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Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
What Paul Bremer said yesterday is they didn't have enough troops to secure the country. They also didn't have a plan to win the peace. They also didn't... |
| 00:00:312 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds to respond, Mr. Vice President. |
| 00:00:3336 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
We've made significant progress in Iraq. We've stood up a new government that's been in power now only 90 days. The notion of additional troops is talked... |
| 00:01:091 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds, Senator. |
| 00:01:1032 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Yes. Mr. Vice President, there is no connection between the attacks of September 11th and Saddam Hussein. The 9/11 Commission has said it. Your... |
| 00:01:4214 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Time for a new question but the same topic. And this time to you, Senator Edwards. You and Senator Kerry have said that the war in Iraq is the... |
| 00:01:561 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Here's what it means: It means that Saddam Hussein needed to be confronted. John Kerry and I have consistently said that. That's why we voted for the... |
| 00:03:522 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds to respond. |
| 00:03:541 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
The senator has got his facts wrong. I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11, but there's clearly an established Iraqi track... |
| 00:05:2420 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You will respond to that topic, but first I want to ask you for two minutes, Vice President Cheney. Tonight we mentioned Afghanistan. We believe... |
| 00:05:441 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, we've never let up on Osama bin Laden from day one. We've actively and aggressively pursued him. We've captured or killed thousands of Al Qaida... |
| 00:07:402 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, you have 90 seconds. |
| 00:07:421 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Someone did get it wrong. But it wasn't John Kerry and John Edwards. They got it wrong. When we had Osama bin Laden cornered, they left the job to the... |
| 00:09:182 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, 30 seconds. |
| 00:09:2036 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Twenty years ago we had a similar situation in El Salvador. We had -- guerrilla insurgency controlled roughly a third of the country, 75,000 people... |
| 00:09:5631 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
The vice president just said that we should focus on state sponsors of terrorism. Iran has moved forward with its nuclear weapons program. They're more... |
| 00:10:275 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
New question to you, Senator Edwards, but I don't want to let go of the global test question first, because... |
| 00:10:321 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Sure. |
| 00:10:3322 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
... I want people to understand exactly what it is, as you said, that Senator Kerry did say. He said, "You've got to do" -- you know, he was... |
| 00:10:552 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, let me say, first, he said in the same segment -- I don't remember precisely where it was connected with what you just read -- but he said, point... |
| 00:12:573 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds to respond. |
| 00:13:001 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen, the 90 percent figure is just dead wrong. When you include the Iraqi security forces that have suffered casualties, as well as the allies,... |
| 00:14:3736 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
May I respond briefly? What the vice president has just said is just a complete distortion. The American people saw John Kerry on Thursday night.... |
| 00:15:133 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 30 seconds. |
| 00:15:1623 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Your rhetoric, Senator, would be a lot more credible if there was a record to back it up. There isn't. And you cannot use "talk tough" during the course... |
| 00:15:3916 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, a new question for you. You have two minutes to respond. When the president says that Senator Kerry is emboldening enemies... |
| 00:15:551 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
I'm saying specifically that I don't believe he has the qualities we need in a commander in chief because I don't think, based on his record, that he... |
| 00:17:482 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, you have 90 seconds to respond. |
| 00:17:501 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Thank you. One thing that's very clear is that a long resume does not equal good judgment. I mean, we've seen over and over and over the misjudgments... |
| 00:19:223 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 30 seconds. |
| 00:19:2530 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen, I think the record speaks for itself. These are two individuals who have been for the war when the headlines were good and against it when... |
| 00:19:552 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
And 30 seconds... |
| 00:19:5730 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
John Kerry has been absolutely clear and consistent from the beginning that we must stay focused on the people who attacked us; that Saddam Hussein... |
| 00:20:2726 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, new question to you, and you have two minutes to respond. Part of what you have said and Senator Kerry has said that you are... |
| 00:20:532 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, let's start with what we know. What we know is that the president and the vice president have not done the work to build the coalition that we... |
| 00:22:583 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds. |
| 00:23:011 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen, it's hard to know where to start; there are so many inaccuracies there. The fact of the matter is the troops wouldn't have what they... |
| 00:24:294 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, 30 seconds. |
| 00:24:3329 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Thank you. The vice president suggests that we have the same number of countries involved now that we had in the first Gulf War. The first Gulf... |
