMPLYING THAT THEY ARE AS GOOD AS MAINSTREAM WRITERS, WHEREAS I UNDERSTOOD THE COMPLIMENT, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME, AT...
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EXPLAIN THEM TO
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OTHERS, AND UNIVERSITY TEACHING
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WAS THE THING I LOVED THE MOST, AND I STILL TOO AFTER
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| 00:02:03 |
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ALL THESE YEARS AND AFTER ALL THESE OTHER KINDS OF JOBS I'VE HAD. I'VE ALWAYS TAUGHT SINCE I WAS 26 YEARS OLD. >> WHO FIRST INSTILLED NEW THE LOVE OF...
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FIRST GRADE, AND I AM ASSUMING THAT CAME FROM MY SISTER, WHO WAS A YEAR AND A HALF
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OLDER. BUT I SORT OF ALWAYS KNEW HOW TO DO THAT ACTIVITY, AND I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY BEING THE ONLY STUDENT IN THE FIRST GRADE CLASS THAT COULD READ....
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| 00:03:34 |
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PROCESS THAT WE HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHAT THOUGHTS YOU HAVE ON YOUR MIND. SO AS WE CONVERSE HERE, THE WAY TO PHONE IN AND THE WAY TO E-MAIL WILL...
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| 00:04:15 |
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MILLS, AND IT WAS HOME TO IMMIGRANTS, EASTERN EUROPEANS, MEXICANS, BLACK PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH. I AM BORN IN THE 1930'S, SO I REMEMBER IT AS A DEPRESSION...
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| 00:05:48 |
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ME AT LEAST THAT
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| 00:05:50 |
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ALMOST THE ENTIRE STORY OF BLACK EXPERIENCE IN AMERICA IS CONTAINED IN THREE GENERATIONS IN YOUR FAMILY, GRANDFATHER SLAVE TO SHARE CROPPER, FATHER...
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| 00:06:04 |
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OH, THAT SOUNDS VERY -- THAT SOUNDS SORT OF FORMULAIC IN A WAY, BUT I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT. FOR ME, IT JUST SEEMS ENORMOUSLY A LONG, LONG TIME FROM...
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| 00:06:28 |
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WAS BORN IN 1860, RIGHT? AND HE WAS CRYING, HE WAS FRIGHTENED, BECAUSE HE KEPT HEARING THE ADULTS SAY, "IT'S COMING, IT'S COMING, EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION...
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| 00:08:22 |
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MY MOTHER GOT A JOB, SHE WAS SO
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HAPPY THAT I WAS HERE,
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| 00:08:27 |
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I GUESS, IN COLLEGE, SO SHE TOOK A JOB AT NIGHT AS A WOMAN IN
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| 00:08:33 |
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A LADIES' ROOM, COLLECT SOME TIPS, AND SHE MADE $15 A WEEK, $5 A NIGHT. AND SHE SENT IT TO ME. >> SHE DID THAT IN OHIO? >> MM-HMM. >> HOW DID CHLOE...
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| 00:09:08 |
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| 00:09:09 |
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NAME. CHILDREN COULDN'T PRONOUNCE IT, SOME ADULTS
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| 00:09:13 |
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REFUSED TO PRONOUNCE IT, AND THEY CALLED
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| 00:09:18 |
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ME "CH-LOW" OR "CLOE" OR OTHER THINGS THAT WERE NOT CHLOE. IN MY FAMILY, BECAUSE MY SISTER AND I WERE SO CLOSE IN AGE, WE WERE ALWAYS TOGETHER, THEY...
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| 00:10:24 |
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WERE ARTISTS, AND THEY HAD A GROUP OF WRITERS THAT THEY
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| 00:10:30 |
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FORMED, AND I WAS INVITED TO ATTEND. I BROUGHT WITH ME SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME FRAIL LITTLE THINGS THAT I HAD WORKED ON AS A VERY YOUNG PERSON. AND ONE OF...
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| 00:11:23 |
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MY EARRINGS WHILE I WAS
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WRITING, AND I REMEMBER
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| 00:11:26 |
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HIM SPITTING UP ON THE MANUSCRIPTS, SOME ORANGE JUICE, AND I ALWAYS TELL THE STORY, IT MUST BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WIPE IT UP RIGHT AWAY. I...
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| 00:11:36 |
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IT AND THEN WIPED IT UP AND STOPPED. AND THEN WENT TO THE MEETING, HAD A GOOD TIME, HEARD SOME SERIOUS CRITICISM OF IT, SOME DELIGHT, AND THAT WAS IT....
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| 00:12:29 |
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TRY. THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. AND THEN SUDDENLY I'M SITTING AT MY
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| 00:12:35 |
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DESK IN RANDOM HOUSE, AND I GOT A PHONE CALL
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| 00:12:39 |
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THAT SAID, "THEY
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| 00:12:43 |
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SAID YES." I REMEMBER THAT. >> FROM SIMPLY A POINT OF VIEW OF YOUR ARTISTRY, IF ONE WERE TO READ THIS BOOK AND YOUR LATEST, MOST RECENT NOVEL, "PARADISE,"...
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| 00:13:08 |
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PERSON WHO WROTE "THE BLUEST EYE," THAT VOICE, THAT QUALITY EXISTS IN PARADISE ALSO. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND ODD TO HAVE A STYLE IMMEDIATELY,...
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| 00:13:26 |
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HOW TO WRITE BETTER, HOW TO SEDUCE A READER FASTER, HOW TO CHALLENGE A READER, HOW TO OPEN UP THE WORLD, HOW TO MANIPULATE. BUT WHAT I'M PLEASED...
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| 00:14:17 |
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TELLS YOU VERY DIFFICULT THINGS , BUT IN A VOICE THAT MAKES IT ALL RIGHT TO HEAR. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY TRIP. THE JOURNEY'S GOING TO BE BUMPY,...
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| 00:14:32 |
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BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY BEEN THERE, AND I'M HOLDING YOUR HAND AND YOU CAN GO WITH ME. IT'S GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE VOICE. THAT'S THE COMFORT...
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| 00:15:46 |
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MORE MINUTES. IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME -- AND I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU THIS BEFORE -- BUT I THOUGHT WE COULD HEAR YOUR VOICE THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF...
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| 00:16:35 |
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BY ME SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERED BY THE RETURN OF WHAT SHE BELIEVES TO BE THE DAUGHTER SHE KILLED. >> WE PICK IT UP WHEN THE FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT IS ABOUT...
