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BELL HOOKS HAS WRITTEN BOOK FOR CHILDREN CALLED "HAPPY TO BE NAPPY." THE RECENTLY PUBLISHED "COMMUNE" IS AN INQUERY INTO LOVE. SHE WILL TAKE YOUR PHONE...
00:00:48
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SILENT. IS THAT TRUE 13 YEARS LATER? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. WE HAVE FOUND OUR VOICE. >> AND HOW HAVE YOU FOUND IT? >> A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLE...
00:01:11
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AFRAID TO SPEAK, BUT IF WE'RE SILENT,
00:01:13
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WE'RE STILL AFRAID, WE
00:01:15
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HAVE TO SPEAK. WE SEE ALL OF THE WRITING COMING OUT OF THE EARLY YEARS OF FEMINISM FROM BLACK WOMEN OFTEN FOCUSED ON THE QUESTION OF HAVING A VOICE....
00:02:13
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WHERE ARE WE MOVING IN THERE. HOW HAS THE TRANSITION
00:02:15
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HAPPENED OR IS THERE A TRANSITION. >> I'M ALWAYS ORGANICALLY MOVING WITH THE CULTURE AS A WHOLE, IN THAT THE THEMES COMING UP IN MY LIFE AMONG
00:02:24
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THE STUDENTS THAT I TEACH, AMONG THE NEIGHBORS THAT I TALK TO, AND PARTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION OF LOVE KEPT COMING UP IN LOTS OF WAYS. I'M SINGLE,...
00:02:39
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EX-BOYFRIEND, THAT SORT OF INSPIRED THE FIRST ALL ABOUT LOVE BOOK, AND, YOU KNOW, THE OBSESSION WITH LOVE THAT I HAVE HAD FOR A LONG TIME. LIKE MANY WRITERS,...
00:03:16
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WOVEN THROUGH YOUR LIFE. I THINK ALL OF US HAVE THOSE
00:03:19
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THREADS THAT ARE WOVEN THROUGH OUR LIVES AND, YOU KNOW, JAMES HILLMAN, THE WONDERFUL UNION PSYCHOANALYST HAS WRITTEN ABOUT LIFE MAPAND HOW THERE'S A DIFFERENT...
00:04:12
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THAT BOOK ABOUT HOW WAITING FOR THE DECISION OF WHETHER YOU WERE GOING TO GET THE TENURE AND THE REACTION THAT YOU HAD AFTER YOU FOUND OUT YOU GOT TENURE,...
00:04:25
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CONNIE, BECAUSE ALL
00:04:26
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OF A SUDDEN, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT. THIS IS ONE OF THE HAZARDS OF HAVING WRITTEN MORE THAN 20 BOOKS IS THAT THINGS COME AND GO IN TERMS OF HOW I FELT ABOUT...
00:04:43
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I HAD BEEN STRUGGLING FOR A LONG TIME WITH THE QUESTION OF HOW FREE CAN WE BE AS WRITERS IN THIS NATION WHEN WE'RE IN INSTITUTIONS. SO THAT'S AN ONGOING...
00:05:35
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THESE DREAMS WERE NOT A RESPONSE TO A FEAR THAT I WOULD NOT
00:05:39
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BE GRANTED
00:05:42
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TENURE. THEY WERE A RESPONSE TO THE REALITY THAT I WOULD BE GRANTED TENURE. YOU GO ON TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT TEACHING WAS ONE OF THE THREE THINGS...
00:06:18
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WORKER OR A TEACHER, BUT THERE WASN'T A LOT IN BETWEEN. WHAT MY SISTER TOLD ME REMINDED ME, THAT'S WHY IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE SISTERS, OF WHICH I HAVE...
00:07:01
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YOU? WHERE DID YOUR MOM GROW UP. >> IN
00:07:04
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HOP KINSVILLE,
00:07:05
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KENTUCKY. >> WHAT WAS IT
00:07:07
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LIKE GROWING UP
00:07:08
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IN HOP KINSVILLE. >> THERE WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT GROWING UP IN HOP KINSVILLE. I CONSIDER MYSELF A SOUTHERNER. PART OF WHAT I LIKED ABOUT GROWING...
00:07:17
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TOWN WHERE YOU WERE KNOWN AND IN OUR TOWN A
00:07:21
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SEGREGATED BLACK WORLD WHERE MANY BLACK PEOPLE WERE ACHIEVERS
00:07:25
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IS THAT THAT WHOLE SENSE OF
00:07:27
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HAVING A SORT OF CENTRAL RELATIONSHIP TO THE
00:07:30
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ENVIRONMENT. I WRITE A LOT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE OF MY GROWING UP. VEGETABLES, MAMA'S COOKING, MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE SO...
00:08:26
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THE SCENT OF HAPPINESS. WITH
00:08:28
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HIM ALL OF THE BROKEN BITS AND PIECES OF MY HEART COME TOGETHER AGAIN. MY VERY, VERY, VERY FAVORITE PERSON FROM GILDHOOD. DADDY GUS, MY MOTHER'S FATHER....
00:08:58
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A LEGACY OF OUTSPOKEN WOMEN
00:09:00
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BECAUSE CERTAINLY MY MOTHER'S MOTHER WAS A VERY OUTSPOKEN WOMAN, AND THAT SENSE OF THAT BEING A NATURAL PART OF WHO I AM AM. >> HOW OLD ARE -- WERE YOU...
00:09:36
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FEMINIST THEORY FROM
00:09:38
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MARGIN TO
00:09:40
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CENTER. YOU KNOW, I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED THAT PICTURE BECAUSE OF THE DEEMY-EYED NATURE OF IT. I WAS
00:09:45
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WRITING THE HARD-HITTING PROVOCATIVE, YOU KNOW, FEMINIST THEORY, BUT FOR ME, IT WAS ALL ABOUT DREAMING. I OFTEN HAVE SEEN MYSELF AS LIKE A SCIENTIST IN...
00:10:50
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A PHOTO OF MY SISTER, ANGELA, WHO IS THE PERSON WHO BRAIDS MY HAIR MOST OFTEN, AND SHE BRAIDED IT FOR THE SHOW TODAY. I SAID TO HER, YOU KNOW, I WISH...
00:11:06
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IS ABOUT LOVING OURSELVES JUST THE WAY WE ARE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I SIGNED THE BOOK HAPPY TO BE NAPPY, MY FIRST PUBLISHED CHILDREN'S BOOK, I ALWAYS FOUND...
00:11:42
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AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE
00:11:44
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CHILDREN HAVING THAT SENSATION THROUGH READING "HAPPY TO BE NAPPY." >> WHEN YOU-DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU WROTE THIS, OR THIS WAS YOUR FIRST PUBLISHED...
00:12:10
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MISS ROSE BELL IS A WONDER PFL COOK. JUST THE OTHER DAY I CALLED
00:12:15
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HER AND
00:12:16
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SHE WAS MAKING THE FRIED PIES THAT SHE USED TO MAKE IN OUR GIRLHOOD
00:12:20
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AND WE WOULD COME HOME FROM SCHOOL AND THERE WOULD BE THESE INCREDIBLE SMELLS COMING FROM THE KITCHEN. MOM WOULD CALL US HER GIRL-PIES. ONE OF THE THINGS...
00:13:14
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INFORMED ME, HOWEVER, THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT "BOOKTV" AT ITS REGULAR TIME
00:13:20
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BECAUSE SHE IS
00:13:21
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A
00:13:22
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CHURCH-GOING
00:13:23
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WOMAN. MOM AND
00:13:24
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DAD, THEY HAVE BEEN MARRIED 50 YEARS.
