| 00:00:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I HAVE. >> BUT SOME MIGHT SAY WARREN HARDING LIKED PEOPLE TOO MUCH. HIS GOOD-NATURED TRUST IN OTHERS SPELLED SCANDAL WHEN THE PUBLIC DISCOVERED THAT...
|
| 00:00:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN AT LEAST TWO EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS, ONE OF WHICH MAY HAVE RESULTED IN THE BIRTH OF A DAUGHTER.
|
| 00:00:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HARDING LIKE TO POKE FUN AT HIS AFFABLE NATURE, ONCE RECOUNTING IN PUBLIC THE FOLLOWING WORDS OF HIS FATHER GEORGE. >> WARREN, IT'S A GOOD THING YOU...
|
| 00:01:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LOCAL NEWSPAPER HE'D LATER CALL "THE MARION STAR." THE VENTURE WAS A SUCCESS, AND HARDING SOON GAINED FULL OWNERSHIP. WHEN HE WAS 25, HE MARRIED 30-YEAR-OLD
|
| 00:01:31 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FLORENCE KLING DE WOLFE, A DIVORCED MOTHER WHO LATER JOINED HER NEW HUSBAND IN BUILDING HIS NEWSPAPER ENTERPRISE. SHE ALSO SUPPORTED HIS FLEDGLING...
|
| 00:02:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
POPULAR. MRS. HARDING THREW LAVISH LAWN PARTIES AND SHARED HER HUSBAND'S AFFINITY FOR MEETING PEOPLE, ONCE SHAKING ALMOST 7,000 HANDS IN A SINGLE...
|
| 00:02:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HOSTED TWICE-WEEKLY POKER GAMES WITH A GROUP OF OFFICEHOLDERS HE DUBBED HIS "POKER CABINET." ADDITIONAL PASTIMES, THOUGH, ALLEGEDLY INCLUDED STEPPING...
|
| 00:04:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WELL, THIS IS PRESIDENT-ELECT WARREN G. HARDING AND HIS WIFE FLORENCE ON THE FRONT PORCH OF THEIR HOME, SAYING GOOD-BYE TO THE FOLKS OF MARION, OHIO....
|
| 00:05:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PORCH OF THEIR HOME. AND WE ARE AT THE VERY SAME LOCATION, LIVE THIS MORNING, IN MARION, OHIO, AS WE CONTINUE OUR SERIES, "AMERICAN PRESIDENTS: LIFE...
|
| 00:06:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIS
|
| 00:06:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
RELAXING IN THE EVENING AND PLAYED POKER WITH HIS
|
| 00:06:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FRIENDS. >> TELL US MORE ABOUT THE HOUSE OVERALL. WHAT DID THE HARDINGS BUILD? >> WELL, THE HARDINGS BUILT A WONDERFUL VICTORIAN
|
| 00:06:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HOME IN 1890, COMPLETED IT IN 1891.
|
| 00:06:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT HAS TEN ROOMS. THE LIBRARY IS ADJACENT TO THE PARLOR HERE. AND THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTERTAINED BY THE HARDINGS IF YOU HAD COME HERE...
|
| 00:06:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS IS ALL THE FURNITURE IN THIS ROOM, IN THE PARLOR. THIS PARLOR
|
| 00:06:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS ADJACENT, THEN, TO OUR RECEPTION HALL. AND THIS IS THE FORMAL ROOM, WHERE ALL OF THE INTERESTING GUESTS WOULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED DURING THE FAMOUS...
|
| 00:07:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AT CHRISTMAS TIME AND OTHER HOLIDAYS. AND PEOPLE FROM
|
| 00:07:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MARION ARE REALLY -- REALLY TALK ABOUT BEING HERE AND BEING ENTERTAINED BY THE HARDINGS BEFORE HIS POLITICAL CAREER. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT...
|
| 00:07:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARE. AGAIN, THIS IS MARION,
|
| 00:07:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OHIO. WE'RE ABOUT TWO HOURS SOUTH OF TOLEDO, MAYBE AN HOUR, A LITTLE MORE THAN AN HOUR NORTH OF COLUMBUS, OHIO, NORTH CENTRAL OHIO. AND AGAIN, THE...
|
| 00:07:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AVENUE IN THIS CITY. AND WE'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR VIEWERS TO PHONE IN WITH THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE LIFE AND PRESIDENCY OF WARREN G. HARDING....
|
| 00:08:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BACK IN THOSE DAYS WITH THE BIG CROWDS GATHERING? >> WELL, IN THOSE DAYS, IT WAS QUITE EXCITING, NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF MARION, WHO CAME OUT --...