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| 00:17:08 |
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OVER. MINE'S STARTED NOW. SCHOOLTEACHER BEAT HIS HAT AGAINST HIS THIGH AND SPIT BEFORE LEAVING THEWOOD SHED. NEPHEW AND THE CATCHER BACKED OUT WITH...
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| 00:17:22 |
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FLOWER IN HER HAT. AND THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT THE SEVEN OR SO FACES THAT HAD EDGED CLOSER IN SPITE OF THE CATCHES. RIFLE WARNING, ENOUGH FOR NOW, LITTLE...
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| 00:20:14 |
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TO WEAR THE CLOTHES, WEAR
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| 00:20:17 |
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THE SHOES, BEHAVE THE WAY THAT PERSON WOULD. SO YOU HAVE TO ENTER OR PROJECT AND KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY PART THEIR HAIR AND WHAT KINDS OF SOAP THEY...
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| 00:21:27 |
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WHAT MUST THAT FEEL LIKE, OR IN "PARADISE," TO HEAR ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED ALL THAT DISTANCE TO GET TO FREE BLACK TOWNS AND WERE TURNED AWAY...
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| 00:21:39 |
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SLAVES LIKE THEM, AND THEY WERE NOT WELCOME THERE. I THOUGHT, MY GOD, WHAT THAT WOULD FEEL LIKE. SO I KNOW WHAT THE STORY IS ABOUT. I SORT OF KNOW THE...
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| 00:22:40 |
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MY LIFE. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT YOUR FIRST READING FOR "PARADISE" AT THE BAPTIST CHURCH IN HARLEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND I WANTED TO KNOW,...
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| 00:23:47 |
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SUBSEQUENTLY INTO MOVIES, GOOD MOVIES, MEDIOCRE
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| 00:23:50 |
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MOVIES, GREAT MOVIES, WHATEVER, THAT'S ANOTHER THING, THAT'S ANOTHER ART FORM. AND THE BOOK HAS TO STAND ON THE SHELF BY ITSELF. IT'S A SPECIAL KIND...
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| 00:25:08 |
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THIS WAS NOT A STORY TO PASS ON, AND THIS IS NOT A STORY TO PASS ON. ADDITIONALLY, MY STUDENTS OFTEN INQUIRE WHETHER "BELOVED" IS PHYSICALLY PREGNANT....
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| 00:25:49 |
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THEIR EXPIATIONS ON HER. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE BURIED SCENE CONCERNS A LITTLE PASSAGE. MAYBE THIS GIRL IS A SURVIVOR OF THE MIDDLE PASSAGE, TRAUMATIZED...
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| 00:27:10 |
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LIFE? AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IT SEEMS TO BE THE FIRST BOOK WHERE THERE'S A MALE PROTAGONIST AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS THAT SHIFT FOR YOU FROM...
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| 00:27:47 |
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AN OVERWHELMING AND DRAMATIC MARK, BUT ONE THAT YOU KEEP WORKING AT. IT SEEMED GOOD AND DOMESTIC FOR HER. THE SHIFT TO WRITING ABOUT MEN WAS A MIGHTY...
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| 00:29:18 |
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AND IT HAD A REBIRTH WHEN IT WAS SELECTED BY OPRAH ABOUT 20 YEARS LATER. >> THAT'S TRUE. SHE SELECTED IT AS ONE OF HER BOOK CLUB CHOICES, AND IT SOLD...
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| 00:29:37 |
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IT'S MADE AN
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| 00:29:39 |
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ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE. EVEN WHEN I WAS IN PUBLISHING FOR OVER 20
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| 00:29:42 |
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YEARS, THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE ALWAYS HOPING WOULD HAPPEN, NOT JUST THE BESTSELLERS WHICH TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, WORK, BUT JUST HAVE
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| 00:29:54 |
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READING BY YOUR EVERYDAY BOOKS,
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| 00:29:59 |
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INTERESTING BOOKS, BECOME A HABIT, A PROFOUND HABIT, NOT AMONG THE COLLECTORS OR THE ACTED HICKS, BUT EVERYDAY WORK -- OR THE ACADEMICS, BUT EVERYDAY...
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| 00:31:22 |
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DEAD? AND THE MAN WAS A LITTLE DRUNK, AND HE PUT ALL THIS INFORMATION IN THE WRONG SPACE, SO HIS NAME IS MACON DEAD. HIS FIRST NAME IS WHERE HE WAS...
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| 00:31:35 |
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BECOME HIS LAST NAME, ETC. >> NEXT TELEPHONE CALL FOR TONI MORRISON IS FROM SAN DIEGO, WELCOME. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. CALLER: YES, TONI, LET ME JUST TURN...
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| 00:31:58 |
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SEVENTH BIRTHDAY. MY NAME WAS THEN ANNE COOK WHEN WE KNEW EACH OTHER. >> ANNE COOK? CALLER: YES. >> HOWARD UNIVERSITY? CALLER: YES, NOW TYCO. I WAS...
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| 00:32:24 |
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THAT SINCE
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| 00:32:27 |
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YOU'VE OBTAINED CELEBRITY STATUS, THERE'S BEEN SORT OF A DIFFERENCE IN TREATMENT THAT PEOPLE YOU'VE KNOWN HAVE GIVEN TO YOU. BUT I'M CALLING NOW...
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| 00:34:14 |
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HAVE WRITTEN, PARTICULARLY WITH THAT VIDEO THAT WAS DONE TO ACCOMPANY YOUR READINGS FROM "BELOVED" THAT WAS DONE BY LONDON TELEVISION. IT OPENED A LOT...
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| 00:34:50 |
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BEGAN TO BE WELL
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| 00:34:52 |
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KNOWN OR KNOWN AT ALL, BECAUSE I WAS A MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN. I DIDN'T PUBLISH, I DIDN'T WRITE UNTIL I WAS 39 YEARS OLD. SO I HAD ALREADY FORMED A PERSONALITY,...
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| 00:35:07 |
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JOB. AND SO THE VULNERABILITY OF CELEBRITYHOOD WAS -- I WAS NEVER INTERESTED IN IT, IT HAD OF NO INTEREST TO ME WHATSOEVER. I FELT MY WORK WAS EXTREMELY...
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| 00:36:16 |
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MAYBE IT'S
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| 00:36:18 |
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POST-NOBEL PRIZE, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT, I THINK IT'S AFTER BEING A COUPLE OF TIMES ON OPRAH WINFREY'S SHOW, AND I FELT MORE AND MORE THE DISADVANTAGES...
