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WEEKS AFTER THIS BOOK CAME OUT, THERE'S ABOUT 2 MILLION. THIS BOOK IS MAKING A LOT OF NOISE EVERYWHERE. >> THANK YOU. >> OVER THE SPAN OF THREE DECADES,...
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BASEBALL AND READING. HER NEXT BOOK IS CALLED "TEAM
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OF RIVALS" ABOUT PRESIDENT LINCOLN AND HIS CABINET. NEXT, A DISCUSSION WITH DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN. >> DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN, AT LAST COUNT, 1,191 BOOKS...
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AND I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF MY LIFE. I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT HIM AND THE CIVIL WAR AND HE TURNED OUT TO BE THE BEST COMPANION I COULD...
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AND READING. I HOPED TO DO A BOOK ABOUT ABE AND MARY AND I KNEW MARY COULDN'T HOLD THE PUBLIC'S SIDE. AND I REALIZED HE WAS SPENDING EVEN MORE TIME...
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WITH MARY. IT'S SUCH A TENSE
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TIME. THEY WAIT FOR NEWS FROM THE BATTLEFIELD. THEY GO TO THE FRONT. THEY RELAX TOGETHER AT NIGHT. I THOUGHT, THESE ARE THE GUYS I'M INTERESTED IN....
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THE BEGINNING TO THE END. >> YOU HAVE WRITTEN A NUMBER OF BOOKS WITH PRIMARY SOURCES. NOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH 19TH CENTURY
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FIGURES AS OPPOSED TO 20TH SOANT REFIGURES. >> I WAS WORRIED. EVEN IN ROOSEVELT'S TIME, THERE WERE THREE DOZEN PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM AND THE FAMILY. WITH...
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THAT GIANT OF A MAN. SO I THOUGHT, HOW CAN I GO BACK TO A PERIOD WHERE I CAN'T TALK TO ANYONE. BUT BECAUSE THEY KEPT DIARIES DURING THAT
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PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S A GREAT SOURCE. 200 YEARS FROM NOW WE WILL NEVER KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT US AS WE KNOW ABOUT THESE FIGURES. SO I LOVE READING LETTERS....
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MARKED A NUMBER OF SIMILARITIES. HOW SO? >> I THINK WHAT WAS SO INTERESTING FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THAT GENERATION, THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT IN DEMOCRACY...
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AND PEOPLE NOT WHAT YOU IMAGINE TODAY. THEY SAY POLITICS BACK THEN IS WHAT SPORTS ARE FOR US TODAY. THAT'S WHAT SHAPED ALL OF THEM. THEY ALL WANTED...
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VERY POWERFUL IN THOSE DAYS. >> WHO WAS WILLIAM
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STEWARD? >> SEWARD IS MY FAVORITE. HE COULD DRINK AND SMOKE AND HAD PARTIES IN HIS HOUSE IN THE 1850'S WHERE THERE WAS SO MUCH WINE, EASTERN THE SOUTHERNERS...
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HE HAD BEEN NOMINATED
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THAT CHAMPAGNE HAD BEEN UNCORKED. HE WAS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED. WHEN LINCOLN APPOINTED HIM SECRETARY OF STATE HE THOUGHT HE WOULD CONTROL LINCOLN AND...
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OF BLACK EQUALITY. WHEN
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LINCOLN MADE HIM SECRETARY OF THE TREASURE, HE KEPT TRYING TO MANEUVER AGAINST LINCOLN BUT LINCOLN BESTED HIM. >> AND EDWARD BATES? >> BATES WAS A STATESMAN...
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MISS YOU, I HAVE A RESTLESS
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FEELING. HE WASN'T AWAY FROM HER LONG BECAUSE THEY HAD 17 CHILDREN. IT SHOWS HOW FAMILY LIFE AFFECTS PUBLIC LIFE. IN THE 17TH CENTURY, THEY BARELY MENTIONED...
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A HUGE LINCOLN FAN. AND HE WOULD THINK
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I WAS
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TRYING TO BE CRITICAL OF HIM AND HE WOULD SAY, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? HE STUDIED LINCOLN ALL THE TIME. WE'RE BOTH WRITERS. WE WORK AT HOME, IN DIFFERENT...
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SOMEBODY LIKE THAT. I WOULD GIVE HIM PAGES EVERY DAY AS I FINISHED THEM. >> HE STUDIED AS DEEPLY ABOUT LINCOLN AS ANYONE D HE INSPIRE YOU TO DO THE...
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MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAN LINCOLN'S BRILLIANCE AS A WORD SMITH AND SPEAKER TO THE NATION. >>
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WHO CAME UP WITH THE TITLE. >> THE TITLE WAS A PROBLEM. FOR A WHILE WE WANTED TO CALL IT MASTER AMONG MEN. THAT'S WHAT IT IS ABOUT, HIS HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS....
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GREAT UNIFIER
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OR THE GREAT COLASS IS. WE JUST WENT BACK TO "TEAM OF RIVALS" WHICH IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT. >> OUR CONVERSATION FOR THE NEXT THREE HOURS HERE ON "BOOK...
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BOOKTV"@C-SPAN.ORG. IN YOUR LAST CONVERSATION WITH LYNDON JOHNSON, YOU TALK ABOUT ABRAHAM LINCOLN. >> HE WAS READING SANDBURG'S DIARY ON LINCOLN. AND...
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WITH THIS AGING LION OF A MAN. HE FELT IN THE END AS IF HIS CAREER HAD BEEN DESTROYED BY THE WAR IN VIETNAM. I HAD THOSE HOURS WITH HIM AND IT WAS...
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WAS SELECTED AT HARVARD, LIKE MANY YOUNG PEOPLE,
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ACTIVE IN THE ANTI-VIETNAM WAR MOVEMENT SO I WROTE AN ARTICLE AGAINST JOHNSON WHICH CAME OUT AFTER BEING SELECTED AND THE THEME WAS HOW TO GET RID...
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OF THE TIME I WAS TALKING TO HIM. WHEN I DANCED HE LITERALLY PICKED ME UP OFF THE FLOOR AS WE WERE GOING AROUND THE ROOM. >> LET'S GET 134 QUESTIONS....
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MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I JUST PUNISHED THE BOOK TWO DAYS AGO. I'M A HUGE FAN OF LINCOLN. MY QUESTION IS, LINCOLN'S ABOUT TO REACH OUT TO HIS...
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WOULD YOU COMMENT ON THE SEEMING POSSIBILITY OF THAT HAPPENING NOW? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH HARDER NOW. NOW WE HAVE A...
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FOUR YEARS. THE OTHER THING IS THAT THESE GUYS WERE ALL RIVALS OF ONE ANOTHER AND THEY SAID TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. YOU WILL SEE, UNMITIGATED...
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WITH THE COUNTRY. IF YOU DO WELL WITH THE COUNTRY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT ELECTION. IT WILL PROBABLY COME TO YOU. >> KANSAS CITY, GO AHEAD. >> THANK...
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MY CALL. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS ABOUT HOW LINCOLN DEALT WITH SOME OF THE SAVAGERY THAT HAPPENED AS A BYPRODUCT OF THE CIVIL...
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THE QUANTRELL'S RAIDERS THAT DID A LOT OF BUTCHERY. DID LINCOLN DO ANYTHING TO TRY TO STOP IT OR WHAT WAS HIS FEELING ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF RIVALRIES?...
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FROM WHAT WE SEE FROM THE LINCOLN CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE, AS MUCH AS HE KNEW THAT WAS A TERRIBLE BUY PRODUCT OF WAR, HE FIGURED, UNLESS THE SOUTHERN...
