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HIS INAUGURATION IN MARCH OF 1877. THIS IS THE FAMOUS DISPUTED ELECTION OF 1876-1877. HE DID NOT HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES THAT WERE CAST. HE WAS...
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THE CITY OF CINCINNATI, WHICH
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MEANS CINCINNATI'S LAWYER BUT WASN'T AN ELECTED OFFICE BUT WENT INTO THE CIVIL WAR AND BECAME A CONGRESSMAN AFTER THE CIVIL WAR FOR -- HE WAS ELECTED...
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TERMS AND HE BECAME GOVERNOR OF OHIO AND WAS ELECTED
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GOVERNOR THREE TIMES. >> WHY DIDN'T HE -- WHY DID HE SERVE TWO FULL TERMS? >> HE RAN FOR GOVERNOR -- HE RESIGNED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR AND HE WAS ELECTED...
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IN THEIR POST PRESIDENTIAL
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CAREERS. >> RESEMBLED THE MOST. HAYES
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BECAME INVOLVED IN CAUSES IN THE UNITED STATES. HE WAS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN EDUCATION
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MOVEMENTS TO EDUCATE SOUTHERNERS, POOR SOUTHERNERS, MOSTLY BLACK CHILDREN, THIS WOULD BE. PARTICIPATE IN TWO FUNDS, A PUBERTY FUND AND
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THE SLATER FUND. HE WAS HEAD OF THE SLATER FUND AND MONEY WAS USED FROM THE SLATER FUND TO HELP EDUCATE BLACKS IN THE SOUTH. HE WAS ALSO IN FAVOR OF...
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INTANGIBLE, IMMEASURE RABBLE, AND
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UNKNOWABLE WHICH HAD THE
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WHISKERS, WHICH HAS THE BURN SIDES, WHICH IS WHICH? WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO LEAD WITH THAT? >> BECAUSE THE GUILDED AGE PRESIDENTS AREN'T ANONYMOUS AS...
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BEARD? THE ANSWER IS YES, HE DID. HE HAD THE VERY FULL BEARD. BUT MOST PEOPLE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CRISP, CLEAR IDEA OF HAYES UNLESS IT'S IN CONNECTION...
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ZPHESTIC POLITIC -- DOMESTIC POLITICS AND TO A LARGE EXTENT
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AFTER THE END OF RECONSTRUCTION AFTER 1877. >> 1867, IT WAS -- 1868, THE ELECTION? >> 1876? >> YES, RIGHT. >> 1876 -- THE CENT TEN Y'ALL YEAR, THAT...
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IN A POLITICAL
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SENSE. THE SCANDALS BROKE,
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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS
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IN DISARRAY. A -- A GREAT DEPRESSION
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HAS -- HAD BEGUN
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FOLLOWING THE PANIC
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OF 1873, A COUNTRY PLUNGED INTO A DEPRESSION. SO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS IN DEEP TROUBLE -- IN DEEP TROUBLE BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION, ACCUSATIONS OF CORRUPTION,...
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CURIOUS COMBINATION OF AN AMBITIOUS MAN AND
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YET A MAN THAT KEPT HIS AMBITIONS IN CHECK. AND HE -- HE REALLY -- HE'S REALLY PERFECTLY HAPPY TO GO
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HOME TO --
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TO HIS HOME BY -- IN FREEMONT, OHIO AND READ BOOKS AND THEN CAMPAIGN FOR SOCIAL CAUSES. I FORGOT TO MENTION ONE OF THE SOCIAL CAUSES HE WAS INTERESTED...
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QUEENS. QUEENS, NEW YORK, I DIDN'T REALLY MOVE VERY
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FAR FROM QUEENS TO BROOKLYN ALTHOUGH I DID A LOT OF THINGS IN BETWEEN, ACTUALLY. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN BROOKLYN COLLEGE? >> 26 YEARS. >> AND...
