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WHOSE HOSTILITY. TODAY, WE WILL HEAR FROM TWO PEOPLE WITH IDEAS OF GUN CONTROL, EACH OF THEM, ARNIE GROSSMAN, AND DAVID KOPEL, HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT...
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SHOULD BE ADEQUATE CONTROLS DESIGNED TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE IN AMERICA. ARE THERE TWO SIDES TO THE ISSUE OF KEEPING DEADLY WEAPONS OUT OF THOSE WHO...
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CONTROL AND GUN RIGHTS." >> THANKS, THAT BOOK IS A LAW SCHOOL AND COLLEGE AND GRADUATE SCHOOL TEXTBOOK PUBLISHED BY NEW YORK CITY PRESS, AND ONE OF OUR...
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OF MANY OF THE SAME GUN CONTROL MEASURES THAT MR. GROSSMAN FAVORS, BUT ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR BOOK AND MR. GROSSMAN'S BOOK IS WE HAVE FOOTNOTES AND...
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DAVID, I'D LIKE YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE IN THE BOOK I CALL THE N.R.A. A RACIST ORGANIZATION, AND WHERE I SAID THOSE WHO OPPOSE GUN CONTROLS ARE INSANE,...
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COWARDLY. >> I'D ALSO LOVE TO SEE THAT, AND PRESIDENT REAGAN, AND I'M STILL NOT CALLING THE N.R.A. A RACIST ORGANIZATION, BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP,...
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HESTON, SPEAKING TO
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THE FREE CONGRESS, DRAW YOUR SWORD AND QUITE FIGHT, BLACKS TO RAISE A MILITANT FIST WITH ONE HAND WHILE THEY SEEK PRIVILEGE WITH THE OTHER, MAINSTREAM...
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OH, SURE. >> DID HE SAY THAT OR IS THAT
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YOUR INTERPRETATION? >> DOES YOUR GROUP HAVE A SPANISH WEBSITE? WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH DOES IT DO TO SPANISH
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IN THIS COUNTRY? >> YOUR GROUP. >> PROPOSITION
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22, 70% SUPPORTED, WE HAD A LARGE SUPPORT OF THE
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HISPANIC COMMUNITY. IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST, AS IT IS ANY MINORITY COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL STILL WAIT FOR YOU
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TO FIND THE CITINGS. LET'S PASS ON THAT. >> WE'LL COME BACK TO
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THAT. >> DAVID, LET ME ASK YOU THE VERY BROAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATISTICS OF DEATHS, GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> SURE. WHAT MR. GROSSMAN, HE...
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1, IN THE NEXT TWO MINUTES, SOMEONE WILL BE SHOT WITH A HANDGUN.
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THAT'S A FALSE DATA. I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE, THE FACT THAT ONE PERSON A YEAR MIGHT BE SHOT BY A HANDGUN IS TOO MANY, BUT HE DOESN'T OFFER...
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SHOOTINGS A DAY? YOU SAID -- AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY
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AND READ THE BOOK AGAIN, I REFERRED TO CHILDREN UNDER THE
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AGE OF
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18. AND WHAT GHETTO GANGS WERE INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTINGS IN COLUMBINE, IN BAILEY, IN PENNSYLVANIA, YOU KEEP REFERRING TO GHETTO GANG KIDS. I DON'T...
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| 00:23:55 |
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NOT A SAFER COUNTRY IF YOU'RE JEWISH AND MAY GET BEATEN UP BY SOME ROVING GANG
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| 00:24:04 |
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OF ANTI- ANTI-SEMITES. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE TOTAL HOMICIDE RATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MODERN SITUATION, YOU FIND UNITED STATES...
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AMENDMENT? >> WHAT WOULD TAKE THEM FROM TAKING THE GUNS LIKE THE NAZIS DID. >> THAT'S THE BLACK HELICOPTER PHENOMENON. MY GOOD FRIEND, TOM MOUSER, IS...
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| 00:25:33 |
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TRAGIC LOSS. WHEN I INTERVIEWED TOM FOR THIS BOOK, I ASKED
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HIM, WHY ARE WE THE MOST GUN VIOLENT NATION ON EARTH, WHY DO MORE PEOPLE KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN ALL 25 NATIONS COMBINED, HE SAID, BECAUSE WE DON'T TRUST...
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| 00:27:42 |
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MORE. BRITAIN IMPLEMENTED A HANDGUN BAN IN THE 1990s AFTER A SCHOOL SHOOTING AND THEY PROMISED THAT WOULD MAKE IT SAFER, AND THEY'VE BEEN REPORTING...
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| 00:27:56 |
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BEEN GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE, WHEN YOU FOCUS ON SYMBOLIC GESTURES THAT MAY BE APPEASING TO AN EXTREME PART OF THE PUBLIC, YOU'RE DISTRACTING...
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TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M GLAD
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TO HEAR YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE A.C.L.U., BUT WE AGREE ON SOMETHING AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING. IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION,...
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WORLD,
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AND ENGLAND
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AND WALES ARE NOT MUCH BETTER. WHEN THEY SAY
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THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS THE MOST VIOLENT IN THE
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DEVELOPED WORLD, THAT'S A COUNTRY THAT'S DOING SOMETHING WORLD. >> DID THEY SAY THE MOST VIOLENT OR GUN VIOLENCE? >> YOU'RE FIXATED ON ONE LITTLE THING....