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| 00:14:15 |
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AT THE RANCH, SOMETIMES I STAYED THERE WHILE I WAS TEACHING AT HARVARD. HE WAS A GREAT
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STORY TELLER. I WOULD LISTEN TORE HOURS AS HE TOLD ME STORIES NOT ONLY ABOUT THE VANTAGE POINT BUT STORIES ABOUT HIS CHILDHOOD. HE WAS ORIGINALLY GOING...
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PEOPLE WORKING ON IT THAN I WAS. THEY WERE FULL TIME AND I WAS PART TIME AND I ONLY WORKED ON THOSE TWO CHAPTERS. THAT MEANT HE TALKED TO ME AND YOU...
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DONE ABSOLUTELY. >> A QUOTE FROM LYNDON JOHNSON. AFTER HE TEAK THE OATH OF OFFICE, HE SAID I BECAME PRESIDENT. FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS I WAS STILL...
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SPOKE IN COLORFUL LANGUAGE. YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR HIM TO KNOW THE COUNTRY LOVED KENNEDY SO MUCH AND WONDERED DID HE HAVE SOMETHING...
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GREAT YEARS IN AMERICAN HISTORY. IF ONLY HE HAD NOT GOTTEN INTO VIETNAM, I THINK HE WOULD HAVE BEEN REMEMBERED AS A GREAT PRESIDENT. >> NEXT CALLER...
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MORE I REALLY WARMED UP TO IT AND WHAT GETS ME IS
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HOW HISTORIANS CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING AND THEY
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CAN DIFFER IN
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THEIR INTERPRETATION.
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IF THEY'RE LIKE ECONOMISTS, YOU GET THEM IN A ROOM AND THEY DON'T AGREE. BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT HOW EXACTLY DO HISTORIANS GO ABOUT GATHERING...
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HAPPENS WHEN HISTORIANS WRITE HISTORY, WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT PRIMARY SOURCES WHICH MEANS HE WAS IN THE DIARIES USING THE LETTERS AND ORAL HISTORIES...
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WHAT CAN YOU DO OTHER THAN DO THAT. >> THERE ARE A HUNDRED PLUS PAGES OF FOOTNOTES
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AND BIBLIOGRAPHY. >> I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE EVEN IF THIS HASN'T HAPPENED. THERE ARE SOME PRIMARY SOURCES AND THERE'S SOMETHING...
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PUT IN THE FOOTNOTE SOURCES FOR OTHER SCHOLARS SO THEY CAN LOOK IT
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| 00:19:44 |
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UP THEMSELVES. IT'S A SHARING PROCESS. I THINK THE LINCOLN SCHOLARS WILL BE HAPPY AND HOPEFULLY A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW A HISTORIAN WILL FIND A SOURCE...
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DO IT RIGHT. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE JITS GERALD'S AND THE
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KENNEDYS. IT'S NEW DOCUMENTS THAT YOU FOUND. WHAT WERE THEY. >> IT TURNED OUT TEDDY KENNEDY GAVE ME ACCESS TO 150 DARTD TONS THAT HAD BEEN IN AN ATTIC...
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LETTERS FROM THE FAMILY, CHECK CARDS. IT WAS REALLY A WAY INTO THE KENNEDY FAMILY I WOULDN'T
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HAVE HAD WITHOUT THOSE. IT WAS WORTH SPENDING ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT BOOK TOOK ME TEN YEARS. >> YOU WROTE, HAD TIMES BEEN DIFFERENT, EUNICE COULD...
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CARE OF EVERYONE AND THE CLOSEST TO ROSEMARY. SHE
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HAD INTENSITY AND DRIVE. IN SOME WAYS I THINK SHE WAS THE LEADER OF THE YOUNGER GROUP OF GENERATIONS OF THE KENNEDYS. THEY OFTEN SAID IF SHE HAD BEEN...
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CONSTANT AFTER THE WAR. SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL AND FEISTY AND HAD HER OWN LIFE APART FROM THE
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KENNEDYS MORE THAN THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS DID. >> IN THE BOOK, YOU WILL PROBABLY SAY IT BETTER THAN I K BUT YOU WRITE ABOUT HOW JOE, SENIOR, CAME...
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MORE SOCIALLY AT EASE THAN JACK WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER, MORE HANDSOME, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT AND ALL OF THE FAMILY'S HOPES WERE PUT ON HIM. WHEN JOE...
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THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WOULD SURVIVE. ROSE HAD HER LOVE WITH GOD AND KNEW JOE JUNIOR WAS WITH GOD AND SHE WOULD BE WITH HIM SOME DAY. BUT JOE SENIOR...
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| 00:23:21 |
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THEY FINALLY SEPARATED AND TRIED TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.
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WHAT HAPPENED, A LOT OF JOE JUNIOR'S FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES AND PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN IN THE MILITARY WITH HIM WROTE LETTERS TO HER AND TOLD THEM WHAT...
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| 00:24:00 |
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MUCH. >> AND I THINK THAT YOU
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GIVEING CREDIT TO PRESIDENT
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JOHNSON, EVERYBODY THINKS KENNEDY DID ALL
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OF THESE THINGS TO HELPED POOR AND THE MINORITIES BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY PRESIDENT JOHNSON AND
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| 00:24:11 |
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HE DOESN'T GET THE CREDIT. BUT GOING BACK TO LINCOLN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU SAID YOU TRY TO WRITE THESE BIOGRAPHIES
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WITHOUT BIASES. LINCOLN RAPED AND
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| 00:24:23 |
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TORTURED THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF MAN. HABEAS CORPUS, LOCKING UP NEWSPAPER WRITERS, JAILING PEOPLE...
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| 00:26:28 |
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SECEDE,
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SLAVERY WOULD STAY IN THE SOUTH AND THE WEST WOULD SPLAITD FROM THE EAST AND EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN DELIGHTED THAT THE BEACON OF HOPE...
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| 00:28:02 |
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MARK ANTONY WHOSE FAME OTHERRATION MADE OUT LAWS OF THE ASSASSINS. >> JOHN WILKS BOOTH HAD A TRIPLE ASSASSINATION PLOT. IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO KILL LINCOLN....
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THIRD ASSASSIN DID GET TO HIS HOUSE. HE HAD JUST BROKEN HIS JAW AND THE ASSASSIN CAME IN PRETENDING HE HAD MEDICINE FOR SEWARD. HE MADE HIS WAY TO...
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| 00:29:44 |
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BE DONE. A LOT OF WOMEN CARRIED THESE VAPORS AND NO ONE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WERE. BUT SHE HAD A
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FAILED CONSTITUTION. AND FOR WEEKS THEY WERE IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION AFTER THIS AND SHE WROTE TO HER PAPERS SHE HAD NEVER BELIEVED IN VICARIOUS ...
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| 00:30:32 |
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SO MANY OTHER LINCOLN SCHOLARS, HOW DOES SOMEONE FIND SOMETHING FRESH? AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS, THERE'S AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN, A WONDERFUL HISTORIAN...
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WERE NEVER PUBLISHED. THE CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING FRESH, ALL OF THE GUIDES, BECAUSE THEY KEPT DIARIES, THEY WERE GOSSIPING ABOUT LINCOLN AND EACH...
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| 00:33:20 |
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THINK OF HER AS THE OLDER WOMAN
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| 00:33:26 |
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WHO CHILDREN. HER YOUNGEST SON DIED AT 18 AND SHE WAS EVENTUALLY PUT INTO AN ASYLUM BY HER OLDEST SON ROBERT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T THINK SHE WAS STABLE...
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| 00:34:28 |
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RACE. STEPHEN DOUGLAS WAS VERY SHORT AND BULL LOOKING SO HE WAS CALLED THE LITTLE GIANT BECAUSE HE HAD A HUGE HEAD AND HE WAS VERY, VERY SMART. I THINK...