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DO A BIOGRAPHY ON
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RUTHERFORD B. HAYES? >> I DID A DISSERTATION ON REFORM. AND HAYES IS A VERY IMPORTANT FIGURE IN THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM MOVEMENT. THE --
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THE SUBJECT OF HAYS
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ACTUALLY CAME TO ME
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RATHER THAN ME TO IT. THE UNIVERSITY PRESS OF KANSAS HAS A SERIES OF PRESIDENTIAL
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ADMINISTRATIONS, AND THEY ASKED ME TO DO THE ONE ON HAYES BECAUSE OF MY INTEREST IN HAYES, BECAUSE OF THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM. I DID THAT AND BECAME...
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PARK.
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I WENT TO A SMALL NEW ENGLAND COLLEGE, UNION COLLEGE, THEN I WENT TO GRADUATE SCHOOL AT COLUMBIA
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WHICH WAS -- THAT, FOR ME, WAS THE KEY -- KEY MOVE. I STUDIED WITH
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DAVID DONALD, DAVID HERBERT DONALD, THE CHARLES SUMMER IN AUTHOR AND DAVID DONALD IS A GREAT HISTORIAN, A GREAT STYLIST, BUT A GREAT TEACHER. HE JUST...
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SHE WRITES COLUMNS FOR TV UPDATE AND THINGS LIKE
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THAT ON -- ON VARIOUS -- TV PERSONALITIES. AND SHE -- SHE WRITES VERY WELL. AND SHE -- SHE ALSO HAS -- WAS A HISTORY MAJOR AND KNOWS HER HISTORY EXTREMELY...
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LIBRARY AT THE HAYES PRESIDENTIAL CENTER IS REALLY WONDERFUL.
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THE -- HAYES HIMSELF KEPT A DIARY AND KEPT HIS
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CORRESPONDENTS THE HAYES FAMILY GAVE ALL THE PAPERS TO THE LIBRARY OR SET UP THE LIBRARY. IT'S ONLY PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY THAT IS NOT FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL...
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IT START? HE HAD THE HOUSE
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IN FREEMONT, OHIO AND THE PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING THERE. I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I SAW THE PLACE. YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT IT....
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HAYES WENT THERE BECAUSE HIS UNCLE, A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN SETTLED THERE. HAYES WENT THERE -- HAYES GRADUATED FROM COLUMBUS -- FROM --
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HE GRADUATED FROM KENYAN COLLEGE AND HE READ BRIEFLY AT COLUMBUS. HE WENT TO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL. >> IS THIS SARDIS? >> THAT'S SARDIS. HE'S IN FREEMONT...
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AND HAYES WENT
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TO FREEMONT AND BEGAN PRACTICING LAW IN FREEMONT. >> WHO'S THIS? >> THAT'S LUCY -- LUCY WEBB, THE YOUNG -- THE YOUNG LADY OF 16 WHOM HAYES MARRIED...
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HOW DID THEY GET HOOKED UP? >> HE -- SHE
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WENT TO CINCINNATI -- HE ULTIMATELY WENT TO CINCINNATI TO PRACTICE. HE FOUND FREEMONT WAS SIMPLY TOO SMALL A TOWN FOR HIM TO REALLY MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF...
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MARRIED FAIRLY SOON
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AFTER HE ARRIVED IN CINCINNATI. SHE'S THE FIRST -- FIRST LADY TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE. AND MOST FIRST LADIES UP TO THAT -- ALL FIRST LADIES UP TO...
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SHORT WAVE -- BY -- NOT SHORT WAVE, BY TELEGRAPH. >>
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HOW MANY CHILDREN DID HE HAVE? >> I'VE GOT TO START COUNTING NOW. I GUESS HE HAD EIGHT ALTOGETHER AND FIVE SURVIVED INTO ADULTHOOD. >> I FOUND WEBB...
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BERCHARD. MISS ONE? >> ARE WE
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MISSING ONE? THIS IS -- >> THAT'S SEVEN. >> THAT IS -- THIS IS AWFUL IF I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL OF THESE -- ALL THESE KIDS. LET'S SEE, BERCH,
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WEBB, RUDD, FANNIE AND SCOTT ARE THE ONES THAT SURVIVED. AND THEN THERE WAS A --
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MANNING DIED AND
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A JOE
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DIED AND GEORGE DIED. DID I HAVE A GEORGE THERE? >> I HAVE ONE ON THE LIST. >> OK. THOSE ARE THE CHILDREN ANYHOW. >> WHAT IMPACT DO THE CHILDREN HAVE...