00:13:26
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AND MOM IS SOMEONE, I THINK, WHO REALLY, YOU KNOW,
00:13:33
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TRIED HARD TO BE THE EMBODIMENT OF THE PERFECT '50s WOMAN. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SHE AND I WERE ALWAYS AT ODDS BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE MORE...
00:14:45
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ONE E-MAIL CAME IN EARLY, AND THIS IS I'M SURE A QUESTION THAT YOU GET EVERY TIME, WHEN AND WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO USE ALL LOWER CASE LETTERS IN YOUR NAME?...
00:15:14
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I WOULDN'T LEAVE YOUR FATHER OUT. >> IN THE LOWER CASE. >> SURE. >> BELL HOOKS, YOU KNOW, IS MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER'S NAME. EARLY ON IN FEMINIST MOVEMENT,
00:15:25
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WE USED TO TALK ABOUT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT OUR NAMES, IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE CHOSE SUED ANYMORES OFTEN. AS
00:15:34
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PEOPLE KNOW, WOMEN CHOSE THEM IN THE 19th
00:15:36
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CENTURY.
00:15:37
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FOR ME, I CHOSE THE LOWER CASE AS
00:15:40
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DE-EMPHASIZING THE CHENS OF WHO IS SPOKING. BUT OFTEN IT HASN'T WORKED THAT WAY, BECAUSE IT HAS MADE PEOPLE OBSESSED WITH THE LOWER CASE. YOU WEREN'T...
00:16:11
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00:16:12
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YOUR BRER. WHEN WAS THIS TAKEN >> DAD IS AN INCREDIBLY HANDSOME MAN. HE IS 80 YEARS OLD. WE HAD A WONDERFUL 80 BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR HIM. MY DAD WAS AND
00:16:23
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IS A READER AND HE IS THE PERSON
00:16:25
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THAT I WRITE ABOUT HAVING SO MUCH
00:16:27
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INSPIRATION BOTH MOM AND DAD WERE READERS. BUT MY DAD HAD HIS SHELF OF BOOKS. YOU KNOW, HE WAS A BOXING FAN AND
00:16:34
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A BOXER, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT MY FATHER CAME UP IN THAT GENERATION OF WORKING BLACK MEN WHO WERE THINKERS WHO FELT THAT...
00:17:13
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HAS BECOME MORE MELLOW AND LOVING. WHEN WE HAVE THE REVOLUTION OF FECHL
00:17:20
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NYMPH THAT AFFECTS MEN, MEN WILL NOT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE GETTING CLOSE TO DEATH TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THEIR FEELING SIDES AND TO BE MORE EMOTIONALLY...
00:17:51
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I'M THE PROUD FATHER OF THREE CHILDREN, ONE SON, JIMMY AND TWO
00:17:54
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DAUGHTERS, JOSLYNN AND
00:17:57
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JASMINE.
00:17:58
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I'M CURIOUS HOW I CAN INFUSE THEM WITH STRONG FEMINIST THEORY THAT I CAN GET OUT OF THEIR WAY AS A FATHER AND MAKE THEM TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHAT STRONG...
00:18:32
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AS A SEXIST MAN BUT JUST IN HIS LOVE OF HIMSELF AND HIS RESPECT FOR THE WOMEN AROUND HIM, NOT DOMINATING, NON-VIOLENT MUTUALLY ENGAGING IN PARTNERSHIP...
00:19:22
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HOOKS
00:19:24
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FILL LIST JASMINE GAVE ME HER
00:19:27
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NAME. YOU KNOW, WE DO THE
00:19:28
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WORK OF TEN WOMEN OR MEN AT ONE TIME
00:19:30
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WE
00:19:32
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CAN'T REACH EVERYBODY. I SEE HER ON TELEVISION AND SHE'S SO BEAUTIFULFUL AND WOND EVERYFUL AND WE HAVE TO GIVE ANOTHER ONE TO HONOR HER. I TELL HER THAT,...
00:20:10
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I THINK ALL WRITERS FEEL GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE READERS WHO ARE MOVED BY OUR WORK, AND I DO THAT THE SAME WAY I'M TELLING THE AUDIENCES. I GO TO THE...
00:20:41
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IN ANY EVENT AFTER READING YOUR BOOK, "BLACK WOMEN AND SELF-RECOVERY" I HAVE SINCE TAKEN WITH ME THE NOTION THAT, OF COURSE,
00:20:51
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AS SOON
00:20:52
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AS AND AS YOU ATTEST TO IN YOUR BOOK,
00:20:55
Caller, -
BLACK FEMALES HAVE A PECULIAR STRUGGLE IN TERMS OF THE ACADEMY. MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN NO SUPPORT FROM GRADUATE SCHOOL. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ...
00:21:51
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TO LOOK IN UNEXPECTED PLACES. OFTEN I HAVE BEEN HELPED OR GUIDED BY SOMEONE THAT IF I HAD BEEN FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, SET NOTIONS OF WHO COULD BE A PERSON...
00:23:32
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GOOD AND BAD, INFERIOR AND SUPERIOR. THAT'S THE ROOT OF DOMINATION.
00:23:37
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FOR ME IT LED ME FIRST TO ISLAMIC, THE SUPI POETS. I STARTED AS A WRITER AND POET, AND TO BUDDHISM AS I MET POET GARY SNYDER WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD...
00:24:41
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BASIC SELF-ESTEEM. I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE
00:24:46
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ONGOING STRUGGLES COLLECTIVELY AFRICAN-AMERICANS CONFRONT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF CULTURAL WHITE SUPREMACY. HOW CAN WE BUILD A HEALTHY SELF-ESTEEM...
00:25:25
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YOUNG WHITE WOMAN PHOTOGRAPHER, CONSTANCE LARRABY.
00:25:31
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SHE DIED SHORTLY BEFORE THE BOOK CAME OUT. I WAS SAD THAT SHE DEPARTMENT GET TO SEE THE PHOTO. HER WORK IS AT THE SMITHSONIAN. SHE CAME HER FROM SOUTH...
00:26:49
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EASIER FOR ME GROWING UP WITH THAT RURAL BACKGROUND.
00:26:56
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WHAT SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU INSPIRED YOU OR JUST GAVE YOU THAT INSPIRATION TO MAKE IT OUT, IN A WAY? >> WELL, I HAVE TO GO BACK AGAIN TO THE CHURCH. I...
00:27:21
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IN HOP KINSVILLE, KENTUCKY, AND WE OFTEN GREW UP HEARING THAT HE WAS A DISTANT COUSIN. I THINK FOR MANY KENTUCKIANS, THE CHURCH, BLACK KENTUCKIANS PARTICULARLY,...
00:28:44
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HAVE HELPED
00:28:46
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ME SHIELD MYSELF FROM THE WAY THAT WHITE SUPREMACY TELLS OUR STORY OR THEIR DISTORTED VERSION OF IT. I WONDER ABOUT HOW WE AS BLACK PEOPLE AND BASICALLY...
00:29:38
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ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA. EARLIER TODAY I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT C-SPAN AND NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M ON IT, BUT BECAUSE...
00:31:12
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AND IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS BECAUSE IT'S THE JUXTAPOSITION BECAUSE MEDIA NOT ONLY PORTRAYS CULTURE BUT MAKES CULTURE. >> WHO IS ON THE COVER. >>...
