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COVERAGE ON THE C-SPAN. >> IT STILL SEEMS FRESH AND YET WE KNOW MEMORIES SOMETIMES CAN
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STILL PLAY GAMES. INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME IS AVAILABLE NOW. IT IS AN AWKWARD MOMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS HAVE KICKED --...
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| 00:00:25 |
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TRY TO TALK ABOUT THE COLLAPSE OF THE SOVIET UNION IN 1991 BY INVITING SOME AMERICANS -- HEAR SOME AMERICANS WHO WORK IN A WAY INVOLVED. THEY WERE PROFESSIONAL...
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ALSO ON THE SOVIET SIDE. I HOPE WE WILL BE HEARING FROM THEM. I THOUGHT WE MIGHT START OUT BY ADDRESSING WHAT I CONSIDER SOME OF THE MOST DAMAGING AND...
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| 00:17:59 |
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BEING THE D COLONIALIZATION AND THE RETURN TO GLOBAL PROMINENT -c GLOBAL PROMINENCE OF ASIA. THESE THREE GREAT TRANSFORMATIONS HAVE DEEPER ROOTS. THE...
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| 00:29:57 |
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COUNTRIES, BUT THEY HAVE LITTLE INCLINATION TO DO THE KIND OF SERIOUS EXAMINATION OF WHAT WAS REQUIRED IN THE SITUATION OF THE POST-SOVIET RUSSIA --...
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| 00:33:23 |
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WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THAT. CAME FROM READING ABOUT IT AND TALKING TO OTHERS. BUT I WAS THERE
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| 00:33:30 |
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FROM 1988 UNTIL 1991 AND IT WAS CERTAINLY IN EXTREMELY EXCITING TIME.
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| 00:33:36 |
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I WILL REMIND YOU THAT BECAUSE OF U.S. POLICY NOT RECOGNIZING THE INCORPORATION OF THE BALTIC STATES INTO THE SOVIET UNION, THE AMERICAN AT BEST --...
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| 00:45:45 |
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TO DEAL WITH THE COLLAPSE OF THE SOVIET UNION AND THE DYNAMICS OF WORK OVER THE PERIODS FROM THE AUGUST COUP ON THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE '90S. THERE...
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| 01:03:44 |
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NOT ONLY ARE WE ALL FROM THE SOUTH OR THE MIDWEST, BUT THE NEW SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WHEN TO ARGUE. IT TESTIFIES TO THE MIDWEST AND THE SOUTH. THIS IS...
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| 01:04:06 |
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CONGRATULATE BLAIR RUBLE AND THE KENNEDY INSTITUTE BECAUSE THIS SUBSTITUTE HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED SERIOUSLY IN THE UNITED STATES IN HALF, IF AT ALL, DURING...
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| 01:19:59 |
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THE PANELISTS -- LEAVING ASIDE THE MOMENT OF THE REALITY ON THE GROUND IN RUSSIA, UKRAINE, THE CAUCUSES, AND CENTRAL ASIA, WE HAVE HEARD THE DISCUSSION...
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| 01:23:26 |
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THE COLD WAR WAS REALLY OVER, A LOT OF PROBLEMS WERE STILL OUTER -- OUT THERE. NEVERTHELESS, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT SPIRIT IN THE DIPLOMACY. WE WERE...
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| 01:28:05 |
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BELARUS. IF WE HAVE TO LOVE THAT, THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE SO ENORMOUS THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY RETROSPECTIVE SAYING THAT WE SHOULD OF BEEN A MORE PRIORITY....
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| 01:30:32 |
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SHOWED UP IN TOWN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, IT WAS NOT EXACTLY PERSUASIVE THAT THIS WAS ALL GOING TO GO YELTSIN'S WAY. KNOW I THINK IN THAT...
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| 01:34:31 |
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EVERYBODY FOR
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| 01:34:33 |
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FOR A VOLUNTARILY REFORMING SOVIET UNION TO EXIST, THEN THE SO-CALLED LONG PAUSE, AS I THINK IT WAS CALLED BETWEEN THE TIME THAT PRESIDENT REAGAN...
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| 01:37:08 |
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AND HAVE THE PANELISTS RESPOND. >> MY NAME IS AND
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| 01:37:21 |
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TONELY. IMCURRENTLY A GUEST SCHOLAR IN THE UNITED STATES INSTITUTE OF PEACE. LET ME SAY IT IS A SUBTLE PLEASURE TO ATTEND SUCH AN AN INTELLECTUAL MEETING....
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| 01:37:42 |
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WHO'S TO BLAME. IT IS VERY POPULAR. AND AT THE SAME TIME USELESS QUESTION, BECAUSE USUALLY THE CONSEQUENCES, THE LESSONS ARE NOT DROVE, AND THE ANSWER...
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| 01:40:25 |
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FROM THE EMBASSY AND LEFT MY RUSSIAN HOSTS SHOW ME THEIR COUNTRY. AND I HAVE TO SAY I WAS
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| 01:40:35 |
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VISITING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS CLEAR IS THAT THE RUSSIANS WERE SHIPPING ALL KINDS OF THINGS DOWN THE RIVER FROM A TOWN,...
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| 01:42:15 |
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UP, TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE TO ITS PEOPLE. YOU CAN CALL IT DEM CRA TAIZATION OR WHAT NOT AND IN EFFECT, LIFT THE IRON CURTAIN AND CONTROL THE ARMS,...