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SOMETHING. HISTORIANS HAVE BEEN UNKIND TO HER IN A LOT OF WAYS. BUT SHE WAS HIS PARTNER IN THE 1850'S. SHE HAD FAITH IN HIM. I DON'T THINK HE NEEDED...
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REMEMBER BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST TIME THE TWO MEN SAW EACH
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OTHER BEFORE DOUGLAS DIED A FEW MONTHS LATER. >> WHAT WAS HE DYING FRL? >> HE HAD DIFFICULTS WITH ALCOHOLISM AND WAS DRINKING A LOT AND HIS BODE WAS...
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| 00:35:53 |
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ELECTION AND I THINK
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| 00:35:54 |
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HIS BODY JUST WORE DOWN. >> HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT PUTTING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER? YOU REFER TO THE BOOKS THAT LATER IN THE PROGRAM SHOW YOUR LIBRARY...
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| 00:36:16 |
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WHEN YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH AND IT WILL TAKE TIME, NOT TO GET PARALYZED BY DOING TOO MUCH RESEARCH. IF I HAD GONE ON FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND NEVER...
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| 00:36:29 |
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WORD, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? IT TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS TO FIGURE OUT I WOULD WRITE ABOUT THE RIVALS AND I WAS DOING RESEARCH ON LINCOLN, AND WRITING...
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| 00:37:40 |
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I HAD SOME WONDERFUL TEACHENERS HIGH SCHOOL. THERE WAS A WOMAN NAMED MS. AUSTIN -- I WENT TO SCHOOL IN LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK,Y
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| 00:37:48 |
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AND SHE WON AN AWARD AS THE BEST HISTORY TEACHER IN NEW YORK STATE. WHAT WAS SO GREAT ABOUT HER, SHE MADE US FEEL LIKE SHE CARED PASSIONATELY ABOUT...
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| 00:37:59 |
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ABOUT FRANK LISTEN ROOSEVELT, SHE LOVED HIM. WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT HIS DEATH, SHE CRIED. WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN THE 1950'S,...
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| 00:39:18 |
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A BOOK ABOUT BASEBALL SOMEHOW. I THINK THE MORE I REALIZED IT, WHEN I REMEMBERED THE FACT MY FATHER IN SOME WAYS WAS THE FIRST TEACHER I HAD EVER...
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| 00:40:36 |
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OF NEVER HAVING TO GO TO SLEEP. AND THE ONLY THING I LOVED AS MUCH AS HER READING TO ME WAS HER LISTENING TO STORIES ABOUT HER GIRLFRIENDHOOD. I BECAME...
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| 00:41:31 |
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NO MATTER WHERE I WAS. >> HOW DID YOU GET THE NICKNAME BUBBLES? >> MY FATHER LIKED TO THINK I WAS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THINGS AND I WOULD GET EXCITED...
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BALLGAME OR DOING ANYTHING SO HE THOUGHT THAT WAS A BUBBLY THING SO HE WOULD WRITE HE LETTERS AND SAY DEAR BUBBLES. >> YOU ALSO
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| 00:41:56 |
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WRITE ABOUT YOUR HOME. >> WHAT WAS WONDERFUL IN THOSE DEGREES, THE HOMES WERE SO CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER WITH A TINY PATCH OF LAWN SO MY BEST FRIEND HAD...
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| 00:42:19 |
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THOSE DAYS IN
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THE 1850IES -- I MEAN THE 1950'S, I'M NOT THAT OLD, THERE WERE GIANT DODGER AND YANKEES FANS. SHE WAS A YANKY FAN, I WAS A DODGER FAN. BASEBALL WAS...
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FRANCIS KEARNS. >>
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ISN'T THAT A GREAT NAME? THAT MAN, I LOVED SO MUCH. HE HAD SUCH A DIFFICULT CHILDHOOD. HE GREW NEWSPAPER BROOKLYN. HIS FATHER WAS A FIREMAN. HE HAD A...
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| 00:42:56 |
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WITH HIS LITTLE SISTER AND HIS FATHER EVENTUALLY
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| 00:42:58 |
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KILLED HIMSELF AND HIS LITTLE SISTER WHEN SHE WAS 16 YEARS OLD DIED IN THE DENTIST CHAIR FROM SOME FAULTY ANESTHESIA. YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD CREATE...
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| 00:43:50 |
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YOU THINK
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| 00:43:51 |
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YOU WILL BE STRUCK DEAD IF YOU GO TO A PROTESTANT CHURCH. BUT MY FATHER SAID DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT I THOUGHT I TRADED MY SOUL FOR THIS NIGHT....
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| 00:45:11 |
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BECAME A TYRANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. I DIDN'T FOLLOW BASEBALL AGAIN FOR SO MANY YEARS, SO SADDENED BY THE LOSS OF THE DODGERS UNLESS I MOVED TO HARVARD...
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| 00:45:23 |
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FENWAY PARKS AND BECAME A REDS FAN. >> NEXT CALLER PLEASE? CALLER: I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE THEORY THAT CAME OUT THAT LINCOLN WAS A DEPRESSIVE. I...
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| 00:45:51 |
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THAT LINCOLN DID. AND I WONDER WHAT YOUR FINDINGS ARE ON THAT AND WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT LINCOLN HAVING BEEN A DEPRESSIVE. >> I CAME AWAY WITH A SOMEWHAT...
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| 00:46:20 |
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CHANGE THINGS FOR THEM. HE KNEW HOW GET OUT OF HIS MELANCHOLY FEELINGS. HE KNEW TO CUT TO CONVERSATION WHEN HE WAS LONELY. EVEN IN THE PRESIDENCY,...
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| 00:47:58 |
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FANTASTIC, SHOWING FOR EXAMPLE IN 1964 WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO GET THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT THROUGH THE CONGRESS, THE TAPES SHOW HIM TALKING TO DIRKSON, THE...
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| 00:48:09 |
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BREAK THE FILIBUSTER ON CIVIL RIGHTS ACT. AT FIRST HE IS PROMISING EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN. YOU COME WITH ME AND YOU WILL GET DAMS AND EVERY PART...
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| 00:49:47 |
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HIS PUBLIC OPINION POLLS GONE DOWN AND IT SEEMED-LIKE THE PEOPLE FORGOT ALL OF THE THINGS HE ACCOMPLISHED. I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE HE SENSED SOME
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| 00:49:56 |
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OF THAT AND I DON'T THINK HE D I THINK IF HE HAD ONLY LIVED A LITTLE LONGER, HISTORIANS ARE PUTTING HIM HIGHER AND HIGHER UP IN THE PUBLIC OPINION...
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| 00:50:35 |
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FOR WHICH MEETING TO GO TO ON THE HILL. RATHER IT WAS WHICH COWS GOING
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| 00:50:40 |
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TO GET THE MEDICINE AND WHICH TRACTORS TO FIX ON THE FIELD. IT WAS NOT ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN HIM. YOU FELT AS IF THE TWOIL LIVE HAD BEEN DIMINISHED. HE...
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| 00:51:21 |
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HAS SHOWN ME A WORLD AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I REMEMBER ONE TIME, WHENEVER HE WOULD BE GOING OFF ON SOMETHING AND SAYING SO AND SO IS A MEMBER...
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| 00:51:30 |
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COMMUNIST PARTY. SHE WOULD SAY, LYNDON, YOU DON'T MEAN THAT AND ALL OF THE TENSION WOULD EASE OUT OF HIM. >> WHY DID YOU WRITE "LYNDON JOHNSON AND THE...
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| 00:51:57 |
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CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE BECOME A PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN HAD IT NOT BEEN
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FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HIM. >> THERE'S A STORY SOMEWHERE THAT HE CRAWLED INTO BED WITH YOU. >> I TOLD THE STORY. SHE WHAT HAPPENED. HE WOULD...
