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GOOD MORNING. >> Host: WHO DECIDES WHEN TO
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DISPATCH A U.N. PEACEKEEPING PROCESS, AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS? WHAT DO YOU
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GO THROUGH UP THERE IN NEW YORK? >> Guest: IT'S
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A DECISION OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL, THE 15-MEMBER COURT COUNCIL. THE FIVE PERMANENT MEMBERS OF THE
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U.S./U.K., CHINA, RUSSIA HAVE VETO
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POWER. IF 11 COUNTRIES AGREE AND NOBODY DISAGREES, THEN A PEACEKEEPING
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MISSION CAN BE DISPATCHED. IT CAN BE EITHER DISPATCHED UNDER A U.N. COMMAND CONTROL, THE SO-CALLED BLUE HELMET MISSION, OR IT CAN BE WHAT'S JUST CALLED...
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VERY BEGINNING WHICH IS JUST MONITORING A GROUP OF UNARMED PEOPLE IN A VISIBLE POSITION WITH A PAIR OF BINOCULARS, CONFIRMING FOR TWO SIDES THAT HAVE...
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CEASE-FIRE THAT SIDE "A" HAS NOT ADVANCED OVERNIGHT AND CONFIRMING THAT SIDE "B" AND DOING THE SAME THING THE OTHER WAY. THE PROCESS THEN GOES THROUGH...
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SINCE 2003. THERE HARLAND, BROADEN THIS OUT. HOW MANY PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS AND TROOPS ARE THERE AROUND THE WORLD CURRENTLY AS WE SPEAK, AND THEN...
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MIDDLE EAST GETS A LOT OF ATTENTION FOR GOOD REASON. IT HAS POTENTIAL TO HAVE A WORLDWIDE EFFECT. BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL HUMAN SUFFERING, MOST PEOPLE...
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FORCE. THE BLUE LINE BETWEEN LEBANON AND ISRAEL. IT'S A VERY SMALL FORCE THAT CURRENTLY HAS
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AROUND 2,000 PEOPLE SCATTERED ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BORDER. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MILITARY CAPABILITY OF ITS OWN. AND IT'S AN OBSERVER FORCE....
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WHO WOULD BE IN CHARGE? >> Guest: OKAY. WELL, THE FIRST THING WITH ANY OF THESE OPERATIONS IS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE MANDATE SK THE FORCE MATCHES...
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WHICH ARE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR EXTERNAL ASSISTANCE TO OBSERVE THAT NOTHING HAS GONE WRONG, LIKE WE HAVE ON THE GOLAN HEIGHTS WITH ISRAEL AND SYRIA, THEN...
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BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO VETO THE PROCESS NO MATTER WHAT ISRAEL
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DOES. NOW, YOU MENTIONED THE GOLAN HEIGHTS. ISRAEL CAME OUT AND SAID THEY WANTED THAT FOR A SECURITY BUFFER ZONE, YET THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL, ONE OF...
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IDEA OF A TWO-STATE SOLUTION WAS A U.N. IDEA, RESOLUTION 181 WAY
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BACK IN 1948. NOW, NOT EVERYTHING WE DO IS VETOED. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THE UNITED STATES IS VERY SYMPATHETIC TO ISRAEL, BUT THERE ARE STEPS THAT CAN...
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PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO ADDRESS AND THE ROOT OF
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THE MINDSET, WHERE IT COMES FROM, WHY THEY ACT THE WAY THEY DO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WORLDWIDE THREAT. ISRAEL IS LIKE A CANARY IN THE MIND. AND THE MINE...
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TWO ELEMENTS TO GETTING TO PEACE ALMOST EVERYWHERE. THE FIRST IS THAT A SUBSTANTIAL CHUNK OF PEOPLE ARE MORE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE AND WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED...
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TO PAST GRIEVANCE. THE OTHER IS THAT THERE ARE REASONABLY CAPABLE STATE, CAPABLE OF DELIVERING THE PROPER BEHAVIOR OF THEIR COUNTRIES. AND I THINK THAT...
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AND CALLS FOR THE DISBANDING AND DISARMAMENT OF ALL LEBANESE AND NON-LEBANESE MILITIAS. DOES SEVERAL OTHER THINGS. WOULD PEACEKEEPERS EVER HAVE A ROLE...
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STATES. I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT WHAT'S GOING ON NOW IN LEBANON IS NECESSARILY GOING TO PUSH US IN THAT DIRECTION. NOW, THAT WILL BE DECIDED BY THE COUNTRIES...
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NO EDUCATION ON THE MIDDLE EAST, ABSOLUTELY
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ILLITERATE, LIVES IN A TRAILER
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PARK PROBABLY AND ALL THE EDUCATION
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HE GETS ON THE MIDDLE EAST IS FROM CNN OR MSNBC OR FOX NEWS, ABSOLUTELY NO EDUCATION ON THE MIDDLE EAST. IF HE KNEW OR IF THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF...
