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YOU
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SAID YOU TOOK THIS JOB BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO DO IT. WOULD YOU DO ANYTHING THAT A PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO DO? >> OF COURSE NOT. BUT HE LOOKED...
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IMPORTANT NATIONAL ISSUE, I WANT TO ANSWER THAT CALL. LEAVING CONGRESS WAS A BIG STEP FOR ME. I
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PRIDED MYSELF ON REPRESENTING THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ARKANSAS AND THAT'S WHERE I WORKED HARD FOR A LONG TIME. SO THAT WAS A BIG STEP. BUT GOOD DECISION,...
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NEW SURVEY -- THERE'S A NEW SURVEY OUT TALKING ABOUT ACCESS TO DRUGS, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO DRUGS? >> MY YOUNGEST IS 18 AND JUST FINISHED...
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AND I RAISED FOUR TEENAGERS THROUGH THE
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PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IN FORT SMITH.
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AND LET ME TELL YOU, THERE ARE CHALLENGES THERE FOR ANY PARENT. YOU WORRY A LOT. WE HAVE GOOD KIDS AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT, BUT IT'S A CONSTANT...
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KIDS EVER SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT, THERE ARE DRUGS AVAILABLE IN SCHOOL THAT I BEING GET IF I WANTED THEM? >> THAT'S THE DIFFICULT THING, KIDS DON'T...
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AND YOU HAVE TO TALK TO FRIENDS AND OTHER PARENTS TO GET A SENSE AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS. IT'S NOT EASY FOR PARENTS.
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AND IT'S DIFFICULT EVEN FOR SCHOOL COUNSELORS TO KNOW ALL THE
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TIME. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO BE
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ENGAGED IN THE CHILDREN'S LIVES AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AVENUES TO DO THAT. BUT WE WERE AWARE THAT THERE WERE DRUGS THAT WERE AVAILABLE AT...
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ARE COMING ON THE SCENE. THAT IS A VERY PRESENT DANGER FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE DRUG PROBLEM FOR URBAN YOUTH. >> CLUB DRUGS MEAN...
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THE NAME OF THE "CLUB DRUG." BUT THEY'RE MANUFACTURED MANY TIMES BY
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A CHEMIST IN THE NETHERLANDS OR IN EUROPE AND BROUGHT INTO THE UNITED STATES IN PILL FORM AND THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO DETECT. BUT THEY CAUSE ENORMOUS DAMAGE...
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POCKET AND IS DIFFICULT TO DETECT,
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OR USED PRIOR TO GOING INTO THE PARTY, OR PURCHASED AT
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THE PARTY. BUT WHENEVER YOU THINK
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ABOUT $25 HOW MANY PARENTS GIVE THEIR KIDS $25 FOR A DATE TO TAKE A GIRL OUT TO EAT. >> THIS IS NOT A TRICK QUESTION. HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING...
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TIME. BUT IF YOU'VE NEVER TAKEN THEM, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY DO TO YOU, OTHER THAN WHAT YOU SEE ON THE STREET? >>
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OF COURSE, WE DO PAY FOR STUDIES ON THE IMPACT OR USE OF DRUGS. SO WE HAVE SCIENTIFIC, MEDICALLY-APPROVED STUDIES ON DRUG USE. BUT THAT
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IS THEN AT A VERY CAREFUL ENVIRONMENT. AND SOMETIMES THAT STUDY IS DONE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING IT FOR THE TEST PURPOSE, BUT ARE DOING IT BECAUSE...
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LIFE. BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT ADVISE ANYONE TO BE TAKING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES, EVEN FOR THAT TYPE OF STUDY PURPOSES. YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT...
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HAVING A RESPONSIBILITY FOR 9,000 EMPLOYEES? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IS THE EXTRAORDINARY DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT OF THESE EMPLOYEES, WHETHER THEY'RE...
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PROFESSIONAL. SECONDLY, I THINK,
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I'M AMAZED BY THE MANAGEMENT DIFFICULTIES. IT'S -- WE'RE SPREAD ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SO YOU HAVE
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TO HAVE GOOD MANAGEMENT PEOPLE IN PLACE. >> BUT WHEN YOU GO IN THERE, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN YOU THEN ACTUALLY PUT IN OF YOUR OWN? >> IN THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT...
