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GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS A GREAT DAY. IT'S A GREAT DAY WHEN WE SEE A THOUSAND OR PLUS MEMBERS OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION GOING TO THE HILL...
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PHENEGER. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT FLORIDA ON THE NATIONAL BOARD OF THE ACLU. [APPLAUSE] >> AND I HAVE THE HONOR TO SERVE ON THE EXECUTIVE...
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| 00:01:28 |
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OF PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AND COMBATING THE THREAT OF TERRORISM. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND
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THAT WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT OF LAWS, A GOVERNMENT DESIGNED TO PRESERVE OUR LIBERTY AND OUR FREEDOM. AND MILITARY OFFICERS ARE SWORN TO...
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TIME WHEN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAS ASSERTED THAT THE WAR ON TERROR HAS GIVEN THE PRESIDENT AUTHORITY AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND THAT HE IS NOT IN ...
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| 00:04:24 |
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AUTHORIZED WARRANTLESS ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE. PROVISIONS OF THE PATRIOT ACT HAVE GIVEN THE GOVERNMENT UNPRECEDENTED AUTHORITY TO VIOLATE OUR PRIVACY...
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| 00:06:35 |
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IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND TO BE AMONGST DISTINGUISHED PANELISTS SUCH AS THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK FOR IN JOURNALISM IS A PEG UPON ...
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DETAINEES. [APPLAUSE] >> ON MY DIRECT RIGHT IS STEVEN SHAPIRO THE LEGAL DIRECTOR OF THE ACLU SINCE 1993. THAT'S A LONG TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> STEVE IS ALSO...
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| 00:12:02 |
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LAWYERS ON THE STAFF. HE'S AN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST SERVING ON VARIOUS COMMITTEES FOR HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS...
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| 00:12:13 |
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AND ON MY FAR LEFT NEXT TO JOHN IS KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL. KATRINA IS AN EDITOR A PUBLISHER AND AN AUTHOR WHO PUBLISHES AND EDITS THE NATION. AMERICA'S...
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| 00:12:37 |
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FOREIGN RELATIONS AND HAS SEVERAL BOOKS INCLUDING TAKING BACK AMERICA AND TAKING DOWN THE RADICAL RIGHT, A JUST RESPONSE THE NATION OF TERRORISM AND DEMOCRACY...
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| 00:12:53 |
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STEVE JUST TOLD ME NOc TO START WITHOUT HIM.HIM. >> HE LOST HIS MIKE. >> THERE YOU GOc ALL RIGHT. JUST AS A LEAPING OFF POINT HERE, I'D LIKE TO, YOU...
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| 00:13:23 |
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SENT TO JOHN MCCAIN DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE CONGRESSIONAL DEBATE OVER CHANGES TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS. AND IN THIS LETTER, GENERAL POWELL SAID
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| 00:13:31 |
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THAT THE EFFORT
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| 00:13:32 |
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TO REDEFINE THE ARTICLE WAS INCONSISTENT WITH HIS PREVIOUS -- WITH SENATOR MCCAIN'S PREVIOUS OPPOSITION TO THE USE OF TORTURE. AND THE LETTER HE BROKE...
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| 00:14:47 |
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MY RELATION TO A REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION ON THESE ISSUES AT THIS cTIME. AND I HAD TO TELL PEOPLE Bc ANALOGY I FOUND A PERFECT STORc THAT SORT OF...
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| 00:16:30 |
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MORNING. I WOULD TELL HIM THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE MR. PRESIDENT, THESE MEN WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED THEY WANT MONEY AND THERE'S NO TELLING HOW MUCH...
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| 00:18:21 |
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| 00:18:23 |
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THE LEADER OF THE WESTERN WORLD, IT'S SORT OF AN AWESOME THING. I FIRST OF ALL HAD TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. I NOW KNOW TODAY...
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| 00:18:37 |
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HE KNEW. I SUSPECTED HE KNEW A LOT BUT YOU DON'T GO IN AND TELL THE PRESIDENT AT LEAST MOST PRESIDENTS THAT THEY ARE FULL OF BEANS AND THEY DON'T GET...
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| 00:19:52 |
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SERVE THE NATIONAL INTEREST STEM FROM THE MOMENT WHEN I FIRST HEARD THERE WAS ABUSE GOING ON IN GUANTANAMO OF THE DETAINEES. AND THEN I HEARD ALSO...