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| 00:52:23 |
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COME INTO MY ROOM IN THE MORNING AND I WOULD GET UP KNOWING HE WAS COMING COMING
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| 00:52:27 |
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IN AND HE WOULD BRING THE COVERS UP TO HIS CHIN AND TALK TO ME. AND IT WAS, AS I SAY, A WONDERFUL WAY TO HEAR ABOUT THE PAST, TO SEE A PERSON -- THEIR...
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| 00:53:05 |
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I SHOULD NOT PERMIT THE PRESIDENT TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THE PARTISAN DIVISION THAT ARE DEVELOPING IN THIS POLITICAL YEAR. WITH AMERICANS SONS IN THE...
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| 00:53:24 |
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WITH AMERICA'S FUTURE UNDER CHALLENGE RIGHT HERE AT HOME, WITH OUR HOPES AND THE WORLD'S HOPES, FOR PEACE IN THE BALANCE EVERY DAY, I DO NOT BELIEVE...
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| 00:55:17 |
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WHAT JOHNSON SO HONORED ABOUT PRESUME MAN IS WHAT HE HAD TO DROP THE ATOMIC BACK BOMB, HE MADE THAT DECISION BASED ON THE BEST FACTS AT HIS DISPOSAL....
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WONDER ABOUT, DID THE BOMBS DROP IN THE RIGHT PLACE, HAVE I DONE THE RIGHT THING? HE WAS TORTURED BY THAT. I THINK WHAT HAPPENED THAT LED UP TO THIS...
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| 00:57:13 |
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CIVIL RIGHTS, AND LEWIS WAS ONE OF THE
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PEOPLE WORKING ON THE SPEECH, GIVING IDEAS FOR IT. SO I HAD HELPED HIM A LITTLE ON IT AND I WAS SO EXCITED HE WAS GOING TO DO AND TURN CIVIL RIGHTS...
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| 00:58:27 |
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WITH YOUR PRIEST. >> THE REASON I WAS CALLING, WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT LYNDON JOHNSON, THE THING WHERE HE USE THE C.I.A. TO LOOK INTO MARTIN LUTHER KING'S...
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| 00:58:45 |
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THE THINKING BEHIND THAT OR WAS THERE ANY OR WAS
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| 00:58:48 |
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IT JUST -- I GUESS J.
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| 00:58:50 |
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EDGAR HOOVER WAS A BIG PART OF THIS? >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK J. EDGAR HOOVER WAS A FORCE UNTO HIS OWN RIGHT. IT DOESN'T MEAN THE PRESIDENT ...
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| 00:59:13 |
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FOR PEOPLE LIKE HOOVER, THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS A THREAT, BECAUSE IT MEANT LOTS OF PEOPLE GATSZ RING TOGETHER AND THERE COULD BE VIOLENCE AND ALSO...
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| 01:00:01 |
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IRAQ. HE GRADUATED FROM HARVARD IN COLLEGE IN 2001 IN HISTORY AND
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| 01:00:05 |
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LITERATURE AND ENDED UP INSTEAD OF GOING ON TO GRADUATE SCHOOL THAT FALL, AFTER SEPTEMBER 11 WENT ON TO THE ARMY FOR A FOUR-YEAR COMMITMENT WITH THE...
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| 01:01:48 |
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WORLD SERIES TO SHARE WITH MY MOTHER AND FATHER
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| 01:01:50 |
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AND THE SECOND ONE TO SHARE WITH MY THREE SONS. WE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO JOEY IN IRAQ, OUR SON MICHAEL IN VERMONT AND RICHARD IN CALIFORNIA THAT'S WHAT'S...
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| 01:03:02 |
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HISTORY WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT WAS A GOOD THING. IF YOU DON'T TELL THE PEOPLE
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| 01:03:06 |
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WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IS I THINK IT'S VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO SUSTAIN THE SUPPORT FOR THE WAR. ICE INTERESTING, EVEN LINCOLN QUESTIONED THE RATIONALE FOR...
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| 01:05:08 |
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EVERYBODY. MY FIRST TWO QUESTIONS, PLEASE JOT THESE DOWN. AND I DON'T HAVE YOUR BOOK YET BUT I PLAN ON DOING SO. DID YOU COVER THE MASSACRE AND...
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| 01:05:23 |
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PRESIDENT LINCOLN WOULD VIEW THE REAL POSSIBILITY OF A BLACK WOMAN BECOMING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 20012348 >> I CAN TRY TO ANSWER BOTH...
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| 01:05:51 |
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THAT. AND LINCOLN WAS HESITANT ABOUT THAT AT FIRST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT TO RETALIATE AGAINST SOME INDIVIDUAL WHO IS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN...
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| 01:07:14 |
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QUESTIONS. THERE'S A CLASS DEPICTION OF LINCOLN REACHING OUT
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| 01:07:21 |
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TO ARCHBISHOP JOHN HUGHES IN A
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| 01:07:25 |
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ROMAN CATHOLIC CATHEDRAL SIX BLOCKS DUE SOW OF THE OLD STATE CAPITOL. NOW, IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE LINCOLN AND THE ARCHBISHOP WITH SUE WARD'S DOCTRINE...
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| 01:08:12 |
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FRIEND OF ARCHBISHOP HUGHES AND HAD A PICTURE. AND AT THAT TIME THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ANTI-CATHOLIC, HE NEEDED THEM TO VOTE FOR SEWARD....
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| 01:09:34 |
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CHIEFS MET THERE SO MAY CALLED IT THE WIGWAM. AND IT WAS PART OF
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| 01:09:38 |
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WHAT ALLOWED CHICAGO TO GET THE CONVENTION BECAUSE THEY PROMISED THEY WOULD BUILD A STRUCTURE PRECISELY FOR IT. WHAT'S AMAZING WHEN THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE...
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| 01:10:46 |
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1855. TRUMBULL SUPPORTER, HE WAS A FORMER DEMOCRAT, WERE NOT THROG GO WITH
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| 01:10:53 |
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LINCOLN. NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM BUT BECAUSE HE WAS A WIG. THEY HELD OUT AND IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WOULD BE A STALEMATE. LINCOLN WORRIED IF...
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| 01:12:08 |
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MORE CONSERVATIVE IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY LINCOLN WAS ABLE TO WIN THE ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE SPLIT IN THE OTHER PARTY. >>...
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| 01:12:18 |
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IT WAS NOT VERY GREAT. IT WAS ENOUGH -- AT THE VERY END, WHAT LINCOLN WAS AFRAID OF WAS IF NEW YORK WITH ITS GREAT ELECTORAL VOTES WENT FOR DOUGLAS, AND...
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| 01:12:36 |
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TRADING WITH THE SOUTH.
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| 01:12:38 |
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AND SEWARD DID OWEMAN WORK IN NEW YORK. EVEN THOUGH HE WAS TOLD AT MIDNIGHT, DON'T WORRY. HE SAID UNTIL I HEAR NEW YORK'S TOTALS, BECAUSE IF HE LOST NEW...
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| 01:13:15 |
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NIGHT SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW HE WAS COMING THROUGH. SO HE DID DO THAT. HE DID NOT WEAR A SCOTTISH CLOAK LIKE THIS CARTOON PORTRAYED. BUT SOMEHOW THE...
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| 01:13:29 |
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LIKE HERE'S THE PRESIDENT-ELECT COMING TO WASHINGTON AND HE CAN'T EVEN COME UNDER HIS OWN POWER. AND HE WISHED THEN THAT HE HAD ACTUALLY TAKEN THE RISK...