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APPOINTMENTS. SO I'M POLITICALLY APPOINTED AND I MIGHT
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HAVE ONE DEPUTY APPOINTED BY THE SENATE. SO THEY'RE CAREER EMPLOYEES. SO ALL OF MY FRIENDS THAT ASK FOR JOB, THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO. AND RIGHTFULLY...
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DEPUTY THOMPSON, ARE REALLY THE
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PEOPLE I WORK WITH AND REPORT TO ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. . THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PRESIDENT, AS WELL. >>
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FORT WALTON BEACH, FLORIDA, ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE FOR ASA HUTCHINSON.
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GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO DO TO STOP DRUG USE? THERE'S SO MUCH DRUG USE IN SCHOOLS, I QUIT SCHOOL BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH...
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VO TECH HERE IN FLORIDA. >> VOCATIONAL TECHNICAL SCHOOL? >>
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Caller: A VO TECH, FOR OTHER TRAINING, LIKE CNA. AND THE DRUG USE, THERE'S MARIJUANA GOING ON. HOME-MADE
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DRUGS MADE FROM ACID FROM ANYWHERE FROM LEMONS TO ORANGES. THEY CAN MAKE
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DRUGS OUT OF IT. THERE IS SO
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MUCH THERE. >> IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE
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Caller, -
MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS. SINCE 1979 -- IN 1979, WE HAD ABOUT 12 MILLION KIDS, 12 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER, USING DRUGS. NOW, WHAT 21 YEARS LATER,
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THAT'S BEEN REDUCED BY TEN MILLION PEOPLE. SO WE HAVE REDUCED USE OF DRUGS BY TEENAGERS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST 21 YEARS. NOTWITHSTANDING THAT SIGNIFICANT...
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COCAINE. HE WAS ARRESTED, ALONG WITH A COUPLE
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OF OTHERS.
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HE ACTUALLY COOPERATED AND
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PLED GUILTY TO THE
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OFFENSE. THE OTHERS WENT
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TO TRIAL. AND IT WAS IN HOT SPRINGS, ARKANSAS. AND REALLY IN THE 1980'S WE
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HAD EXTRAORDINARY PROBLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY WITH COCAINE BECAUSE
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IT WAS VIEWED SOCIALLY AS AN ACCEPTABLE DRUG. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAWYERS AND PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE AND TEACHERS THAT WERE ENGAGED IN IT. AND THIS PROSECUTION...
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OF MONICA. I DON'T THINK HE'S
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FAIR. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE FAIR IN PROSECUTION. I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT I DID AS A PROSECUTOR IN ARKANSAS, I REALLY CROSSED...
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NOW? >> YES, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING OUR HOME, REGRET FREFULLY, IN ARKANSAS. AND MY WIFE WILL MOVE UP HERE AND WE'LL LEASE A TOWNHOUSE IN THE...
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WELL AS MY DAUGHTER WHO WORKS HERE. SO WE'LL HAVE FAMILY CONTACTS IN THE CITY. >> FT. WAYNE,
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INDIANA, REPUBLICAN LINE FOR ASA HUTCHINSON, GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING. IT'S AN HAD OTHER THAN TO SPEAK TO YOU, MR. HUTCHINSON. WHEN I WENT...
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WE SENT THEM TO GOOD SCHOOLS, BUT NOT SCHOOLS WITH REPUTATIONS FOR DRUGS.
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WE SENT THEM TO NOTRE DAME, GEORGETOWN, AND HOLY CROSS. THEY DRINK BOOZE, THEY DRINK BEER, BUT THEY DON'T USE DRUGS. BUT IF YOU GO TO THE IVY'S, ESPECIALLY...
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FINE. BUT IF YOU
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TAKE DRUGS, AND IF YOU TAKE THE MARINE, AND FROM THERE THE COCAINE AND WHATEVER, THAT BECOMES MORE ADDICTIVE. THE PROBLEM WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE IS...
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21. THIS GENTLEMAN, SOUNDS TO ME LIKE HE WAS A GOOD PARENT, BECAUSE HE TALKED ABOUT THESE ISSUES WITH HIS CHILDREN.
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YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HIS PERSPECTIVE IS, HE SHARED THAT WITH HIS CHILDREN, AND THAT HAD AN INFLUENCE, AS WELL AS SENDING THEM TO APPROPRIATE SCHOOLS. NOT...