|
| 00:09:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
INTERESTS. >> AND YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE, THE FOLKS BACK AT HOME, A LOT OF FOLKS
|
| 00:09:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STANDING BEHIND YOU WITH UMBRELLAS. IT IS RAINING. BUT THEY ARE GATHERED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN LATER? >> WELL, AT ABOUT 10:00,...
|
| 00:09:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAMMONTREE WILL BE DELIVERING THAT SPEECH LATER TODAY. >> MELINDA GILPIN, WE ARE GONNA SAY THANKS AND ASK YOU TO HANG AROUND FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF...
|
| 00:09:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF A LOOK INSIDE THE HOUSE AND THE LIFE OF THE HARDINGS HERE IN MARION. SO, THANKS A LOT. >> THANK YOU. >> ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE ALONG MT. VERNON AVENUE....
|
| 00:09:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LAWN, UNDER A TENT, BY ROBERT FERRELL, RETIRED PROFESSOR AND AUTHOR OF A BOOK CALLED, "THE STRANGE DEATHS OF PRESIDENT HARDING." GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD...
|
| 00:09:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HERE TODAY, EVEN IN THE RAIN. >> WE APPRECIATE
|
| 00:09:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU COMING. TELL US WHAT THE ELECTION OF 1920 WAS ALL ABOUT. >> I THINK IT WAS REALLY ANTI-PRESIDENT WILSON. IT WAS, YOU MIGHT SAY, A NEGATIVE VOTE...
|
| 00:10:15 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHEN PRESIDENT WILSON SUFFERED A STROKE IN OCTOBER OF
|
| 00:10:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
1919. FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THE WILSON ADMINISTRATION WAS ALMOST TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE, AND THE COUNTRY TURNED
|
| 00:10:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AGAINST HIM, AS WELL, OF COURSE, AS THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES OF THAT ERA. >> AND THE TWO TICKETS RUNNING IN 1920, WHO WERE...
|
| 00:10:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WERE RUNNING AGAINST EACH OTHER. AND THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES
|
| 00:10:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WERE, OF COURSE, FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT, ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, AND CALVIN COOLIDGE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. IT WAS A RATHER DISTINGUISHED GROUP OF...
|
| 00:11:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WELL, I THINK PROFESSOR FERRELL HAD IT RIGHT ON THAT THE BIG ISSUES IN THE CAMPAIGN OF 1920 WERE THE ISSUE OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS AND THE ISSUE OF...
|
| 00:11:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WILSON, OF THE COLLAPSE OF WOODROW
|
| 00:11:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WILSON. AN INTERESTING QUESTION IS, HOW DID WARREN G. HARDING GET THE NOMINATION? BECAUSE HARDING CLEARLY WAS NOT FAVORED FOR THE NOMINATION IN
|
| 00:11:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
1920. THE TWO FAVORITES WERE GENERAL LEONARD WOOD AND THE ILLINOIS GOVERNOR, FRANK LOWDEN. IT WENT NINE BALLOTS IN CHICAGO. THERE WAS ALLEGEDLY A...
|
| 00:13:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIS PHILANDERING. AND THERE WAS APPARENTLY AN FBI FILE THAT WAS SEALED AND FINALLY OPENED UP YEARS LATER ON, SORT OF CONFIRMING
|
| 00:13:26 |
Caller, -
THAT. COULD I GET SOME COMMENTS ON THAT? >> YEAH, LET'S GO TO ROBERT FERRELL, AUTHOR OF, "THE STRANGE DEATHS OF PRESIDENT HARDING." WHAT'S THE STORY...
|
| 00:13:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. AND IF YOU DIDN'T READ IT THERE, YOU READ IT IN A BOOK BY CARLOS ANTHONY, THAT
|
| 00:13:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS PUBLISHED LAST YEAR, WHICH I CONSIDER ALMOST AS FICTIONAL AS THE MEANS BOOK. >> PROFESSOR TRANI, WHAT WAS THE REACTION TO THE DEATH OF PRESIDENT...
|
| 00:14:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
UNFOLD. AND I THINK THAT'S, AT LEAST IN PART,
|
| 00:14:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHY HARDING IS RANKED SO POORLY IN TERMS OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE RANKINGS IN A MOMENT. EXACTLY HOW LONG DID HARDING...