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| 00:20:03 |
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WASHINGTON AND THEN I FOUND OUT THAT, IN FACT, THERE HAD BEEN AUTHORITIES FOR THE APPLICATION OF HARSH INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES WHICH I CLASSIFIED CERTAINLY...
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| 00:20:59 |
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BECAME AWARE OF THE SIMPLE MISTAKE IT WOULD BE INSTANTANEOUS TO CORRECT IT. WELL, IT
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| 00:21:05 |
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WASN'T. IT WAS A MISTAKE, BUT I LATER LEARNED IT WAS NOT INADVERTANT. THAT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WERE SEEKING TO APPLY A POLICY OF CRUELTY BECAUSE...
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| 00:21:39 |
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RECORD. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT SECRETARY RUMSFELD RESCINDED THE AUTHORITIES HE HAD GIVEN TO THE APPLICATION OF CRUELTY IN GUANTANAMO ABOUT THREE ...
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| 00:21:47 |
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STARTED RAISING THIS ALARM BUT THEN AS WE LATER LEARNED IN ABU GHRAIB AND OTHER KIND OF PLACES THERE HAD BEEN A POLICY OF CRUELTY THAN I THOUGHT HAD...
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| 00:22:26 |
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OF YEARS IT BECAME EVIDENT IT WAS MORE A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM AND TAKING IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHERS.
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| 00:22:39 |
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BUT IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR TO ME AT FIRST OF THE EXTENT OF THE AGREEMENTS OF THE POLICY FEEL CRUELTY SO THAT'S A REGRET NOW. >> YEAH. MR. DEAN, WHAT...
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| 00:23:06 |
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STARTED PUSHING BACK AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, IT WAS, IN FACT, WHEN I EVEN BROKE RANK AND TOLD THEM I WAS GOING TO GO TO THE
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| 00:23:15 |
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PROSECUTORS, I THOUGHT NAIVELY SO MY DOING SO WOULD FORCE OTHERS TO STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING. ALL IT DID IN OUR SITUATION WAS ESCALATE THE COVER-UP...
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| 00:25:49 |
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THESE TIMES. IS THAT THERE IS -- AND I THINK THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN CAUTIONARY LESSONS FROM THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION ON THIS, A WAR ON THE...
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| 00:29:26 |
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THE WASHINGTON POST. AS HAS JANE MAYIER BUT LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW YORK TIMES. IT WAS A LOW MOMENT IN THIS NATION'S HISTORY WHEN YOU HAD REPRESENTATIVES...
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| 00:29:43 |
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NEW YORK TIMES" HAS BECOME KNOWN AS A RADICAL NEWSPAPER. THIS IS AN ESTABLISHMENT PAPER. WE NEED TO RETRIEVE THE MORAL CENTER NOT ONLY POLITICALLY BUT...
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| 00:30:37 |
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MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALL THESE THING THAT IS WE HAVE UNCOVERED OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, I GUESS SINCE ABU GHRAIB IT REALLY STARTED SNOWBALLING. THE BREADTH...
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| 00:31:12 |
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QUAINT. >> LET ME START WITH CONGRESS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EASIER TO IN SOME WAYS SPEAK ABOUT THE CONGRESSIONAL DERELICTION OF DUTY AS KATRINA JUST...
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| 00:31:33 |
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OR THE FACT THAT SO MANY MEMBERS
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| 00:31:35 |
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OF CONGRESS HAVE VOTED FOR THE MILITARY COMMISSION ACT KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT WAS IN IT. BUT I THINK CONGRESS HAS TRULY BEEN MISSING IN ACTION IN THIS...
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| 00:36:24 |
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ABOUT 110 DETAINEES THERE THAT ARE SLATED TO BE TRANSFERRED OR RELEASED, AND THEY'RE HAVING A REAL UPON TRYING TO FIND COUNTRIES TO TAKE THEM OR TO...
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| 00:37:40 |
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WHERE AMERICAN JUSTICE IS METED OUT, IT'S A PLACE WHERE AMERICAN INJUSTICE IS DEALT TO I DIDN'TINDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT BE INNOCENT. SO THE COST TO THE...
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| 00:40:32 |
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IF WE TAKE 250 DETAINEES AND REMOVE THEM TO A NAVAL BASE IN -- WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE REFORMED IS OUR POLICIES. GUANTANAMO IS...
