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CONCERNING THE KANSAS SCHOOL BOARD AND ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE DISCUSSION OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN? >> Reporter: YES. THE STATE OF KANSAS IS A TEN-MEMBER...
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AND EVERY SEAT ON THE BALLOT HAD A CONTESTED PRIMARY. FOUR OF THE SEATS WERE HELD BY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE MAJORITY ON THE BOARD...
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IN THE COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO
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SEE THE KANSAS STANDARDS COPIED. THIS IS CLEARLY A DEFEAT FOR
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THOSE STANDARDS. NOW, IS IT A PERMANENT DEFEAT? NO. BECAUSE THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME IN EIGHT YEARS THAT THE BALANCE OF POWER ON THE STATE BOARD OF ...
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DECISION MEAN FOR INTELLIGENT DESIGN? >> Guest: I THINK JOHN HANNA IS ONE OF THE BEST REPORTERS. I STATED CORRECTLY THAT WILL ONLY PLACE THE STANDARDS...
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LEARN THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF DARWINAN THEORY. SOME ARGUE THIS IS JUST A CONSPIRACY TO PUT THE BIBLE BACK IN SCHOOLS, A CONSPIRACY OF THE RIGHT...
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A RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHY BEING PUSHED INTO THE SCIENCE CLASSROOMS OF AMERICA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
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THEY ALSO LEARN IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP A DECENT UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE NATURE OF SCIENCE WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T. FOR EXAMPLE IN THIS CONTROVERSY,...
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CANNES STANDARDS INCLUDE MORE
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ABOUT EVOLUTION, THEY DON'T DELETE PASSAGES, THEY INCLUDE MORE. THE IDEA THAT THIS IS SOME DEGREE ASHUNIST STRAT DPI TO POINT OUT THE FOS TILL RECORD...
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OBSCURE DEBATES IN FRONT OF STUDENTS
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JUST BECAUSE THERE'S ONE OUT OF 1,000 SCIENTISTS WHO THINKS HE OR SHE HAS AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW. SCIENCE WORKED FROM TESTABLE HYPOTHETICAL. IT WORKS ON...
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VERSUS AN EARTH AND WE LOOK AT UNDER THE
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EARTH OVER THE EARTH AND IN THE ELEMENTS. YOU CANNOT DEAL WITH FROZEN MAMMOTHS ACROSS THE ARCTIC CIRCLE THAT NEED 500 POUNDS OF FOOD TO EAT AND THEY...
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THE OTHER HAND THIS IS THE
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KIND OF ARGUMENT THAT ONE HERE THAT MOST SCIENTISTS UNDERSTAND. I AM NOT A SCIENTIST AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE GOING BUT WHAT I END UP WITH IT A ...
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ONLY 6,000 YEARS OLD BYE NO SCIENTISTS BELIEVE THAT. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, HUMANS AND ANIMALS AND DINOSAURS WOULD BE LIVING ALL ON THE EARTH AT THE...
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A SYNAGOGUE ON THE NAVAL ACADEMY. >> Host:
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DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT INTELLIGENT DESIGN. >> Caller: IF YOU WANT TO ATTACK THAT, FINE, BUT LET'S HAVE BALANCE. THIS IS ALWAYS ATTACKING THE CHRISTIANS,...
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NOR, FRANKLY, ANY OF THE ARGUMENTS. BUT THE
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IMPORTANT POINT IS NOT WHETHER I I MR. LIB LIKES, DARWIN CREATIONISM. IT IS NOT IN THE KANSAS SCIENCE STANDARDS. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ASPECTS OF
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DARWINAN THEORY, INCLUDING THE EXPLOSION AND THINKS THAT ADD UP TO HUGE CHANGES OVER TIME. THOSE ARE DISPUTED IN THE LITERATURE AND KIDS OUGHT TO KNOW...
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IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT INTELLIGENT DESIGN AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH. MR. LYNN APPEARED AT THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION IN WHICH HE MADE A TALK ABOUT...
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TO RAISE MY HAND WHICH I NEVER DO AND SAY DO
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YOU HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? IF WE ALLOW CERTAIN IDEA IS TO BE KEPT THE OF THE SCHOOLS, AND WE SAY, WELL, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THAT IDEA DOESN'T HAVE...
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ONCE A PROFESSION GETS ITSELF
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TOGETHER AND DECIDES WHAT ITS METHODOLOGIES WILL BE, ITS PEER REVIEW PROCESS WILL BE, THEN THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T COME IN AND SAY NO, WE'RE GOING TO...