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MARIJUANA, BUT "NOT MY KID." THOSE ARE GOOD SCHOOLS REFERENCED. BUT THOSE KIDS CAN FIND THOSE DRUGS IF THEY HAVE THE INTENT
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TO DO THAT. >> WE GO NEXT TO KENTUCKY FOR ASA HUTCHINSON, GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: I HAVE A QUESTION. TEEN DRUG USE HAS GONE DOWN, BUT WHAT ABOUT TEEN...
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ATMOSPHERE OF TEEN PARTYING WITH ALCOHOL WILL GET
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Caller, -
THEM INTO THAT ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE ILLEGAL DRUGS ARE, AS WELL. >> I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE CURRENT STATISTIC ON TEEN ALCOHOL USE. OBVIOUSLY, IT...
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LEVEL, AS WELL AS AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL. AND WE
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NEED MORE EDUCATION AND MORE CONCENTRATED EFFORT TO REDUCE THAT ABUSE OF TEENAGERS IN THAT ARENA. YOU
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KNOW, AS TO WHETHER IT'S A GATEWAY DRUG, I THINK THAT TO SOME PEOPLE, IT IS A GATEWAY DRUG. OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT MOVE FROM ONE DRUG NECESSARILY TO...
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THIS COUNTRY? >> BUT THAT'S MISLEADING, BECAUSE, WHENEVER YOU ASK THE STATISTIC AS TO HOW MANY HAVE USED DRUGS IN THE LAST 30 DAYS,
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THAT IS GENERALLY THE MEASURE AND THEN YOU'RE DOWN AROUND 6% TO 7%. BUT IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION, HOW MANY HAVE NEVER USED ANY ILLEGAL DRUG,
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ALCOHOL, CIGARETTES,
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THEN OF COURSE IT REDUCES SUBSTANTIALLY "EVER USE" THAT. THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE SMALLER PERCENT. >> WE GO TO NEW YORK CITY. >> Caller: I HAVE A COMMENT...
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AND I DO NOT THINK
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YOU'RE A FAIR PERSON. BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT HOW YOUR SON INVITED YOU TO A RAVE PARTY AND YOU WENT THERE. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS YOUR PURPOSE...
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BUT PRIOR TO GOING, THE D.E.A. NOTIFIED ME THAT THE PROMOTER WAS GOING TO BE
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SUBJECT TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATION. IN OTHER WORDS, HE WAS ARRESTED. SO I DID NOT GO TO THE RAVE. >> DID YOUR SON? >> MY SON DID NOT GO TO THE RAVE...
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TO CHARGES RIGHT NOW OF CONSPIRACY
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TO DISTRIBUTE 1,000 PILLS OF ECSTASY. SO THERE IS THAT DANGER THAT'S OUT THERE. IN REFERENCE TO WHO WE'RE GOING AFTER. WE'RE NOT GOING AFTER THE...
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CLUBS, AND THE PROBLEM IS, SOMETIMES, NOT ALWAYS, BUT SOMETIMES
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THE PROMOTER USES THE ALL-NIGHT DANCE PARTY TO FACILITATE DRUG USE. AND THAT IS WHERE, I THINK THEY CROSS THE LINE IN THE CRIMINAL AREA AND THEY WOULD...
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SO FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS
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NOW. AND WHEN IS THIS WAR GOING TO
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END? >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN "THE OPPOSITE SIDE?" >> I'VE BEEN A PARTICIPANT
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Caller, -
ON THE OTHER SIDE. >> YOU TAKE DRUGS? >> Caller: YES. >> WHAT KIND OF DRUGS? >> Caller: MOSTLY MARIJUANA. WITHIN THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS, ONLY MARIJUANA....
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DON'T. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I DO. >> Caller: DOES IT HAVE A
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BEER? >> WHAT DOES
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IT DO TO YOU? >>
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Caller, -
Caller: TO
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RELAX, SIT BACK, WITHDRAW
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Caller, -
FROM THE WORLD A LITTLE BIT, FROM THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE ALL FACING AND
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THAT YOU DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY
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Caller, -
ANSWERS FOR. AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO KNOW, THE PEOPLE BUILDING ALL THE
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PRISONS, WHAT INFLUENCE TO DO THEY HAVE ON YOU ON
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Caller, -
THE DRUG PROGRAMS. >>
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THANKS. >> WELL, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A DISTINCTION
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Caller, -
BETWEEN ALCOHOL USE AND OTHER SUBSTANCE USE THAT YOU REFERRED TO, BECAUSE ONE IS LEGAL, ALTHOUGH REGULATED, AND THE OTHER ONE IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL. AND...