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YOUNG, WHEN
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THE HAYESES WERE YOUNG AND BEVERAGE AND WEBB
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WERE LITTLE FELLOWS, THEY WERE MAKING AN AWFUL RACKET AND BEATING DRUMS
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AND THE HAYES SEEMED TO BE PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH ALL OF THE COMMOTION AND TURMOIL. IN FACT HE FELT THAT HE -- HE DIDN'T THINK HE WANTED HIS MOTHER AROUND...
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YES. >> ANDREW JOHNSON. HE WAS A, WHAT, A DEMOCRAT IN THE UNION PARTY? >> YEAH. THEY BALANCED THE TICKET IN 1964. NO ONE EVER EXPECTED THE TRAGEDY...
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BUT HAD -- HAD
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VERY LITTLE SYMPATHY WITH -- WITH THE
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RECONSTRUCTION OBJECTIVES OF THE RADICAL WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> WHEN THE IMPEACHMENT CAME OF ANDREW JOHNSON, WHERE WAS RUTHERFORD HAYES? >>...
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REPUBLICAN, TWO TERMS. >> YES. >> AND RUTHERFORD B. HAYES, HIS
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PARTY WAS -- >> HAYES WAS A REPUBLICAN. AND HAYES WAS -- WAS -- YOU WOULD SAY IN 19TH CENTURY TERM, YOU WOULD SAY THE AVAILABLE MAN
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AND 1876.
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HE HAD RADICAL, IMPECCABLE RADICAL
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CREDENTIALS THE SAME TIME AS THE GOVERNOR OF OHIO. HE WAS A MODERATE. HE -- HE WAS IN
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FAVOR OF CIVIL SERVICE REFORM. HE WAS CERTAINLY AN ANTI-CORRUPTIONIST. HE HAD A TREMENDOUS WAR RECORD AND HE CAME FROM OHIO, WHICH WAS A -- A STATE...
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AND HE --
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HE DID BECOME A GENERAL ULTIMATELY, BUT AS HE SAID, NEVER FOUGHT A BATTLE AS A GENERAL,
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WITH THE TITLE OF GENERAL BECAUSE THE PROMOTION
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OF GENERAL CAME AFTER THE LAST BATTLE AND WAS WOUNDED THE FIFTH TIME, I MIGHT ADD. NO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS SEEN AS MUCH FRONT LINE ACTION...
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TO SET ANY BONES THAT WERE
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SHATTERED. >> NOW THIS PICTURE -- DO YOU REMEMBER THIS ONE? >> YES. THAT'S HIS MEN OF THE 23RD OHIO -- >> WHICH ONE WAS HE? >> HE'S -- THEY'RE ALL BEARDED....
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THAT IS HAYES. >>
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SO FOUR YEARS IN THE ARMY? >> FOUR YEARS IN THE ARMY. AND
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HE -- I SHOULD
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SAY THAT IN THE ARMY, AS A COLONEL, HE
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WAS -- HE
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TYPIFIED IN MANY WAYS THE -- THE VALUE OF
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THE CIVILIAN OFFICES BECAUSE HAYES, AS
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A COLONEL, TENDED TO -- WAS ABLE TO MEDIATE BETWEEN THE WEST POINT-TRAINED HIGHER OFFICERS AND THE VOLUNTEER SOLDIERS AND OFFICES IN THE -- IN THE ARMY....
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WAS BORN IN OHIO. HE GREW UP IN ILLINOIS. BUT HE WAS OHIO-BORN. >> AND JAMES GARFIELD IS FROM
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CLEVELAND? >>
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YES, FAIRLY NEAR CLEVELAND. HE'S UP IN THE WESTERN RESERVE AREA OF OHIO. YES. MENTOR, I GUESS, IS THE NAME OF THE SMALL TOWN THAT HE CAME FROM. >>...