|
| 00:14:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HELLO. >> Caller: HELLO. I WAS INTERESTED IN THE -- IF ANY OF THE GENTLEMEN KNOW THE
|
| 00:14:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ANCESTRY OF PRESIDENT HARDING -- WHERE HIS FAMILY CAME FROM? PARTICULARLY WHETHER THERE WAS AN ANCESTRY BY THE NAME OF BUSH. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT I
|
| 00:15:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS RELATED TO HIM IN SOME FASHION, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE HIS FAMILY CAME FROM
|
| 00:15:11 |
Caller, -
AND PERHAPS SOME OF THE NAMES IN HIS ANCESTRY. >> WHY DON'T WE ASK MELINDA GILPIN TO HELP US WITH THAT. SHE IS BASED HERE AT THE HARDING HOME AND MUSEUM....
|
| 00:15:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEM WERE THE PARENTS OF WARREN HARDING. WE DO HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE IN THE
|
| 00:15:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LIBRARY OF MR. HARDING'S FAMILY. INCLUDED IN THAT IS GEORGE T. HARDING AND HIS WIFE, ELIZABETH. AND THEY WERE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL SETTLERS HERE IN...
|
| 00:16:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VILLAGE OF CLARIDON, WHERE HE DID NOT LIVE, BUT IF YOU GO ON A LITTLE FURTHER YOU GET TO BLOOMING GROVE, NEAR WHICH HE WAS BORN. HE WAS NOT BORN,...
|
| 00:17:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS A VILLAGE. THERE ARE SIX OR EIGHT HOUSES STILL THERE. AND HIS HOUSE, OF COURSE, HAS LONG SINCE BEEN TORN DOWN. >> WHAT DID HIS PARENTS DO? >> FARMERS....
|
| 00:17:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAPPENED TO HIM. >> PROFESSOR FERRELL
|
| 00:17:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OR PROFESSOR TRANI, MAYBE YOU CAN JUMP IN ON THIS, WHO WERE THE EARLY INFLUENCES, THE MOST IMPORTANT INFLUENCES OF WARREN HARDING WHEN HE WAS GROWING...
|
| 00:17:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT PROFESSOR FERRELL TALKED ABOUT. HE GOT INTO NEWSPAPER WORK EARLY, BECAME A STRONG REPUBLICAN. AND THE INFLUENCES OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ALSO HAD...
|
| 00:18:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
POLITICAL OFFICES BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE OHIO STATE SENATE FROM 1900 TO 1904. HE WAS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR...
|
| 00:18:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DEATH OF PRESIDENT HARDING, EITHER AND INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP. >> IT'S THE TOPIC THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY
|
| 00:19:00 |
Caller, -
OUR INITIAL CALLER. PROFESSOR FERRELL, CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THE DEATH? >> OH, YES, THE DEATH WAS AN INTERESTING ONE IN THE SENSE THAT THERE WERE...
|
| 00:19:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. THIS WAS RAY LYMAN WILBUR. THERE WAS A CARDIOLOGIST THERE NAMED COOPER. THERE WAS A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE
|
| 00:19:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AMA. AND THEY ALL MISDIAGNOSED THE DEATH. THEY SAID THAT HARDING DIED OF A STROKE. ACTUALLY, A STROKE TAKES TEN MINUTES. THE DEFINING DIFFERENCE...
|
| 00:20:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LIVE. IN 1927, THE HARDING MEMORIAL ASSOCIATION TOOK OVER THE HOME FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN RENTING IT FROM THE HARDINGS. AND IT'S BEEN A MUSEUM...
|
| 00:20:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU JUST FOR A MOMENT, MELINDA GILPIN, TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROPERTY. THERE'S NOT JUST THE MAIN HOUSE, BUT BEHIND WHERE WE ARE SITTING...
|
| 00:20:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CATALOG BY MR. HARDING IN 1920. AND IT IS A -- IT'S WHAT WE CALL THE PRESS HOUSE. IT'S THE ONLY BUILDING IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WAS BUILT SPECIFICALLY...
|
| 00:21:12 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. DURING THE CAMPAIGN, THEY WOULD JUST WALK UP TO THE FRONT PORCH, TAKE THEIR VIDEO, MAKE THEIR NOTES. AND THEY'D GO, THEN,...
|
| 00:21:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PRESS. >> HE HAD A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESS. CLEARLY, BEING ONE OF THEM, BY BEING THE EDITOR, PUBLISHER OF "THE MARION STAR," AND HE...
|
| 00:22:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BECAUSE OF WILSON'S ILLNESS AND WILSON'S INACCESSIBILITY IN TERMS OF THE PRESS, SO THE PRESS LIKED HARDING. HE LIKED THEM. AND I THINK HE VERY EFFECTIVELY...
