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BUT, ALSO, DEALS WITH HUMAN SEXUALITY AND THE RIGHT TO HAVE A FAMILY, THE RIGHT TO A BASIC EDUCATION. AND TODAY, MOST IMPORTANT, THE RIGHT TO HEALTH...
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JUST OVER AN HOUR. . >> I AM STEVE SOLARS, A FORMER MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO INTRODUCE THE SPEAKER, GUNLTER LEWY IS A
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| 00:01:01 |
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EMERITUS AND HE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK WHICH ATTEMPTS TO DESCRIBE IN CONSIDERABLE DETAIL THE TRAGIC EVENTS WHICH TOOK PLACE IN 195 AND AFTERWARDS IN THE...
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| 00:09:53 |
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TURKS TURKS. THE CONTRO-SEARCY ENGENDERED BY THIS CHARGE LIVES 0 AND HAS ASSUMED RECENTLY NEW VEHEMENCE WITH TURKEY'S APPLICATION FOR ADMISSION TO...
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| 00:43:12 |
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TURKEY. I READ YOUR BOOK, AND I FIND IT QUITE BALANCED. A FEW POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AND RATHER QUICKLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHY YOU CHARACTERIZE...
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| 00:43:29 |
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TRAGEDY OR SPECIAL CALAMISM TY. >> MAY TAKE ONE AT A TIME? >> OKAY. SURE SURE? >> I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NATURAL CAT ASTRO-15 AND...
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| 00:43:55 |
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THE ARMENIANS NOT ONLY SUFFERED WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WERE SUFFERING,
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| 00:44:01 |
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DISEASE, STARVATION BUT THEY LOST THEIR EXISTENCE AS A HISTORIC COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENCE. >> ABOUT THE SPELLING OF NAMES AND THE...
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IN CONTEMPORARY TURKEY CONSTANT I NO PAL AND -- I MEAN, THAT THERE ARE NEW NAMES. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BEST USE THE TERMINOLOGY WHICH WAS. I CHECKED ANY...
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ON THE PERIOD AND FOUND SOME INDEED USED THE NEW NAMES AND SOME USED THE OLD NAMES, SO I DECIDED TO USE THE OLD NAMES. >> I WAS WONDERING WHETHER...
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| 00:45:28 |
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WOULD BE INADEQUATE TIME FOR ASSESSING THE HISTORICAL VALUEDTY OF THE FILM. . I THINK IT GIVES US THE ARMENIAN VERSION. AS YOU KNOW, THE FILM WAS...
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| 00:45:42 |
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BY THE ARMENIAN FOUNDATION FOUNDATION. WHILE IT HAS A FEW TURKS APPEARING AND SORT OF TOKEN QUESTIONERS, BY AND LARGE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, I THINK, TURNING...
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| 00:46:40 |
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THE COURSE OF THE NOVEL, HE EVEN DESCRIBES CONVERSATIONS WHICH ALLEGEDLY TOOK PLACE, I THINK, BETWEEN TALAD BAY AND SOME GERMAN MISSIONARY WHO WAS A...
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| 00:48:06 |
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SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN MADE INTO A FILM. AND THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT AT THE TIME -- IT WAS IN THE 1930s -- PROTESTED VIGOROUSLY IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT...
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| 00:48:52 |
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THE CASE THAT THERE WAS AN ORGANIZED ATTEMPT TO ELIMINATE THEM AND I HAVEN'T READ YOUR BOOK. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S IN THERE. AND OTHER ISSUES,...
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| 00:49:36 |
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TO BE SEWER. BUT NEVERTHELESS, THERE WAS DISCRIMINATION OF VARIOUS SOURCE IN EASTERN ANATOLIA, THEY WERE THE VICTIMS OF ATTACKS BY KURDS. OPAA MOHAMMAD...
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| 00:50:37 |
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PICTURES WHERE YOU SEE THE WARRIORS WITH WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION OVER THEIR SHOULDER AND PRIESTS SITTING RIGHT WITH THEM. SO THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT...
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| 00:51:14 |
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YEAH. I WAS JUST WONDERING,
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| 00:51:17 |
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KURDS WERE INVOLVED IN ARMENIAN KILLINGS, TOO, IN ANATOLI. IN A BETWEEN 1918 AND 1923 AND I AM WONDERING WHY IS NOT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT KURDS KILLING...
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| 00:51:32 |
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TURKS HISTORICALLY? >> I
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| 00:51:35 |
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AM SORRY. I DID NOT GET IT. COULD YOU TELL ME? >> SHE POINTED OUT IN ASKING HER QUESTION THAT KURDS WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN KILLING ARMENIANS. ...