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OHIO BUT HE'S ELECTED FROM INDIANA. >> AND THERE'S WILLIAM MCKINLEY
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FROM OHIO WHO CAME LATER. >> MCKINLEY
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IS IN HAYES' OUTFIT. HE VOLUNTEERED AS A PRIVATE IN THAT 23RD VOLUNTEER REGIMENT. THAT ONE REGIMENT GAVE THE
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UNITED STATES TWO PRESIDENTS. >> WHAT WAS IT ABOUT OHIO BACK
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THEN? >> CRUCIAL STATE. THAT SUMS IT UP. I MENTIONED
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THE AVAILABILITY BEFORE -- THE REPUBLICANS HAD TO CARRY OHIO. THEREFORE A
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NOMINEE FROM OHIO WOULD -- WOULD MAKE SENSE. THE -- NO POINT NOMINATING SOMEBODY FROM PENNSYLVANIA
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BECAUSE PENNSYLVANIA WOULD VOTE REPUBLICAN
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NO MATTER WHO WAS ON THE BALLOT. THAT'S WHY NEW YORK GETS A LOT OF PRESIDENTS TOO BECAUSE IT'S A STATE THAT MUST BE CARRIED AND IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE...
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BUT HE WAS GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. >> AND A DEMOCRAT? >> AND A DEMOCRAT. A VERY SKILLED POLITICIAN, VERY SKILLED AT ORGANIZING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY....
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YES, FOR ALL
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PRACTICAL PURPOSE, YES. >> AND
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WHEN IT WAS ALL OVER, WHO HAD THE MOST VOTE, POPULAR VOTES. >> MOST POPULAR VOTES THAT WERE CAST WERE HAD
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BY TILDON BY A LONG SHOT. THERE ARE PROBABLY 250,000 MORE VOTES. >>
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DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED ALL TOGETHER? >>
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SORRY. COULDN'T TELL YOU, EXACTLY.
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A COUPLE OF MILLION. IT'S NOT A HUGE -- NOT A HUGE ELECT RATE BECAUSE
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WOMEN WEREN'T VOTING. >> SO NO QUESTION, THOUGH, THAT SAMUEL TILDON WON THE POPULARITY CONTEST. >> NO -- NO QUESTION AT ALL ABOUT WINNING
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THE POPULAR VOTE. >> WHAT ABOUT THE ELECTORAL
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VOTE? >> THERE, THE -- TILDON HAD ONE VOTE -- WAS CERTAIN OF ONE VOTE
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LESS THAN HE NEEDED FOR ELECTION.
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HAYES WAS CERTAIN OF
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CONSIDERABLY FEWER VOTES. BUT IF YOU ADDED THE VOTES OF FLORIDA, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND LOUISIANA TO
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HAYES ITOAL, HE WOULD WIN THE ELECTION BY ONE VOTE. ALL TILDON HAD TO DO WAS PICK UP ONE VOTE, ONE ELECTORAL VOTE FROM ANY ONE OF THE THREE STATE, SOUTH...
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WIN. THE REPUBLICANS
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CONTROLLED THE RETURNING BOARDS IN THOSE STATES. AND THEY ALL -- THROUGHOUT ENOUGH DEMOCRATIC VOTES -- THREW OUT ENOUGH DEMOCRATIC VOTES TO GIVE THE...
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THE SENATE WHO COUNTS THE ELECTORAL VOTES. HE COUNTS THE ELECTORAL VOTES BEFORE --
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IN THE PRESENCE OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS. ONLY EXTREMISTS, EXTREME SUPPORTERS OF HAYES SAID THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE COULD COUNT THE VOTES,...
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EXCEPT FOR -- AT ONE
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SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THAT ORIGINALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
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A, DAVID DAVIS FROM
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ILLINOIS. DAVID DAVIS WAS ELECTED AT THE MOMENT OF THE PASSAGE OF
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THE ELECTORAL COMMISSIONS ACT. THEN JUSTICES ON THE COURT, AS THEY WERE
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EMPOWERED BY THE LEGISLATION, SELECTED THE FIFTH MEMBER FROM THE SUPREME COURT AND THAT HAPPENED TO BE A REPUBLICAN. >> HE HAD FIVE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE,...
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MONUMENTAL MISCALCULATION ON THE PART OF DEMOCRATS IN ILLINOIS
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AND TILDON'S NEPHEW
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WHO WAS INVOLVED IN INFLUENCING THE ILLINOIS STATE LEGISLATURE TO ELECT
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DAVID DAVIS. THEY ASSUMED
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THAT DAVID DAVIS WOULD BE BEHOLDEN TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR MAKING HIM SENATOR AND THAT HE WOULD STAY ON THE COMMISSION AND HE WOULD VOTE FOR TILDON...
