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THIS IS THE FINAL FORUM OF OUR SERIES PRESENTED BY THE CAL INSTITUTE IN MONTEREY BAY. WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US IN HIGH HOMETOWN
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HERE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK EVENING ALL OF OUR SPONSORS WHO WILL BE HONORED AT THE END OF OUR FINAL PROGRAM FOR ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT DURING THE...
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PRINCETON UNIVERSITY IN 1958, RECEIVED HIS
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GRADUATE DEGREES FROM YALE UNIVERSITY IN DIVINITY AND LAW. BEFORE SEEKING PUBLIC OFFICE HE PRACTICED LAW IN NEW YORK CITY AND ST. LOUIS. HE BEGAN HIS...
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OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY. THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, WE KNOW THERE HAS BEEN AN CLASSIC INTENTION BETWEEN HOW DO WE PROTECT OUR SECURITY AND HOW DO...
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WORRY ABOUT HOW WILLING AMERICANS SEEM TO BE TRADING OFF THOSE PRIVACY AND OTHER SECURITY OR PERSONAL LIBERTY MATTERS IN THE NAME OF SECURITY. BUT WHETHER...
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IS NOT ONE THAT
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MAKES PEOPLE COMFORTABLE. ON THE OTHER HAND, AS WE HAVE SEEN VERY RECENTLY IN CANADA, THESE CELLS ARE POPPING UP. TERRORISM IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROBLEM...
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WOULD NOT BE CENTRALIZED. THE CONCERN RAISED AND I HAVE A CADO INSTITUTE REPORT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY A CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK, THAT ISSUED A CRITICAL...
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THE DIRKSEN BUILDING NEAR THE CAPITOL AND ASKING HIM, THIS WAS DURING THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION, IF WE WOULD HAVE A DOMESTIC FUROR SITUATION IN THE...
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IT? >> WE WERE BRIEFED. I WAS BRIEFED ONCE AND OBVIOUSLY CAN I NOT GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE BREEFLING. THERE WERE QUESTIONS RAISED AT THE TIME AND...
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ABOUT ACTIVITIES. BUT GOING TO YOUR QUESTION, THE PRESIDENT ASSERTS HE HAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE ACTIONS THAT HE HAS AND HE ASSERTS...
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OF POWER? >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH CONGRESSED IN NATIONAL SECURITY MATTERS, IF THEY ARE BRIEFED ON SAY A SECURITY MATTER OR AN INTERCEPT TYPE...
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VIOLATING THE LAW IF THEY DID THAT. IT WOULD BE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF NATIONAL SECURITY CHAOTIC IF EVERY POLITICIAN RUSHED TO THE PRESS AND SAID,...
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IT. WHAT DO YOU DO? >> THE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL IN THAT REGARD IN PARTICULAR. THERE ARE EIGHT PEOPLE WHO ARE -- THIS MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT...
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INFORMATION WITH ANYBODY. SO, FIRST OF ALL, YOU COME INTO THIS MEETING ILL PREPARED TO REALLY PROIPPED THE KIND OF FEEDBACK OR ANALYSIS OR SOME SORT...
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ACT, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE PROTECTION FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SAYING THIS IS JUST NOT THE APPROPRIATE USE OF IT. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU COULD HAVE...
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WRONG WITH THAT? IN A RARE ACT OF BIPARTISANSHIP, THE SPEAKER AND THE MINORITY LEADER CAME TOGETHER TO EXPRESS THEIR OUTRAGE, THAT THIS HAD TAKEN PLACE...
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BUT A CONGRESSMAN CAN'T HIDE, IN MY OPINION, CAN'T HIDE A CRIMINAL ACT BY HAVING IT OR EVIDENCE OF IT EXIST IN THE CAPITOL. I DON'T SEE THAT. IT...
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LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS INCIDENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN CANADA AND RELATED TO BORDER SECURITY. ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS ON THE IMMIGRATION BILL IS WE...