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| 00:22:28 |
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POLITICAL STANDPOINT, THEY CAN HAVE A
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DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT. BUT THE ILLEGAL CONDUCT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED IN OUR SOCIETY. IN TERMS OF THE DEBATE GOING ON TODAY ON LEGALIZATION,...
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I'M NOT SURE I WOULD ACCEPT THE PRELS OF THAT QUESTION. IN THE SURVEYS I'VE
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Caller, -
SEEN FOR THE NETHERLANDS, SWITZERLAND, IN BOTH THOSE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE MOVED TOWARD DECRIMINALIZATION, THE DRUG PROBLEMS
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AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED AND THE PROBLEMS FROM THAT AND THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF DRUG USE IN THOSE COUNTRIES. I DON'T THINK...
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PLANS IF YOU HADN'T DONE THAT? WERE YOU GOING TO STAY
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IN CONGRESS FOREVER, OR DID YOU WANT TO RUN FOR THE SENATE OR GOVERNOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> FOREVER IS A LONG TIME. BUT I WAS GOING TO STAY IN CONGRESS...
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Caller: YEAH, HOW YOU DOING, MR. HUTCHINSON? >> GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: MAN, I THINK YOU REALLY GOT IT WRONG, MAN, TO SIT
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THERE AND SAY THAT COCAINE USE IS DOWN 75%, MAN, IS JUST A CLEAR JOKE, MAN. I MEAN, YOU NEED TO
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CHANGE THE NAME OF THE WAR ON DRUGS, MAN.
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Caller, -
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
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SOMETHING DONE MYSELF, MAN. BUT I
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Caller, -
HOPE YOU DON'T BECOME LIKE BILL BENNETT, MAN, AND BE FULL OF RHETORIC, MAN, AND HAVE ALL THE TALK, MAN. >> WHY DO YOU SAY COCAINE USE IS DOWN -- WHY...
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DAY. I'M TRYING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I KNOW PEOPLE AT
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Caller, -
HOME LAUGHING AT YOU, JUST THE SAME THING. I THOUGHT YOU CONSERVATIVES WERE PROGRESSIVE, HAD NEW IDEAS.
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BUT IT'S JUST LIKE YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PRO
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Caller, -
LIFE, BUT YET YOU'RE PRO DEATH. THE CONTRADICTION IS STILL THERE. >> DO YOU USE DRUGS YOURSELF, CALLER? >> Caller: YEAH, YEAH, MAN, FROM TIME TO TIME....
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ARE THE FACTS. AND I KNOW YOU
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Caller, -
MIGHT NOT LIKE THOSE FACTS, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO PROVIDE THE ACTUAL STUDIES AND SURVEYS THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT. NOW, THAT DOES NOT INDICATE THAT COCAINE...
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COCAINE USE HAS DECLINED 75%. AND WHAT I LIKE TO CONSIDER, EVEN IN A BETTER CONTEXT, IS THAT REPRESENTS FOUR MILLION PEOPLE. FUHR MILLION FEWER PEOPLE...
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ISN'T? >> BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVES, WHERE IN CONGRESS OR THE LEGISLATORS, THAT MAKES A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO. BOTH, OBVIOUSLY, CAN...
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TO BE HARMFUL. THE OTHERS ARE FLAT-OUT ILLEGAL AND THE REASON IS THAT THEY'RE MORE ADDICTIVE, MORE DANGEROUS, LEADS TO MORE SOCIAL PROBLEMS, AND WE...
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DISEASE THAT IS VERY PAINFUL.
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Caller, -
AND THE D.E.A.,
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Unidentified Speaker, -
MY DOCTOR TOLD ME, IS
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| 00:29:07 |
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REALLY CLAMPING DOWN ON THE USE OF THIS DRUG. AND IT'S FIRST DRUG IN 25 YEARS THAT I'VE FOUND THAT WILL HELP STOP THE PAIN IN MY SPINE AND MY LOWER...
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THE SAME DRUG USED FOR CANCER. >> YES. AND WE'RE NOT CRACKING DOWN ON
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Caller, -
THE USE OF OXYCONTIN, BUT THE MISUSE OF OXYCONTIN. CLEARLY, IT IS AN EFFECTIVE PAIN RELIEVER, AN OPIATE THAT IS EFFECTIVE IN RELIEVING
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PAIN. BUT IT IS ALSO HIGHLY SUBJECT TO ABUSE. AND
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| 00:30:04 |
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WE HAVE OXYCONNIN BEING DIVERTED, BEING USED BY YOUNG PEOPLE, ADULTS. AND IT'S SO HIGHLY ADDICTIVE, THAT ONCE YOU GET ON THAT, YOU'LL DO ABOUT ANYTHING...