| 00:25:021 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 00:25:0320 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Classic example. He won't count the sacrifice and the contribution of Iraqi allies. It's their country. They're in the fight. They're increasingly the... |
| 00:25:232 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Oh, I'm not... |
| 00:25:25 |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
... as beyond... |
| 00:25:252 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
I'm not demeaning... |
| 00:25:271 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
It is indeed. You suggested... |
| 00:25:28 |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
No, sir, I did not... |
| 00:25:2821 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
... somehow they shouldn't count, because you want to be able to say that the Americans are taking 90 percent of the sacrifice. You cannot succeed in... |
| 00:25:499 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
New question, similar topic, because I want to circle back to a question which I'm not quite certain we got an answer to. But I will direct it... |
| 00:25:58 |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Thanks. |
| 00:25:5821 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
It's a question of American intelligence. If this report that we've read about today is true, and if Vice President Cheney ordered it and asked... |
| 00:26:192 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, let me speak, first of all, to what the vice president just said, and then I'll answer that question. This, unfortunately -- what the vice... |
| 00:28:221 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 00:28:231 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, the story that appeared today about this report is one I asked for. I ask an awful lot of questions as part of my job as vice president. A CIA... |
| 00:29:5322 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, in June of 2000 when you were still CEO of Halliburton, you said that U.S. businesses should be allowed to do business with Iran... |
| 00:30:151 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
No, I do not. And, Gwen, at the time, I was talking specifically about this question of unilateral sanctions. What happens when we impose unilateral... |
| 00:32:131 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards? |
| 00:32:141 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, the vice president talks about there being a member, or someone associated with Al Qaida, in Iraq. There are 60 countries who have members of... |
| 00:33:491 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 00:33:503 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
I can respond, Gwen, but it's going to take more than 30 seconds. |
| 00:33:532 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Well, that's all you've got. (LAUGHTER) |
| 00:33:5533 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, the reason they keep mentioning Halliburton is because they're trying to throw up a smokescreen. They know the charges are false. They... |
| 00:34:281 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Thirty seconds. |
| 00:34:2933 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
These are the facts. The facts are the vice president's company that he was CEO of, that did business with sworn enemies of the United States,... |
| 00:35:0229 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, as we wrap up the foreign policy part of this, I do want to talk to you about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Today, a senior... |
| 00:35:312 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, first of all, I do agree that we've been largely absent, not entirely absent, but largely absent from the peace-making process over the last four... |
| 00:37:311 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, 90 seconds. |
| 00:37:321 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, I want to go back to the last comment, and then I'll come back to Israel-Palestine. The reason they keep trying to attack Halliburton is... |
| 00:39:093 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, it's your turn to use 30 seconds for a complicated response... |
| 00:39:1242 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
That was a complete distortion of my record. I know that won't come as a shock. The vice president, I'm surprised to hear him talk about records.... |
| 00:39:541 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Thirty seconds. |
| 00:39:555 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Oh, I think his record speaks for itself. And frankly, it's not very distinguished. |
| 00:40:007 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
In that case, we'll move on to domestic matters. And this question, I believe, goes to Senator -- to Vice President Cheney. The Census Bureau... |
| 00:40:071 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
I think it goes to Senator Edwards. |
| 00:40:086 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
It goes to the Senator. I see you. I just asked him about Israel, even though we didn't actually talk about it much. |
| 00:40:142 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
I concede the point. (LAUGHTER) |
| 00:40:163 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
No, I did talk about it, Israel. He's the one who didn't talk about it. |
| 00:40:1918 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, the Census Bureau ranked Cleveland as the biggest poor city in the country, 31 percent jobless rate. You two gentlemen are... |
| 00:40:372 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen, there are several things that I think need to be done and are being done. We've, of course, been through a difficult recession, and... |
| 00:42:381 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, you have 90 seconds. |
| 00:42:392 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Gwen, your question was about jobs? |
| 00:42:412 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
It was about jobs, and it was about poverty. |
| 00:42:431 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
I thought it was about jobs and poverty. I hope we get a chance to talk about education, but that's what the vice president talked about. Here's... |
| 00:44:071 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 00:44:0844 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, we've got 111 million American taxpayers that have benefited from our income tax cuts. We've got 33 million students who've benefited from... |