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ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS. NOW THAT WE HAVE WHAT TOOK PLACE IN CANADA AND THE TERRORISTS THAT WERE THERE, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS YOU HAVE A 4,000-MILE...
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ADEQUATE SURVEILLANCE, AERIAL AND ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE ALONG THE BORDER. THERE ARE ELECTRONIC MEASURES THAT CAN BE USED TO MONITOR ACTIVITY THAT...
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OF CANADA, WITH LAKES AND SO ON, THE TWO OCEANS, THE SOUTHERN BORDER, CONTAINER SHIPS. IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IT. FURTHERMORE, THE SITUATION...
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| 00:28:52 |
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STHEPS, IT IS A VERY NARROW ISSUE. IT RELATES TO SOMEBODY IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY, EITHER BEING CALLED BY SOMEBODY IN THE U.S. OR CALLING SOMEBODY IN THE...
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| 00:29:06 |
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BELIEVED AL QAEDA RELATIONSHIP, A VERY NARROW CASE. IT IS NOT THE ORDINARY SITUATION AT ALL. THE PRESIDENT'S POSITION AND THE ADMINISTRATION'S POSITION...
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SELECTED 750 BILLS HE SOONED THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO ABIDE BY PERSONALLY. ANY TIME A PRESIDENT TAKES AN ACT THAT MANY TIMES AND PUTS HIMSELF ABOVE THE...
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BASICALLY SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO ABIDE BY THIS. WHAT DOES CONGRESS DO IN THAT SITUATION? YOU HAVE A LAW PASSED. THE PRESIDENT SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO...
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| 00:32:01 |
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IT TAKES TO RESOLVE THE MATTER ONCE AND FOR ALL.
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| 00:32:04 |
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IT ALSO SHOULD BE TAKEN UP IN THE COURTS THEMSELVES. SOMEBODY OUGHT TO BE GOING THROUGH THE COURTS WITH THESE QUESTIONS AS WELL BECAUSE THERE, TOO,...
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| 00:32:35 |
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THIS IS THE QUESTION, THE KIND OF QUESTION THAT COMES UP IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS. I'M NOT SURE
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THAT THE COURTS ARE THE ONES TO RESOLVE IT. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THE VOTERS SHOULD. >> LET ME MOVE ON TO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT IS INVOLVED IN ALL...
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| 00:33:09 |
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LAST WEEK, "WE ARE LOSING IT IRAQ TO SECTARIAN THOECRASTS AND TYRANT. THE THE INSURGENTS ARE BEING REPLACED BY ANARCHY. I DON'T BELIEVE THE AMERICAN...
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| 00:34:05 |
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BY SOME MAGNITUDE. I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN SAY OK, SORRY, WE HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, GOOD BYE. I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY OUR COMMITMENT IN IRAQ...
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GOVERNMENT TOGETHER.
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WE HAVE NOW DONE THAT. WHAT'S THE NEXT MOTIVATION TO STAY? WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE AND SAY WE HAVE BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH? I'M NOT ADVOCATING IMMEDIATE...
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| 00:36:18 |
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MALEI. IT BECAME THE SYMBOL OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IT VIETNAM. IS THIS GOING TO BE THE SYMBOL OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN IRAQ? >> I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T...
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| 00:36:55 |
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EVERYBODY IN OUR ARMED FORCES WITH THIS BRUSH OR TO PAINT THE WHOLE COUNTRY WITH THIS BRUSH. >> TOM? >> WELL, WE WERE WITH HUNDREDS OF ARMED FORCES...
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| 00:37:20 |
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COVER RUN AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE FACTS.
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| 00:37:23 |
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AND IF WE DON'T GET THE FACTS THIS THEN GIBBS A MELAI OR ANOTHER EXPERIENCE LIKE ABU GHRAIB THAT HAS SO DISCOLORED PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS OF OUR EXPERIENCE...
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| 00:38:14 |
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SUPPORTIVE OF IT? HOW LONG CAN THIS GO ON, JACK? >> I DON'T KNOW. IT IS OBVIOUSLY AN UNPOPULAR WAR. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT PEOPLE REALLY HAVEN'T FOCUSED...