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BEGAN TRYING TO COUNT THESE VOTES,
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DEBATING OVER THIS THROUGHOUT DECEMBER. THE -- THE COMMISSION BILL PASSES AND IN JANUARY THE VOTE -- THE COUNT BEGINS AND THE COUNT GOES SMOOTHLY, QUICKLY,...
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HE'S A
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SO-CALLED VISITING
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STATESMAN IN THE SOUTH AND
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COUNSELING REPUBLICANS IN LOUISIANA ON THROWING OUT DEMOCRATIC VOTES. AND THEN -- THEN HE'S APPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL AND SAT ON -- SAT ON THE...
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NIXON DID NOT WANT TO CONTEST
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THE ELECTION. PRESIDENTS TODAY AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TODAY HAVE A GOOD DEAL MORE SAY OVER THEIR CAMPAIGNS THAN -- THAN HAYES OR TILDON HAD IN...
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HAYES DECIDED
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NOT TO HAVE ANY IN
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THE WHITE HOUSE WHICH PLEASED HIS
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WIFE WHO, OF COURSE,
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PEOPLE NOW REFER TO AS LEMONADE LUCY. NOBODY REFERRED TO HER AS LEMONADE LUCY AT THE TIME. HAYES MADE THAT DECISION -- HE DIDN'T LIKE TO SEE CONGRESSMEN...
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FUNDS AND HE TOLD THEM TO STOP
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IT. >> THE WOMENS TEMPERANCE CHRISTIAN UNION? >> YES. THERE'S A
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SHREWD POLITICAL ARGUMENT BY HAYES
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BEHIND THIS WHOLE ISSUE. HE FIGURED THAT IF HE MADE THIS KIND OF PUBLIC SPAN THAT REPUBLICAN WHO IS WERE TEMPERANCE MINDED WOULD NOT JOIN THE PROHIBITIONIST...
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WEAK IN -- IT
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WAS AN IMPORTANT THIRD PARTY, BUT IT WAS DEEP IN THE ELECTION IN 1880 IN THE END OF THE HAYES ADMINISTRATION. GARFIELD REINTRODUCED LIQUOR INTO THE...
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AGAINST
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SLAVERY. >> WHERE DID THAT
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COME FROM? >>
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LUCY, TO
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A
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LARGE EXTENT, LUCY HAD
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A -- HAD IN HER FAMILY, THEY WERE ABLISHIST SENTIMENTS AND HAYES HAD ALWAYS BEEN ANTI-SLAVERY BUT NEVER -- NEVER -- NEVER STRONG ENOUGH TO -- TO -- TO...
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ABOUT IT. BUT AFTER HE MARRIED LUCY, HE BEGAN DEFENDING
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RUNAWAY SLAVES. >> SO IN 1876 IN THE RECONSTRUCTION PERIOD. BY THE WAY, HOW LONG DID THE REINSTRUCTION PERIOD GO ON? >> IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WAR AND...
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AN EXAGGERATION. >> WHAT DID IT MEAN? >> THE END OF RECONSTRUCTION
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IN 1877 MEANT THE REMOVAL OF THE FEDERAL TROOPS THAT WERE SUPPORTING REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENTS AT THE CAPITALS OF LOUISIANA, IN NEW ORLEANS AND SOUTH CAROLINA...
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REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENTS SUPPORTED BY FEDERAL TROOPS HAD CONTROL OF A
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FEW SQUARE BLOCKS. THAT'S ABOUT THE EDGE AROUND THE CAPITALS. THE REST OF THE STATES HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OVER BY RIVAL DEMOCRATIC WHITE SUPREMACY...
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DO ABOUT THESE REPUBLICAN REGIMES THAT WERE STILL EXISTING BY A THIN THREAD
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IN BOTH OF THOSE STATES. HIS -- WHAT REALLY -- WHAT REALLY BOILED DOWN TO IS THAT HAYES -- HAYES DID NOT REALLY HAVE A DECISION WHETHER TO WITHDRAWAL...