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THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES. NOW, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO A THOMAS JEFFERSON MOVE AND CUT OUT THAT CHAPTER? IN, I DISAGREE, THIS IS ABOUT WHAT STUDENTS CAN...
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BARRY LYNN AND WE ARE ALSO JOINED BY LOGAN GAGE. SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS? >> Caller: YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT THE CHRISTIANS NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS NOT EVERYBODY...
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SOME PEOPLE DO AND THAT'S FINE, BUT I BELIEVE IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE S.A.T. THEY DON'T NEED IT IN THE
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SCHOOL. >> THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING BIBLICAL CREATIONISM IN THE SCHOOLS. THAT'S A SCARE TACTIC....
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OR REYEAIONISM. >> Guest: SIR, I THINK YOU RAISE A VALID POINT. EVEN SOME OF THE MOST CONTEMPORARY SUPPORTERS OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN LIKE THE MATHEMATICIAN,...
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ON A RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT. >> Host: MARYLAND GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING. I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS. I USED TO TEACH OPINION AND I'M A...
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MEAN THE POINT OF KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL IS
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TO GET A COMPLETE EDUCATION, WHAT A STUPID PERSON YOU TURN OUT TO BE IF YOU DON'T KNOW THERE IS A CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS ISSUE. FIRST OF ALL, EVOLUTION...
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AND ACADEMIC WAY IS IMPORTANT, BUT THE PROBLEM HERE IS WHEN YOU CON IDENTIFIES BIOLOGY AND RELIGION, WHEN YOU KIND OF CONFREIGHT THE TWO, YOU DON'T DO...
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WE ARE FOR MANDATING OR FORCING TEACHERS TO TEACH THAT. THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE KANSAS STANDARDS. THEY DON'T REQUIRE INTELLIGENT THEORIES...
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US OUGHT TO OR SHOULD BE PROMOTING
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THEIR BELIEFS ABOUT THE UNIVERSE. THAT IS NOT TAUGHT IN YOUR AVERAGE BIOLOGY CLASS. THIS IS ABOUT HOW DO WE GET TO THE MULTITUDE OF SPECIES WE HAVE ...
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DOES IT MEAN ANYTHING THAT OUR DNA IS 90% OF CHIMPANZES. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE TO EVOLUTION AND YOU JUST SAID THAT, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T...
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CHILDREN WERE BORN.
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I STUDIED SCIENCE, OBVIOUSLY IN UNDERGRADUATE AND SCHOOL AND GRADUATE SCHOOL. AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT PLATO AND ARISTOTLE...
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ARE GOOD PEER-REVIEWED ARTICLES. I BROUGHT A TON OF FRONT PAGES WITH ME QUESTIONING MAJOR
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ASPECTS OF DARWINAN THEORY. IT'S NOT TRUE. THESE THINGS AREN'T IN PEER REVIEWED LITERATURE AND THAT'S WHY STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT THEM. >>...
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OF NEWTON AND DARWIN'S THINKING BUT THE ESSENCE IS TO KEEP ON IT STUDYING, KEEP ASKING -- IS THERE A PURPOSE TO ANY OF THIS? IS THERE A CREATION. ...
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Guest: WELL, YOU MEAN, HOW DID
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WE GET INVOLVED IN THE ISSUE IN GENERAL? >> Host: YES. >> Guest: MORE THROUGH AN ACADEMIC FREEDOM STANDPOINT. IN 1976, MY BOSS READ AN ARTICLE IN THE...
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A SCIENTIST DEAN KENYON. HE WAS ONE OF THE LEADING PEOPLE ON
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THE ORIGIN OF LIFE AND HE HAD A THEORY
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CALLED BIOCHEMICAL
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PRE DESTINATION AND IT WAS A NATIONALISTIC AND MATERIALISTIC AND HE CAME TO REPUDIATE HIS THEORY AND BECAME AN ADVOCATE OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN. THIS...
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OF A PARTICULAR VIEWPOINT. WE WERE INVOLVED IN A CASE
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IN CALIFORNIA WHERE A WOMAN TRIED TO MODIFY THIS VIEW AND HAVE A COURSE ON PHILOSOPHY OF DESIGN, BUT THE CONTENT TURNED OUT TO BE A LOT OF CREATION SCIENCE...
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THUNE OF
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BAD SCIENCE. >> Host: YOU CAN LEARN MORE AT WWW.AU.ORG. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE DISCOVERY INSTITUTE. THAT'S WWW.DISCOVERY.ORG. PENNSYLVANIA THANKS...