|
| 00:22:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ELECTION. I BELIEVE, OF COURSE, THAT
|
| 00:22:52 |
Caller, -
WORLD WAR I WAS PROBABLY THE MOST UNPOPULAR WAR IN THIS CENTURY. THERE WAS -- I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE 11% OF THE PEOPLE WHO
|
| 00:23:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WERE DRAFTED, IT
|
| 00:23:02 |
Caller, -
WAS SOMETHING LIKE 300,000 PEOPLE
|
| 00:23:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHO EVADED THE
|
| 00:23:05 |
Caller, -
DRAFT. THERE WAS ALSO 330,000 CASUALTIES IN EUROPE. I THINK 114,00 DEATHS BETWEEN APRIL 1917 AND THE END OF THE WAR. AND I THINK THAT HAD A LOT TO...
|
| 00:23:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS THE VERY LARGE PROBLEM OF WILSON'S
|
| 00:23:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
COLLAPSE, AND WITH IT, THE COLLAPSE, I THINK, OF THE WILSON ADMINISTRATION. I THINK THIS IS WHAT LED INTO THE CAMPAIGN AND HARDING'S ENORMOUS SUCCESS....
|
| 00:24:31 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT WAS A BIG DEAL. AND HARDING WORKED VERY HARD SO THAT WOMEN CERTAINLY PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE ELECTION
|
| 00:24:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND IN THE ADMINISTRATION, FROM HARDING'S PERSPECTIVE. THAT HE CERTAINLY CATERED TO WOMEN AND THOUGHT THEY WERE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. >> DO YOU HAVE...
|
| 00:25:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GROWTH IN POPULATION, OBVIOUSLY THE WOMEN PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE
|
| 00:25:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ELECTION. >> WE'LL POINT OUT THAT, AS THE PROGRAM GOES ON, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK INSIDE THAT MUSEUM FROM TIME TO TIME AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PICTURES...
|
| 00:25:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORNING. >> Caller: REALLY ENJOYING YOUR PRESIDENTIAL SERIES. SOME QUESTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH PRESIDENT HARDING'S MASONIC AFFILIATION AND, IN PARTICULAR,...
|
| 00:26:00 |
Caller, -
ON SHOOTERS HILL IN ALEXANDRIA,
|
| 00:26:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 00:26:03 |
Caller, -
AND THE DIGNITARIES THAT CROSSED THE POLITICAL LINES THAT WERE PRESENT THERE ON THAT DAY. I JUST WONDERED IF YOUR HISTORIANS COULD SHED SOME LIGHT...
|
| 00:26:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DIED, UNFORTUNATELY, BEFORE HE WAS
|
| 00:26:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT
|
| 00:26:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CEREMONY. I KNOW IT TOOK HIM
|
| 00:26:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
QUITE A WHILE TO BECOME A MASON. HE HAD BEEN
|
| 00:26:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BLACKBALLED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS FROM THE LOCAL MASONIC ORDER. I DON'T KNOW
|
| 00:26:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PARTICULAR INCIDENT THAT THE CALLER IS ASKING ABOUT, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT, BUT I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH HIS MASONIC AFFILIATION...
|
| 00:27:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FIRST JOB CARRYING "THE MARION STAR" TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS. >> ROBERT FERRELL, HOW DID HIS DISPOSITION AND HIS
|
| 00:27:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FRIENDLINESS PLAY ITSELF OUT DURING HIS POLITICAL CAREER? >> I THINK IT WAS ONE OF HIS GREAT QUALITIES. IT WAS A QUALITY THAT PRESIDENT WILSON UTTERLY...
|
| 00:27:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GOOD ONE. HE ALIENATED THE FACULTY AT PRINCETON. AND HE ALIENATED THE SENATE. AND HARDING
|
| 00:27:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WOULD NEVER DO A THING LIKE THAT. THIS WAS ONE OF HARDING'S GREAT QUALITIES. >> PROFESSOR TRANI, WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? >> NO, I THINK THAT PROFESSOR...
|
| 00:28:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SIGNIFICANTLY. >> WE HAVE A CALLER THIS
|
| 00:28:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORNING FROM AMELIA ISLAND, FLORIDA. GO AHEAD. >> Caller: YES, GOOD MORNING. GREAT SHOW. THIS QUESTION IS POSED TOWARDS PROFESSOR TRANI. I ATTENDED...