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BECAME A CARPENTER. WHEN I CAME ALONG, I WAS NAMED
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FOR HIM. IN HOLLAND, THE NAME IS SPELLED ARIE -- A MISTAKE WAS MADE ON A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. MY DAD PERPETUATED THAT AND I PERPETUATED IT AS YOU...
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WHICH REALLY IS A -- THE HISTORY OF
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THE
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ATLANTIC WORLD, AT LEAST THE WAY I TEACH IT IT COMES OUT OF THE HISTORY OF THE ATLANTIC WORLD -- EUROPE AND AMERICA, PRIMARILY, IT'S KIND OF THE INTERPLAY...
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INFLUENCE, I WOULD HAVE VERY WELL MADE A CARPENTER. I WORKED WITH
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MY DAD FOR A GOOD
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DEAL. AND I WORKED IN CONSTRUCTION
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WHEN I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL. I MIGHT VERY WELL NOT HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE AT ALL. BUT SHE WENT TO QUEENS COLLEGE AT THE END OF THE DEPRESSION AND THEN...
00:46:35
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DEMONSTRATE THE PHONOGRAPH
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TO
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RUTHERFORD B. HAYES? >> YES.
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YES. HE WAS IN TOWN. HAYES HEARD HE WAS IN TOWN AND HAYES GOT HIM TO COME TO THE WHITE HOUSE. HE CAME LATE IN THE EVENING AND THEN
00:46:48
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HAYES -- HAYES AWAKENED HIS WIFE AND THEIR GUESTS -- THEY ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF GUESTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN THEY WERE THERE.
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THEY WERE VERY OPEN -- WESTERN OPEN HOSPITALITY AND LUCY ALWAYS HAD A BEVY OF YOUNG WOMEN FROM OHIO. LUCY WAS VERY, VERY JOLLY, CHEERFUL PERSON. AND...
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OUT IDEAS AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THEM.
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BUT LATER ON IN LIFE, HE READ EMERSON AND EMERSON'S ESSAYS MANY TIMES. >> DID HE KNOW HIM? >> YES, HE DID. HE MET EMERSON IN CINCINNATI AS A YOUNG...
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MEMORY JUST SIMPLY WASN'T
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WHAT IT WAS. AND TESTIFYING TO THIS SOME MENTAL DETERIORATION THERE WHICH MADE HAYES FEEL VERY BADLY. BUT UP UNTIL HAYES' DEATH, HE WOULD READ AND REREAD...
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FALL.
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HE -- HE USED THESE -- HE DIDN'T CAMPAIGN HE WOULDN'T
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CAMPAIGN FOR INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES,
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BUT HE WOULD PREACH THE PARTICULAR DOCTRINES, POLICIES THAT HE WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF. AND WOULD -- WOULD GIVE THESE RATHER SHORT SPEECHES, SOUND...
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TRAVEL -- HE TRAVELED FIRST PRESIDENT TRAVELED TO CALIFORNIA TO --
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TO PUT ACROSS HIS -- THE POLICIES
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THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF. AND OTHERS -- WHAT HE TRIED TO DO WAS -- HE ANTICIPATED PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS OF THE 20TH
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CENTURY. AND IN MANY WAYS HE -- WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THIS ABOUT A LOT OF PRESIDENTS. THIS IS THE FIRST MODERN PRESIDENT. HE -- HE FOUGHT BATTLES...
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OF WEALTH. HE WAS VERY MUCH IN
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FAVOR OF THE TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN -- WITH A SMALL
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R -- VALUES,
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OF POLITICAL EQUALITY, EQUALITY OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, POLITICAL EQUALITY FOR EVERYBODY, EQUALITY FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S...
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PARTY THAT ENDED SLAVERY AND
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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT
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BACKED RECONSTRUCTION. REPUBLICANS HAVE BECOME A GOOD DEAL MORE CONSERVATIVE IN THE
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20TH CENTURY. >> WHAT WAS JAMES GARFIELD LIKE? >> GARFIELD WAS NOT QUITE AS COMMITTED AS HAYES WAS TO -- TO -- TO THE -- TO EQUALITY OF ECONOMIC...