00:31:45
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I WANT
00:31:46
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TO TELL YOU, YOU HAVE SUCH JOY ON YOUR FACE. I DON'T HAVE THAT JOY. AND HERE IS A SHORT POEM THAT I WANT TO DEDICATE YOU TO. IT'S VERY SHORT. BLACK WOMAN....
00:32:01
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RIGHT NOW,
00:32:02
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BLACK WOMAN, YOU ARE WORTHY OF YOUR EARTHLY PRESENCE. IN THE BEGINNING OF GOD'S EARTHLY PARADISE, THE SNAKE OF SATAN DECEIVED THE BLACK MOTHER OF ALL...
00:33:22
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LOOK SO HARSH. YET, WHEN I HAVE THEM GO OUT AND DO THEIR WORK ABOUT FINDING OUT THE STATISTICS ABOUT OUR HEALTH, HEART DISEASE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE MORE...
00:34:47
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WOMEN ENMASS HAVEN'T BEEN THAT ENGAGED WITH FEMINISM EITHER, BUT CERTAINLY THERE HAVE BEEN MORE WHITE WOMEN INVOLVED IN THE MOVEMENT, BUT THERE ARE...
00:34:57
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OUR NATION. BLACK WOMEN HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO CRITIQUE SEXISM AND GAUGE THE MOVEMENT THAT I WOULD CHANGE IT, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO BE IN HARMONY AND...
00:36:12
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00:36:13
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ALL LIKE AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO STOP SPENDING THE MILLIONS THAT WE SPEND ON HAIR CARE PRODUCTS
00:36:18
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TO STRAYSEN OUR HAIR AND SPEND IT ON THINK
00:36:21
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TANKS AND PUBLIC EDUCATION AND READING AND LITERACY, BUT WE CAN'T BEGIN TO DO THAT UNTIL WE START LOVING OURSELVES JUST THE WAY WE ARE. THERE'S A LINE...
00:36:31
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NAPPY" WHERE IT SAYS THAT IT'S NICE WHEN OUR SMELLS CLEAN AND SWEET, IT'S SHOST LIKE COTTON, FLOWER PETAL BILLOWY SOFT. LITTLE BLACK GIRLS COME UP TO...
00:37:52
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SOUL" BLACK PEOPLE AND SELF-ESTEEM, I TALK ABOUT THE INTENSE BODY
00:37:57
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HATRED THAT CONTINUES TO BE A PART OF BLACK PEOPLE'S REALITY IN THE UNITED STATES. >> DO YOU THINK IT'S ONLY BLACK PEOPLE? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, BUT I THINK...
00:38:21
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WRITERS THAT HAVE WRITTEN, ORLANDO
00:38:24
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PATTERSON'S WORK, THERE IS A SPECIAL HATRED THAT WHITE SUPREMACY RESERVES FOR BLACK PEOPLE. IT COMES OUT IN WHAT WE EXPECT AND HOW WE VIEW BLACK PEOPLE,...
00:40:24
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TESTING AND OUR ABILITY TO TOUCH ON CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND
00:40:26
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RESPECT THAT IN THE CLASSROOM. >> I THINK THAT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE PRAISE TO ALL OF THE TEACHERS IN FLINT, MICHIGAN, AND IN FACT COMING THERE...
00:40:48
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GWENDA WHAT IS ONE OF MY SUPPORTERS. FOR ME, THE ISSUE OF EDUCATION STARTS, I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME IN AND CHALLENGE STANDARDIZED TESTING. FIRST AND...
00:41:48
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I LOVE THAT SENSE OF EDUCATION MOVING BEYOND THE CLASSROOM,
00:41:51
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MOVING FROM, YOU KNOW, UPTOWN TO DOWNTOWN. I'M A FAN OF LANGSTON HUGHES. MY SENSE OF MOVING FROM THE WEST VILLAGE TO HARLEM AND I HEAR HIS POEMS IN MY...
00:42:56
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FEEL LIKE THAT I'M IN THE MIDST OF PSYCHOHISTORY OF WONDERFUL WRITERS IN THE WEST VILLAGE. I HAVE SAT THERE WITH AMENA
00:43:05
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AND MARY BARACCA AND TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY. IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE IN THE CITY. I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE SAY, HOW CAN YOU BE WITHOUT NATURE. MY STREET...
00:43:40
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BUDDHIST ALTAR WITHOR
00:43:44
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KIDS. I'M A BIGGOR KID FAN. THEY'RE A HARDY AND BEAUTIFUL PLANT. I THINK
00:43:50
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ABOUT THEM WHEN I THINK
00:43:51
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ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE, THE BEAUTY OF SOMETHING THAT ENDURES AND SUSTAINS AND RERESURRECTS ITSELF. >> SO, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WRITE IN THE PLACE...
00:44:22
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I JUST SORT OF SIT THERE. I HAND WRITE A LOT. YOU KNOW,
00:44:26
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WHEN I KNEW THAT C-SPAN WAS COMING AND GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT MY WRITING WORLD. I SAID, THERE WOULDN'T BE A HUGE COMPUTER. I HANDWRITING AND I USE A...
00:45:01
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OR, YOU KNOW, THAT SENSE
00:45:03
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OF CONTEMPLATION BECAUSE I FEEL FIRST AND FOREMOST IN MY LIFE, I'M A CON TEMP LA TIFF.
00:45:12
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WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME TO DEFINE
00:45:15
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MYSELF, I'M A SEEKER ON THE PATH. THAT SENSE OF SPIRITUAL JOURNEY IS THE CORE OF MY BEING. THAT ENCLOSED SPACE OF CONTEMPLATION OF SILENCE HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY...
00:45:49
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MEMORY AND THE PAINTINGS THAT I DID FOR A SHOW
00:45:53
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IN SAN FRANCISCO, BUT THAT LITTLE CHAIR IS QUITE COMFORTABLE. I HAVE WRITTEN ALL OF THESE MANY MANY BOOKS SITTING IN THAT CHAIR. BUT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS...
00:46:35
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HAVE A PAINTING IN HERE THAT IS IN HONOR OF THE FOUR LITTLE GIRLS WHO WERE KILLED IN BIRMINGHAM, CYNTHIA,
00:46:43
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DENISE,
00:46:44
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00:46:46
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00:46:47
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ADDIE, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT SO OFTEN PEOPLE FORGET THOSE
00:46:50
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LITTLE GIRLS, AND THEY FORGET THEIR MARTYRDOM. SO, I WANTED TO HAVE A PIECE OF ART THAT WOULD SHOW THEIR IMAGES. DENISE, CAROL, ADDIE AND SINT YARX...
00:50:00
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SURVIVE COLLEGE IN OPPRESSIVE NEW HAVEN, CONNECTICUT.
00:50:05
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I FELT YOUR WORDS WHEN YOU SMOKE OF YOUR MOTHER IN THAT BOOK AND "TEACHING TO TRANSGRESS" IS SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY EXPLORING AND GOING BACK TO RIGHT...
00:51:08
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SATISFIED CERTAIN NEEDS. THREE THINGS THAT I WOULD INSTILL. I WOULD SAY FIRST OF ALL, POSITIVE THINKING. THE BELIEF THAT EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. AND...
00:51:57
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WITH A RED BACKGROUND. >> I HAVE BEEN TELLING CONNIE THAT I'M ALWAYS INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN OF MY COVERS. YOU KNOW, I THINK TO HAVE THIS LITTLE BLACK...