| 00:44:521 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Thirty seconds. |
| 00:44:5325 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
The vice president and president like to talk about their experience on the campaign trail. Millions of people have lost their jobs. Millions have fallen... |
| 00:45:1816 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
This next question goes to you, Senator Edwards. Senator Kerry said in a recent interview that he absolutely will not raise taxes on anyone under... |
| 00:45:342 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Because we will do what they've not done. You know, if you look at what's happened over the last four years, we have gone from a $5 trillion projected... |
| 00:47:352 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 90 seconds, Mr. Vice President. |
| 00:47:371 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, the Kerry record on taxes is one basically of voting for a large number of tax increases -- 98 times in the United States Senate. There's... |
| 00:49:051 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Thirty seconds, Senator Edwards. |
| 00:49:0633 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
We are committed to cutting back anything in our programs that need to be cut back to get us back on a path to fiscal responsibility. John Kerry,... |
| 00:49:391 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds, Mr. Vice President. |
| 00:49:4011 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Yesterday, the president signed an extension of middle- class tax cuts, the 10 percent bracket, the marriage penalty relief and the increase in the... |
| 00:49:5124 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
The next question goes to you, Mr. Vice President. I want to read something you said four years ago at this very setting: "Freedom means freedom... |
| 00:50:151 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, you're right, four years ago in this debate, the subject came up. And I said then and I believe today that freedom does mean freedom for everybody.... |
| 00:51:222 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, 90 seconds. |
| 00:51:241 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Yes. Let me say first, on an issue that the vice president said in his last answer before we got to this question, talking about tax policy, the country... |
| 00:53:0019 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
New question, but same subject. As the vice president mentioned, John Kerry comes from the state of Massachusetts, which has taken as big a step... |
| 00:53:191 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
No. I think we've both said the same thing all along. We both believe that -- and this goes onto the end of what I just talked about -- we both... |
| 00:55:151 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds. |
| 00:55:1611 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much. |
| 00:55:27 |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
That's it? |
| 00:55:271 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
That's it. |
| 00:55:2818 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
OK, then we'll move on to the next question. This one is for you, Mr. Vice President. President Bush has derided in John Kerry for putting a... |
| 00:55:467 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen... |
| 00:55:532 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? (LAUGHTER) |
| 00:55:551 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
First of all, I'm not familiar with his cases. My concern is specifically with what's happened to our medical care system because of rising malpractice... |
| 00:57:491 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards? |
| 00:57:501 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Yes. Well let me say, first of all, I'm proud of the work I did on behalf of kids and families against big insurance companies, big drug companies and... |
| 00:59:1915 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, new question to you, same topic. Do you feel personally attacked when Vice President Cheney talks about liability reform and tort reform... |
| 00:59:341 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Am I personally attacked? I think the truth is that what they're doing is talking about an issue that really doesn't have a great deal to do... |
| 01:01:241 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 01:01:251 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, we think lawsuit abuse is a serious problem in this country. We think we badly need tort reform. I was in Minnesota the other day, where... |
| 01:02:562 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds to respond. |
| 01:02:5832 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, first of all, I have paid all the taxes that I owe. When the vice president was CEO of Halliburton, they took advantage of every offshore... |
| 01:03:302 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Thirty seconds, Mr. Vice President. |
| 01:03:3228 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
We've done a lot to reduce the cost of health care. The Medicare drug benefit that we'll be providing to seniors beginning in '06 will provide upwards... |
| 01:04:0022 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
I will talk to you about health care, Mr. Vice President. You have two minutes. But in particular, I want to talk to you about AIDS, and not about AIDS... |
| 01:04:221 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, this is a great tragedy, Gwen, when you think about the enormous cost here in the United States and around the world of the AIDS epidemic -- pandemic,... |
| 01:05:502 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, you have 90 seconds. |
| 01:05:521 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, first, with respect to what's happening in Africa and Russia and in other places around the world, the vice president spoke about the $15 billion... |
| 01:07:2620 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
OK, we'll move on. This goes to you, Senator Edwards, and you have two minutes. Ten men and women have been nominees of their parties... |
| 01:07:462 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
The American people want in their president and in their vice president basically three things: They want to know that their president and their vice... |
| 01:09:512 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds. |