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| 00:38:42 |
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WHAT? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? AND I THINK IF YOU WERE TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO YOU THINK THIS WAR WAS A GOD IDEA...
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| 00:39:30 |
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AND THEY ARE COMING INTO -- WE ARE COMING INTO ANOTHER HURRICANE SEASON AT HOME. WE SPENT $500 BILLION AND BORROWED VIRTUALLY EVERY DOLLAR AND THAT...
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| 00:40:39 |
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NEIGHBORS AROUND IRAQ AND HOPEFULLY BRING THEM IN TO PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT AS WELL? >> I'M A BELIEVER IN THE U.N. I THINK THAT IT DOES SOME REAL GOOD....
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| 00:41:08 |
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VETO. SO YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE AN AN EXTENSION, FROM RUSSIA, CHINA, FRANCE, THE U.K., THE U.S. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ACTION OUT OF THE...
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| 00:43:07 |
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YOU ARE TRYING TO SERVE TO BEGIN WITH. >>
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| 00:43:10 |
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I'M GOING TO TURN TO THE QUESTIONS HERE FROM THE AUDIENCE IN A MOMENT, BUT LET ME ASK YOU, WE ARE FACING AN UNPRECEDENTED SET OF CRISES. I THINK WE...
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| 00:43:31 |
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LIKE DEFICIT, RECORD DEFICIT, ISSUES LIKE HIGH GAS PRICESES ISSUES LIKE HEALTHCARE, ISSUES LIKE HOMELAND SECURITY AND PREPARING FOR ANOTHER KATRINA OR...
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| 00:44:32 |
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IT DOESN'T EXIST. BOTH PARTIES ARE APPEALING TO THEIR BASE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE BASE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE...
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| 00:47:11 |
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COUNTY HERALD. LAWTON DOWD, NEWS DIRECTOR FOR KSPW TELEVISION. FRAN GABLER OUR VETERAN QUESTION REVIEW TEAM AND PETIE HELFRIC AND MIKE NELMETH OF...
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WITH THEM. I ALSO AGAIN WANT TO THANK OUR SPONSORS FOR SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM AND SUPPORTING THIS LECTURE SERIES. WE COULD NOT DO THIS WITHOUT THEIR...
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| 00:48:50 |
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THE PARTISAN NATURE OF POLITICS AT THIS POINT? >> PRETTY GOOD QUESTION. >> BLAME IS THE BIG DEAL IN WASHINGTON, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS THE BIG DEAL...
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WASHINGTON? PROBABLY
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NOT. >> TOM? >> WELL, I THINK IT REALLY WOULD DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. WE PULL TOGETHER BUT WE ALSO CAME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THERE WERE...
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| 00:49:44 |
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PROBLEMS. I DON'T THINK WE COULD EVER CREATE A FAIL-SAFE SYSTEM. WE
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| 00:49:48 |
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WILL NEVER FIND A WAY TO MAKE US TOTALLY INVULNERABLE TO WHATEVER SCENARIO WE COULD ENVISION. BUT I THINK WE LEARN AND GO AS WE LEARN. STILL WE KNOW...
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| 00:50:45 |
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BE BEHIND A TERRORIST ATTACK OF THE WE THINK OF IT IN OTHER CONTEXTS. AND I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT REMINDER OF THE NEED
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| 00:50:54 |
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FOR SENSITIVITY AND EMPATHY AND I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. >> BOY, I DON'T KNOW. NO, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY, X NUMBER OF...
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| 00:51:22 |
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ON AN 85-YEAR-OLD GRANDMA WITH BLUE HAIR? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW -- I UNDERSTAND THE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS OF TREATING EVERYBODY THE SAME. BUT IN REALITY,...