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OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE A GUN EPIDEMIC. WE DON'T HAVE A CLUB EPIDEMIC IN THIS COUNTRY. >> LET ME BREAK IN
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AND ASK A QUESTION PROPOSED TO ARNIE. WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE
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THAT YOUR PROPOSALS WOULD REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN THE UNITED STATES? >> I WOULD POINT TO THE NAME SAKES, WHICH DAVID LOVES TO VILIFY, JIM AND SARAH...
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| 00:32:08 |
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KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO JIM BRADY, HE TOOK A BULLET IN THE HEAD IN THE REAGAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT AND IS CONFINED TO
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| 00:32:18 |
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A WHEELCHAIR FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. HE AND HIS WIFE WENT INTO THE TRENCHES FOR GUN CONTROL AS A RESULT OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. HE HAD A BRADY BILL,...
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| 00:35:24 |
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INTEREST TRADE CENTER OR WHATEVER, THERE'S NO GUN
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| 00:35:30 |
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LAW. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE LAWS ABOUT SELLING GUNS ANYWHERE ELSE, AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF SILLY, I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE...
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| 00:37:24 |
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OUT CHARACTER JUDGMENTS, MORAL JUDGMENTS, BLOODY BLOODY IMAGERY, WHAT WOULD IT GIVE BACK TO SOCIETY? >> I'M SORRY? >> TAKE
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| 00:37:44 |
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OUT CHARACTER JUDGMENTS, MORE JUDGMENTS, THAT'S TERRIBLE, MORAL JUDGMENTS -- >> I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE -- >> RACIST -- >> WHAT -- BESIDES THE STATISTICS...
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| 00:38:02 |
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ARGUMENT HERE ABOUT, THAT IS THE BASIC BELIEF THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT GUN
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CONTROL? >> I'LL JUST SAY VERY SIMPLY, IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF GUN DEATHS, IF WE WOULD TAKE MORE
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GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS
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OF CRIMINALS AND PEOPLE WHO
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| 00:38:16 |
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HAVE MENTAL DISABILITIES, PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECORDS OF THE SPOUSAL ABUSE, IF WE WORKED TOWARDS, AND ALSO, I AGREE WITH DAVID, WE HAVE A CULTURAL PROBLEM...
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| 00:38:28 |
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HAVE BECOME INURED TO GUN VIOLENCE, AND WHO DO I BLAME FOR THAT? I BLAME THE GUN LOBBY IN PART AND THE N.R.A. FOR SAYING THAT GUNS ARE OKAY, GUN VIOLENCE,...
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| 00:39:38 |
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THEY SAY THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET GUNS AWAY FROM THE WAR LOADS IN LIBERIA IS TAKING GUNS AWAY FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. THEY ARE EXPLICITLY IN FAVOR...
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SOLUTIONS TO THE GUN VIOLENCE
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PROBLEM, THE BRADY FOUNDATION CONTINUALLY SAY WE DO NOT ADVOCATE THE TAKING OF GUNS FROM PEOPLE WHO LOGICALLY, LEGALLY, HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THEM, TO HUNT,...
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| 00:41:58 |
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HUNTER, A GREAT OUTDOORSMAN, CONSERVATIONALIST, AND I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AND TO CUT DOWN ON THE USE AND COLLECTION...
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| 00:43:58 |
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A VIOLENT FELON, OF COURSE NOT. MAYBE
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| 00:44:01 |
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SOMEONE WHO CHEATED ON THEIR TAXES AND HAD A
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CLEAN RECORD FOR 20 YEARS, THAT HE CAN HAVE HIS RIGHTS RESTORED AND THOSE AN OPTIONAL PROCESS, BUT NOT SOMEONE CONFLICTED OF A VIOLENT FELONY. >>...
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AWAY GUNS OR SELF-DEFENSE, MADE ME WANT TO RETHINK, ABOUT ASSOCIATING WITH THE BRADY CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE THE FACT IS MRS. BRADY TOLD THE TAMPA TRIBUNE,...
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FOR SUPPORTING PURPOSE. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID,
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THE FOUNDER OF THE ORGANIZATION, BACK IN THE 1970s, SAID THE SAME KIND OF THING, MORE EXPLICITLY, THAT THEIR GOAL WAS TO BAN HANDGUNS, THEN THROUGH...
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| 00:45:43 |
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TANTAMOUNT TO REGISTRATION. I HAVE
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| 00:45:50 |
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TROUBLE JUMPING THAT GAP WITH YOU. IF WE REGISTER THINGS, ARE WE CONFISCATING THEM? DO YOU OWN CARS, SAILBOATS? ARE THEY REGISTERED? ARE THEY TAKEN...
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| 00:48:06 |
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ANTI-GUN LOBBY RATHER THAN LOOKING ELSEWHERE. THE FACT IS, THIS GUN INDUSTRY IMMUNITY BILL HE TALKS ABOUT, IF HE READ IT, HE WOULD SAY THAT MANY OF...
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| 00:48:18 |
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WRONG. HE CLAIMS IT GRANTS IMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY KNOWINGLY BREAK THE LAW. IF HE'D READ IT, HE'D SEE THAT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY EXCEPTED FROM THE IMMUNITY,...
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WHICH ENDORSED A NUMBER OF CANDIDATES AND HAS A HISTORY OF DOING
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| 00:52:23 |
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THAT, ENDORSED GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER IN CALIFORNIA, HE JUST SIGNED INTO LAW A BAN ON .50 CALIBER AUTOMATIC WEAPONS AND SIGNED 10 OF 15 GUN...
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DENVER ATHLETIC CLUB AND THE DENVER PRESS CLUB AND SOCIETY FOR PROFESSIONALS THAT SPONSORED US THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING. .. IT'S
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