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| 00:30:39 |
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A PROBLEM? >> THE PHARMACISTS FILL THE PRESCRIPTION. >> WEREN'T THERE ARE A LOT OF OXYCONTIN DRUGS STOLE FRIEND
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| 00:30:48 |
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PHARMACEUTICALS? >> RIGHT, THE BURGLARS WOULD BREAK IN, STEAL THE OAKS CONTIN FROM THE PHARMACIST. BUT YOU ALSO HAD PEOPLE TRYING TO GET
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| 00:30:58 |
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THE OXYCONTIN FROM A DOCTOR WITHOUT THE LEGITIMATE REASON
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| 00:31:02 |
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FOR IT. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT ANY WAY THEY
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| 00:31:05 |
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CAN. >> HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO SPONED EVERY YEAR? >>
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| 00:31:11 |
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ABOUT $1.5 BILLION. >> HOW MANY AIRPLANES DO YOU OWN? >> WE HAVE AN AIR FLEET, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. >> HOW MANY OF YOUR PEOPLE ARE ON THE FIELD...
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| 00:31:28 |
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ONLY HAVE 1,000 IN WASHINGTON, SO ABOUT 8,000 IN THE FIELD. OF
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| 00:31:34 |
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THOSE 8,000, YOU
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PROBABLY HAVE 4,000 WHO ARE AGENTS, AND THE
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REST OF INTELLIGENCE AN
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RIFTS, CHEMISTS -- INTELLIGENCE ANALYST, CHEMISTS WITH EIGHT LABORATORIES AROUND THE
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| 00:31:49 |
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COUNTRY THAT ANALYZE THE CHEMICALS, STUDY THEM. I IS A COMMENT THAT RELATES TO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO GET KIDS TO STOP TAKING DRUGS. I WOULD BE PLEASED...
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Unidentified Speaker, -
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Caller, -
MARIJUANA. THIS WAS IN THE 1970'S AND IT WAS BEFORE THE "JUST SAY NO" CAMPAIGN. AND THE WAY IT WAS TAUGHT, IN HEALTH CLASS, THEY WOULD TEACH ABOUT...
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| 00:34:48 |
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CALLER HAS AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT WHENEVER WE DO OUR DRUG EDUCATION, WE NEED TO
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Caller, -
DEAL HONESTLY WITH THE KIDS AND NOT OVERSTATE THE
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CASE, NOT OVERSTATE THE DANGER, BUT
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Caller, -
BE STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THEM. IF YOU'RE NOT, THEY'LL PICK UP ON IT QUICKLY ANDULE LOSE CREDIBILITY. WHENEVER THE CALLER POINTS OUT THAT SOME PEOPLE
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| 00:35:09 |
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ARE ON IT AND THEN OFF OF IT, I THINK EVERYBODY REACTSIFFERENTLY. WITH THE ABUSE ON ECSTASY. YOU HAVE SOME THAT APPARENTLY CAN HANDLE SMALL DOSAGES...
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| 00:36:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO THAT. AT LEAST TO MY
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| 00:36:32 |
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KNOWLEDGE THERE WAS NOT ANY DRUG
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| 00:36:35 |
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USE. OBVIOUSLY IT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME. BUT YOU HAD STUDENTS THERE WITH A DIFFERENT DIRECTION IN LIFE. AND NOT EVERYBODY, AGAIN, CAN GO TO A...
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THAT. >> WHAT WAS YOUR GRADUATION YEAR? >> THAT WAS 1972. >> PANAMA CITY BEACH, FLORIDA, FOR ASA HUTCHINSON. GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: YES, I GAVE YOU...
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U.S. AND THEN I
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Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT, OR A QUESTION, HOW ARE YOU GUYS
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| 00:37:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GOING TO STOP THE COMPUTER? YOU CAN FIND OUT SO MUCH
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| 00:37:13 |
Caller, -
ON THE INTERNET. HOW WOULD YOU STOP THAT? >> WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT? >> OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T STOP THE INTERNET, THE GROWTH OF IT. IT'S A GREAT SERVICE....