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| 00:52:21 |
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TO LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL IS ON THE BASIS OF
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YOUR EXPERIENCE AND
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YOUR BEST JUDGMENT DEPLOY YOUR RESOURCES WHERE THEY ARE MOST LIKELY TO DO GOOD. NOT JUST SPREAD THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY
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DISAGREEMENT THEN. WHAT I THOUGHT YOU
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| 00:52:38 |
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WERE SUGGESTING IS THAT IS THERE A SORT OF A SIMPLE WAY
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| 00:52:42 |
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TO GET THROUGH OUR ISSUES INVOLVING SECURITY AT PORTS AND AIRPORTS IN PARTICULAR WITH PROFILING THAT MAY BE RACIALLY MOTIVATED -- NOT MOTIVATED IN...
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| 00:52:55 |
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PREJUDICE NECESSARILY BUT I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE TO LOOK AT RACE AS A WAY WITH WHICH TO MAKE SOME DETERMINATION WITH REGARD TO TERRORIST ACTIVITY....
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| 00:53:29 |
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SIGNIFICANTLY FROM POST IRAQ INVASION/WAR. THE U.N. DOES SOME VERY USEFUL
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| 00:53:42 |
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THINGS. OBVIOUSLY THE AGENCIES OF THE U.N. IN FIGHTING HIV/AIDS, FOR EXAMPLE, DOES THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAM, DOES SOME VERY IMPORTANT THINGS. BUT ONE...
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| 00:55:28 |
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DIFFERENCES, THEY PLAY AN INVALUABLE ROLE AND I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM. >> WHAT ARE POLITICALLY VIABLE SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS...
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ECONOMIC COMPETITORS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO SOME OF THE MOST PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS IN THE WORLD TO BUY FOREIGN OIL TO SUBSIDIZE THE VERY PEOPLE THAT...
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| 00:56:11 |
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IT STARTS WITH THAT. IT IS JUST A COMPLETE FOLLOW HI WITH REGARD TO OUR LONG-TERM NATIONAL BEST INTERESTS. BUT IN THE SHORT TERM I THINK THAT THERE ARE...
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| 00:57:50 |
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THAT. RICHARD NIXON, WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE, FACED THE SAME ISSUE AND SAID WE ARE GOING TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT BY 1980. NOW GEORGE BUSH IS FACING THIS...
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| 00:58:33 |
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POLITICALLY VIABLE. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS BASIC SUPPLY AND DEMAND. IF WE THINK WE SHOULD SUBSIDIZE CHEAP ENERGY, THE IDEA FORTUNATELY ABANDONED...
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| 01:00:23 |
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IT INSTINCTIVELY THAT WE CAN'T KIND OF PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE AS OPPOSED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, GRABBING WHAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF TODAY? THAT SEEMS TO BE...
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| 01:00:59 |
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IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. THE AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS HAVE NOW ANNOUNCED THEIR INTENTIONS TO BUILD THESE...
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| 01:01:17 |
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WHAT THAT DOES IS GIVE DRIVERS A CHOICE. AND THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF DISCUSSION UNDER WAY RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHETHER LARGE RETAILERS LIKE WAL-MART AND COSTCO...
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| 01:02:36 |
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I BETTER HEAR AGAIN. >> RIGHT DOWN YOUR ALLEY IN TERMS WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE CONGRESS. SOME REPRESENTATIVES SEEM TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON PARTISANSHIP...
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| 01:02:53 |
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RIGHTS. MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THIS, I THINK BOTH OF YOU AGREE THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN WASHINGTON AS PARTISAN IS IT IS TODAY. WHY
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| 01:03:02 |
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IS THAT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED? WHEN WE WENT INTO CONGRESS, I THINK ALL THEY OF US, THERE WAS AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE, WORK...
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| 01:03:42 |
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KEEP THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR DISTRICTS AND THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID FOR A CONGRESSWOMAN THAT COMES HOME BUT IT LEAVES LESS TIME FOR THE BUSINESS OF...
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| 01:06:01 |
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CAMPAIGN FORMAT REFORM IS WITH WHAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, NAMELY GIVING
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| 01:06:07 |
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CANDIDATES, ALMOST COMPELLING THEM TO SPEAK IN FIVE, 10, 15-MINUTE SLUGS, MAKING THAT KIND OF TIME AVAILABLE TO THEM. I THINK TOM IS RIGHT ABOUT THE...