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| 00:42:04 |
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DOWN THERE, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION. WHERE DO YOU PUT THESE GUYS? THE ONE THAT IS YOU DO RELEASE. AS I SAID, I THINK IT'S PIVOTAL, BUT THEY'RE...
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| 00:42:52 |
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HAPPENED TO CON SERBTISM. PROBABLY ON MANY ISSUES TO THIS DAY STILL A GOLDWATER CONSERVATIVE WHICH PLACES ME WELL LEFT OF CENTER TODAY. >> I JUST GOT...
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| 00:43:27 |
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SAID,
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| 00:43:28 |
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JOHN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVES HAVE GOTTEN SO NASTY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS MALICIOUS BULLY MEAN STREAK THAT'S COME OUT AND PARTICULARLY...
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| 00:47:16 |
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PROTECTED AGAINST THIS THREAT IS A VERY REAL THREAT WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT MAKES THIS CONVERSATION MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR...
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| 00:48:09 |
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THIS MOMENT WE TALK ABOUT IRAQ, WE TALK ABOUT IS SO-CALLED WAR ON TERRORISM, IT SHOULD BE A BATTLE AGAINST TACTICS AND METHODS. THAT IS WHAT TERRORISM...
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| 00:50:10 |
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THE GOVERNMENT'S SACRED ONLY GRACE WAS TO KEEP US BOTH SAFE AND FREE. BUT WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING...
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| 00:51:03 |
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ANY LONGER. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WIDELY DISPERSED GEOGRAPHICALLY. FOUR OR FIVE DOZEN COUNTRIES TARPBD WORLD THAT. BY NECESSITY REQUIRE IT...
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| 00:52:02 |
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THE RULE OF LAW IS AN ASSET, NOT AN OBSTACLE IN FIGHTING THIS BATTLE. BUT THAT HAS BEEN EMBEDDED MAYBE THROUGH FEAR, MAYBE THROUGH THE TICKING TIME...
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| 00:52:48 |
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WE DISCOVERED ABOUT THE TORTURE PILES AND ABOUT CIA PRISONS AND THAT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT CIA INTERROGATORS ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB, THEY'RE BACKING OFF...
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| 00:53:38 |
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IS BECAUSE THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT THE UNITED STATES IS NOT FOLLOW T-G LAW IN THOSE PARTICULAR COUNTRIES, AND CONSEQUENCELY THERE'S A BACKLASH TO...
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| 00:54:26 |
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THERE ARE MORE DROWN R DROWNINGS, THERE ARE MORE INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENTS AT THE LOW END OF WHAT HAPPENS TO AMERICANS IN THEIR DAILY LIFE, FREEWAY ACCIDENTS,...
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| 00:55:18 |
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MUCH ANYMORE? MEMBERS ARE COMING MORE TO THE FORE? >> WELL BOB WOODWARD HAS HIS GOOD SOURCES, AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE A FEW MYSELF WHEN I FOUND SOME OLD...
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| 00:55:43 |
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TRUE, AND HIS GENIUS KHRERLY THAT HE LETS GEORGE BUSH WAKE UP EVERY MORNING AND THINK HE'S ACTUALLY PRESIDENT. >> I THINK BY BRINGING JAMES BAKER...
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| 00:56:13 |
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THE ADMINISTRATION A YEAR AGO AND THE OFFICIAL SAID WE LIVE IN A FAITH-BASED WORLD. YOU LIVE THERE, WE HAVE, WE'VE CREATED OUR OWN EMPIRE. OUR OWN REALITY,...
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| 00:57:45 |
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WE'RE FOCUSED ON OF COURSE IS CRIME AND PUNISHMENT. BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY I'M NOT SURE THAT I SEE MUCH MOVEMENT IN THE ADMINISTRATION. IF THE ADMINISTRATION...
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| 00:58:00 |
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GOING TO BE BECAUSE THEY ARE FORCED TO DO SO BY THE POLITICS IN THE MOMENT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS MOVING. AND PART OF THAT IS WE'VE...
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| 00:59:24 |
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TO OSAMA BIN LAD BIN LADEN. BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN THAT. WE WERE BETTER THAN THE TERRORISTS, AND THAT'S WHAT AMERICANS DID. AMERICANS...
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| 01:00:00 |
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THE BATTLEFIELD. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON IN ADDITION TO THE RECIPROCITY ARGUMENT THAT THE ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY IS A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF ENFORCE...