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I GUESS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THE PROBLEM THAT -- IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY SCARED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, HAVE THE IDEA OF INTELLIGENT...
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BIG BELIEVER IN ANY ONE PARTICULAR BIBLE BUT I HAVE A STRONG BELIEF THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF, NOT NECESSARILY PLAN, BUT SOME OF SOURCE OF INTERJECTION....
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AGAIN, I WOULD SAY, HAS GREAT DIFFICULTY FINDING PEER REVIEW PUBLICATIONS TO PUT IT IN. BUT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT. WE ARE HAVING A DEBATE ON...
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STANDARDS COMMITTEE,
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BOTH REWRITES OF THE STANDARDS. LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S MY
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SENSE THAT THE DIS"DISCOVERY" INSTITUTE IS
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PICKING AT EVOLUTION JUST SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THEIR FUNDAMENTALIST VIEWS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE. IT'S ALL ABOUT RELIGION. BARRY,...
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IN NATURE. AND ALSO THE DEFAULT POSITION IS THE DESIGN POSITION. THE MOST MAIM NEWS DARWINIST IN THE WORLD TODAY HAS SAID BIOLOGY IS A STUDY OF LIVING...
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JOINS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS COLLEAGUES WHO AGREE WITH THAT VIEW. LOOKS LIKE ONE THING, IT IS SOMETHING ELD AND WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE SOMETHING...
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YEAR, BUT THAT WON'T SATISFY YOU. >> Guest: FILLING THEM IN, THERE'S STILL A MAJOR PROBLEM, 530 MILLION YEARS AGO, THE EXPLOSION, THE ORIGIN OF
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ALL THE MAJOR BASIC BOY PLANTS COME INTO EXISTENCE AT THE SAME
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GEOLOGICAL TIME. >> AGAIN, THIS ISSUE OF THE APPEARANCE OF ALL THESE NEW FILA AT THE SAME TIME HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. >> Guest: WHAT ABOUT BIOLOGY TEXTBOOKS....
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BECAUSE STUDENTS READ ONE TEXT, OH, THERE'S A PROBLEM. THEY READ ONE SENTENCE AND NOT ENOUGH TIME DEVOTED TO IT.
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THIS IS AN INVERSION OF DARWIN'S TREE OF LIFE. >> Guest: MY UNDERSTANDING AND AGAIN I AM NOT A SCIENTIST. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A BIG ISSUE THIS IS...
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INTO EXISTENCE AT THE SAME TIME. >> Host: WASHINGTON GO AHEAD. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I ENJOY THIS CONVERSATION, AND THE GENTLEMAN...
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GREAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT FEEL THERE IS THROUGH EVIDENCE SOME SORT OF HIGHER ORDER. I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO ANY RELIGION AND I
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THINK MR. LYNN DOES AN
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HONORABLE THING BY SEPARATING CHURCH AND STATE. WE CAN ONLY LOOK TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TYRANTS ARE ALLOWED TO BREATHE THEIR RELIGION...
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THAT MAKES OUR YOUNG PEOPLE LESS COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD. THIS PIECE OF THE ISSUE, SIR, OF WHAT SHOULD WE TEACH IN SCIENCE CLASS...
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THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, BECAUSE OF
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THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH, A TRUE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE ISSUE OF CREATIONISM WHICH CLEARLY IS A RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT AND IT DOESN'T HURT THE INTEGRITY...
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TO CRITIQUE. >> Host: WHERE DO WE GO AS FAR AS THE KANSAS DECISION. >> Guest: FROM HERE, I THINK THIS WILL LIKELY BE OVERTURNED BY THE NEWLY ELECTED SCHOOL...
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SOME FUNDAMENTALIST KRI PARTICULAR OF
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DARWINISM. PEOPLE WHO BUY TICKETS TO THE LAST ROLLING STONES CONCERT AND HAVE DONE IT TEN TIMES, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. >> IT WON'T GO AWAY, BUT THERE'S...
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IN THE STATE OF UTAH THEY DEBATED WHETHER TO INCLUDE A CRITIQUE OF RELIGION, THAT MORMON LEGISLATE TOUR DECIDED NO LET'S NOT DO IT. IN OTHER COMMUNITYS...
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GOVERNORS, MIKE MUCK KA BE, JANET NAPOLITANO, CHRIS GREGOIRE, AND HALEY BARBOUR OF MISSISSIPPI AND WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE. BETWEEN
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.