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| 01:08:48 |
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NO WAY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH ANY AUTHORITY. I THINK IT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT OR ASSUMPTION THAT HILLARY CLINTON ON OUR SIDE IS THE CONVENTIONAL...
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| 01:09:08 |
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TO MAKE A DECISION, WHICH I'M SURE SHE WILL MAKE IN THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS. THERE IS NO LACK OF OTHERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT. ON THE REPUBLICAN...
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| 01:10:11 |
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TO WIN.
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| 01:10:12 |
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BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE, I TAKE SOME HAS IN THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE EVEN MORE FECKLESS . >> MOVING RIGHT ALONG, THE GOVERNMENT...
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| 01:10:57 |
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INDICATION AS TO WHAT THE INFORMATION WOULD SUGGEST. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ANY TIME THERE'S A, AN INVOLVEMENT OF THIS KIND BY THE GOVERNMENT...
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| 01:11:12 |
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THEY UNFOLD. >> SHOULD REPORTERS BE JAILED? IF THEY DON'T REVEAL THEIR SOURCES? >> I DON'T KNOW. I REALLY DON'T, LEON. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN...
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| 01:11:35 |
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THEY WRITE AND SO ON. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I DON'T HAVE --
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| 01:11:39 |
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I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON THE SOURCE THING. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT IS GOING TO CONFERENCE. HOW DO YOU THINK IMMIGRATION POLICY...
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| 01:12:06 |
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PROBABLY COME TO A POINT REPRESENTING AS MUCH OF A CONSENSUS AS YOU CAN REACH. AND WHAT THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT THERE'S NO PRACTICAL WAY TO EITHER IMPRISON...
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| 01:12:21 |
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ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THAT THERE PROBABLY HAS TO BE SOME FORM OF GUEST WORKER PROGRAM. THAT THERE HAS TO BE GREATER SURVEILLANCE AND SOME EFFORT TO...
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| 01:13:24 |
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KEEP HANGING. SO, I WOULDN'T GIVE
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| 01:13:28 |
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UP ON PASSING LEGISLATION BUT I DO THINK THE SENATE BILL, THE SO-CALLED BALANCED APPROACH, IS THE APPROACHMENT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS FEASIBLE,...
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| 01:14:06 |
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COULD VERY WELL BE A VEHICLE FOR PRESERVING LIFE OR PROTECTING LIFE IN THE FUTURE. THESE ISSUES ALL SEEM TO BE, TO COME DOWN WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR...
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| 01:15:00 |
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CELL RESEARCH. IT NOT AVAILABLE TO HUMANS. THINK WHAT IT WOULD MEAN -- AND I'M TOLD IN LIKE A YEAR OR TWO PARKINSON'S COULD BE CURED. THINK ABOUT...
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| 01:17:05 |
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RELIGIOUS POSITION. THE IDEA THAT THE CELLS ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF A HUMAN BEING IS A RELIGIOUS POSITION AND IT IS HARD TO GET PEOPLE
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| 01:17:13 |
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OFF OF THAT. IT IS A PURE RELIGIOUS POSITION. SO, MY ARGUMENT AGAINST IT IS EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, ISN'T IT REALLY A VIOLATION OF THE SEPARATION...
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| 01:17:55 |
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A WHILE. BUT I THINK WITH THE TREMENDOUS WORLD BEEN SO OVERWHELMINGLY IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT
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| 01:18:03 |
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WE ARE DOING. AND FRANKLY FOR A COUNTRY THAT CLAIMS TO
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| 01:18:07 |
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BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE FREEDOMS AND INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES AND DUE PROCESS MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GUILTY OR INNOCENT OR WHAT....