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| 01:00:33 |
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JAG CORPS. ALL THESE MILITARY OFFICERS AND LAWYERS HAVE ALWAYS SOUGHT -- SO THEY'VE BEEN REMARKABLE CITIZENS AND SOLDIERS, AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING...
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| 01:00:52 |
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HOPE THAT WE'RE TURNING TO THE STATUS -- IN AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THAT TREATMENT, SO I THINK WE'RE GET THR-G. >> GOOD. WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD OPEN IT...
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| 01:01:19 |
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THAT THINGS, IT GETS CHALLENGED IN THE COURTS AND ITS SREFRPLGLY FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WHAT WILL
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| 01:01:28 |
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THAT DO TO THINGS THAT START
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| 01:01:31 |
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UNDER THE LAW, FOR INSTANCE,
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| 01:01:33 |
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DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED TORTURE IN OUR NAME ARE, CANNOT BE PROSECUTORRED OR THEY CAN? OR IS THERE DOUBLE JEOPARDY INVOLVED OR WHAT...
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| 01:02:08 |
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FEDERAL COURTS OF NIL JURISDICTION
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| 01:02:10 |
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TO HEAR HABEAS PETITIONS. I DON'T THINK THE COURT IS GOING STAND FOR THAT, AND I THINK THAT PART WILL BE STRUCK DOWN. IN TERMS OF THE REDEFINITION OF...
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| 01:03:33 |
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TO PROSECUTE OFFICIALS OVERSEAS. >> GOOD
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| 01:03:38 |
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POINT. >> SIR? >> WITH THREE OF THE PANEL ARE TO ONE DEGREE OR ANOTHER IN THE NEWS GATHERING BUSINESS. BEFORE WE CAN R REMEDY ABUSES, WE HAVE TO KNOW...
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| 01:03:58 |
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AND
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| 01:04:01 |
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THEIR EXTENT. AS PROFITABILITY TAKES
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| 01:04:04 |
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OVER AS THE MAJOR CONCERN OF NEWS ORGANIZATIONS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM SEEMS TO BE IN A DECLINE. WILL IT BE NECESSARY FOR CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND...
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| 01:04:52 |
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WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A SCRATCH OF WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW AS FAR AS THE EXTENT OF THE ABUSE AND WHO WAS DOING IT. TO THE POINT ACTUALLY WHERE THE -- WE WERE...
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| 01:05:54 |
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TO UPHOLD IN THE TPOURS OF CROSS OWNERSHIP ROLLBACKS, THE IMPACT ON LOCAL NEWS NEWS, AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF MEDIA ON MEDIA DEMOCRACY IS NOT NEW,...
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| 01:06:44 |
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A DOZEN TIMES. THERE WILL BE NO MORE 9/11S BECAUSE OF THIS LEGISLATION, NO
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| 01:06:49 |
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MORE TERRORIST ATTACKS SUCH AS 9/11, THIS WAS IN MEMORY OF THE BRAVE SOULS WHO DIED IN 9/11. IT WAS IN HONOR OF THE FAMILIES OF THE 9/11 VICTIMS, HE...
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| 01:07:59 |
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BE DELUDED BY IT AS WELL AND BUY INTO IT. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS TACTIC WORKS FOR HIM, AND INDEED HAS WORKED IN ALL THE PAST ELECTIONS. IT WILL...
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| 01:08:36 |
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OF DETAINEES SIMPLY BASED ON --
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| 01:08:38 |
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ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT BAD, IT MAY NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH IN TERMS OF DUE PROCESS GIVEN TO THE DETAINEE IN ORDER TO SERVICE THE BASIS. SO THERE ARE STILL FLAWS...
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| 01:09:19 |
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IF THE TWO MAJOR PARTIES ARE GOING RUN AWAY, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO FORCE THAT DISCUSSION ON THE...
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| 01:10:07 |
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OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE HIGH CRIMES AND
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| 01:10:10 |
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MISDEMEANORS WOULD CALL FOR IMPEACHMENT -- AND IF SO, WHILE THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM OFFICE WHAT OTHER MEASURES COULD BE DONE TO ROLL...
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| 01:10:49 |
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AND WHY IT SHOULD MATTER TO US. THAT'S WHERE I LIMIT MY KPHREPS. >> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT TASK FOR US NOW IS REALLY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED...
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| 01:11:14 |
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FOR OPTIMISM, THAT CONGRESS MIGHT IN FACT ROLL BACK THE HABEAS DECISIONS. THE VOTE IN THE SENATE WAS 51-48, AND SO DEPENDING UPON THE ELECTORAL RESULTS,...