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| 00:37:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THERE. SO TEENAGERS CAN GO ON
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| 00:37:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE INTERNET AND FIND OUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS THEY OUGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT TELL OR THEY CAN BE ABUSED. A LOT OF INFORMATION IS MISINFORMATION ABOUT DRUGS...
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| 00:38:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT MISINFORMATION IS ON THERE, AND PARENTS NEED TO
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BE AWARE OF THE KIDS' USE OF THE INTERNET, WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION THEY'RE GETTING OFF OF THERE. >> ANNAPOLIS, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> Caller: I'VE HAD...
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| 00:38:53 |
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DRUGS ILLEGAL. AS FAR AS PEOPLE DEALING
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DRUGS AND SO FORTH, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING THEM ARE USERS AND ARE CASUAL USERS. CHILDREN ARE THEMSELVES DEALING THE DRUGS. AND I...
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| 00:39:42 |
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Caller: AT THIS POINT, I'M ON METHADONE MAINTENANCE. AND THAT'S
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| 00:39:46 |
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BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR ME AS FAR AS GETTING OFF OF HEROIN, WHICH IS THE DRUG THAT I ENDED UP USING. >> HOW CLOSE IS METHADONE MAINTENANCE TO WHAT THE...
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| 00:40:00 |
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THE EUPHORIC. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY SAY THAT IT IS SO
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GOOD PEOPLE DO NOT CRAVE IT AND GO AFTER IT IN THE SAME WAY. BUT IN THE SAME TOKEN, METHADONE IS A SUBSTANCE THAT IS VERY EFFECTIVE AND LASTS A LONG
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| 00:40:15 |
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TIME AS FAR AS HELPING A PERSON STAYING OFF OF HEROIN. >> WOULD
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| 00:40:20 |
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THE CALLER RECOMMEND HEROIN USE FOR SOMEONE, FOR YOUR KID? >> Caller: AS FAR AS HEROIN USE ITSELF, THERE ARE SIGNS THAT THERE IS A DEFICIENCY IN ENDORPHINS...
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| 00:40:41 |
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DIN OR OXYCONTIN OR SOME OF THE OTHER DRUGS
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| 00:40:46 |
Caller, -
AND SUDDENLY THEY FEEL BETTER BECAUSE OF A LACK OF ENDORPHINS THEY'VE BEEN LIVING WITH FOR A LARGE PART OF THEIR LIVES AND THEY END UP WITH PROBLEMS...
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| 00:41:18 |
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BE DEBATED OUT THIS IN SOCIETY. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR OUR COUNTRY. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE PERSON SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE,...
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| 00:41:46 |
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THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH A STRONG EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS HARMFUL, THAT MORE PEOPLE MAKE THE DECISION NOT TO...
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| 00:42:01 |
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THEY'LL DO THINGS THAT ARE HARMFUL TO THEM, WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR NOT. FROM MY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO HAVE A JOB WHETHER YOU CHANGE THE...
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| 00:42:48 |
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ABOUT DEGENERATIVE SPINE DISEASE FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. HE STATED
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| 00:42:51 |
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THAT HIS DOCTOR WAS GOING TO CEASE PRESCRIBING OXYCONTIN BECAUSE OF HARASSMENT FROM THE D.E.A. NOW, I'VE HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM REPORTED IN "NEWSWEEK"
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| 00:43:02 |
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AND "TIME"
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| 00:43:03 |
Caller, -
AND FROM MY OWN DOCTOR AFTER A MOING ACCIDENT. MR. HUTCHINSON'S RESPONSE WAS TO GLOSS IT OVER AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF D.E.A. AGENTS OUT...
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| 00:43:56 |
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OF NARCOTICS TO PEOPLE WITH UNBELIEVABLE PAIN CAUSED BY CANCER. >> DID THEY NAME NAMES, THOUGH? >> Caller: SURE, I GO TO WORK EACH
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| 00:44:05 |
Caller, -
DAY, I'M NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE NAMES. BUT JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE NAMES DOESN'T MEAN THIS PROBLEM DOESN'T EXIST. ARE YOU SAYING IT DOESN'T...
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| 00:44:23 |
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ABOUT OVERPRESCRIBING
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| 00:44:24 |
Caller, -
OXYCONNIN. AND DOCTORS SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE DRUG. BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO, AS YOU SAID, HAVE...
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| 00:44:39 |
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100%. LATER TODAY, I'LL MEET WITH PAIN MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS, BECAUSE WE AGREE ON THIS SUBJECT, THAT, WHILE THE D.E.A. WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT...