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| 01:14:33 |
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THEY HAD TO LET CONTRACTS OUT TO SUPPLIERS TO MAKE KNAPSACKS AND TO
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| 01:14:37 |
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MAKE WEAPONS AND TO MAKE ALL SORTS OF, YOU KNOW, MACHINERY FOR THE WAR. AND OBVIOUSLY MIDDLEMEN
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| 01:14:43 |
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MADE AWAY WITH SCANDALOUS PROFITS AND PRODUCED NAP STACKS
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| 01:14:47 |
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THAT FELL APART IN THE RAIN AND PRODUCED PISTOLS THAT DIDN'T
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| 01:14:50 |
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WORK. YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE WORRIES WE MIGHT HAVE EVEN TODAY. BUT THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT CAMERON, THEN THE SECRETARY OF WAR, WAS ABOUT...
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| 01:15:55 |
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DO YOU THINK YOU SKIM OVER? >> I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK I DID COME AWAY WITH A POSITIVE FEELING ABOUT LINCOLN. I COULDN'T WRITE ABOUT STALIN OR HITLER...
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| 01:16:27 |
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HIS UNDERSTANDINGS OF EQUALITY WERE NOT AS SPACIOUS AS ONE WOULD HOPE. NOT EVEN AS SPACIOUS AS SALMON CHASE'S WERE. AND NO QUESTION THERE WERE OTHER...
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| 01:17:31 |
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HISTORY MANY DECADES LATER IN VIEW OF MISS MODESTY? >> OH, BOY, GREAT QUESTIONS. I THINK WHAT I WOULD ASK HIM MAYBE ABOUT HIS PRESIDENCY IS TALK...
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| 01:17:56 |
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EVERYBODY WONDERS IF LINCOLN HADN'T BEEN KILLED POWLEDWOULED THINGS BE DIFFERENT. BUT PERMLY IF I HAD AN HOUR, I WOULD SAY TO HIM, PLEASE TELL ME SOME...
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| 01:20:45 |
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HE LIKED TO SIT IN. A DESK HE SAT IN AND THEN A TABLE THEY WOULD BE
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| 01:20:49 |
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ARRANGED IN TERMS OF PRIMACY. SECRETARY OF STATE CLOSEST TO THE PRESIDENT. SECRETARY NEXT, IN TERMS OF WHICH OFFICE WAS MOST POWERFUL. BUT THE INCREDIBLE...
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| 01:22:39 |
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THROUGH WHICH MIGHT BE PARALYZING. BUT THEY WON'T HAVE A DIARY ENTRY OR LETTER. IF YOU'RE KEEPING A DIARY, MAYBE SOMETIMES YOU'RE THINKING OF HISTORY,
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| 01:22:50 |
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BUT MOSTLY YOU'RE WRITING YOUR RAW EMOTIONS AND READING THEM AS A HIS TOR CAN 150 YEARS LATER AND YOU REALLY CAN FEEL WHAT THEY WERE FEELING AT THAT...
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| 01:24:30 |
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OPINION ON
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| 01:24:32 |
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SOMETHING. IN ARTICLE V OF THE
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| 01:24:34 |
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CONSTITUTION IT SAYS THERE
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| 01:24:35 |
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ARE ONLY TWO GROUPS OF AMERICANS THAT CAN PROPOSE CHANGE TO THE COUNTRY. AND ONE IS CONGRESS AND THE OTHER IS -- RIGHT NOW THERE'S A FEDERAL LAWSUIT...
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| 01:25:30 |
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WHY WE HAVE SO FEW CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS. BUT THEY CAN BE SO IMPORTANT. THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES OF OUR GOVERNMENT, THE 10 BILL OF RIGHTS WERE AMENDMENTS....
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| 01:26:19 |
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AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS, THEY WERE THE ONE WHO IS
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| 01:26:22 |
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ESTABLISHED THIS FANTASTIC GOVERNMENT AND THEY WERE REMEMBERED IN MOUNTAINS AND RIVERS AND STREAMS. AND HE THOUGHT THERE'S NOTHING LEFT FOR OUR...
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| 01:27:32 |
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THEIR RANKS. HE WOULD VISIT THEM IN THE HOSPITAL. SOMEHOW
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| 01:27:36 |
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IT BUOYED THEIR SPIRITS AND BUOYED HIS IN
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| 01:27:41 |
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TURNL. THE AMAZING TRIPS, AS THIS INDICATED TO THE SOLDIERS, WERE SO IMPORTANT TO THE SOLDIERS WHEN LINCOLN RANG AGAIN IN 1864, AGAINST GENERAL MCCLELLAN,...
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| 01:28:50 |
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I DO INDEED. I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. I FIRST MET SPIELBERG IN 2000 WHEN HE WAS WORKING ON A DOCUMENTARY ON THE MILLENNIUM AND HE PUT TOGETHER A...
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| 01:29:05 |
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SAID HE WOULD LIKE ONE SOMEDAY TO MAKE A MOVIE ON LINCOLN. SO EARLY ON, HE OPTIONED THE
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| 01:29:11 |
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RIGHTS TO MY BOOK BEFORE HE I EVEN FINISHED IT. AND TWO SCRIPT WRITERS WERE PUT TO WORK ON IT. THE FIRST ONE, JOHN LOGAN, HE WROTE "THE AVIATOR" AND...
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| 01:30:10 |
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VOICE, YOU WERE AWARE
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| 01:30:11 |
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OF HOW AWKWARD HE LOOKS. BUT ONCE HE STARTED SPEAKING, HE SPOKE WITH SUCH CONVENTION THAT SUDDENLY HIS VOICE BECAME LOUDER AND HIS WHOLE ENERGY WAS SEEN...
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| 01:30:58 |
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CORPORATIONS
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| 01:31:02 |
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CITATION EARLIER AND GIVE YOU WHAT THAT CITATION IS. THAT WAS IN A LETTER TO COLONEL WILLIAM S. ELKINS IN
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| 01:31:10 |
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1864. AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT OF THAT LETTER, IF I
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| 01:31:13 |
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MIGHT READ IT IS "WE MIGHT
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| 01:31:16 |
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CONGRATULATE OURSELVES THAT THIS CRUEL WAR IS NEARING ITS END. IT HAS COST TREASURE AND BLOOD AND IT'S A TRYING HOUR FOR THE REPUBLIC. I SEE IN THE...
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| 01:32:43 |
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TO THAT. THAT'S IN A FAMOUS SPEECH HE MADE.
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| 01:32:46 |
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SO THERE'S NO QUESTION I THINK THAT HE WOULD HAVE A SENSE -- I MEAN, HE'S OBVIOUSLY IN THE AGE BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, BEFORE YOU'VE GOT...
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| 01:33:31 |
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OF LIKE I AM RIGHT NOW WITH A COMPUTER ON
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| 01:33:34 |
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MY LAP. I LOOK NOW AT THAT CHASE LOUNGE AND -- CHAISSE LOUNGE AND I FEEL SAD BECAUSE I LOST THE FOCUS, BECAUSE MY HUSBAND WORKS AS WELL IN THE HOM. HE...
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| 01:35:37 |
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IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING MAGIC ABOUT HISTORY I HAD A GREAT HISTORY TEACHER IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT MADE THAT A DEEPER LOVE. AND I CAME TO...
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| 01:37:12 |
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ONE OF THEM. SO THAT WAS JUST PURE RESEARCH. AND THAT'S FUN, TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST LEARNING
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| 01:37:16 |
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THE WHOL TIME. BUT THEN I REMEMBER READING AN ESSAY BY BARBARA TUCKMAN SAYING DON'T WAIT TOO LONG TO WRITE. BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG YOU MIGHT GET...
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| 01:38:53 |
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LONGER THAN WORLD WAR II WAS FOUGHT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT
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| 01:38:56 |
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MUCH TIME WITH THEM OR LIVE WITH THEM DAY BY DAY, YOU BETTER ENJOY THEIR COMPANY. AND SO, TOO, WITH LINCOLN. I MEAN, I READ AN ESSAY ONE TIME BY A GREAT...