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| 00:51:56 |
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THE ARMENIANS OR BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY FEEL WAS THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BUT SHE SAYS NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THE KURDS
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| 00:52:04 |
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KILLING ARMENIANS AND WHY IS THAT? IS THAT A FAIR? YEAH. >> SORRY. >> I'M SORRY. YES. THE ARMENIANS SAY THAT THE -- THEY DON'T DENY THAT KURDS KILLED...
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| 00:52:29 |
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| 00:52:30 |
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MISSIONARIES, DMROT. SOME KURDISH HISTORIANS. SOME WHO LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE IMAGE OF THE KURDS AND SAY WE FOLLOWED SUPERIOR ORDERS AS IT WERE. IN...
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| 00:54:09 |
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GREAT AN OBSTACLE WAS THIS FOR YOU IN YOUR RESEARCH, AND HOW GREAT AN OBSTACLE DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE FOR FUTURE RESEARCHERS? >> I DID
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| 00:54:21 |
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NOT FIND IT A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE MOST IMPORTANT COURSES, CONTEMPORARY SOURCES AVAILABLE ARE THE ACCOUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE SCENE AND THESE...
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| 00:54:42 |
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WHICH I CAN READ. THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT HAS SOME TRANSLATIONS. I DID NOT FIND THEM USEFUL. THEY TALK ABOUT ARMENIAN GANGS AND THE ARMENIAN ATROCITIES...
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| 00:56:20 |
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OF HISTORY AND HOLDS TRUE, OF COURSE, NOT ONLY FOR THE AMERICAN CONGRESS BUT FOR THE FRENCH PARLIAMENT AND THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND YOU CAN RANDALL...
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| 00:57:44 |
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AND YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW EVEN BEFORE THAT, ARMENIAN BANDS WERE HARASSING THE OTTOMAN LINES OF SUPPLY AND COMMUNICATION BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT,...
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| 00:58:38 |
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RIGHT. AT THE PARIS PEACE CONFERENCE, THE ARMENIANS BRAGGED THE UPRISING OF VANN HAD DISTRACTED ENTIRE TURKISH DIVISIONS WHO HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM...
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| 00:58:56 |
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THAT THIS EVENT WAS A SEMINAL EVENT AND WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN REACHING THE DECISION THAT FINALLY, TO PUT AN SCENTS ALL OF THAT. >> DO YOU HAVE...
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| 00:59:29 |
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AND I WILL NOT DESCRIBE THEM TO YOU HERE -- ARE THE SAME AS FAR AS THEY ARE DESCRIBED BY
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| 00:59:35 |
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BOTH ARMENIANS AND TURKS. THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT HORRIBLE ATROCITIES TOOK PLACE ON BOTH SIDES. >>OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION IS THE HISTORY OF THE 20th...
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| 01:00:03 |
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IT'S OBVIOUS TO ANY THOUGHTFUL PERSON THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GENOCIDE IN ORDER TO BE MORALLY AND POLITICALLY DMROESHLEPLORABLE AND IF ONE...
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| 01:02:32 |
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RADICALIZE THEY HOPE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS TO ME THE ENTIRE SENSE OF IDENTITY OF ARMENIANS...
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| 01:04:48 |
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| 01:04:49 |
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BALACIAN WHO KEEPS WRITING BOOKS AND SIMILAR FABCRATION CONTAINED IN HIS BOOK. DID YOU HAVE ANY DIALOGUE WITH HIM? >> NO. PETER BALACIAN AS I MENTIONED...
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| 01:05:15 |
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BETTER KNOWN ARMENIAN PTOLEMICAL RESEARCH. HE CALLS VOHACAN DAVIAN THE OUTSTANDING SCHOLAR AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THIS SUBJECT...
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| 01:06:24 |
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MUCH, YOU
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| 01:06:30 |
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KNOW. ARMENIAN USE THIS IS THING, MAKING THE GENOCIDE
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| 01:06:34 |
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INDUSTRY. I MEAN... . >> I THINK THAT WAS A COMMENT MORE THAN A QUESTION. IF THERE ARE NO -- NO, WE WELCOME YOUR OBSERVATION AS WE WOULD ANY OTHER THAT...
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| 01:06:58 |
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HIS VIEWS ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ARMENIANS WITH US. I THINK IT TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COURAGE TO CHALLENGE THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM ON ANY SUBJECT,...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.