00:52:07
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WHEN TONY MORRISON WROTE, "THE BLUEST EYE" I SHOULD TELL AUDIENCES THAT I WHOT MY P.H.D. DISSERTATION ON TONI
00:52:18
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MORRISON.
00:52:20
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SHE LOOKED AROUND HER AND THERE WEREN'T BOOKS WITH LITTLE BLACK GIRLS AT THE CENTER WHEN SHE WROTE "THE BLUEST EYE." WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE GREATEST...
00:55:23
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WITHOUT
00:55:25
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SORT OF AN INSTITUTION INTO DIFFERENT CULTURAL UNDERSTANDINGS OF WHAT IT IS TO BE A WOMAN? >> WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF WE WANT TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY,...
00:55:55
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AS OPPOSED TO BRINGING OUR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE LIVES OF PEOPLE TO THOSE COUNTRIES. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE WORK OF THELIA EISENSTEIN WHO HAS WRITTEN ABOUT...
00:58:02
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BLACK COMMUNITY AND IT SEEMS TO FALL ON DEAF EARS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE SAME ISSUES? HOW I DO GET THEM TO HEAR AND FEEL ME? >> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT...
00:58:31
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PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. IF WE WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE CHANGE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. NOT FEEL THAT WE CAN CHANGE SOMEONE...
00:59:52
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SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO INTRODUCE
00:59:54
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THIS TOPIC.
00:59:55
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I'M A
00:59:56
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30-YEAR-OLD MOTHER. AT THE AGE OF 28 I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER. I WENT THROUGH THE CHEMO AND EVERYTHING AND I LOST MY SHOULDER-LENGTH HAIR. I...
01:00:32
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ONES WITH THE
01:00:33
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LONG SILKY. SHE HAD MY ORIGINAL HAIR, VERY THICK, HARD TO MANAGE, HARD TO CONTROL. NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT, LOSING MY HAIR WAS THE BEST THING FOR ME BECAUSE...
01:01:37
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NATURAL. WE HAVE TO TALK
01:01:38
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DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE HOURS IT MAY TAKE TO COME OUT HAIR THAT IS NAPPY, BUT THOSE HOURS CAN BE SEEN AS JOYOUS. THEY CAN BE SEEN AS A KIND OF MEDICATION....
01:02:33
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MARKISM, BUT WHAT
01:02:34
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IS THE RELEVANCE OF THE MARKISM IN THE LIGHT OF THE ENRON SCANDALS AND THE ALIENATION OF WHAT PEOPLE FEEL GOING THROUGH THE WORK DAY BEING SEPARATED FROM...
01:03:12
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I'M WRITING BOOKS. THERE ARE TIMES THAT I HAVE TAKEN A BREAK FROM MAGAZINES, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE BEYOND THAT. >> HIS QUESTION ABOUT MARKISM....
01:03:43
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STAND
01:03:44
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CLASS MATTERS I THINK AFFECT US TODAY AND THE PALT YARKY. CHRISTIANITY IS PATRIARCHAL. MARXISM. WE ARE ALL SMART ENOUGH AS WOMEN AND MEN TO BE ABLE TO...
01:04:37
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YOU'RE ON THE AIR, SIR. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION. >> Caller: HELLO, HOW ARE YOU DOING, MISS HOOK. MY NAME IS AT KIN MOSES, I'M A STUDENT AT NYU. I...
01:04:56
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THE BLACK CULTURE, AND WE
01:04:58
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SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT
01:05:01
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FEMALE MOVES AND HIP-HOP AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK ABOUT THAT LIKE LIL KIM AND QUEEN LATIFAH, HAVING A RUGGED, RAW, GHETTO A LITTLE BIT,...
01:05:51
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LITTLE KIM. HER RESPONSES TO MY QUESTIONS ABOUT LOVE INSPIRED ME TO WRITE ALL ABOUT LOVE. WHAT I SEE IS SHE TOLD ME YEARS AGO THAT SHE WOULDN'T BE IN...
01:07:25
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OR
01:07:26
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RACISM. SEE THIS MOVIE, BUT REMEMBER THESE ARE NOT REAL BLACK MEN THAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU ARE SEEING A RACIST WHITE PERSON'S IDEA OF BLACK MEN. I...
01:08:16
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IT'S MY VERSION OF MYSELF AS THE
01:08:18
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THINKER. AS AUDIENCES CAN SEE, I'M FREQUENTLY PUTTING MY HAND IN THAT POSITION HERE. >> YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED A LOT THEN. >> HOW OLD WERE YOU THEN? >> MY...
01:08:35
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IT IS OF MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE. MY MOTHER'S MOTHER'S HOUSE. I HAD GOTTEN A GRANT TO DO THIS PROJECT ABOUT HER HOUSE. NOW, THE IMAGE IN MY -- THE
01:08:46
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ACTUAL
01:08:47
Unidentified Speaker, -
IMAGE HAS WRITING AT THE END
01:08:49
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF IT, IT SAYS, MY HEART IS BURNING IN THIS HOUSE
01:08:52
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WHERE LOVE WAS, WHERE
01:08:54
Unidentified Speaker, -
I DREAMED IN THE DARK MY DEEPEST DREAMS BECAUSE SHORTLY OF -- BEFORE I DID THIS ARTWORK, THE HOUSE CAUGHT ON FIRE. AND MY MOTHER HAD, BECAUSE IT'S A...
01:09:58
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I FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE DEAD MENTOR PEOPLE. THOMAS MERTON,
01:10:02
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SAINT TERESA OF AVILA. THE WRITERS THAT GUIDE MY VISION AND THAT INFORMED "WOUNDS OF PASSION." >> YOU SAID THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHER DIDN'T LIKE THIS? >>...
01:10:31
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AHEAD. >> Caller: YES. HOW ARE YOU DOING, MISS HOOKS.
01:10:34
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I'M A RETURNING COLLEGE STUDENT IN MY 40s HERE IN RICHMOND, STUDYING FILM WITH AN ASPIRATION TO CONTINUE A FILM PRODUCER AND PERHAPS CHANGE SOME OF THE
01:10:46
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IMAGES.
01:10:48
Caller, -
FOR SO MANY
01:10:50
Unidentified Speaker, -
YEARS I HAVE
01:10:51
Caller, -
HEARD ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS, MANY OF WHICH I FEEL ARE LEGITIMATE ABOUT OUR PORTRAYAL IN FILM. MY QUESTION IS DON'T WE HAVE AS BLACK MEN AND WOMEN MORE...
01:13:06
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TIME.
01:13:08
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHENEVER PEOPLE ARE FEELING OPPRESSED OR IMPOSED UPON, THEY WANT TO HUNKER DOWN WITH THEIR OWN KIND. I HEAR THAT SOME FROM MY WHITE MALE STUDENTS WHO...
01:15:30
Unidentified Speaker, -
CALLER WAS TALKING ABOUT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PROPOSED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF "YEARNING" IS RATHER THAN TAKING LOOKS AT WHAT DIVIDES US AS PEOPLE,...
01:15:42
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BRINGS US TOGETHER. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SUGGESTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS BOOK IS THAT WE SHARE A YEARNING IN COMMON. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE EVERYONE...
01:16:41
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I DO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE FIRST ONE IS ONE THAT POPPED OUT AND I HEARD ANOTHER CALLER TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE
01:16:50
Caller, -
VICTIM, THE WOMAN THAT HAD CANCER AND LOST HER BRAIDS. I HAVE VIEWED THE BRAIDS AS A SYMBOL OF STRENGTH AND PROGRESSION. I'M NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN. I'M...