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| 01:41:12 |
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30'S. AND HE WAS SUCH AN ATHLETIC OUTGOING PERSON BEFORE THAT IN HIS PHYSICAL ACTIVITY. SO BEFORE HE WOULD GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, HE LATER SAID HE WOULD...
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| 01:41:23 |
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AT HYDE PARK AND THERE WAS A BIG SLEDDING HILL BEHIND HIS HOUSE AND HE WOULD AS A BOY GO TO THE TOP OF THE HILL, FLY DOWN THAT HILL ON A SLED AND THEN...
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| 01:42:14 |
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PRESIDENCY AND SADLY HAD A STROKE
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| 01:42:15 |
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DURING HIS LAST YEARS AS A WAR AND WENT HOME TO SUMMERVILLE. THAT'S ONE OF THE SAD PIECES OF HIS LIFE BECAUSE -- I FELT SAD THAT HE DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH...
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| 01:43:01 |
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WASHINGTON HE WANTED THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM AT EVERY MOMENT. HE LOVED TO TALK AND LOVED TELLING STORIES. SO HE MADE THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE WHITE HOUSE...
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| 01:43:17 |
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CHURCHILL COMES AND SPENDS WEEKS AT A TIME. HARRY HOPKINS, HIS FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR. PRINCESS MARTHA WHO'S IN EXILE DURING THE WAR STAYS UP THERE WITH...
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| 01:44:59 |
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| 01:45:00 |
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WITH. -- DEBUTANTE BALLS WITH. HER MOTHER WAS SO BEAUTIFUL. SHE MADE ELEANOR FEEL BAD FOR NOT HAVING A PRETTY FACE. BUT SHE WENT TO A BOARDING SCHOOL...
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| 01:45:55 |
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LUCY RUTHERFORD. AT THE TIME LUCY MERCER. A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN A CLASSY WOMAN AND IT SEEMS FRANKLIN FELL FOR HER. AT THAT TIME, ELEANOR WAS NOT VERY...
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| 01:46:08 |
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CONTEND WITH IN SARA ROOSEVELT WHO HAD TAKEN CONTROL REALLY OF THE KIDS AND OF THE FAMILY. AND SHE HAD LOST A LOT OF HER ZEST THAT SHE HAD HAD WHEN...
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| 01:48:31 |
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VERY GREAT PRIDE IN YOU, ANNA. HE TOLD ME SO OFTEN AND WITH SUCH FEELING OF ALL THAT YOU HAD MEANT. MY LOVE TO YOU, ANNA, DARLING, BECAUSE YOU ARE...
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| 01:49:08 |
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HER AND THE COUNTRY AND HER PARTNERSHIP GAVE HER A STAGE SHE NEVER WOULD HAVE HAVE. AND PEOPLE WOULD TELL HER HOW MUCH THEY LOVED HER HUSBAND, CONDUCTORS,...
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| 01:50:06 |
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THOUGHT I'LL BEAT THIS THING. I BEAT POLIO SO I'LL BEAT THIS. BUT I THINK EVEN WITHOUT HIS FULL HEALTH,
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| 01:50:12 |
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SINCE HE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WAR, HE HAD SEEN IT UP TO THAT POINT, HE WANTED TO SEE IT THROUGH. MY GUESS IS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT...
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| 01:50:56 |
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ILL TO NOT THINK
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| 01:50:57 |
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ABOUT THIS GUY WHO WAS REPLACING HIM. WE'RE LUCKY THAT HARRY TRUMAN WAS HARRY TRUMAN AND BECAME SUCH A GREAT PRESIDENT. >> OUR NEXT CALL, HIGHLAND BEACH,...
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| 01:51:26 |
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THE POLICIES THAT HAD TO
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| 01:51:30 |
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BE KIND OF CAMOUFLAGED IN A WAY IN ORDER TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE PEOPLE AND CONGRESS. IN LINCOLN'S CASE, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, HE WAS FIGHTING A WAR TO PRESERVE...
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| 01:53:15 |
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JUSTICE IN THE WORLD. EVEN IN THE EARLY
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| 01:53:17 |
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DAYS BEFORE PEARL HARBOR, HE WOULD TALK ABOUT IF WE COULD AID BRITAIN THEN THEY WOULD HOLD OUT AGAINST GERMANY AND IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER FOR US NOT...
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| 01:53:49 |
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YOU'RE. YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE LEADING A PARADE AND YOU LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDERS AND NOBODY IS FOLLOWING YOU. HE REALIZED YOU HAVE TO MOVE STEP BY STEP...
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| 01:55:46 |
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PROBABLY KEPT HIS REPUTATION INTACT IN A WAY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT.
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| 01:55:50 |
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EVEN SAYING THAT, I WOULD SO MUCH RATHER HAVE HAD HIM AND THE COUNTRY WOULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER OFF DEALING
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| 01:55:58 |
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WITH RECONSTRUCTION THAN ANDREW JOHNSON. TO HAVE HIM WITH THAT MUCH GREATER SENSE OF EMPATHY TOWARDS THE SOUTH. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PROTECTING THE RIGHTS...
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| 01:56:46 |
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AS IT TURNED OUT, HOWEVER, HE DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT ANDREW JOHNSON'S CHARACTER AND THE KIND OF LEADER HE WOULD BECOME. IT BECAME SOMEWHAT EVIDENT...
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| 01:56:56 |
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MUCH TO DRINK, HE HADN'T BEEN WELL AND HE GAVE THIS INCREDIBLY RAMBLING SPEECH THAT EVERYBODY WAS PANICKED THAT SUGGESTED HE WOULD NOT BE UP TO THE JOB....
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| 01:57:47 |
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SON TAD WHO WAS 8 AT THE
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| 01:57:50 |
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TIME. WILLIE HAD BEEN ALMOST THE LITTLE LINCOLN. HE COULD WRITE POETRY, HE WAS SENSITIVE. HIS YOUNGER BROTHER HAD A SPEECH DEFECT AN MOST PEOPLE COULDN'T...
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| 01:58:55 |
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EXACTLY WHERE I WENT TO CAT LICK SCHOOL. I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL BUT WOULD GO TO C.C.D. ON WEDNESDAY SUNDAYS AND GOT MY CONFIRMATION ON 1955. THAT...
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| 01:59:15 |
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OF ARTICLE AND BE ABLE TO PLAY AROUND AND SEE THE PLAYERS IN SUCH RELAX SETTINGS. THIS IS WADE BOGGS. AND I ACTUALLY WROTE AN ARTICLE ON HIM ONE YEAR...
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| 01:59:27 |
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TURNED OUT TO BE AN
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| 01:59:29 |
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EXTRAORDINARY STORY. I GOT VERY CLOSE TO HIS SISTER. HE WAS VERY CLOSE TO HIS MOTHER AND HIS SISTER AND HIS FAMILY. AND HIS SISTER HAD MULTIKL SCLEROSIS....
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| 02:01:18 |
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THIS STRATEGY IN 1996. IF THE PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY RUN THIS COUNTRY ARE BIG -- LITTLE D DEMOCRATS, I WOULD BE QUITE SURPRISED OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T...
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| 02:02:37 |
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AND THERE IS
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| 02:02:39 |
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NO "WAR OF THE WORLDS" HAS CONTINUALLY CENTRALIZED POWER IN THE EXECUTIVE. IT HAPPENED IN WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II AND IT'S HAPPENED IN RECENT YEARS...
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| 02:04:02 |
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HE TALKS ABOUT ELECTRICITY COMING TO RURAL -- IT'S MAGICAL. AS HE KEEPS GOING ALONG, HE'S JUST UNDERSTOOD LYNDON JOHNSON. JOHNSON MAY WANT HAVE LIKED...