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SIX
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MONTHS? >> HE WAS ONLY IN FOR SIX MONTHS BUT HE GRIEVOUSLY WOUNDED FOR A COUPLE OF THE MONTHS. >> WHAT WAS THE REACTION ON THE PART OF RUTHERFORD B....
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TO -- >> HE WAS IN
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OHIO. HE WAS BACK HOME AND HE FELT DREADFUL. HE WAS -- ACTUALLY HE WAS ANNOYED AT GARFIELD BECAUSE
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GARFIELD WAS BACKTRACKING ON CIVIL SERVICE REFORM WHICH HAYES HAD SCORED
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SOME NOTICEABLE ADVANCES BY INSTITUTING REFORM IN "THE NEW YORK POST"
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OFFICE AND CUSTOM
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HOUSE. AND BY THE WAY, IT'S THE SUCCESS OF CIVIL SERVICE REFORM IN THOSE TWO wzFFICES UNDER HAYES' AUSPICES THAT ENABLED THE REFORMERS TO SAY THE SYSTEM...
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REALLY EXPECTED TO. BUT HE DID MAKE THIS CLEAR -- HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT -- THAT HE -- HIS PROGRAM -- AND HE OUTLINED THIS IN
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HIS ACCEPTANCE
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LETTER WHICH WAS HIS STATEMENT OF WHAT HE THOUGHT THE CAMPAIGN SHOULD BE BASED ON,
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THAT HE'S WILLING TO -- TO GIVE HOME RULE TO THE SOUTH AS LONG AS THE SOUTH WOULD ADHERE TO THE 14TH AND 15TH AMENDMENTS. AND HE DID NOT -- HE DIDN'T...
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INSTRUMENTAL IN CHANGING THE NAME. HE VISITED TEXAS IN THOSE YEAR, A COLLEGE MATE, AND SAW SLAVERY FIRSTHAND. >> ELECTED TO CONGRESS WHEN? >> ELECTED...
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HE DID NOT CAMPAIGN. HE WAS CAMPAIGNING IN VIRGINIA. HE DID NOT POLITICALLY CAMPAIGN -- >> IN THE WAR. >> IN THE WAR. HE WAS IN THE WAR. BUT CONGRESS...
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MANY TIMES? >> THREE TIMES. THREE-TERM GOVERNOR. >> HOW LONG? >> TWO-YEAR TERMS. AND THE THIRD TERM INTERRUPTED BY THE PRESIDENCY. AND AS GOVERNOR,...
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IT WAS
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INSTRUMENTAL IN THE PASSAGE OF THE 15TH AMENDMENT. HE PUSHED THAT -- HE PUSHED THAT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE OF OHIO. THAT'S THE VOTING
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RIGHTS
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AMENDMENT, THE BLACK VOTING RIGHTS AMENDMENT. >>
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OHIO
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STATE UNIVERSITY INSTRUMENTAL IN ESTABLISHING IT? AND ONE-TERM PRESIDENT WENT BACK TO SPIEGEL GROVE IN FREEMONT, OHIO. LIVED THERE FOR HOW LONG BEFORE...
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HE HADN'T BEEN IN BED SINCE HIS WOUND, HIS VERY SERIOUS WOUND IN THE CIVIL WAR AND HIS ARM WAS SHATTERED. FROM THEN, HE'D BEEN SICK UNTIL HE HAD THIS...
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THEN HOW LONG DID HIS WIFE, LUCY,
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LIVE? >> SHE DIED A
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COUPLE OF YEARS
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BEFORE HIM? >> OH, SHE DIED -- >>
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SHE DIED IN 1989. HE MISSED HER DREADFULLY. HE WAS VERY MUCH DEVOTED TO HER. AND AS HE SAID, THE LIFE HAS JUST GONE OUT OF THE HOUSE AND PRETTY MUCH...
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LIGHT. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, HE WOULD
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GET INTERESTED IN THESE EDUCATIONAL
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PROJECTS. HE WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN YOUNG PEOPLE. AND HE FOUND HIMSELF
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REFRESHED. >> THIS PHOTOGRAPH ON THE COVER OF THE BOOK IS -- YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE BACKGROUND, HE'S WHAT AGE HERE? >> HE'S PRESIDENT. SO HE'S IN HIS...

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