01:17:39
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BE IN YOUR NATURAL HAIR WITH YOUR BRAIDS. I THINK THAT WHEN I TALK ABOUT BRAIDS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GOING OUT AND SPENDING THEIR LAST MONEY....
01:19:59
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IT AS
01:20:01
Caller, -
THE ANSWER WHETHER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PATRIARCHY OR RACE OR CLASS IS MUTUAL PARTNERSHIP. I DON'T BELIEVE -- I'M NOT ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVES...
01:20:15
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THEIR THINKING AS MEN. MANY MATE AFTERNOONAL SOCIETIES WERE BASED ON THE SAME NOTIONS OF DOMINATION AS PATRIARCHY, THEY WERE JUST INVERTED. WHEN WOMEN...
01:21:36
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YOU NAMED EXACTLY WHAT I TELL
01:21:39
Caller, -
WOULD-BE WRITERS AND WRITERS IN DISTRESS, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BLOCKED BY THEIR INABILITY TO JUST DO THE WRITING WITHOUT JUDGMENT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF...
01:21:55
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ENORMOUSLY GIFTED, EVEN THOUGH HE CAN PLAY SO WELL, HE HAS TO PRACTICE. THE SAME IS TRUE OF WRITING. WRITING IS A CRAFT AND A DISCIPLINE AND I WRITE,...
01:23:02
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YOU KNOW OF THE ECSTASY OF WRITING, NOT AT ALL. I THINK OF "REMEMBERED RAPTURE" CAME CLOSE IN VOICING SOME OF THAT SENSE OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO JUST...
01:23:23
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LOVE." >> YEAH, I WILL. >> SOMEHOW I TELL ME, A LOT OF TIMES THINGS COME TO ME IN MY SLEEP, AND I WAKE UP AND I GO TO THE DESK AND "HOMEMADE LOVE" IS...
01:23:45
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MAMA CALLS ME GIRL-PIE, HER SWEET,
01:23:49
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SWEET DADDY'S HONEY BUN, CHOCOLATE DEW-DROP HOMEMADE LOVE. IT JUST SORT OF CAME.
01:23:59
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT'S WHEN I WORKED WITH
01:24:01
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THE DIVINE. HE SAID, THE ILLUSTRATOR, WHAT'S A CHOCOLATE DEW-DROP. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF THE IMAGINATION. THE THINKER AND WRITER AND TALKING...
01:25:39
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IMMEDIATELY REACT WITH FEAR. AND ANIMALS ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN. IF YOU ARE THE PARENT OR THE
01:25:44
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OWNER OF THE DOG AND YOU ARE SHOWING FEAR, THE DOG MAY RESPOND HOSTILELY. I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED FOR MANY BLACK PEOPLE ENCOUNTERING WHILE PEOPLE AND...
01:27:12
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01:27:15
Caller, -
NOW AND I LIKE IT CHALLENGES EVERYDAY THINKING IN SOCIETY. BLESS YOUR HEART IN CONTINUING TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU WERE MEANT TO DO. >> WELL, I THINK IT'S...
01:27:45
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TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TEACH ACROSS BOUNDARIES, AND IT'S AMAZING TO THINK ABOUT, FOR ME AS A WRITER, I FEEL AN INTELLECTUAL WHO THOUGHT...
01:28:41
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COMMUNITY. AND WHEN I READ,
01:28:42
Caller, -
IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO READ "TREECHG TO TRANSGRESS" BECAUSE IT FELT LIKE YOU APPLY THOSE SAME METHODS OF PARTICIPATION IN THE CLASSROOM WHERE PEOPLE...
01:29:42
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COMMUNITY TOGETHER, YOU LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE, YOU LEARN HOW TO DIALOG ACROSS DIFFERENCES, YOU LEARN HOW TO PROBLEM-SOLVE TOGETHER, SO A LOT OF THOSE...
01:31:56
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LISTEN THROUGH YOUR EARPIECE. >> Caller: OKAY. I WAS JUST CALLING TO TELL
01:31:59
Caller, -
YOU THAT WE'RE PROUD OF YOU IN
01:32:02
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HOPKINSVILLE, KENTUCKY. I AM A FRIEND OF YOUR FAMILY. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR SURROUNDINGS AS FAR AS YOUR
01:32:10
Caller, -
CHURCH AND HOW YOU GREW UP. AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU
01:32:13
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KNOW THAT WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF YOU HERE. >> WELL, I'LL BE IN
01:32:17
Caller, -
HOPKINSVILLE SOON, WE'RE ALL COMING HOME TO SEE MOM FOR MOTHERS DAY. AND HOPKINSVILLE, IT WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT SPECIAL PLACE FOR ME AS THAT PLACE WHERE...
01:32:36
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THE HAROLD WASHINGTON LIBRARY IN CHICAGO. BUT I GO EVERYWHERE, EVERY TIME I'M ON TOUR, TO PUBLIC LIBRARIES BECAUSE THEY WERE THE REAL CENTER OF MY GROWTH...
01:33:32
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FRIEND TRIED TO INTRODUCE ME TO YOUR WORK SOMETIME BACK BUT I GOT TURNED OFF TO FEMINISM IN COLLEGE BECAUSE MOST OF THE FEMINIST I MET AND READ SEEM...
01:34:06
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JUST A MILITANT, RADICAL FEMINIST THINKER AND SO OFTEN WHEN PEOPLE MEET ME AND THEY SEE THIS LOVING SPIRIT BECAUSE I THINK VISIONARY FEMINISM IS ALWAYS...
01:35:03
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MEDIA NEVER LEFT ME. I HAVE SINCE READ THREE OF YOUR URBAN FEEL THAT TERMS LIKE WHITE SPREM I CYST PARTICIPATE TREE ARY TEND TO TURN A LOT OF WHITE...
01:35:50
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RECOVERY MOVEMENTS. I'M REALLY A POSITIVE PERSON FOR ALL THE CRITIQUES I WOULD BRING TO BEAR ON AA OR NA, I'M POSITIVE ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF...
01:37:08
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OF FRAN. WE'RE WORKING WITH EMORY
01:37:11
Caller, -
UNIVERSITY TO DO A NEW PROJECT, SHOWCASING THE BEAUTY IN WOMEN. WE'RE CALLING IT "SISTER FLOWERS" AND CONNECTING THE BEAUTY AND ALL WOMEN IN ALL COUNTRY...
01:37:56
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THE LAST IN THE LOVE TRILOGY BECAUSE IT'S CALLED "COMMUNION, THE FEMALE SEARCH FOR LOVE," AND REALLY IT'S A RESPONSE TO AS ALL THE LOVE BOOKS WERE TO...
01:39:41
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MAGICAL SERENDIPITY. WHEN I WENT INTO A STORE, I WRITE ABOUT FASHION AND I'M A REAL FASHION-OBSESSED GIRL. AND I
01:39:50
Unidentified Speaker, -
WENT TO ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOUTIQUES IN SOHO AND THEY HAD ONE OF MARSHA'S PHOTOGRAPHS ON THE WALL. AND I THOUGHT, WOW, THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL DO YOU KNOW...
01:41:38
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WOULD TALK ABOUT WHETHER YOU SEE SOME OF THE RACISM WITHIN THE FEMINIST
01:41:44
Caller, -
MOVEMENT OF THE '70S AND '80s HEALING AND INCLUDING AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN, WHERE YOU SEE A FUTURE OF THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT IN ANY WAY. >> FIRST OF ALL...