|
| 00:28:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VERY OLD, BY A GASTON B. MEANS ABOUT HARDING. AND I WAS SITTING
|
| 00:28:45 |
Caller, -
HERE. WHEN YOU MENTIONED HIS NAME, I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR. WE STILL HAVE THIS THING. IT'S ALL BEAT-UP. IT'S A COUPLE HUNDRED PAGES. BUT IT WAS...
|
| 00:29:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT SORT. THE BOOK ITSELF WAS LATER DENOUNCED BY THE WOMAN WHO WROTE IT. MEANS DID NOT WRITE THE BOOK. SHE HAS AN ARTICLE IN "LIBERTY"
|
| 00:29:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MAGAZINE IN 1931, IN WHICH SHE SAID IT WAS ALL FALSE. AND I BELIEVE THAT. >> THAT WAS "THE STRANGE DEATH" -- >> THAT WAS "THE STRANGE DEATH OF PRESIDENT...
|
| 00:29:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I DISCUSSED THE DEATH OF HIS REPUTATION, WHICH
|
| 00:30:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
INDEED WAS REDUCED ALMOST TO NOTHING BY THE LATE 1920s, CERTAINLY
|
| 00:30:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BY 1930. AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS RIGHT
|
| 00:30:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NOW. WHEN THE POLLS COME OUT, THE SCHLESINGER POLL OF DECEMBER 15th, IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES," 1996 OR -- YES. HARDING WAS THE LAST IN THE AMERICAN...
|
| 00:30:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF THEM ARE SCHOOL KIDS FROM THE MARION HARDING HIGH SCHOOL, SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT REENACTMENT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. LET'S GET A CALL FROM BELLEVUE,...
|
| 00:31:24 |
Caller, -
THAT TO MAINTAIN THE PROPER RATIO IN THE CONGRESS, THEY COULDN'T CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SO THEY DECIDE THAT...
|
| 00:32:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DRAMATICALLY BY THE 1920s AND CLEARLY
|
| 00:32:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAS GROWN EVEN MORE TODAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S 500,000 PEOPLE PER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NOW. >> WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORICAL POLLS...
|
| 00:32:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE FIRST ONE WAS TAKEN BY ARTHUR SCHLESINGER SR. IN 1948. THIS WAS FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES." HARDING CAME IN LAST. AND THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT OR...
|
| 00:33:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
REALLY SHOULD BE COUNTED, AND IN EVERY SINGLE ONE, HARDING COMES IN LAST. >> DID HE GET A FAIR DEAL? >> I DON'T THINK SO. NOT AT ALL. I'D BE GLAD TO...
|
| 00:33:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ONE, INVOLVING
|
| 00:33:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION, DID HARDING HAVE ANY WAY OF FINDING OUT EVEN
|
| 00:33:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PART OF THE
|
| 00:33:31 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STORY. AND THAT PART HE ACTED ON IMMEDIATELY, HE DISMISSED THE DIRECTOR OF THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION, WHO WAS COLONEL FORBES. >> WHAT WAS GOING ON...
|
| 00:33:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ABOUT IT, AND HE ACTED IMMEDIATELY.
|
| 00:34:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HE ACTUALLY HAD FORBES IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND A "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTER CAUGHT HIM SHAKING HIM LIKE A RAT. AND HE WAS SAYING SOME THINGS TO HIM...
|
| 00:34:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
POLL. IN THE 1962 POLL, HE WAS DEAD LAST.
|
| 00:35:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THERE HAVE BEEN THREE LARGE SURVEY POLLS, AND I THINK THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT. THE FIRST ONE APPEARED IN THE "SOCIAL SCIENCE QUARTERLY." GARY MARONELL...
|
| 00:36:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CERTAINLY THE VETERANS BUREAU,
|
| 00:36:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TEAPOT DOME, WHETHER HARDING KNEW ABOUT IT OR NOT, IT WAS HIS SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR, ALBERT B. FALL, WHO WAS THE FIRST CABINET OFFICER, I BELIEVE,...
|
| 00:37:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS THE ACCUSATION OF A PROFESSOR AT WOOSTER COLLEGE NAMED W.G. CHANCELLOR, WHO WAS, I THINK, NOTHING LESS THAN A
|
| 00:37:42 |
Caller, -
NUT. AND CHANCELLOR CREATED SOME BROADSHEETS THAT WERE
|
| 00:37:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 00:37:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BRUITED ABOUT AT THE CHICAGO CONVENTION, 1920. AND THEN IN 1922, HE PUBLISHED FUGITIVELY A BOOK THAT HE ENTITLED "A BIOGRAPHY." THIS WAS PUBLISHED...