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| 00:38:40 |
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1930'S, AND I'M ONE OF SEVEN GIRLS. OUR HOME WAS PRETTY MUCH LIKE HERS. WE WOULD WALK -- WE ALL LOVED BOOKS, AND WE WOULD WALK FOR MILES OVER THE...
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| 00:40:20 |
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THAN THEMSELVES, THE CHILDREN, THEIR HUSBANDS, THEIR NURTURING QUALITIES, THEY WERE SO PROFOUND. AND WE WERE BEING ASKED TO GIVE THOSE UP IN ORDER...
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| 00:42:47 |
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I, SLADE MORRISON, HE WAS A LITTLE KID, HAD SOME UNPLEASANTNESS AS A TEACHER, DISCIPLINARY, AND SHE HAD SAID TO HIM, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO USE YOUR
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| 00:43:01 |
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FREEDOM, AND IT HURT HIM SO MUCH. SO WE WROTE THAT. OR I RHYMED IT, AND HE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. AND THEN LATER, OH THESE MANY YEARS LATER, I...
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| 00:43:51 |
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REAL ENGAGEMENT. AND THE CHILDREN ARE BEGGING AND IN ALL THESE VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTS FOR AN OPPORTUNITY
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| 00:43:57 |
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TO JUST BE FREE, WHATEVER THAT MEANT IN THEIR OWN WAY. >> IF YOU WERE TO SIT WITH A CHILD IN YOUR LAP, READ THIS ALOUD, HOW WOULD YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT...
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| 00:44:22 |
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IT INSTANTLY. THEY KNOW. I MEAN, WE REALLY DO UNDERESTIMATE THE BRILLIANT LITTLE KIDS. WE TEST THEM AND WE SEE THEM DO BALLET, WE THINK THAT'S WHERE...
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| 00:44:37 |
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SORTS OF WAYS WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN. CHILDREN KNOW WHEN THEY'RE BEING BOUGHT BY THEIR PARENTS WITH TOYS. THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, GIVEN...
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| 00:45:37 |
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WRITING, WHICH IS WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO WHEN I GREW UP. I HAD BEEN
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| 00:45:41 |
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A SYSTEMS CONSULTANT FOR MANY YEARS AND WROTE MANY CONSULTING REPORTS, AND THIS IS A GENRE THAT IS NOT GENERALLY CONSIDERED LITERATURE, TO SAY THE LEAST....
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| 00:47:49 |
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IT. I JUST
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| 00:47:50 |
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CANNOT NOT THINK THAT WAY, AND I CANNOT FOR LONG NOT WRITE. FOR ME, IT'S KIND OF AN EXTENSION ALMOST OF READING, WHICH I DID ALL MY LIFE AND DO STILL....
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| 00:49:04 |
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OUR CONVERSATION WITH TONI MORRISON CONTINUES. WE HAVE TWO HOURS TO TALK ABOUT HER LIFE'S WORK HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SO FAR, MOST OF OUR CONVERSATION...
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| 00:58:45 |
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NONFICTION? >> WELL, THE WORKS OF NONFICTION FOR THE MOST PART, UNLESS THEY'RE CEREMONIAL SPEECHES, THE OTHERS ARE ACADEMIC OR POLITICAL ARGUMENTS...
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| 00:59:10 |
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FICTION WHERE I CAN EXPERIMENT AND POSE SEVERAL KINDS OF QUESTIONS, UP MUCH MORE AMBIGUOUS AND I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING EXCEPT CREDIBILITY AND...
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| 01:00:05 |
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BY PROFOUNDLY CONSERVATIVE IDEAS,
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| 01:00:08 |
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JUST APPALLED. >>
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| 01:00:09 |
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WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A PROFOUND CONSERVATIVE IDEA? >> A PROFOUNDLY CONSERVATIVE
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| 01:00:15 |
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IDEA WOULD BE THE IMPOSITION OF ONE RELIGION. ON THE WHOLE OF SOCIETY. THE IMPOSITION OF THOSE
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| 01:00:30 |
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RELIGIONS' PRESEPTEMBERS ON THE WHOLE OF SOCIETY. I AM A
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| 01:00:34 |
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CATHOLIC, I KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S POSITION ON ABORTION. I THINK ITS IMPOSITION ON THE WHOLE WORLD IS A TRAVESTY. THOSE THINGS. AND THEY TROUBLE...
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| 01:01:41 |
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BOOKTV@ C-SPAN.ORG. NEXT TELEPHONE CALL IS FROM NEW YORK. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? CALLER: YES, I WANTED TO DISCUSS "BELOVED" AND "SONG OF SOLOMON."...
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| 01:03:35 |
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LIFE IS IN POSING THOSE QUESTIONS. IN "BELOVED," FOR EXAMPLE, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE LIFE OF SETHA MET ITS OWN CRITERIA OF DIFFICULTY MEETING SOMEONE...
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| 01:06:31 |
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WATER ALL THE TIME WHILE I'M WRITING
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| 01:06:34 |
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IN MY OWN STUDY. >> IS THE PROCESS OF WRITING A CHALLENGING ONE FOR YOU? SOME WRITERS DESCRIBE IT AS THE MOST EXHAUSTING WORK THAT THEY DO IN THEIR...
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| 01:06:59 |
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MUCH. I HAVE TO RESELECT, RESHAPE SO MUCH. BUT IT'S SO REWARDING WHEN IT'S CLOSE TO WHERE YOU REALLY THINK
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| 01:07:10 |
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THAT NOTE SHOULD BE STRUCK. ONCE IN A WHILE IT GOES ALONG AT A CLIP, AND IT'S SORT OF LOVELY, AND IT RESTS THERE AND EVEN SURVIVES IN THE FINAL BOOK...
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| 01:09:07 |
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20 YEARS OLD. AND I WANTED TO ASK YOU HOW YOU DEAL WITH CRITICISM FROM NOT ONLY OTHER PEOPLE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY ANY MOMENTS OF SELF-DOUBT OR INSECURITY...
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| 01:09:20 |
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WORK. HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT? >> I WAS FORTUNATE HAVING LEARNED AS A TEACHER HOW TO SAY TO A STUDENT, THIS IS TERRIBLE, IN LANGUAGE THAT WAS DIPLOMATIC...
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| 01:09:47 |
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I MENTIONED BEFORE IN HAVING EXPERIENCED THAT KIND OF CRITICISM MYSELF, WHERE PEOPLE WOULD PUT TO ME SERIOUS QUESTIONS. AND I KNEW THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT...