01:42:16
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BETWEEN 10 WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE RACIST AND WON'T CHANGE AND ONE WHITE PERSON WHO IS DIVESTING OF THEIR RACISM, I KNOW WHO I'M GOING TO CHOOSE. AND RATHER...
01:46:09
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WRITING. BECAUSE THIS LITTLE BOOK KIND OF RIFTS AROUND I BE BOY LAUGHING, I BE BOY
01:46:16
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CRYING, AND IT TRIES TO CREATE A UNIVERSE FOR A BOY WHERE THERE IS A RANGE OF EMOTIONALITY BECAUSE WE OFTEN DON'T ALLOW BOYS THAT RANGE OF EMOTIONALITY....
01:46:48
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EARLIER. >> I THINK
01:46:49
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHENEVER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDICTION, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
01:46:52
Unidentified Speaker, -
DRUG ADDICTION, SEX ADDICTION,
01:46:54
Caller, -
SHOPPING ADDICTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAWS OF THE INABILITY TO FEEL. BECAUSE WE'RE USUALLY, WHEN WE'RE ADDICTED TO ANYTHING, WE'RE USUALLY TRYING...
01:47:09
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ROCK MY SOUL, BLACK PEOPLE AND SELF-ESTEEM, "BECAUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING TO CLEAN UP DRUGS ALL AROUND OUR NATION, THE FACT...
01:48:51
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INHERITED THE PHOTOGRAPH. >> THIS ONE HERE. >> WHICH ARE OF LITTLE GIRLS IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE AND TOOK THAT PHOTOGRAPH AND CREATED THIS PAINTING. AND...
01:49:02
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IT'S A CONTEMPORARY OF ROMEER BEARDDON, SHE WAS ONE OF THE ONLY WOMEN IN THE GROUP CALLED SPIRAL. SHE'S A FASTBALLS ARTIST WHO
01:49:13
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LIVES IN NEW YORK CITY. AND IT WAS
01:49:15
Unidentified Speaker, -
MY FIRST SENSE OF -- WHEN I MET HER I WAS SO CONCERNED THAT MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT HER WORK, AND IT WAS MY FIRST ATTEMPT TO USE A BOOK COVER TO...
01:50:09
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HAN, VIETNAMESE PEOPLE MAINLY BUT HE ALLOWED ME TO COME. I WAS HAVING AN AUDIENCE WITH
01:50:15
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIM, FOR SOME REASON IN MY LIFE IN THE WEEKS BEFORE I HAD BEEN EXPERIENCING LOTS OF RACIAL INJUSTICE, I WAS ANGRY AT MY EX-BOYFRIEND AND I WENT INTO...
01:51:30
Unidentified Speaker, -
BEEN BECAUSE
01:51:31
Caller, -
OF THE WAY I WAS TREATED YOUNGER IN MY 20s
01:51:33
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND WORK AND ALL THAT.
01:51:35
Caller, -
BUT I HAVE GOTTEN RID OF ALL THE MEDICATIONS AND ALL THE DOCTORS AND JUST DETERMINED THAT THERE'S NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO HEAL MYSELF. AND I WANT TO THANK...
01:52:07
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IT'S A HIGH CALLING TO BE ABLE TO WRITE BOOKS IN LANGUAGE THAT HAS COMPLICATED IDEAS BUT THAT ARE IN LANGUAGE THAT EVERYBODY CAN READ AND DRAW MORE PEOPLE...
01:52:46
Unidentified Speaker, -
01:52:47
Caller, -
CONFEMLATIVES, THEY'RE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A VARIETY
01:52:50
Caller, -
OF THINGS IN LIFE BOTH SPIRITUAL AND POLITICAL. IF YOU READ MY LOVE BOOKS YOU'LL SEE ME QUOTING MARTIN ON LOVE
01:52:57
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND CHALLENGE AROUND DIVERSITY. MARTIN'S CONTACTS WITH CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS, IF PEOPLE READ WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT RACE, AND OF COURSE I HAVE TO...
01:54:54
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DIVINELY BLESSED TO BE AN INTELLECTUAL TO TALK WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE. BECAUSE I FEEL I TRY TO EMBODY THAT
01:55:03
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SPIRIT OF LOVING KINDNESS, OF ONENESS THAT I THINK IS NEEDED TO CREATE BELOVED COMMUNITY. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT ONE CAN BE...
01:56:08
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BE ABLE TO BUILD OR CREATE WOULD BE CHILDREN.
01:56:11
Caller, -
AND I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS, FIVE AND SIX, AND I'M AROUND A LOT OF WOMEN, MOTHERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I COME FROM AN IRISH IMMIGRANT MOTHER WHO WAS...
01:57:25
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EMOTIONAL FLAME, THEN THAT FLAME IS ENDANGERED. BUT IT'S NOT ENDANGERED BECAUSE OF FEM I NEXT, IT'S ENDANGERED BECAUSE PATRIARCH CAL CULTURE CONTINUES...
01:59:41
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS A -- IN MY LATE TEENS AND EARLY 20s, IN FACT I WAS A
01:59:46
Unidentified Speaker, -
MILITANT MALCOLM X KIND OF
01:59:48
Unidentified Speaker, -
GIRL. AND IT'S REALLY BEEN IN THE
01:59:50
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORE RECENT YEARS OLD OF MY LIFE WHERE I'VE TRULY GONE BACK AND STUDIED THE LATER WRITINGS OF DR. KING IN A TESTAMENT OF HOPE YOU CAN READ SOME OF THOSE...
02:01:03
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OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FEMINIST -- IN MY PRACTICUM IS HOW DO WE GET STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY FEMALE STUDENTS, TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE WITH THE TOPIC...
02:01:13
Caller, -
FEMINISM AS
02:01:14
Unidentified Speaker, -
SOMETHING
02:01:15
Caller, -
THAT THEY CAN ACCEPT FOR THEMSELVES, REFUSE STUDENTS WHO ARE ALWAYS SAYING THINGS LIKE I'M NOT A FEMINIST BUT, AND THEN THEY GO ON SAY SOMETHING LIKE...
02:02:08
Unidentified Speaker, -
OPPRESSION, NOW, NOTICE THAT THAT DEFINITION WHICH I FIRST CAME UP WITH IN FEMINIST THEORY, DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MEN, IT DOESN'T PIT MEN AGAINST...
02:04:21
Unidentified Speaker, -
I LOVE READING MY BIBLE AND EVERY DAY I PRAY AND I SAY THE 23rd PSALM AND THEN I DO MY BUDDHIST PRACTICE, YOU KNOW, I THINK
02:04:29
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT'S A KIND OF MOVEMENT AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF RELIGION IN THAT SORT OF DOGMATIC -- DOGMATIC SENSE, THE IDEA OF SPIRITUAL PRACTICE. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE...
02:05:52
Unidentified Speaker, -
POPULAR EDUCATION
02:05:53
Caller, -
WITH YOUR -- WITH THE CONCEPT OF A LOVE EVOLUTION AND HOW WE COULD PROMOTE TRANSNATIONAL DIALOG, MORE TOWARDS THE IDEA OF WHAT MALCOLM X WAS TRYING TO...
02:06:27
Unidentified Speaker, -
ASSOCIATED WHITE SUPREMACY WITH WHITE PEOPLE IN SOME KIND OF BLANKET SENSE. SO I THINK THAT PART, AGAIN, WHEN WE WANT TO BRING THAT TEACHING OF COMMUNITY...