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| 00:45:24 |
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KNOW EVERY SPECIFIC ONE IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE CAN TRACE THE OXYCONTIN
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| 00:45:30 |
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AND HOW IT'S SOLD
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| 00:45:31 |
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AND TO WHAT EXTENT. >> WOULD AN AGENT KNOCK ON
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| 00:45:34 |
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A DOCTOR'S DOOR AT HIS OFFICE AND SAY, WE SEE HERE YOU'RE PRESCRIBING A LOT OF OXYCAN'TIN AND WHY? >> THAT COULD HAPPEN. WE CAN LOOK AT THE RECORDS...
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| 00:45:54 |
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HANDLING MAYBE 90% OF THIS SUBSTANCE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, OR ONE DOCTOR IS DOING ALL THE
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| 00:46:01 |
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PRESCRIPTIONS. AND THERE MIGHT BE LEGITIMATE REASONS FOR IT. BUT TO PREVENT THE ABUSE OF IT IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. I HOPE THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED...
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| 00:46:40 |
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THE D.E.A. IS REALLY CRACKING DOWN ON THIS. AND IT COULD ALSO BE THAT THE DOCTOR HAS HAD A VERY FRIENDLY VISIT WITH THE
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| 00:46:49 |
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D.E.A. AND IS SIMPLY OVERREACTING TO IT. IT COULD ALSO BE THAT THE AGENT THAT GOES OUT THERE MIGHT NOT HAVE HANDLED THE INTERVIEW JUST AS WELL AS THEY...
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| 00:47:25 |
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THAT YOU HAVE TESTS ON ALL KIND OF DRUGS, BUT YOU
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| 00:47:31 |
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DIDN'T DO ANY PERSONALLY, BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE TESTING. AND I THOUGHT I HEARD ON SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THAT EVERY TIME THEY DID MARIJUANA, THEY WERE SHUT...
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| 00:48:17 |
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MEDICAL USE FOR MARIJUANA.
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| 00:48:19 |
Caller, -
AND THAT'S WHO WE NEED TO LISTEN TO, THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, AND THE STUDIES THAT
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| 00:48:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARE CONDUCTED, TO MAKE
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| 00:48:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SURE WE NEVER DEPRIVE SOMEONE
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| 00:48:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF LEGITIMATE PAIN MEDICATION, THERE ARE ONGOING STUDIES OF MARIJUANA AND ITS USE AND WHETHER THERE IS ANY MEDICAL BENEFIT TO IT. AND WE'LL LISTEN TO...
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| 00:49:11 |
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OUR COUNTRY. AND I CONCLUDED I THINK WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS AND IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT. IN REFERENCE TO SOMETHING I WANTED TO CHANGE, IT IS...
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| 00:49:25 |
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THAN OTHER SOCIAL PROBLEMS. IF YOU LOOK AT CHILD ABUSE, IF YOU DON'T SEE THE STATISTICS DRAMATICALLY GOING DOWN, DOES ANYONE SAY THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM...
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| 00:50:34 |
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SYSTEM. IN THE STATE SYSTEM, THE STATISTICS ARE MORE LIKE 27% THAT
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| 00:50:39 |
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ARE CONVICTED OF DRUG USE VERSUS TRAFFICKING. AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO HOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTMENT. BUT MANY TIMES,
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| 00:50:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THERE COULD BE PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND THEY COULD HAVE PLED DOWN TO THAT IN
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| 00:50:52 |
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ORDER TO GET THE CONVICTION, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE TRAFFICKERS. SO IT'S HARD TO REACH ALL THE CONCLUSIONS. BUT BY AND LARGE, VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE...
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| 00:51:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ATTACHED SHEETS
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| 00:51:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GIVING ANY DESCRIPTION OF THE SIDE-EFFECTS THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED HERE. AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GET THE F.D.A. TO LOOK AT YOUR STUDIES TO...
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| 00:52:35 |
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HAVE MEDICATION, THAT CAN LEAD TO THE SAME PROBLEMS. BUT IF IT'S SCHEDULE ONE, MARIJUANA, CAN HAS NO MEDICAL USE ACCORDING TO EXPERTS, THEN THERE...
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| 00:53:12 |
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NOTHING TO THIS
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| 00:53:14 |
Caller, -
GENTLEMAN. BUT YOU'LL PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL WHO SIT IN THEIR HOUSE AT NIGHT AND GO OUT AND ABSOLUTELY HURT NOBODY. AND WITH TEEN DRUG USE, YOU'RE NEVER...