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| 01:43:02 |
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SENSIBLE? I THINK IN HINDSIGHT, THEY WERE OVERLY AMBITIOUS, SHALL WE SAY. BUT I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THIS WAS NO MORE I POSSESSED BY THE UNITED STATES...
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| 01:44:49 |
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CONTROVERSY THAT SENATOR MOYNIHAN, FOUNDER OF THE WILSON CENTER BROUGHT UP,
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| 01:44:53 |
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WHICH IS TO SAY THE ALLEGED FAILURE BY THE C.I.A. TO PREDICT THE COLLAPSE. >> WE'LL COME BACK. LET'S TAKE STEVE AND JOE WILL COME DOWN HERE NEXT. >>...
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| 01:45:23 |
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JULY, 1991, IN TERMS OF BUREAUCRATIC INERTIA, WOULD THE SOVIET
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| 01:45:31 |
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BUREAUCRACY HAVING THESE WESTERN FUNDS BEEN ABLE TO APPLY THEM PRODUCTIVELY OR JUST DISAPPEARED INTO PRIVATE HANDS? >>ED BERGER. THERE WAS TALK...
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| 01:46:06 |
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SAX. AND I SPEAK NOT OF THE SHOCK THERAPY ISSUE BUT OF A PROPOSAL OF A LARGE SUM OF MONEY TO BE DEVOTED TO THE TRANSITION, ECONOMIC TRANSITION IN THE...
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| 01:47:02 |
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WANTED TO REFORM THE USSR INTO A STATE THAT WOULD NOT RELY ON
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| 01:47:08 |
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STATE TERROR OR THE APPARATUS OF PROPOGANDA. AND WHEN HE DISMANTLED THAT AND DID AWAY WITH STATE TERROR, THE SYSTEM COLLAPSED BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN...
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| 01:47:45 |
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IT WAS EARLY ON. THE FACT IS OUR GOVERNMENT UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND ONE COULD NOT PREDICT FROM ONE DAY TO THE OTHER HOW LONG...
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| 01:47:59 |
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I SAID, I SENT MY FIRST MESSAGE IN JUNE, 1990, REALMING THAT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PREPARE FOR THE CONTINGENCY THAT THE SOVIET UNION COULD BREAK...
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| 01:50:52 |
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OF AUTONOMY WITHIN
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| 01:50:55 |
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FIVE YEARS. >> WAYNE, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN. >> TO BE FAIR TO PEOPLE, WHAT WE HAVE ARE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, NOT WISDOM AGENCIES. IF THESE AGENCIES...
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| 01:51:19 |
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IN AUGUST,
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| 01:51:22 |
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1991. THAT BUSH DIDN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO FAIL. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG. IN THE WEEKS BEFORE I WENT OUT TO MOSCOW IN 1991, A SENIOR FIGURE IN...
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| 01:52:54 |
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ON, BY THE WAY? WE ALL UP HERE HAVE TO BE ALIP TI CALL BECAUSE WE ARE PRESSED FOR TIME. G-7 COMMITTED MONEY TO GORBACHEV, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO...
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| 01:53:11 |
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IN AUGUST. THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE TOUCHED HIM IF HE HAD COME HOME WITH WHATEVER HE WANTED. BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT THE COUP WAS THE FINAL...
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| 01:56:34 |
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INDEED IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PERHAPS THREE A PARTY WHERE EVERYONE WHO MISSES FOR WHATEVER REASON THE DEMISE OF THE SOVIET UNION COULD COME AND EXCHANGE...
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| 01:56:49 |
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THEY MISS IT. THAT WOULDN'T BE A MASSIVE GATHERING BUT A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WOULD TURN OUT. SECOND THING, VERY SHORT, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW...
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| 01:58:44 |
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MAYBE THOSE WHO WERE PUSHING THE ENVELOPE. I THINK THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN OUT IN FRONT OF OTHER
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| 01:58:53 |
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DIPLOMATIC ESTABLISHMENTS IN DOCK THAT. AND NO MATTER THE SOCIETY. FAR MORE NASTY THAN PUTIN'S RUSSIA. I KNOW WE ARE DOING THAT IN RUSSIA TODAY. WE...
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| 02:00:25 |
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SOME WAYS, WE DON'T GIVE PUTIN SO MUCH CREDIT. PERSONAL CONDUCT IS IMPORTANT. WHO KNOWS THE BENEFITS THAT MAY HAVE COME TO THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE...
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| 02:02:02 |
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THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION AND OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS THAT MANY OF THE SAME FORCES THAT TODAY SAY WE SHOULDN'T TALK...
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| 02:03:37 |
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THE EARTH. THAT SAID, I THINK IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT WE NOW FACE A LONG PERIOD IN WHICH WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE RESOURCES AND PEOPLE AND SOME COMMITMENT...
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| 02:06:15 |
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INSTITUTE WROTE IN 1950
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| 02:06:17 |
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WHEN THE COMMUNIST SYSTEM ENDS, WE SHOULD KEEP OUR NOSE OUT OF RUSSIA'S BUSINESS, THEY WILL SORT IT OUT THEMSELVES. WE DID NOT FOLLOW THAT ADVICE...
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| 02:06:52 |
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SUNDAY ON BOOK TV, BEHIND THE SCENES AT ONE OF THE MOST WIDELY READ BOOK REVIEWS IN THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY. INSIDE THE "NEW YORK TIMES" BOOK REVIEW.
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.