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| 01:11:15 |
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TO ME IN A VERY SPECIFIC WAY. I OBVIOUSLY ADMIRED HIS -- IN A NUMBER OF WAYS, HIS COURAGE, HIS INTELLECT, HIS FEROCITY, MOSTLY HIS CLARITY. IN LANGUAGE,...
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| 01:11:34 |
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BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT VERY SERIOUS SITUATIONS OF RACE AND VIOLENCE AND LOVE IN LANGUAGE THAT WAS BOTH SCATHING AND AT THE SAME TIME LOVING....
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| 01:12:59 |
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AND THURSDAY MEN ARE SATISFIED. I CAN TELL FROM THEIR LOOKS, OUTLAW LOVES ABOUT TO BE OR ALREADY HAS BEEN. AND JUST -- I THINK IT WAS BABY, THE THING...
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| 01:13:52 |
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FORMS, IT'S ALSO FREE. SOME OF THE BEST POETRY, JUST REALLY FIRST-RATE SENTENCES, REALLY GOOD SENTENCES, TWO REALLY GOOD SENTENCES. AND WHEN I WRITE,...
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| 01:15:13 |
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YOU APPROACHED "BELOVED," "JAZZ" AND "PARADISE" AS WELL? >> I HAD IN MIND THREE STORIES OF THE SAME THEME, VARIATIONS OF HUMAN LOVE, LOVE OF A MOTHER...
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| 01:15:39 |
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THE SLAVERY, I TOLD MY EDITOR, I'M SORRY, I JUST KNOW I'VE EXHAUSTED ALL THIS TIME. I'VE ONLY GOT A THIRD OF IT. AND HE THOUGHT THAT I HAD WRITTEN...
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| 01:17:16 |
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I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I JUST HEARD ABOUT HISTORY OF SLAVERY
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| 01:17:20 |
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IN "BELOVED." YOU TOOK ME INTO IT, AND I WAS AFFECTED BY IT. IT WASN'T JUST LIKE I KNOW SOMETHING NEW. SO TO ME, THAT'S THE MAGIC OF YOUR WRITING....
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| 01:17:54 |
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PULL OUT A GENUINE CHARACTER. IT DOESN'T JUST SEEM FLOWERY, BUT YOU ACTUALLY BRING ACROSS SOMETHING REAL. IS THAT HARD FOR YOU, OR HOW DO YOU GO...
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| 01:18:29 |
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FORGETTABLE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE FOR MY IMAGINATION. I CAN'T HELP. I CAN'T COOPERATE WITH THE WRITER IN INVENTING THE CHARACTER. SO FREQUENTLY...
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| 01:20:57 |
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VERY INTEGRAL TO THE CREATIVE PROCESS, TO YOUR CREATIVE PROCESS, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW YOU NAME YOUR CHARACTERS. >> WELL, THERE ARE TWO REASONS...
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| 01:21:28 |
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MYSELF, AND IT'S MY JOB TO FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE. SOMETIMES I CALL THEM BY NAMES, AND NOTHING HAPPENS. I CALLED EVA ADA FOR YEARS AND COULDN'T GET...
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| 01:25:01 |
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BEGAN TO EDIT "THE
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| 01:25:03 |
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NEW YORKER." SINCE THEN, I THINK HE'S AVAILABLE, HIS GOOD OFFICES, FOR ANY SUBSEQUENT PROJECTS I HAVE. HE IS REALLY, TRULY A FIRST-RATE EDITOR FOR ME....
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| 01:25:36 |
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BUT I KNOW THAT A FIRST-RATE EDITOR IS LIKE A FIRST-RATE
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| 01:25:44 |
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ANYTHING. SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT CORRECT YOU SO MUCH AS GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION, ALLOW YOU THE SPACES TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS, CALL YOUR ATTENTION...
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| 01:27:23 |
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AMERICAN AFRICANISM IN HISTORY. AND I THINK WHAT I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IS NOW THE CULTURE OF WHAT YOUNG WRITERS ARE IN TODAY AND EVERYTHING. DO...
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| 01:28:42 |
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SOMETHING
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| 01:28:43 |
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ABOUT WRITING THAT IS SORT OF PERFECT AND FLAWLESS AND DOESN'T INVOLVE RACE. IT'S CONFUSING, BECAUSE EVERYTHING EXCELLENT CLASSICAL BOOK THAT WE'VE EVER...
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| 01:31:47 |
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WOULD HAVE SOME ADVICE ABOUT HOW YOU FOUND YOURS? >> I REALLY DON'T THINK I CAN TELL YOU. THE POINT IS TO RECOGNIZE IT WHEN YOU WRITE IT. SO I WOULD...
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| 01:32:11 |
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BE "HE" OR "SHE." SOME OF THEM WHICH MAY BE "YOU." YOU KNOW, TAKE THE SORT OF OMNIPOTENT VOICE THAT'S SPEAKING DIRECTLY. PLAY. PLAY. AND THEN AT SOME...
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| 01:33:23 |
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ABUSE. YOUTHS THAT HAVE PARENTS THAT
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| 01:33:26 |
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DON'T SHOW THEM LOVE BECAUSE AS PARENTS THEIR OWN PARENTS HAVE FAILED TO TEACH THEM HOW TO LOVE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS A REFLECTION OF FAMILY...
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| 01:34:11 |
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THINK. AND WE LEARN IT BETTER IF WE ARE SERIOUS AND EXPOSED TO IT. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS, I JUST DESCRIBE THREE BOOKS THAT WERE...
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| 01:37:42 |
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WHO WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING ME TO PRINCETON, RUTH SIMMONS IS HER NAME. AND SHE WAS ON THE PHONE AND SHE SAID YOU WON. AND I SAID WON WHAT?...
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| 01:37:53 |
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NOBEL PRIZE FOR LITERATURE. AND I THOUGHT INSTANTLY THAT SHE COULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS THAT. AND...
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| 01:40:09 |
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IMPORTANT. SO SHE GOT TO ENJOY
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| 01:40:11 |
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IT. >> DID SHE GO TO SWEDEN WITH
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| 01:40:13 |
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YOU? >> NO, SHE WAS TOO SICK FOR
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| 01:40:15 |
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THAT. >> I HAVE A COPY OF YOUR SPEECH
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| 01:40:17 |
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WHICH HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. BUT HOW DID YOU USE THAT
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| 01:40:22 |
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OPPORTUNITY? >> TO DELIVER THE ACCEPTANCE SPEECH AND THE KIND OF LECTURE THEY WANT THE LITERARY WINNERS TO DO VERY MUCH LIKE THE
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| 01:40:32 |
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SCIENTIFIC ONES, GIVE
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| 01:40:34 |
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SCIENTIFIC PAPERS, I THOUGHT I WOULD
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| 01:40:36 |
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TRY VERY HARD TO HAVE GIVE A SPEECH THAT DID ENACT WHAT THE
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| 01:40:46 |
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SUBJECT WAS, WHICH WAS THE VALUE OF NARRATIVE, THAT IT IS THE MAJOR FORM IN WHICH WE ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE. WE SET IT UP AS A NARRATIVE. THERE ARE OTHER...