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| 00:53:53 |
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ABSOLUTELY NOBODY -- >> THANKS, CALLER, GOT THE POINT. >> JUST SPEAKING
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| 00:53:57 |
Caller, -
TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE PERSON WHO SITS IN THEIR HOUSE AND PRESUMABLY USES DRUGS AND HURTS NO ONE, I THINK, ONE, OUR INVESTIGATORS, IT PARTICULARLY...
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| 00:54:15 |
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GOES GOES AFTER THE TRAFFICKERS.
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| 00:54:18 |
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I THINK IT'S A MYTH TO SAY THAT SOMEONE SITS IN THEIR HOME AND DOES DRUGS AND DOES NOT HURT ANYONE. IN THEORY, I SUPPOSE THAT'S THE CASE. BUT WE HAVE...
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| 00:55:12 |
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BE OPEN -- BE OPEN TO THIS
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| 00:55:16 |
Caller, -
WHOLE PLETHORA OF PROBLEMS THAT GO INTO DRUG USE. IT'S NOT JUST THE IMPORT OF DRUGS. IT'S FAMILY PROBLEMS, COMMUNITY PROBLEMS. IT'S A NATIONAL PROBLEM....
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| 00:56:32 |
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TO 35. >> WAS
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| 00:56:34 |
Caller, -
THAT FOR USING OR SELLING. >> Caller: IT WAS POSSESSION. AND
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| 00:56:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I THINK --
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| 00:56:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING
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| 00:56:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ELSE, TOO. I'M INVOLVED IN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR
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| 00:56:44 |
Caller, -
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE
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| 00:56:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHEN THEY COME OUT OF PRISON, AND
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| 00:56:47 |
Caller, -
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY FOR
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| 00:56:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT. >> I'M DELIGHTED FOR YOUR
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| 00:56:51 |
Caller, -
COMMENTS, BECAUSE YOU REFLECT A LOT OF THE HEARTACHE OUT THERE IN OUR SOCIETY AND THE DESTRUCTION
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| 00:56:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO FAMILIES.
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| 00:56:57 |
Caller, -
AND YOU'RE RIGHT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY WILL SELL TO THEIR FRIENDS TO SUPPORT THEIR HABIT. AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO, WITHIN...
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| 00:57:10 |
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CONTEXT OF NOT CHANGE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, IT'S CRIMINAL CONDUCT AND WE SHOULD BE OPEN IN THAT REGARD. I'M AN ADVOCATE OF DRUG COURTS WHERE YOU...
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| 00:58:10 |
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SURE. >> WHY HAS THERE NEVER BEEN AN AMENDMENT TO PROHIBIT DRUGS? >> THE COCAINE, THE ILLEGAL HARD DRUGS TODAY, THAT'S A LEGISLATIVE ENACTMENT THAT CONGRESS...
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| 00:58:31 |
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IS FROM OMAHA,
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| 00:58:33 |
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NEBRASKA. GO AHEAD. >> Caller: MR. HUTCHINSON, THANK YOU, FIRST, FOR YOUR SERVICE
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| 00:58:39 |
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TO OUR COUNTRY OVER THE YEARS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PENALTIES MAINLY ON PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING DRUGS. I HAD -- I GRADUATED IN 1972, LIKE YOU, AND...
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| 00:58:51 |
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WAS INVOLVED WITH DRUGS OVER THE YEARS, DON'T SEE THEM VERY OFTEN. BUT SEEING HIM,
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| 00:58:56 |
Caller, -
AND A MUTUAL FRIEND ALSO, AND I FOUND OUT THAT I KNEW HE WAS IN JAIL FOR DRUGS BEFORE. I FOUND OUT THAT LAST YEAR HE WAS IN JAIL FOR OPENING UP A METH...
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| 01:00:46 |
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SOCIETY. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGE YOU WANT TO MAKE IN THE LAW RIGHT NOW? DOES YOUR CUT SAY I HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING TO...
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| 01:01:09 |
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LIKE TO SEE PUSHED HARDER. PRESIDENT BUSH, WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT PARENT CORPSES,
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| 01:01:17 |
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ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGING PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT. WE MIGHT NEED GRANT MONEY, LEGISLATION TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IN THAT REGARD. I THINK IT'S NOT THE PROBLEM...
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WE
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