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| 02:04:15 |
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HIM. BUT HE WOULD BE PROUD KNOWING A MAN OF HIS STATURE HAS BEEN WORKING ON HIM. I ALWAYS HAVE THIS FEAR IN THE AFTER LIFE THERE WILL BE A PANEL OF...
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| 02:05:03 |
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HOW OR WHY WAS FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT SO EFFECTIVE DURING WORLD WAR II AND THE COUNTRY WAS SO UNIFIED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE QUAGMIRE...
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| 02:05:41 |
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HAD AUXILIARY FIRE AND BLOOD DRIVES AND HAD PEOPLE BUYING BOMBS EVEN IF IT WASN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO RAISE MONEY. HE HAD ALUMINUM DRIVES AND...
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| 02:07:46 |
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WITH A HUSBAND THAT WAS AN OLDER MAN. SHE DOTED
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| 02:07:51 |
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ON HILL. SHE TOOK HIM OUT OF SCHOOL AND DIDN'T LET HIM GO, AND HE NEVER GOT ALONG EASILY WITH MEN OF HIS OWN AGE. NONETHELESS, ONCE HE GOT MARRIED...
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| 02:08:55 |
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GREAT SHOW. THANK YOU VERY
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| 02:08:58 |
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MUCH. LINCOLN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU FOUND SOMETHING THAT MIGHT INDICATE SUCH. HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN BISEXUAL OR GAY?...
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| 02:09:32 |
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YOURS, FOREVER, LINCOLN. BUT MEN'S RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OTHER WERE MUCH MORE INTENSE AND WOMEN'S ALSO AND SLEEPING IN THE SAME BED WAS NOT ANYTHING...
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| 02:11:54 |
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THEN I'LL HANG UP. NUMBER ONE, WHAT WAS THE DEAL WITH GENERAL MCCLELL
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| 02:11:59 |
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LAND? FOR THE SUPREME COMMANDER, HE CERTAINLY SEEMED VERY HELPFUL TO THE SOUTH AND THEN HE RAN AGAINST HIM, WAS HE A
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| 02:12:08 |
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HIGH-LEVEL SABOTEUR?
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| 02:12:10 |
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AND TWO, HOW CONCERNED WAS LINCOLN ABOUT THE GATHERING STRENGTH OF THE OLD COLONIAL POWERS? THERE WERE ENGLISH TROOPS IN -- WAS HE CONCERNED THE...
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| 02:12:47 |
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GOVERNMENT. SO IT IF -- IF IT PROVED ORDINARY PEOPLE COULDN'T GOVERN THEMSELVES, IT WAS GOOD FOR THEM. THE WEALTHY IN MANY WAYS WERE SUPPORTING...
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| 02:13:55 |
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TO LEAVE THE WIGS BEFORE
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| 02:13:56 |
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HE BECAME A REPUBLICAN. HE WOULD STAY WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT TRY TO MOVE IT IN
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| 02:14:02 |
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A PROGRESSIVE FASHION SO THAT IT DID CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T HAVE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY AND DID CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WERE POOR. HE ONCE SAID...
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| 02:14:12 |
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FOR INDIVIDUALS WHAT THEY COULD NOT DO SO WELL FOR HIMSELFS. SO I THINK HE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY. I THINK HE WOULD PROBABLY TRY AND MAKE...
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| 02:14:48 |
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WHEN THE MANSLAUGHTER PACE
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| 02:14:51 |
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PROCLAMATION WAS INTRODUCED. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE TROUBLE WITH HIM AS A GENERAL, WHICH LINCOLN SHOULD HAVE SEEN EARLIER THAN HE DID WAS HE WAS GREAT...
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| 02:18:07 |
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WRITING A BOOK ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS? >> YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NEXT, AND THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IS THAT...
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| 02:18:30 |
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WHEN LINCOLN LEFT IT STILL NEEDED THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT TO COMPLETE THE MANSLAUGHTER PACE -- COMPLETE THE I MEAN MANSLAUGHTER PACE ROCK LA MAFPLGTSE...
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| 02:19:27 |
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OUR FREE ENTERPRISE CAPITALIST SYSTEM? >> WELL, I THINK WHAT THE DEMOCRATS STILL STAND FOR IS THE IDEA THAT GOVERNMENT CAN AID PEOPLE IN AREAS WHERE...
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| 02:19:51 |
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IT'S TRULY FREE TO BE THERE, OUR SYSTEM IS BUILT UPON THAT. BUT IN SOME CASES THAT FREE ENTERPRISE DOESN'T REALLY BECOME FREE AND THEY HAVE TO...
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| 02:21:44 |
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WAS OBVIOUSLY INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING
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| 02:21:47 |
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THAT. JOHNSON GOT SUCH ENORMOUS PLEASURE FOR KNOWING HE HAD DONE SOMETHING THAT WOULD STAND THE TEST OF TIME THAT HE BECAME A REAL CIVIL RIGHTS ADVOCATE,...
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| 02:23:37 |
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WHILE. >> GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
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| 02:23:40 |
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OAKLAND, YOU WITH US? CALLER: YES. I GREW UP IN BROOKLYN AND WENT TO ST. PAUL'S CATHOLIC SCHOOL. THE NONES ALSO LOVED THE BROOKLYN DODGERS. >> NO KIDDING?...
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| 02:23:59 |
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TWO QUESTIONS. 2001 PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER PERMANENTLY SEALING OFF FROM THE PUBLIC ALL PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS GOING BACK TO REAGAN....
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| 02:24:12 |
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DOCUMENTS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE
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WHITE HOUSE. WILL THIS AFFECT THE WORK OF
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| 02:24:18 |
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HISTORIENS LIKE YOURSELF AND SECOND, LINGEN WAS A BRILLIANT PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE HE WROTE MOST OF HIS OWN SPEECHES. BUT DID LINCOLN DEPEND ON ANY ONE...
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| 02:24:54 |
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A LONG TIME FOR THEM TO BE DESCRIBED AND PUT INTO THE PUBLIC AVAILABLITY. EVENTUALLY THEY'LL BE OPENED UP, BUT BY THAT TIME THE IMMEDIACY OF THE EVENTINGS...
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| 02:25:57 |
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THAT MAN, PROTECT HAD THIS MAN. SHE WAS WORKING ON HER OWN MEMOIR AND WELCOMED, I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE MY COMING DOWN
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| 02:26:07 |
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THERE. LYNDON JOHNSON NEEDED SOMEONE BY HIS SIDE EVERY MOMENT. SO WHEN I WAS THERE I'D LIKE TO THINK SHE FELT FREE GO SHOPPING BECAUSE I COULD KEEP...
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| 02:26:56 |
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PERSON'S HOME THE NEXT DAY
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| 02:26:57 |
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AS A MAKEUP. BUT HE WOULD TEASE ME. HE WOULD CALL ME A LEFTY AND A PINKO AND THINK I WAS PART OF THAT YOUNGER GENERATION THAT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY...
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| 02:27:46 |
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TO -- THESE SAME PRO FASCISTS ARE FINANCING THE HITLER WAR MACHINE IN GERMANY FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEFEATING THE COMMUNISTS, AND THE COMMUNISTS EVENTUALLY...
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| 02:28:29 |
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OUR SIDE THAT THERE WERE FIGHT INS EUROPE BETWEEN COMMUNISTS AND FASCISTS, AND THERE WERE FIGHTS HERE AND I THINK THE WORLD WAS SO MUCH BETTER OFF,...
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| 02:29:29 |
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FOR THE CALL. SAN DIEGO YOU'RE NEXT. CALLER: THANK YOU, C-SPAN FOR PUTTING THIS ON. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I THINK I SPENT MORE TIME...
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| 02:29:49 |
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CALL. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A DOCUMENTARY ON JUNE 236, 1967, PRESIDENT JOHNSON HAD COME TO LOS ANGELES TO KICK OFF HIS DEMOCRATIC FUNDRAISER. FOR HIS...