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| 01:42:46 |
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TO GIVE THAT PRIZE OUT TO WOMEN BECAUSE, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO WRITE A SPEECH THAT'S WORTHY, YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING TO WEAR. THE MEN JUST COME...
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| 01:42:58 |
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RENT A TUX. >> RENT A TUX, THEY'RE READY. AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME AND YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN CLOTHES, IT TOOK FOREVER. SO I FELT VERY REPRESENTATIONAL....
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| 01:43:18 |
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WRITERLY. I FELT LIKE AN OHIOAN.
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| 01:43:21 |
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I TOOK ALL THESE RESPONSIBILITIES OF REPRESENTATION ON. AND I FELT LIKE THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN WRITER -- I FELT ALL OF THAT, WHICH WAS REALLY SERIOUS,...
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| 01:45:04 |
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EVERY ONE MEANS SO MUCH TO ME IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE EVERY
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| 01:45:07 |
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TIME I READ SOMETHING FROM THE THREE OF YOU, IT'S LIKE I START WRITING. I KNOW WHEN I READ ONE OF YOUR BOOKS I'M GOING TO GET INSPIRED TO WRITE. WHEN...
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| 01:46:20 |
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YENT BECAUSE OF HER TECHNICAL ECK PER TEASE AND THE WAY SHE WORKS IT. YOU CANNOT RELY ON SIMPLY THIS SORT OF INSPIRATIONAL CONNECTION. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE...
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| 01:48:33 |
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WRITTEN? >> OH, WELL,
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| 01:48:34 |
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I'M NOT
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| 01:48:35 |
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GOING TO
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| 01:48:36 |
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LIST ANY FIVE PARTICULAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN READING A LONG, LONG TIME. AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE OUT SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN A MAJOR EDUCATION...
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| 01:48:55 |
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FANTASTIC, OR THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE FLAWLESS AND LATER TURN OUT NOT TO BE. BUT MORE OFTEN, THINGS THAT HAVE JUST STAYED AND TAUGHT MORE AND...
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| 01:50:26 |
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COLETTE BY SOMEBODY WHOSE NAME I HAVE FORTEN ALREADY. QUITE RECENT, WHICH IS TO SAY I DO READ A LOT OF BIOGRAPHY. LESS AUTOBIOGRAPHY A. GREAT DEAL...
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| 01:50:43 |
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BIOGRAPHY. WHEN I'M TRAVELING, QUICK STORIES. I READ A LOT OF DETECTIVE STORIES. >> DETECTIVE STORIES. >> YES. AND I READ A LOT OF LITERARY THEORY. ...
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| 01:51:09 |
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OF ACADEMIC THINGS. >> AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL GOING AT ONE TIME, IT SOUNDS
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| 01:51:14 |
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LIKE. >> I DO. WITH THAT. I JUST READ "WHITE TEETH" BY A GIRL ZOE SMITH. IT WAS QUITE GOOD. WHEN PEOPLE SEND ME BOOKS AND I'M ABLE TO GET TO THEM,...
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| 01:51:32 |
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I LOVED A LOT OF THE CONTEMPORARY FICTION, WHICH I LOOK
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| 01:51:36 |
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FOR. AND SOMETIMES I AM DELIGHTED WITH FINDING SOMETHING RIGHT OFF THE SHELF, SO TO SPEAK. >> THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO GO BACK TO THAT QUESTION...
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| 01:52:08 |
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HEADLINE. WHETHER TO EACH A OR B IS RIDICULOUS. ACADEMICS, PUNDITS
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| 01:52:17 |
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SETTING UP FALSE ARGUMENTS ABOUT CHOICES THAT REALLY DON'T EXIST. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE FORCED INTO MAKING THAT CHOICE. THE WHOLE POINT IS TO READ MORE,...
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| 01:55:42 |
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AND I'M WONDERING, AND THAT HAPPENED ALSO WHEN I WENT TO SEE THE
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| 01:55:46 |
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FILM. I FELT EXHAUSTED AFTER THE FILM WAS OVER. ALTHOUGH I ENJOYED IT SO MUCH, YET AT THE SAME TIME IT WAS PHYSICALLY DRAINING AND EMOTIONALLY, I SUPPOSE....
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| 01:56:36 |
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IMAGE. -- IMAGINE.
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| 01:56:38 |
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AND MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO EITHER. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE THEME IS FORGETTING. EVERYBODY IN THE BOOK IS TRYING TO FORGET. OR NOT SAYING ANYTHING...
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| 02:01:07 |
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SENSE THAT I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IT'S BEING A DEPRESSION CHILD WHERE EVERYBODY HAD TO HAVE FOUR LITTLE JOBS IN ORDER TO -- I DON'T...
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| 02:01:26 |
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MUCH. AND I DO WORK, AND I DO LECTURE, AND I DO WRITE THINGS OTHER THAN NOVELS, AND I WRITE LYRICS, BEAUTIFUL. I MEAN BEAUTIFUL -- SOME OF THEM ARE...
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| 02:02:45 |
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IT LOOKS. I NEVER WANT TO LEAVE IT. AND MY IDEA IS, IN ADDITION TO, I DON'T
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| 02:02:52 |
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KNOW,
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| 02:02:53 |
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FRIENDS,
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| 02:02:54 |
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DINNER, GARDENING, AND READING. IT'S PLENTY. >> CROFTON, MARYLAND. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. IT'S BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO ME. AND...
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| 02:03:26 |
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LOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T
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| 02:03:28 |
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HIS. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU THINK THIS FEELING OF NOT OWNING SOMETHING WILL CHANGE? AND I DON'T MEAN RACE SPECIFIC, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU -- NOW...
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| 02:04:08 |
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TO SETTLE OR TO JUST LOVE IT. AND HIS SOLUTION IS TO LOVE A LITTLE BIT SO THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE LEFT OVER THE NEXT TIME. MY FEELING IS WE BELONG HERE....