|
| 00:38:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AS THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHO DID NOT APPROVE OF THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, THE ACTIONS OF UNDERGROUND RAILROAD CONDUCTORS OR ABOLITIONISTS THEMSELVES....
|
| 00:38:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
INCLUDING MEMBERS OF HARDING'S FAMILY WERE BASICALLY LIVING WITH THESE RUMORS DUE TO THEIR ACTIVITIES PRIOR TO THE CIVIL WAR WITH THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD...
|
| 00:39:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON OUR SERIES, "AMERICAN PRESIDENTS LIFE PORTRAITS" TO HELP YOU OUT WITH LESSONS. WE HAVE A CALL FROM HONOLULU THIS MORNING....
|
| 00:40:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CAUSE OF HARDING'S REPUTATION BEING DAMAGED IN THE LATE '20s AND INTO THE EARLY '30s. PROFESSOR FERRELL TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, AND PROBABLY...
|
| 00:40:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EVERYTHING. MENKIN, I MIGHT POINT OUT, VOTED FOR HARDING IN 1920. THERE WERE THEN THE JOURNALISTS, NOTABLY A MAN NAMED SAMUEL HOPKINS ADAMS WHO WAS...
|
| 00:42:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN. >> I BELIEVE IN PARTY GOVERNMENT AS DISTINGUISHED FROM PERSONAL GOVERNMENT -- INDIVIDUAL, DICTATORIAL, AUTOCRATIC OR WHAT NOT. IT WAS THE INTENT...
|
| 00:42:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GOVERNMENT. REPRESENTATIVE IN FORM, AND IT WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE POLITICAL PARTIES THE EFFECTIVE AGENCIES THROUGH WHICH HOPES AND ASPIRATIONS AND CONVICTIONS...
|
| 00:43:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
VERY COMPLETELY BUT GIVE AN ANSWER THAT REALLY DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO GRAB
|
| 00:43:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ONTO. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POLLS FOR A SECOND. AND I HATE TO KEEP FOCUSING ON THE POLLS. I THINK PROFESSOR FERRELL IS DEAD-RIGHT THAT CERTAINLY...
|
| 00:45:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE NOT ENCOUNTERED
|
| 00:45:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A SINGLE HISTORIAN -- I'M SORRY TO SAY -- WHO HAS READ THAT BOOK. AND, IN FACT, ONE OF THE POLITICAL SCIENTISTS AT INDIANA UNIVERSITY AT THE VERY TIME...
|
| 00:46:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WE LIKE MR. HARDING BECAUSE HE DID A GREAT JOB WITH STARTING A NEWSPAPER IN OUR COMMUNITY. HE PROVIDED A LOT OF JOBS. HE ALSO WAS A GREAT CIVIC LEADER...
|
| 00:47:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SOME TRUE, SOME NOT TRUE. I THINK ONE OF THINGS THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT IS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS -- HOW DO YOU TEACH THE SCANDALS TO OUR STUDENTS...
|
| 00:48:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BUDGET. THERE WAS NO BUDGETING IN THE GOVERNMENT PRIOR TO THAT.
|
| 00:48:08 |
Caller, -
HE PROPOSED AND PUT THROUGH A NATIONAL HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, NOT DONE AGAIN UNTIL EISENHOWER. HE CUT TAXES, BALANCED THE BUDGET, REDUCED THE...
|
| 00:48:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SINGLE-HANDEDLY,
|
| 00:48:22 |
Caller, -
HE GOT MAJOR BUSINESS TO GO TO THE EIGHT-HOUR DAY, WHICH EVEN CONGRESS COULDN'T DO DUE TO A SUPREME COURT RULING. HE IMPROVED OUR FOREIGN RELATIONS...
|
| 00:49:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SECRETARY OF COMMERCE, WHO WAS MUCH MORE THAN A SECRETARY
|
| 00:49:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF COMMERCE WHO HAD HIS HANDS IN SO MANY OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE HARDING
|
| 00:49:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 00:49:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ADMINISTRATION, AND CHARLES EVANS HUGHES, THE SECRETARY OF STATE. CLEARLY THERE WERE STRONG PEOPLE. CLEARLY THERE WERE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT I JUST ...
|
| 00:50:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I'VE -- NOBODY EVER TOLD ME. WOULD YOU MIND TALKING ABOUT IT, PLEASE? >> EUGENE TRANI, WHAT HAPPENED AT TEAPOT DOME? >> THERE HAVE BEEN
|
| 00:50:30 |
Caller, -
CONTROVERSIES OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE EXPLOITATION OF THE RESOURCES OF THE WEST. THERE WAS A BIG CONTROVERSY -- THE SO-CALLED "BALLINGER-PINCHOT...