02:08:09
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL
02:08:10
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAPPEN. AND I'M MYSELF CONTINUALLY
02:08:13
Unidentified Speaker, -
STUDYING SPANISH SO THAT I CAN SPEAK. >> >>
02:08:16
Unidentified Speaker, -
DAVIS, CALIFORNIA YOU'RE NEXT GO AHEAD. >> Caller: I'M A DOCTORAL STUDENT AT UC DAVIS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK WHICH HAS COMMENTS SO MUCH...
02:08:35
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WOOD, AND SHEILA WHO
02:08:37
Unidentified Speaker, -
ALSO BLICIALSES IN SOUTH END PRESS. IF YOU'RE
02:08:40
Caller, -
READING THESE PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ECO FEMINIST THEORY ABOUT THE TERM AND CONNECTION TO MAIN TREAM FEMINIST THEORY. >> WE HAVE TO -- THAT...
02:09:11
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, COMING OFTEN FROM VERY PRIVILEGED BACKGROUNDS WHERE THEY NEVER SEEM TO CONSIDER RACE OR ISSUES OF CLASS PRIVILEGE. BUT THAT DOESN'T...
02:11:47
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WERE SO STUNNED AND THEY SAID TO ME OH,
02:11:49
Unidentified Speaker, -
BUT THERE'S THIS WONDERFUL,
02:11:53
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU KNOW, FANCY STORE THAT YOU COULD GO TO AND I HAD MY FLING WITH THE FANCY
02:11:59
Unidentified Speaker, -
STORES, I WAS A LOVER OF BARNEY'S IN NEW YORK, I THOUGHT WAIT A MINUTE THERE'S SOMETHING MORE VITAL FOR THE PLANET THAT I COULD BE DOING WITH MY MONEY....
02:13:30
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BETWEEN THE TWO. I WAS
02:13:32
Caller, -
RUNNING A WOMEN'S RESOURCE CENTER AT
02:13:36
Unidentified Speaker, -
TEXAS WOMEN'S
02:13:37
Caller, -
UNIVERSITY, AND THIS BEAUTIFUL YOUNG BLACK WOMAN CAME IN. AND WE DID SORT OF A DANCE THERE FOR A WHILE, NOT KNOWING -- BOTH OF US ADMIRED EACH OTHER...
02:15:09
Unidentified Speaker, -
WOMAN BUT SHE NEVER NOTICED THAT EVERYWHERE THEY WENT OUT THEY WENT OUT TO PLACES THAT WERE WHITE. FINALLY THE BLACK WOMAN SAID TO HER CAN WE EVER GO...
02:17:19
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WHENEVER YOU'RE TRULY LOVING, YOU KNOW, TRUE LOVE REALLY DOESN'T MAKE THESE PRESCRIPTIONS, I'M ONLY GOING TO LOVE YOU IF YOU LOOK LIKE ME, DOESN'T MEAN...
02:17:32
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SOMEONE THAT'S MY HEIGHT, MY RACE, WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HOLD A PREFERENCE AND AT THE SAME TIME SAY THAT WHEN LOVE COMES IN MY LIFE...
02:19:04
Unidentified Speaker, -
ON RELIGION. AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH US, IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT RELIGION'S POWER TO HEAL OR TORTURE AND ITS POWER TO PROVIDE COMFORT AND...
02:19:19
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS DISPAIR, AND COULD YOU
02:19:21
Caller, -
TALK ABOUT SCIENCE AND REALITY BASED RELIGION AND ETHICAL CULTURE SOCIETIES AND YOUR PHILOSOPHY OF RELIGION? >> WELL, THERE'S A WONDERFUL BOOK BY A...
02:19:53
Unidentified Speaker, -
FREEDOM, WE CAN FIND HOPE IN SPIRIT EQUAL PRACTICE IN RELIGION. I MEAN, THE ROOT MEANING OF THE WORD RELIGION IS TO REJOIN, TO CONNECT, AND WE KNOW THAT...
02:21:44
Unidentified Speaker, -
IMPRESSED BY -- WHAT A WONDERFUL WRITER
02:21:46
Caller, -
YOU ARE AND HOW -- YOU HAVE INCREDIBLY GROWN THROUGH YOUR WRITING. AND THEN THE SPIRITUALITY THAT YOU HAVE CREATED THROUGH YOUR WRITING IS JUST AMAZING...
02:23:18
Unidentified Speaker, -
TOGETHER BUT ACTUALLY PEOPLE LIVE IN VERY SEGREGATED NEIGHBORHOODS. WHAT I FIND IS FASCINATING IS MOST PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORS....
02:24:09
Unidentified Speaker, -
A GROSS, YOU
02:24:11
Unidentified Speaker, -
KNOW, MISINFORMATION FOR PEOPLE
02:24:12
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO EQUATE THE TWO, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE ACADEMIC
02:24:16
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND SCHOLARS BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY
02:24:19
Unidentified Speaker, -
INTELLECT WAS BECAUSE
02:24:20
Unidentified Speaker, -
INTELLECT WAS REALLY, OUR COMMITMENT IS TO IDEAS. WE HAVE TO BE RADICALLY OPEN. WE CAN'T TAKE SIDES, WE CAN'T SPEAK THE DOGMA OF AN INSTITUTION, WE CAN'T...
02:27:37
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN OUR NATION. AND TO SOME EXTENT I FEEL THE EXPERIENCE OF ANY INSTITUTION
02:27:42
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS I SAID EARLIER, WHETHER IT'S CORNELL OR MYSELF, IT'S FREQUENTLY CONCONSERVATIVIZING, NOT SO MUCH THAT I'M CONCERNED CORNELL AT PRINCETON OR HARVARD,...
02:29:30
Unidentified Speaker, -
ALONG, YOU KNOW, HAVING NOT HAD A PERFECT LIFE
02:29:32
Caller, -
AND STILL TRANSEND ALL OF THAT AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF AND E. POWER THEMSELVES AND ET CETERA AND I APPRECIATE THAT. MY POINT IS THAT GROWING...
02:30:34
Unidentified Speaker, -
SELF-ESTEEM IS PART OF THE SDAINGER OF LIFE FOR BLACK
02:30:37
Unidentified Speaker, -
AMERICANS IS IN A SENSE THE WHOLE CULTURE ENCOURAGES US TO ONLY THINK ABOUT RACE OR ONLY FOCUS ON RACE. AND WHILE RACE IS SIGNIFICANT, IMPORTANT AND RACISM...
02:32:23
Unidentified Speaker, -
MOTHER, SHE TOLD ME YOU WERE ON AND I RAN THROUGH
02:32:25
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE HOUSE TO GET TO THE TV TO TURN
02:32:27
Caller, -
IT ON AND LISTEN TO YOU. YOU ARE ONE OF MY MENTORS, AND I WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT LIFE HAS BEEN A ROLLER COASTER. I GREW UP IN GARY, INDIANA, IN THE PROJECTS,...
02:33:45
Unidentified Speaker, -
I'VE PROBABLY SPOKEN THERE AROUND THE TWIN CITIES. I'VE GOT A VISION THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO SOMETHING MORE PROFOUND WITH MY LIFE, AND I STARTED WRITING....
02:33:57
Caller, -
A SERIES OF BOOKS ON MY LIFE. RIGHT NOW IT'S OF MY CHILDHOOD. AND I HAVE APPROXIMATELY 170 PAGES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I HAVE THIS GIFT FROM, I JUST...