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| 02:05:56 |
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ALSO. MANY PEOPLE READ ONE WHEN THEY
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| 02:06:07 |
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WERE QUITE YOUNG. IT'S NOT A CHILDREN'S BOOK. IT'S A VERY ADULT SUBJECT. AND I KNOW THERE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY YOUNG GIRL WHO IS READ THE STORY...
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| 02:06:59 |
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WOMEN BEFORE, BUT WHEN WOMEN WERE FRIENDS, CLOSE FRIENDS, IN MOST CLASSICAL LITERATURE OF EUROPE AND
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| 02:07:07 |
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ENGLAND, THEIR POINT -- THE POINT OF THE FRIENDSHIP WAS ABOUT MEN. HOW DO TO THE GET MARRIED, ADVICE ON MARRIAGE, HOUSEKEEPING, ETC. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT...
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| 02:08:34 |
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BE DISCUSING IT
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| 02:08:38 |
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WITH. THERE'S ABOUT 13 OF US. WE HAVE A STRONG CATHOLIC BACK GROUND. MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE THEOLOGY IN THAT BOOK, IN PARTICULAR, THE WHOLE...
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| 02:10:01 |
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IT'S EXQUISITE. YOU KNOW, IT'S
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| 02:10:04 |
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THE PROTESTANT TRADITIONALISM, THE CATHOLIC TRADITIONALISM. AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD THING, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF AFRICANNIST RELIGIONS AND CATHOLICISM...
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| 02:12:51 |
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FINGER DOWN, VERY MUCH THE WAY IT HAPPENED IN A BOOK I WROTE "SON OF SOLOMON." WHERE PILOT GOT HER NAME THAT WAY. AND I THINK IN THE PASSAGE THAT
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| 02:13:02 |
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WAS IDENTIFIED. SHE AND HER PARENTS AND ALL OF US PRONOUNCED RAYMA. SHE SAID IT WAS A VILLAGE. AND I NEVER SEARCHED FURTHER TO SEE IF THE VILLAGE...
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| 02:13:44 |
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LOVING WOMEN. >> THIS PROCESS OF CHOOSING DEDICATIONS, PROBABLY A DICEY ONE. >> VERY. IT'S A SKIPPY PART. IT'S THE ONE THAT NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO READ...
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| 02:13:57 |
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ME. SO I HAVE SOMETIMES DISGUISED THEM AND SOMETIME BEEN FORTHRIGHT ABOUT THEM. BUT IT'S ALL VERY SUBJECTIVE. >> DO
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| 02:14:06 |
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YOU HAVE, AND THIS IS PERHAPS LIKE CHOOSING AMONG CHILDREN, BUT DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE ON YOUR
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| 02:14:10 |
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BOOKS? >> NO, THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT FOR ME. DIFFERENT OBSTACLES I SET MYSELF, DIFFERENT KINDS OF SUCCESS THAT I THINK I'VE ACHIEVED, OR THINGS I...
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| 02:14:26 |
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THE ONES THAT GET THE MOST ATTENTION ARE NOT THE ONES THAT
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| 02:14:32 |
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WERE MOST SATISFYING TO ME AS AN ARTIST. SOMETIMES THE STORY IS OVERWHELM ING IN THE PUBLIC'S MIND, THE ART. I'M INTERESTED IN THE STORY. BUT FOR...
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| 02:15:27 |
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EYE." THERE'S THESE DESPICABLE THINGS
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| 02:15:29 |
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AND YET YOU TAKE US TO THIS PLACE AND SHOW US HIS BACKGROUND AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I FEEL FOR HIM AND I'M SHOCKED THAT I DO. IS THAT ONE OF YOUR GOALS,...
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| 02:16:09 |
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ELSE. NO ONE IS, YOU KNOW, CONTRARY TO WHAT WE MAY THINK FROM THE PRESS, JUST ONE THING. THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS GOING ON. AND THAT'S WHAT PERCEPTION...
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| 02:17:06 |
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SCHOOL. OF COURSE, THEY TOTALLY GOT IT, JUST AS YOU SAID. SEVENTH GRADERS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PUT IN BOXES EVERY DAY. SHE WENT ON TO ASK IF WE COULD SHARE...
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| 02:17:55 |
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TESTS, AND STRUCTURE TESTS, AND MAKE EXCELLENT GRADES, BUT WHEN YOU -- BUT THEY CAN'T SEE, THEY CAN'T VISUALIZE, LITRY, A STORY. WHEN YOU SAY CAN YOU...
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| 02:19:08 |
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AMAZING. >> IT'S AMAZING TO YOU? >> I'VE NEVER SEEN ALL THOSE BOOKS. >> WHAT DOES IT SUGGEST? YOU TALK ABOUT BOOKS WORKING THEIR WAY INTO THE CANNON....
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| 02:19:28 |
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THEY LEND THEMSELVESES TO A FLUMBER
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| 02:19:30 |
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OF ARGUMENTS
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| 02:19:31 |
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AND ESSAYS.
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| 02:19:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEY LEND THEMSELVES, MY BOOKS DO, TO INVESTIGATION, LIKE A FIELD. IT'S TRUE IN GERMANY. IT'S TRUE IN ITALY. IT'S TRUE
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| 02:19:41 |
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IN JAPAN. IT'S TRUE IN FRANCE. IT'S TRUE IN ENGLAND. AND I'M JUST DELIGHTED TO NOTE THAT IT MEANS THAT MANY OF MY BOOKS HAVE WORKED THEIR WAY INTO THE...
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| 02:20:23 |
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LANGUAGE. AND CERTAINLY NOT THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE
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| 02:20:31 |
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AREA WHICH IT CAME. I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THE PURELY NEW CRITICISM READING, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT CAME IN THE 50'S. BUT I GOT VERY MUCH ENCHANTED BY...
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| 02:21:49 |
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MORRISON. A
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| 02:21:50 |
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CALLER CALLED IN EARLIER AND MENTIONED HIS THREE FAVORITE WRITERS. MY THREE FAVORITE ARE MS. MORRISON, JAMES BALDWIN, AND CHARLES DICKENS. AND I WONDERED...
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| 02:23:09 |
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TEACH. BECAUSE
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| 02:23:10 |
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TEACHING IS VERY ANALYTICAL. YOU'RE TAKING SOMETHING APART. YOU'RE SHAPING AN ARGUMENT. YOU'RE TRYING TO PERSUADE, OR AT LEAST OPEN UP SOMETHING IN...