| 01:09:533 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
You want me to answer a question about his qualifications? |
| 01:09:562 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
That was the question. |
| 01:09:581 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
I see. Well, I think the important thing in picking a vice president probably varies from president to president. Different presidents approach... |
| 01:11:272 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds, if you'd like to respond to that. |
| 01:11:2934 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
I think the most important thing I've learned from this process is what I now know about John Kerry. I knew him before. I know him better now. He's... |
| 01:12:032 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, you have 30 seconds to respond. |
| 01:12:0531 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, I clearly believe that George W. Bush would be a better commander in chief. He's already done it for four years. And he's demonstrated,... |
| 01:12:3613 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, picking up on that, you both just sang the praises of the tops of your ticket. Without mentioning them by name at all, explain... |
| 01:12:491 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Why I am different from John Edwards. Well, in some respects, I think, probably there are more similarities than there are differences in our personal... |
| 01:14:422 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator Edwards, you have 90 seconds. |
| 01:14:4410 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Mr. Vice President, we were attacked. But we weren't attacked by Saddam Hussein. And one thing that John Kerry and I would agree with you about is that... |
| 01:14:542 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You just used John Kerry's name. |
| 01:14:561 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Oh, I'm sorry. I broke the rule. One thing that we agree about is the need to be offensive in going after terrorists. The reality is that... |
| 01:16:171 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Would you like to respond? Thirty seconds. |
| 01:16:181 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
No. |
| 01:16:1924 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
OK, we'll move on. This goes to Senator Edwards. Flip-flopping has become a recurring theme in this campaign, you may have noticed. Senator... |
| 01:16:436 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, first of all, let me say that John Kerry has -- I can use his name now? |
| 01:16:491 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Yes. |
| 01:16:501 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
OK. John Kerry has been, as have I, been completely consistent about Iraq. We've made very clear from the beginning -- and not an afterthought; we said... |
| 01:18:461 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 01:18:471 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen, I can think of a lot of words to describe Senator Kerry's position on Iraq; "consistent" is not one of them. I think if you look... |
| 01:20:172 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds if you choose. |
| 01:20:1933 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Yes, but they didn't fund the mandates that they put on the schools all over this country. That's the reason 800 teachers -- one of the reasons -- 800... |
| 01:20:522 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President? |
| 01:20:5436 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, No Child Left Behind, they were for it; now they're against it. They voted for it; now they're opposed to it. We are making significant... |
| 01:21:307 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Mr. Vice President, our final -- I'm sorry, you have 30 seconds, Senator Edwards. |
| 01:21:3712 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Are you sure -- yes, he started. Yes, 30 seconds, please, yes. We are for accountability, and we are for high standards. John and I voted for... |
| 01:21:493 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
I did figure out I was wrong. |
| 01:21:522 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Well, in fairness, if you feel like you need to go to him, we'll -- I'll stop. |
| 01:21:5428 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Well, I do, because we're actually on the final question. I apologize for giving you an extra 15 seconds there. I go now to Vice President Cheney. ... |
| 01:22:221 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, I must say it's one of the disappointments of the last four years, is that we've not been able to do what the president did in Texas, for example,... |
| 01:24:181 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Senator, there's 90 seconds. |
| 01:24:191 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Thank you. The president said that he would unite this country, that he was a uniter, not a divider. Have you ever seen America more divided?... |
| 01:25:483 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
You have 30 seconds to respond to that, Mr. Vice President. |
| 01:25:5138 sec. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Well, Gwen -- I'm sorry, it's hard to know where to start. The fact of the matter is, the most important and significant change in health care... |
| 01:26:291 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Thirty seconds. |
| 01:26:3033 sec. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
They had a choice on allowing prescription drugs into this country from Canada, of being with the American people or with the drug companies. They were... |
| 01:27:037 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
As previously agreed, we'll go to closing statements now, two minutes each. Coin toss, Senator Edwards, you begin. |
| 01:27:102 min. |
Edwards, John - U.S. Senator, [D] North Carolina
Thank you. Thank you, Gwen. Thank you, Mr. Vice President, for being here. You know, when I was young and growing up, I remember... |
| 01:29:131 sec. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
Vice President Cheney? |
| 01:29:142 min. |
Cheney, Richard "Dick" B. - Vice President
Gwen, I want to thank you. It's been a privilege to serve as your vice president these last four years and to work alongside President Bush to... |
| 01:31:178 min. |
Ifill, Gwen - Moderator
And with that, we come to the end of tonight's debate. On behalf of the commission and the candidates, I'd like to extend a special thank you... |