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| 02:30:06 |
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SO YOU'RE REALLY AN INSPIRATION FOR ME IN THE WAY THAT YOU STICK WITH A STORY FOR SO LONG IN THAT YOU EMBODYY THE PERSON. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS DO YOU...
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| 02:31:28 |
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TO ARMY CAMPS
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| 02:31:30 |
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AND NOT ABLE TO BE AS FREE AS HE WAS AND I'M SURE HE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO HIS FEELING THAT IF HE WERE TO GO AROUND CAMPAIGNING. IT WAS SO HARD FOR...
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| 02:33:04 |
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RAMSEY CLARK, AND HE WANTS TO PUT RAMSEY CLARK ON THE COURT AND GETS TOM CLARK OFF. HE MOST IMPORTANTLY WANT TO GET TOM CLARK OFF THERE SO HE
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| 02:33:16 |
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CAN APOINT IF FIRST BLACK AMERICAN TO THE COURT. HE SAYS IT CAN'T HAPPEN IF YOUR FATHER'S ON THE COURT BECAUSE IT WILL BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST....
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| 02:34:05 |
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HOLE INSIDE TO BE FILLED BY APPLAUSE OF PEOPLE. WHERE EVERYBODY GOES UP AND DOWN IN REPUTATION. EVEN THE BEST PRESIDENTS GO THROUGH TOUGH ERAS. IF...
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| 02:34:24 |
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POWER TO OFFER HIM SOMETHING. NOW HE DID HAVE LARGER GOALS IN MIND BUT UNTIL THAT TIME HE SEEMED TO BE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO JUST NEEDED TO HAVE THAT...
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| 02:35:04 |
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JENTS, AND THEN ARE YOU GOING TO COME AND DO A
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| 02:35:07 |
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BOOK SIGNING HERE? >> YES. TO DO A BOOK SIGNING AT THE NEW LIBRARY. I WAS THERE AT THE GROUNDBREAKING WITH 2K5EU6ED DONALD. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE...
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| 02:35:30 |
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CAREFUL YOU DON'T GET DESTROYED BY THAT. STEWARD HAD A DAUGHTER NAMED FANNY WHO WAS 16 AND HER DIARY IS WONDERFUL. SHE KEEPS IT UNTIL SHE'S 21 AND...
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| 02:37:15 |
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AGES. IT'S ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS JUST AS THOSE PICTURES, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE THERE. AFTER HE WAS ASSASSINATED, THEY CARRIED HIM TO THE PETERSON HOUSE...
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| 02:37:32 |
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IN THE END MORE PEOPLE CLAIMED THEY WERE THERE THAN WERE ACTUALLY THERE. SO YOU CAN QUITE IMAGINE WHATEVER WAS SAID THAT NIGHT GETS REPORTED THROUGH...
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| 02:38:17 |
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BURNS IS SUCH A PASSIONATE AND ENTHUSIASTIC CHARACTER THAT HE MAKES EVERYTHING COME ALIVE. HE CAME TO SEE ME BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE MAKING...
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| 02:38:40 |
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IDEA. WE TALKED FOR MAYBE AN HOUR OR 1 1/2 HOURS AND SO I TOLD HIM EVERYTHING ABOUT OLD BOYFRIENDS I HAD LIED TO OR GIVEN UP BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE...
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| 02:40:35 |
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CONTRAST BETWEEN LINCOLN, WHO HAD VERY LITTLE FORMAL EDUCATION,
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| 02:40:39 |
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CERTAINLY NO WEALTH OR PRIVILEGE IN HIS BACKGROUND WHO WROTE INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL SPEECHES AND LETTERS, MANY WHICH HAVE BEEN QUOTED THIS AFTERNOON,
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| 02:40:49 |
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AND THE CURRENT CHIEF EXECUTIVE WHO COMES FROM A BACKGROUND OF WEALTH AND PRIVILEGE. PRIVATE SCHOOL, YALE UNIVERSITY, WHO SEEMS UNABLE TO EVEN WRITE...
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| 02:41:35 |
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READ SHAKESPEARE AND THE BIBLE, POETRY, SO THESE CADENCES GOT INTO HIS SOUL AND HEART AND HE OBVIOUSLY HAD GREAT NATURAL TALENT TO BECOME SUCH A...
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| 02:43:42 |
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HOW I THOUGHT SHE WOULD NEVER DIE, AND SHE HAD DIED IN HER SLEEP THAT NIGHT. WHEN YOU'RE A CHILD, 15 YEARS OLD, THE HARDEST THING IS YOU CAN'T IMAGINE...
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| 02:43:55 |
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WAS THERE. I HAD THIS WONDERFUL MIDDLE SISTER WHO CAME AND STAYED HOME WITH OUR FAMILY. SHE WAS A NURSE IN NEW YORK AT THE TIME SO SHE COULD HELP TAKE...
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| 02:45:00 |
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CHILD? CALLER: MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THERE WAS SUCH ANIMOSITY BETWEEN LYNDON JOHNSON AND ROBERT
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| 02:45:08 |
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KENNEDY? WAS IT POLITICAL DIFFERENCES OR PERSONALITIES? OR PERSONAL PROBLEMS? AND SECONDLY, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED -- I LOVED YOUR BOOK WITH THE FITZGERALDS...
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| 02:45:48 |
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LEFT OUT OF THE LOOP ON SO MANY DECISIONS KENNEDY WAS MAKING AND HE SOME HOW DIDN'T WANT TO BLAME KENNEDY, IN FACT JACK KENNEDY AND LYNDON JOHNSON...
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| 02:48:00 |
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LEADERSHIP WE HAD IN THE 1960E'S. BUT I SUSPECT THE TIMES HAVE JUST MADE IT THAT MUCH HARDER. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MUCH ANYWHERE SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT...
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| 02:49:58 |
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ANCESTOR OF MINE WHO REPORTEDLY WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF MARY LINCOLN'S. >> YES. DEFINITELY THERE WAS A LINKEN WE GOMAN AND HE SUPPORTED MARY A LITTLE...
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| 02:50:24 |
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RECORDS. I THINK YOU'LL FIND YOUR ANCESTOR A FUNNY CHARACTER. SHE WAS MARRIED TO ABRAHAM LINCOLN. THE NORTHERNERS DISTRUSTED HER BECAUSE SHE HAD...
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| 02:52:16 |
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WITH EVERYONE. SO SHE DECIDED TO HAVE THIS
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| 02:52:20 |
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INI HAVE IATION-ONLY BALL. RIGHT BEFORE THE EVENT, BOTH HER SONS WILLY AND TED GOT SICK AND SHE THOUGHT SHE SHOULD CANCEL THE BALL BUT LINCOLN DECIDED...
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| 02:53:57 |
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THOSE VOICES LATER. AND THEY GET DESCRIBED. SO THE GENERAL IDEA OF TRANSCRIBING HISTORY IS A GREAT IDEA. I REMEMBER WHEN THEIR HUSBANDS CAME HOME...
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| 02:55:30 |
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RESEARCH YOU'VE DONE ON THE MANY PRESIDENTS, WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY OF THE FATAL FLAWS IN THEIR PRESIDENCIES? I'M PARTICULARLY...
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| 02:56:08 |
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GIVEN HIM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT TO DO IN THE WAR, THERE WAS THAT NATURAL TENDENCY TO SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH YOU AND IT...
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| 02:56:57 |
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I TEASED HE SEEMED EVEN SEXY
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| 02:57:02 |
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BEFORE THE BEARD HE GREW TO PLEASE A LITTLE GIRL. AND THERE'S ONE I THINK ON PAGE 200, HE'S GOT A RUGGED FACE AND MAY BE I LIKE DISSHEVALED HAIR....
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| 02:58:09 |
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WE'RE
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.