|
| 00:50:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CENTURY. AND IT WAS BASICALLY PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO EXPLOIT THE NATURAL RESOURCES VERSUS PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO
|
| 00:50:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PRESERVE THE NATURAL RESOURCES. WHAT TEAPOT DOME HAPPENED TO BE WAS A SCANDAL ABOUT OIL RESERVES IN WYOMING AND IN CALIFORNIA, AND THE FACT, THAT,...
|
| 00:52:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN THE TEAPOT DOME UP TO HIS NECK, AND, IN FACT, WENT TO PRISON FOR IT. >> ROBERT FERRELL,
|
| 00:52:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU WANTED TO TALK. >> IF I MAY SAY JUST A WORD -- THERE WERE ONLY FIVE PEOPLE WHO POSSIBLY KNEW ABOUT TEAPOT DOME PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 1924, AND HARDING...
|
| 00:52:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND
|
| 00:52:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PROBABLY HIS WIFE, AND THEN HARRY F. SINCLAIR. ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THE SINCLAIR OIL STATIONS. NO ONE ELSE KNEW ABOUT THIS UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 1924,...
|
| 00:53:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF THE WOMEN'S VOTE IN 1920, AND WHETHER THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A BACKLASH AGAINST
|
| 00:53:32 |
Caller, -
WOODROW
|
| 00:53:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 00:53:37 |
Caller, -
WILSON. I HAD A SEEN A DOCUMENTARY ON CHANNEL TWO, IT WAS "THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE," WHERE A LOT OF THE SUFFRAGISTS SAID THAT WILSON TURNED A DEAF EAR...
|
| 00:54:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EVENTUALLY, I THINK THE PRESIDENT CAME AROUND,
|
| 00:54:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BUT HE WAS A BIT LATE ON THAT. >> WE'RE GONNA KEEP OUR TWO PROFESSORS HERE, TALK TO THEM A BIT LATER AND GET TO MORE OF YOUR CALLS A BIT LATER. BUT RIGHT...
|
| 00:55:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HOUSE MAKING A SPEECH. THE CROWDS ARE GATHERING THERE. AGAIN, THIS IS BACK IN THE EARLY 1920s. FLORENCE AND WARREN G. HARDING THERE. AND AGAIN, AT...
|
| 00:55:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
1920. SENATOR HARDING, AS HE CAMPAIGNED ON THE FRONT PORCH, EXTOLLED MANY THINGS THAT HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO INSTITUTE. BUT NOW THAT HE HAS BEEN ELECTED...
|
| 00:57:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ACTIVITIES OF WHICH ARE SO WOVEN INTO THE HISTORY OF THIS REPUBLIC. A VERY SACRED AND SOLEMN UNDERTAKING TO UTTER THE FAITH AND ASPIRATIONS OF MANY...
|
| 01:24:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ABOUT WARREN G. HARDING, PERHAPS REACT TO THE REENACTMENT OF THE SPEECH IN THE EASTERN AND CENTRAL...
|
| 01:25:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND MR. HARDING, I THINK, EXEMPLIFIES THAT. HE WAS A NEWSPAPER MAN IN A SMALL TOWN, THAT ROSE TO THE HIGHEST OFFICE
|
| 01:25:17 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN AMERICA, AND I THINK THERE'S A LESSON THERE FOR ALL STUDENTS, AND ACTUALLY ADULTS, AS WELL. >> AND WHAT ABOUT ACCOMPLISHMENTS? >> WELL, HE ACCOMPLISHED...
|
| 01:25:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BEEN A LITTLE BIT IGNORED.
|
| 01:25:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. >> WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MORE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF WARREN G. HARDING -- HIS LIFE AND HIS PRESIDENCY, THE...
|
| 01:26:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HERE. BUT I KNOW, FROM WORKING HERE AT THE HARDING HOME, THAT MANY OF THOSE STORIES WERE PERHAPS UNFOUNDED. AND HISTORY, THROUGH THE YEARS, YOU ALWAYS...
|
| 01:26:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BAD. BUT, I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE OF MR. HARDING. AND THERE WERE A LOT OF POSITIVES THAT GET IGNORED, UNFORTUNATELY. >> SHANNON MORRIS...