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| 01:11:52 |
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ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN SAYS IT'S A LAST RESORT AND MUST NEVER BEEN TAKEN, UNDERTAKEN LIGHTLY, BUT IT'S NEITHER SOMETHING THAT CONGRESS CAN SHIRK ITS RESPONSIBILITY...
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| 01:13:05 |
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OF PEOPLE HAD JUST RIPPED UP INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS. I'M NOT AMERICAN, I'M CANADIAN, BUT IT WAS GOLDEN, AND THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY AND IT WAS ONLY...
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| 01:14:10 |
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WAS TALKING ABOUT MT. ADMINISTRATION CHANGES BUT GOING FORWARD NOT GOING BACK BAUD WE SHOULD NOT HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION TO THE SAME STANDARD OF JURISPRUDENCE...
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| 01:15:12 |
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GOING TO HAPPEN. I AGREE WITH THE OTHERS THAT IT'S TOO LATE FOR IMPEACHMENT. THERE'S NO -- I DON'T SEE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD EVER GET SUFFICIENT...
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| 01:16:04 |
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PARTS OF THESE HEARINGS BECAUSE HEARINGS CAN BE HAELD AND PEOPLE MAY KNOW ABOUT TEAM -- SO MUCH OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO LEARN. >> HI THERE. I'M FROM...
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| 01:16:41 |
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HAVE A LAWSUIT PENDING AGAINST SECRETARY RUMSFELD AND THREE SOUTHEASTERN MILITARY COMMANDERS IN FEDERAL COURT IN
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| 01:16:51 |
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D.C., BUT WE HAVE OUR FIRST COURT HEARING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 8 OF THIS YEAR. >> MY QUESTION
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| 01:16:59 |
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IS WITH WHAT PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNED INTO OFFICE
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| 01:17:02 |
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TODAY DOES THAT MAKE THAT CASE MOOT? >> NO, IT DOES NOT MAKE THE CASE MOOT. THE CASE WILL GO ON REGARDLESS OF THE BILL THAT WAS SIGNED TODAY. >> EVEN...
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| 01:17:20 |
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AND THAT'S WHAT OUR CASE IS BASED ON, CORRECT? >> NO, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ACTUALLY, IT LIMITS THE CRIMES FOR WHICH
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| 01:17:28 |
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PEOPLE CAN BE CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED UNDER THE WAR CRIMES ACT ALTHOUGH THEY STILL CAN BE CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED FOR TORTURE
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| 01:17:36 |
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EVEN UNDER THIS BILL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO CRIMINALLY PROSECUTE ANYBODY SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS BROUGHT A CIVIL
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| 01:17:45 |
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LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF NINE VICTIMS OF TOR SURE AND CRUEL AND HUMAN AND DEGRADING TREATMENT AT THE HANDS OF THEIR AMERICAN CAPTORS. AMERICAN GUARDS, NOT...
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| 01:18:50 |
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PROVE GUILTY -- (APPLAUSE). >> THE -- IN GUANTANAMO DEPEND ON WHAT'S AN AGE-OLD -- TO DETAIN THEIR ENEMY COMBATANTS DURING THE DURATION OF THE HOS ...
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| 01:19:19 |
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BEEN PICKED UP BY MISTAKE. THEY WERE NOT PROPERLY CLASSIFIED TO BEGIN WITH, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO SYSTEM IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SORT THEM OUT....
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| 01:19:51 |
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THE WARTIME PARADIME IS NOT AN ADEQUATE PARADIME TO SERVE AS THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE WAR. THERE ARE ALSO INCREASINGLY LARGER ELEMENTS...
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| 01:20:10 |
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THAT YOU'RE AN ENEMY COMBATANT AND WE'RE GOING HOLD YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. AS A PRACTICE FOR THE UNITED STATES TO ENGAGE IN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON....
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| 01:20:45 |
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ATTACK AGAIN FOR 8 YEARS, SO THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS DOES NOT, TO ME, SUPPORT THAT. IT'S BECAUSE THAT THE WAR ON TERROR IS WORKING, AND...
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| 01:21:27 |
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INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS, WE SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE. WE'RE ALWAYS TOLD THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY...