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| 02:24:52 |
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MORAL IMAGINATION AND WHAT ROLE AS YOUR RELIGIOUS SENSIBILITY PLAYED IN YOUR LITERATURE? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, MY -- BEING GOOD AND DOING GOOD, THAT IS...
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| 02:25:27 |
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THEATRICS. PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO IT. IT HAS A TOP HAT, SO TO SPEAK, AND A COSTUME. AND IT SPEAKS THE LOUDEST. BUT IT'S REALLY BORING FUNDAMENTALLY....
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| 02:29:49 |
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BRILLIANT IN PHILOSOPHY,
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| 02:29:53 |
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THEOLOGY, THEREFORE
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| 02:29:55 |
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PSYCHOLOGY. I HAVE NOT READ ANYTHING YOU THEREFORE PSYCHOLOGY.
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| 02:29:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I HAVE NOT READ ANYTHING YOU READ. I JUST HAPPENED NONPROGRAM, THANK GOD FOR C-SPAN. THIS SPIRITUALITY YOU HAVE, AND I GUESS JUST WORKING IT, AS YOU...
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| 02:30:52 |
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WASN'T. IN A
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| 02:30:53 |
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FUNNY WAY, BEING A MOTHER WAS EXTREMELY LIBERATING FOR ME. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE THINK OF IT AS, YOU KNOW, ADDED RESPONSIBILITY, NARROWING, PERHAPS, OF...
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| 02:31:07 |
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OF LEAVE -- AS FARMERS USED TO SAY, CAN'T LEAVE THE STOCK. SO HE COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE. AND IT HAS THAT FEELING, I THINK, FOR MANY PEOPLE. BUT IN...
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| 02:33:14 |
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SHE WAS THIS PERSON WHO WAS DEEP, LIKE HER FATHER, MY GRANDFATHER, YOU KNOW, TEARS
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| 02:33:19 |
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STREAMING DOWN HER FACE. AND IT WAS INFECTIOUS, AND IT WAS MARVELOUS. AND I KNOW CULTURALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DESCRIBED, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, SORT...
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| 02:35:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN PILOT AND THIS
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| 02:35:27 |
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THEME OF FLIGHT. AND ONE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT IS AT THE END OF THE NOVEL WHEN MILTMAN IS FINALLY ABLE TO FLY, HE SAYS THAT PILOT WAS ABLE TO...
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| 02:35:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FLY
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| 02:35:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FINALLY? AND WHY CAN PILOT FLY ALL ALONG? >> WELL, FLIGHT FOR ME WAS PART OF AN AFRICAN MYTH ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE BEFORE THEY WERE ENSLAVED, WERE ABLE...
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| 02:36:08 |
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TRYING TO LOCATE WHAT SLAVE STORIES WERE LIKE, PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK THIS QUESTION. DID YOU EVER HEAR OF ANYBODY WHO COULD FLY? AND THEN PEOPLE SAID NO,...
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| 02:38:12 |
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AND HOLDING
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| 02:38:13 |
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THEIR HAND WHILE YOU WERE TELLING THEM HARD TRUTHS. I WAS VERY TOUCHED BY THOSE WORDS BECAUSE IN A SENSE,
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| 02:38:19 |
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THAT'S WHAT I DO. AND MY MENTORS
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| 02:38:22 |
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AND TEACHERS IRVING POLSTER IS WORLD RENOWNED FOR THEIR WORK IN THERAPY ARE ALSO WOOTERS. IRVING WROTE A BOOK CALLED "EVERY PERSON'S LIFE IS WORTH A...
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| 02:39:28 |
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HER. YOU HAVE TO ASK HER.
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| 02:39:30 |
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SHE'LL TELL YOU. >> YEAH, OF COURSE. >> YOU KNOW SHE WILL. >> YES, YES. >> BUT ONLY YOU CAN
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| 02:39:36 |
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INTERPRET THE SIGNS AND
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| 02:39:37 |
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HEAR HER
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| 02:39:38 |
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VOICE. >> YES. >>
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| 02:39:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BUT THERE'S NOBODY BETTER IN A BETTER POSITION TO TELL YOU,
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| 02:39:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A, WHETHER TO DO IT, WHEN TO DO IT, HOW TO DO IT. AND TO
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| 02:39:46 |
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GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION. >>
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| 02:39:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YEAH, YEAH. WHAT I WAS REALLY STRUCK
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| 02:39:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WITH
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| 02:39:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WITH YOUR WORDS IN
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| 02:39:54 |
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YOUR BOOKS AND ALSO READING YOUR
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| 02:39:56 |
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BOOKS IS THIS IDEA OF OPPRESSION AND
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| 02:39:59 |
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OVERCOMING
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| 02:40:00 |
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OBSTACLES. THE HEROISM OF WOMEN IN THAT PROCESS THAT WOULD AFFECT ANYONE WHO HAS SUFFERED OPPRESSION. ALTHOUGH
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| 02:40:10 |
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I'M NOT BLACK, I WENT THROUGH WOOCHING MY MOTHER'S OPPRESSION, OPPRESSION BY A SMALL TOWN, YOU KNOW, CONVENTIONAL ATTITUDE. AND IN SOME WAYS, SQUASHED...
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| 02:40:47 |
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BLUEST EYE"? AND DO YOU THINK I SHOULD READ IT? >> I'LL ANSWER THE SECOND
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| 02:40:55 |
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QUESTION FIRST. WAIT A LITTLE BIT. BEFORE YOU READ IT. DON'T READ IT IF YOU'RE 10. WAIT UNTIL LATER. ASK YOUR PARENTS. AND WHAT MADE ME WRITE IT...
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| 02:41:14 |
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WORTHY OF A BOOK IN THE WORLD. >> WE'VE GOT 15 MINUTES MORE WITH TONI MORRISON AND LOTS OF E-MAILS, LOTS OF -- GOT SOME WATER FOR YOU. CAN YOU LAST 15...
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| 02:41:40 |
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PUBLISHED AT E-BOOKS? HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE PROCESS OF READING A BOOK ON A SCREEN, SINCE YOU WERE TALKING BEFORE ABOUT RELYING ON SCREENS PERHAPS...
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| 02:41:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 02:41:53 |
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CULTURE. >> I HAD
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| 02:41:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AN INITIAL HOSTILITY TO THE NOTION, AND THEN I GOT A SAMPLE OF AN E-BOOK, AND I LOOKED AT IT. IT WAS EASY TO HANDLE. I READ SOMETHING ON IT, AND I WAS...