02:34:39
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORE FULLY WHO YOU ARE AND SO I CAN ONLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO FOR IT AND IF
02:34:43
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU WANT TO PUBLISH YOUR WORK TO THINK ABOUT SELF-PUBLISHING OR TO THINK ABOUT SENDING IT PUBLISHERS OF BOOKS THAT ARE THE KIND OF BOOKS YOU LIKE TO READ,...
02:35:32
Unidentified Speaker, -
I DIDN'T GET ROYALTIES. YOU KNOW, UPFRONT. A WORLD OF THE STRUGGLING INDEPENDENT PRESS AND I CONTINUE TO ACCOMPLISH FEMINISM FOR EVERYBODY WAS PUBLISHED...
02:35:47
Unidentified Speaker, -
A DEEP LOYALTY TO THE INDEPENDENT PRESS IN AMERICA SO WHILE I'VE GONE ON TO SELL BOOKS FOR MORE MONEY TO MORE CORPORATE PRESS WHICH WE DO THAT BECAUSE...
02:38:35
Unidentified Speaker, -
PART OF MY LIFE AND A PART OF MY WRITING EVALUATION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS --
02:38:40
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT'S AN UP AND DOWN THING. SHE'S GOING TO COMPLETE HER WORK ON "ROCK MY SOUL, BLACK PEOPLE AND SELF-ESTEEM," BUT I HAVE NOW A NEW EDITOR THAT I'M GETTING...
02:39:15
Unidentified Speaker, -
DIALOG ABOUT MY DAUGHTER, 12-YEAR-OLD
02:39:18
Caller, -
DAUGHTER ABOUT MY POLITIC AND MY FEMINISM, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL. I WAS EXPOSED TO YOUR WORK AT UC BERKELEY WORK ON A DEGREE ON DEFENSE YANTS IND THE ROLE...
02:40:08
Unidentified Speaker, -
BECAUSE I SAID, GOSH, I GUESS THIS ENERGY WAS JUST CREATED OUT THERE IN THE UNIVERSE THAT SAID I NEEDED TO BE HERE WITH CONNIE DISCUSSING ME BOOK. >>...
02:40:37
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO CHANGE MEN SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THEY'RE NEAR DEATH TO BE IN A STATE I WOULD PREFER. >> I DIDN'T SAYING A STATE I WOULD PREFER, I SAID A...
02:41:04
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO YOU BECAUSE HE SO BRILLIANTIANITILY TALKS ABOUT HOW MEN SHUT DOWN THEIR FEELINGS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, MEN AREN'T ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH...
02:42:27
Unidentified Speaker, -
FEMINIST REFORMISM WAS AIMED AT EQUAL RIGHTS FOR EQUAL PAY. THAT'S A REFORM
02:42:31
Unidentified Speaker, -
GESTURE. A MORE RADICAL VERSION OF FEMINISM WOULD SAY WE NEED TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF WORK, PEOPLE NEED TO WORK FEWER HOURS SO THEY HAVE MORE TIME...
02:43:35
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I HAVEN'T SEEN MORE BLACK WOMEN
02:43:37
Caller, -
BECOMING ART CRITICS, WHEN I FIRST WROTE ABOUT THIS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE FORMS OF WRITING THAT ARE NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE TO MAKING MONEY. ...
02:43:55
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AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIFE AND EXPERIENCE AND THOUGHT THAT MAY NOT MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. THAT MEANS THAT WE'VE GOT TO BUILD INTO OUR SENSE OF CULTURE WHAT...
02:45:03
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HISTORY, IS IT A MISCONCEPTION. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER OFTEN PEOPLE WHAT PEOPLE WRITE IS DRIVEN BY WHAT THE MARKETPLACE WILL BUY. SO MUCH OF WHAT...
02:45:26
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TEACHING, BY THE WAY BLACKNESS DOESN'T PLAY MUCH IN TEACHING TO TRANSGRESS, THE MARKET THEN WANTS ME TO WRITE ANOTHER BOOK ABOUT TEACHING, I MEAN, BECAUSE...
02:48:49
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MY NEPHEW HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH
02:48:51
Caller, -
ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER BUT
02:48:55
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ALSO APPEARS TO
02:48:56
Caller, -
HAVE AN UNDIAGNOSED LEARNING DISORDER WE CELEBRATED HIS 14th BIRTHDAY YESTERDAY AND HE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME READING HIS BIRTHDAY CARDS BUS HIS MOTHER...
02:49:55
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THEM. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MAKING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL CHILDREN. >> LET'S BEGIN BY SAYING THAT MOST GIFTED CHILDREN OF ANY RACE TEND TO GO...
02:50:21
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MORE YOU HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, PEOPLE WON'T SEE IT, OH, HE'S PARTICULARLY GIFTED, THEY'LL SAY HE'S DUMB, HEELS A PROBLEM. MY OWN GODDAUGHTER WHEN...
02:52:44
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LEAVE, BUOY, MARYLAND. >> Caller: HELLO, BELL, HOW ARE YOU. >> FINE. >> Caller: GOOD. I'M A SINGLE MOTHER OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN BOY AND I HAD TO LOOK...
02:53:08
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BREAKING BREAD PARTICULARLY
02:53:09
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THE PIECE WHERE YOU TALKED
02:53:10
Caller, -
ABOUT HOW YOU SAY YOUR PEACE IS IN CHURCH AND THE DEACON HE ISS WOULD SO AFFIRM EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND I REMEMBER HOW MUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT...
02:54:10
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OF THEIR CHILDREN, PARTICULARLY BLACK BOYS, WHICH IS IF THEY'RE IN A SCHOOL WHERE THEY'RE HAVING LOTS OF PROBLEMS THEN YOU SEEK FOR THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT...
02:55:34
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IN OUR SOCIETY. >> WHAT ABOUT THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT? >> THROUGH THE
02:55:39
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TRADITIONAL GOVERNMENT? >> YEAH, UH-HUH. >> I TRY TO WORK ON BEHALF OF THINGS THAT I FEEL ARE VITAL BUT I GET AJOYED AS IN THE CASE OF THE LAST ELECTION...
02:55:55
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GORE AND HE DID NOT. BUT I DO FEEL THAT OURS IS THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RULING
02:55:59
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CLASSES,
02:56:00
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SO I TEND TO ENCOURAGE
02:56:01
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MORE ALTERNATIVE NOTIONS OF GOVERNMENT AND SELF-RESPONSIBILITY. DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM. BECAUSE I THINK IF WE WORK MORE WITHIN COMMUNITIES PEOPLE CAN BRING...
02:56:35
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CHILD, I WAS
02:56:37
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VERY SHELTERED IN -- IN A
02:56:39
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RELIGIOUS HOME ENVIRONMENT. AND EMILY
02:56:42
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DICKINSON WAS MY LIGHT TELLING ME THAT I COULD BE A THINKER AND A THINKER AND A WRITER. YOU KNOW, WHEN I READ HER, "THIS IS MY LETTER TO THE WORLD" THAT...
02:57:45
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AND I FEEL SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE SO MANY READERS FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PLACES. >> YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING "IN
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DEPTH" WITH BELL HOOKS. IF YOU MISSED ANY PORTION OF
02:57:58
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THIS THREE-HOUR INTERVIEW, YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRAM AGAIN AT 5 P.M. EASTERN AND LATER AGAIN TONIGHT AT MIDNIGHT. >>
02:58:05
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NEXT MONTH ON "IN
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DEPTH" HARVARD UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR, DAVID HERBERT DONALD. HE THE AUTHOR OF NUMEROUS BOOKS. HE

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