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| 01:22:55 |
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JAG OFFICERS FOR DOING -- I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT IS THE EXTENT OF THAT RETALIATION, AND WHAT DO YOU SUSPECT IS THE IMPACT OF...
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| 01:23:35 |
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JAG IN MY FOUR AND A HALF YEARS THAT DIDN'T EXPRESS PRIDE AND SATISFACTION THAT THEIR SKP-FS THEIR REPRESENTATION OF THEIR CLIENTS DID NOTHING BUT BRING...
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| 01:24:52 |
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| 01:24:55 |
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| 01:25:05 |
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FOR EVEN 21st CENTURY SO TO SPEAK. THAT THE TECHNIQUES THAT WERE BEING IMPLEMENTED OFTEN UNDER SUPERVISION OF THE BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES CONSULTATION TEAMS...
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| 01:26:09 |
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ASPECTS TO THIS THERE. IS SOME CONCERN THAT SOME MEDICAL RECORDS, MEDICAL SERVICE -- INFORMATION IN FACT PHYSICIANS IN MILITARY UNIFORM MAY HAVE ASSISTED...
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| 01:26:20 |
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APPLICATION OF CRUEL TREATMENT TO DETAIN THAT'S WHICH MOST PHYSICIANS AND ALL THE PHYSICIAN BASED HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS SEE AS A GROSS VIOLATION...
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| 01:26:29 |
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MEDICAL ETHICS THAT'S ONE SIDE OF THE CONTROVERSY OR DILEMMA. THE OTHER SIDE IS ARE PSYCHOLOGISTS FOR EXAMPLE WHO ARE ADVISING OPERATORS AND OTHERS...
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| 01:27:23 |
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ARTICLE ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE TOWERS HADN'T FALLEN AND REALISTICALLY THE TERRORIST WERE AIMING TO KILL PROBABLY 500-600 PEOPLE AND...
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| 01:27:34 |
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STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS MAYBE ENGINEERING PROBLEMS AND IT WENT FROM A 600 YOU KNOW A GOAL OF 600 TO 3,000 AND AND THEN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TAKES IT...
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| 01:28:28 |
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TO HAVE TRIED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE FROM DAY ONE AND AM STUNNED AT HOW EASILY THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ABLE TO FRIGHTEN SO MANY PEOPLE FOR...
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| 01:30:24 |
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IS. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS DO A PROCEEDING LIKE HE DID TODAY, MENTION 9/11 EVERY TIME HE GETS A CHANCE AND KEEP RINGING THE THAT BELL. THERE ARE LOTS...
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| 01:31:08 |
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NATION'S POST-9/11 HISTORY. [APPLAUSE]. >> THERE IS A THREAT, A VERY SERIOUS THREAT BUT IT'S NOT OUR SAFETY AS POSED TO OUR VALUES WE SHOULD STRIVE TO...
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| 01:31:35 |
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OF CLARIFICATION. BY THE WAY, DAVID LIEBERMAN, ACLU OF FLORIDA. POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IN CONNECTION WITH THE COURT DECISION THAT HELD THAT THE PRISONERS...
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| 01:31:50 |
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MAY THAT COURT BE A MILITARY COURT UNDER THOSE
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| 01:31:55 |
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CIRCUMSTANCES. WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON THAT? >> WHAT IS THE SUPREME COURT'S VIEW OF IT? I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER SO TO THAT IS YES, IF IT IS A PROPERLY...
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| 01:32:19 |
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I THINK IT ONE GOOD TO RECOGNIZE AN EXCEPTIONAL PANEL WHO BROUGHT
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| 01:32:30 |
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A LOT OF LIGHT TO A BUNCH OF VERY CRITICAL
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| 01:32:32 |
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ISSUES
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| 01:32:35 |
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TODAY. I KNOW THE
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| 01:32:37 |
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JOURNALISTS HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT BUT MORA I THINK DEMONSTRATED GREAT MORE LAL COURAGE ONE OF THE FEW POLITICAL APPOINTEES TO STAND BACK, STAND ON PRINCIPLE...
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| 01:32:47 |
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I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PLEASE KEEP YOUR SEATS. THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT WHEN YOU SAW THE THAT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS YOUTH STAND UP FOR FREEDOM...
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| 01:33:32 |
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WHAT IS GOING TO GO ON NEXT AND SHE SHOULD BE AT THE STAGE JUST AS SOON AS THEY CAN CORAL HER FROM THE GREEN ROOM. SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR SEATS FOR JUST...
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