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| 01:18:49 |
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DETAINING THEM AND WHERE ELSE
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| 01:18:52 |
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ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM? WHERE DO WE SEND THEM IF NOT GUANTANAMO? SO, I THINK GUANTANAMO IS THE PLACE THEY ARE AND I DON'T SEE THEM GOING ANY
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| 01:19:04 |
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ARE ELSE. >>
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| 01:19:05 |
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BUT IS THERE NO DUE PROCESS FOR PRISONERS? >> FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A MILITARY SITUATION WHO ARE ARRESTED, DETAINED, IMPRISONED, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE...
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| 01:19:26 |
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RIGHTS IN THE COURT SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
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| 01:19:31 |
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ARRESTED FOR CRIMES IN THE U.S. HAVE. >> WHAT WAS IRAN ALL ABOUT IN THE LATE 1970'S WHEN HOSTAGES WERE HELD AND THEY -- WE WERE ACCUSED OF BEING CRIMINALS....
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| 01:19:55 |
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THE SAME RETRIBUTIONS AND RESPONSE ON THE PART OF OTHERS, RIGHT OR WRONG, IF OUR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HELD. AND FIRST FROM THE POINT OF VIEW ...
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| 01:20:34 |
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MAY BE FROM, SAUDI ARABIA. THEY CAN BE WORSE OFF THERE THAN THEY ARE IN GUANTANAMO. SO, IT
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| 01:20:42 |
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IS A, IT IS STILL A MILITARY CONFRONTATION AND YOU KEEP THEM THERE AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> SO YOU WOULD WAIT AT LEAST UNTIL THE IRAQ...
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| 01:21:09 |
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THE CLOCK, LEON. BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE TIME. FIRST
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| 01:21:14 |
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OF ALL, THIS WAS JUST A YEAR AFTER 9/11. WE WERE TOLD THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN
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| 01:21:20 |
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HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD BE USING THEM AGAINST US. WITH THE MEMORY OF 9/11
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| 01:21:28 |
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SO VIVID LY IN THE MINDS OF MOST OF THOSE THAT WERE CALLED UPON TO VOTE THE DECISION WAS MADE. BUT I THINK IT MISUNDERSTOOD IN ANOTHER CONTEXT. THE...
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| 01:22:30 |
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LEON, YOU ARE A REAL PIECE OF WORK. I THINK THAT THE BASIC PROBLEM WAS AN INTELLIGENCE FAILURE. LOOK, YOU CAN ARGUE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD MORE TROOPS,...
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| 01:22:56 |
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SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED FOR THIS AND THAT. TACTICAL KIND OF QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO ANSWER THAT. I WAS NOT IN THE NATIONAL TO VOTE...
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| 01:24:49 |
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THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF FATIGUE OUT THERE DIRECTED IN A LARGE MEASURE TO THE BUSH ADD MIN OPERATION. I THINK THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS GOOD. JUST...
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| 01:26:13 |
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THEM. I MEAN, EVERY BREAK THEY CAN HAVE. IF YOU COUNT IRAQ BEING A BREAK, GASOLINE PRICES. YOU NAME IS, GENERAL ILL FEELING TOWARD
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| 01:26:30 |
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GOIRG BUSH. EVERY CONCEIVABLE BREAK THEY HAVE GOING FOR THEM. WILL THEY CONVERT THAT ILL FEELING INTO VICTORY? >> NO. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY. >>...
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| 01:27:04 |
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SAFE THAT FOR THE NEXT PROGRAM. JACK IS LOOKING FOR DIVINE
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| 01:27:09 |
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INTERVENTION HERE. I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF
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| 01:27:11 |
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YOU FOR COMING HERE TO OUR LECTURE SERIES. IT'S BEEN GREAT TO HEAR YOU BOTH IN YOUR VIEWS. WE BE VUSSLY LIVE
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| 01:27:20 |
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IN A DIFFICULT TIME. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES OUT THERE. I WISH THAT THERE WERE LEADERS LIKE YOU STILL IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. [APPLAUSE]...
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IT WAS FUN. >> THANK YOU. >> IF YOU'D LIKE A COPY OF ANY OF TONIGHT'S AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE PROGRAMS. YOU CAN ORDER ON LINE BY GOING TO
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