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| 02:42:18 |
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UNCOMFORTABLE. AND THEN I READ ON IT -- THEY HAD ALREADY, YOU KNOW, HAD THESE BOOKS IN, JACK LUNDEN'S "SEA WOLF," WHICH I HAVEN'T READ SINCE I WAS...
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| 02:43:51 |
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CONTEMPTIBLE OR CONTEMPTOUS WORD FOR ITSELF. IT'S A KIND OF SURVIVALIST STRATEGY. BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE GROWING
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| 02:44:04 |
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RAPIDLY OUT OF FAVOR IN CERTAIN GRUPES OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS THEMSELVES. I HEARD IT A LOT WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICANS AS A KIND OF WORD...
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| 02:45:43 |
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ABSOLUTELY IR REVEVCAABLY BEAUTIFUL AT THE SAME TIME. >> THIS ONE IS COMPLICATED. I REMEMBER THE QUESTION BY A REPORTER AND YOUR ANSWER WHEN YOU WERE...
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| 02:45:53 |
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WHITE CHARACTERS MORE PROMINENTLY ON YOUR WORKS. NOW IT'S IN THE NEWS THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS WILL SOON BE ABLE TO USE D.N.A. TO TRACE THEIR AN ZESTERS...
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| 02:46:08 |
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NATIONS. I WONDER HOW AFRICAN-AMERICAN WRITERS WILL RESPOND TO THESE AN ZESTERS -- AN ZESTERS. -- ANCESTORS. >> THE REPORTER'S QUESTION WAS CERTAINLY...
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| 02:46:39 |
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I KNEW WAS THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF A REPORTER TO MAKE ME COMMENT ON THE SOCIOLOGICAL ASPECT OF BEING AN ARTIST, NOT THE ART ITSELF. BUT AS YOU JUST SUGGESTED,...
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| 02:48:00 |
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HAD LOVED THEM AS CHILDREN STRUCK A NERVE IN YOUR. WOULD YOU PLEASE COMMENT? >> IT DOES. AND STILL I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL REFERENCES TO IT IN SOME...
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| 02:48:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SO COMMON IN ENGLAND AND IN FRANCE WHERE WOMEN OF A CERTAIN CLASS SENT THEIR CHILDREN AWAY TO BE NURSED BY STRANGERS AND BROUGHT BACK WHEN THEY WERE,...
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| 02:51:38 |
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ISSUES. IN WHAT WAYS DO TRADITIONAL AFRICAN OR AFRICANA RIT YOU'LLS SYMBOLS,
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| 02:51:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEIR CONCEPTS, ENHANCE AFFECT YOUR AESTHETIC, YOUR CRAFT. AND I'M THINKING OF THE ANCESTOR REVERENDS YOU WERE SPEAKING WITH A CALLER CRENLY, CONFIRM...
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| 02:53:08 |
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AN ORGANIZATION OF BLACK MEN WHO WERE LIKE AJENGERS, AND THEY
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| 02:53:13 |
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WERE ANONYMOUS, AND THEY RAN AROUND DOING WHAT THE SEVEN DAYS DID. I NEVER
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| 02:53:19 |
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KNEW ANY OF THEM. I NEVER HAD ANY
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| 02:53:21 |
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DOCUMENTATION, BUT IT WAS A VERY POPULAR RUMOR. SO I USED THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF THIS RADICAL AN NARCIC REVOLUTIONARY MAN IN "SONG OF SOLOMON." THE...
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| 02:55:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
JUST KEEP ME GOING TO THE LIBRARY FOREVER. EVERYTHING LEADS TO SOMETHING
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| 02:55:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ELSE. SO I TRY TO CONTROL IT. THE BOOK I'M WRITING NOW TAKES PLACE IN A PLACE I'VE NEVER BEEN TO, IN AN INDUSTRY I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. SO I...
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| 02:56:29 |
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AND LUTCY, AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT YOU AND
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| 02:56:32 |
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YOUR ESSAYS, AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT YOUR
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| 02:56:35 |
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CHARACTERS IN YOUR
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| 02:56:36 |
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NOVELS AND HOW THEY ASSERT AGENCY. MY QUESTION IS THIS. YOU TALKED PREEFLY ABOUT POST MODERN THEORISTS WHO USE JARGONISTIC PHRASES IN THEIR WORK. AND...
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| 02:58:05 |
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NOT JUST HOOKS' LANGUAGE OR MINE OR ANYBODY'S, BUT WHAT THE POWER OF LANGUAGE
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| 02:58:09 |
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S. HOW IT CAN INDEED HURT. OR MISLEAD. AND THE STUDENTS MAY ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR YOUR CLASS. BUT I WOULDN'T PREVENT...
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| 02:58:52 |
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PUBLISHER EXPECTS IT IN 2002. SO MAYBE INDEED I
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| 02:58:56 |
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MIGHT FINISH
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| 02:58:57 |
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IT BY THEN. >>
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| 02:58:58 |
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AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY, A VIEWER
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| 02:59:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WISHED YOU A WHILE BACK. THIS IS WHAT
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| 02:59:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT CONSIDER A MILESTONE BIRTHDAY. >> YOU
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| 02:59:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THINK? 60 IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MILESTONE. ANYTHING AFTER THAT IS CRAZY. YEAH, ISLE BE 70 IN A COUPLE
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| 02:59:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF
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| 02:59:12 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WEEKS. >> AND DOES IT SURPRISE YOU? >> IT ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDS ME. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU JUST END UP A
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| 02:59:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CERTAIN AGE INSIDE. I MEAN, 32, 26, IT'S A DIFFERENT AGE,
|
| 02:59:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS. HOW OLD YOU ARE ON THE INSIDE. AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT IS LIKE, SOMEBODY ELSE IS
|
| 02:59:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DOING. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S
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| 02:59:36 |
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SORT OF A STRANGE, MYTHICAL AGE, WHICH I HAPPEN TO LIKE A LOT, I THINK. SOME OF MY FRIENDS DON'T LIKE IT SO MUCH, BECAUSE THEY ARE BACKING UP A LITTLE...
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| 03:00:17 |
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A FRIEND OF MINE WAS SAYING, YOU
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| 03:00:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
KNOW, ALL THE IRREVOCABLE MISTAKES, WE'VE ALREADY MADE THOSE, ALL THE THINGS WE DIDN'T KNOW AND STILL DON'T KNOW THAT'S ALL THERE. NOW YOU'RE FREE....
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| 03:00:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 03:00:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PLEASURE. ...
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| 03:00:59 |
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| 03:01:17 |
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VIRGINIA.
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