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FAIRLY CONSISTENT IN SUPPORTING THAT SINCE 1948. AT VARIOUS
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TIMES, THE DIFFERENT PARTIES TO THE CONFLICT, INCLUDING ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS, HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THAT. NOW, VARIOUS OF THEIR INTERNATIONAL BACKERS...
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YEAH. THE ISRAELIS HAVEN'T CALLED US TO TELL US THEY'RE THINKING EXACTLY. BUT I WOULD GUESS WHAT THEY MEAN IS THAT THEY DON'T THINK THAT HEZBOLLAH...
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BE IMPLEMENTED, THE DISARMING OF THE LEBANESE MILITIAS, IF THEY ARE FORCIBLY DISARMED. THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE SORT OF MILITARY MUSCLE THAT NATO NATIONS...
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SUCCESSFUL? >> Guest: I THINK THE CLUE WITH A LOT OF MIDDLE EAST ACTIONS IS NOT TO GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN THE HERE AND NOW, THE ACTION AND THE REACTION....
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ALL, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LEBANON THAT IS A CAPABLE, COHERENT STATE THAT CAN CONTROL ITS OWN BORDERS. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IN THE INTEREST OF LEBANON,...
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BE BENEFITING OFF OF
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THE
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DESTABLIZATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST AND HOW NO MATTER IF IT'S IRAN OR ISRAEL OR
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THE UNITED STATES OR HEZBOLLAH, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE BENEFITING OFF OF THE DESTABLIZATION AND RUN BY AAUTHORIZE TEARIAN CONSERVATIVES IN EACH OF THESE...
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FOR THE UNITED STATES. IN THE
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MOST CRUDE SENSE, THIS INSTABILITY PUSHES UP THE PRICE OF OIL, AND THAT MAKES THE IMPORTERS OF OIL, INCLUDING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, MAKES THEIR SITUATION...
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WORLD. SO OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU HAVE SAID, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY A MAJOR MILITARY ROLE IN THE DISARMING
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OF HEZBOLLAH. BUT WHAT CAN OUR ALLIES IN EUROPE AND ALL OVER THE WORLD, FRANKLY, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO HELP STABILIZE THE SITUATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST?...
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PALESTINE IS IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THAT
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THEY CAN PLAY A POSITIVE ROLE. CERTAINLY IN LEBANON, THEY CAN PLAY A MAJOR ROLE EITHER IN SUPPORTING A FORCE AND IN ALSO TAKING THE MEASURES THAT ALLOW...
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INSTRUCTOR. IF YOU LOOK FURTHER ON SOME OF THESE PHOTOS, A POLICE RECRUIT WEARING A GERMAN CRUN FORM GETTING INSTRUCTIONS FROM A FRENCH POLICE TRAINER....
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REMARKABLE RECORD OF SUCCESS IN PEACEKEEPING. THERE'S RECENTLY BEEN A REVIEW OF IT BY THE U.S. RAND CORPORATION AFFILIATED WITH THE PENTAGON WHICH...
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ON HEZBOLLAH'S BUILDUP OF AMMUNITION AND
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BUNKERS AND OF ALL THE PREPARATIONS THEY HAVE MADE FOR WAR? HAVE THEY REPORTED THAT TO THE
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U.N.? >> Guest:
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YEAH. SURE. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED REGULARLY TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL AND, OF COURSE, HEZBOLLAH'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE VOLUME...
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INCREASING. THEY'VE HAD A PRESENCE ON THE GROUND SINCE THEY LARGELY DISPLACED THE MILITIAS, AND YEAH ISRAEL WAS TRYING TO DEAL WITH THEM FOR 20 YEARS....
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THAT, AND YOU HAVE THE MILITARY CAPABILITY TO DELIVER. I THINK IN ALL THESE PLACES WHERE IT WORKS WELL FROM, YOU KNOW, THE MOZAMBIQUES AND CAMBODIAS...
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ON, IT WORKS WELL BECAUSE THE MISSION MAKES SENSE, AND WE HAVE A FORCE THAT CAN DO THE JOB. WHERE PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WHICH IS BASICALLY...
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YOU CAN GET IT BACK TO
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PEACEKEEPERS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> Caller: WELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT THE U.N. GOT INVOLVED, AND I THINK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OUGHT TO HELP...
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USE EFFECTIVELY AND FIND A SOLUTION
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TO THE PROBLEMS WE FACE AROUND THE WORLD PARTICULARLY THE MIDDLE EAST. BUT I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSITION OF THE UNITED STATES PARTICULARLY...
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THEN IT BECOMES ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. THE U.N. SO I THINK THE REASON WE'RE
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MAKING PROGRESS IN PLACES LIKE THE CONGO WHERE WE HAVE AN ELECTION AT THE END OF THIS WEEK IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THE COUNCIL BEHIND US. EVEN THOUGH...
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BACK. >>
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Host:
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