|
| 01:26:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ON THE SPEECH? >> I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL-WRITTEN, VERY ARTICULATE. I THOUGHT IT PUT OUT SOME VERY GOOD GOALS FOR ANY PRESIDENT TO TRY AND STRIVE...
|
| 01:27:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LEARNED ABOUT WARREN HARDING THROUGH YOUR YEARS IN SCHOOL? >>
|
| 01:27:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
UM, ACTUALLY, NOT AS MUCH AS I'VE LEARNED BY JUST BEING HERE
|
| 01:27:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TODAY. WE'VE
|
| 01:27:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STUDIED HIS
|
| 01:27:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ADMINISTRATION A
|
| 01:27:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LITTLE BIT THROUGH GOVERNMENT. AND WE KNOW, OF COURSE, SINCE WE GO TO MARION HARDING
|
| 01:27:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SCHOOL, WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST HIS CAMPAIGN. BUT MORE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ACTUALLY LEARNED HAVE BEEN THROUGH
|
| 01:27:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HERE. I KNOW ABOUT THE LIMITED
|
| 01:27:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARMS TREATY TALK. I KNOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS THE 29th PRESIDENT AND THAT HIS SERVICE WAS TERMINATED BY HIS DEATH IN 1923. >> THANK YOU VERY...
|
| 01:27:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HARDING MEMORIAL HERE IN MARION IS ONE OF THE
|
| 01:27:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LARGEST PRESIDENTIAL
|
| 01:27:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MONUMENT OUTSIDE OF
|
| 01:27:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WASHINGTON,
|
| 01:27:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 01:27:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
D.C. AND, ALSO, AS FAR AS CONNECTING IT WITH HARDING
|
| 01:28:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP CALLED THE CLING SCHOLARSHIP. AND THAT
|
| 01:28:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS FROM -- MRS. HARDING'S NIECE ACTUALLY STARTED THAT. AND IT GOES TO A STUDENT WHO IS GOING TO PURSUE A CAREER IN MEDICINE OR MUSIC, BECAUSE MR....
|
| 01:28:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WELL, FOR YOUR TIME. I
|
| 01:28:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. WE'RE GONNA TALK TO KEN HAMMONTREE IN JUST
|
| 01:28:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A MOMENT. HE PERFORMED THE RE-ENACTMENT OF THE SPEECH BY WARREN G. HARDING. WE'LL TAKE A COUPLE CALLS FIRST, THOUGH -- REACTION TO THE RE-ENACTMENT
|
| 01:28:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF THE SPEECH. BOLSHIRE, LOUISIANA, IS OUR FIRST CALL. GO AHEAD. >> Caller: MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT -- I ENJOYED HEARING THAT, BUT I'M VERY CURIOUS
|
| 01:29:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ABOUT ALBERT BACON FALL. I BECAME VERY INTERESTED IN HIM. AND I FEEL LIKE HE HAD A VERY RAW DEAL. I READ A MONOGRAPH BY DAVID STRATON, AND HE COMES
|
| 01:29:21 |
Caller, -
OFF AS A VERY SYMPATHETIC CHARACTER IN THE MONOGRAPH. AND, APPARENTLY, IN OTHER STATES HAD A SERIES OF JAPANESE EXPANSIONS AT THAT TIME. AND, SINCE...
|
| 01:30:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STATE. IN 1921/1922, WHEN THIS MONEY WAS OFFERED TO HIM, HE THOUGHT IT WAS A
|
| 01:30:18 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LOAN. AND THAT'S WHAT HE
|
| 01:30:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 01:30:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SAID. BUT IT WAS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE TIME. IT WAS ABOUT $400,000. IT CAME FROM SINCLAIR AND DOHEMY, WHO WERE TWO OILMEN, AND THEY...
|
| 01:31:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
QUESTION TO PROFESSOR EUGENE TRANI DOWN IN RICHMOND. IMMIGRATION AT THAT TIME, SET THE STAGE FOR US. >> WELL, YOU HEARD
|
| 01:31:28 |
Caller, -
IT IN THE SPEECH. HARDING WAS FOR AMERICA FIRST, RETURNING THE COUNTRY TO NORMALCY. THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT IMMIGRATION. THERE WERE...
|
| 01:31:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YEAR OF THE WILSON ADMINISTRATION IN THE SO-CALLED "GREAT AMERICAN RED
|
| 01:31:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SCARE." AND THERE WAS A MOVEMENT TO PUT QUOTAS ON IMMIGRANTS, PARTICULARLY FROM SOUTHERN AND EASTERN EUROPE. AND, IN FACT, THAT WAS THE MAJOR CHANGE...
|
| 01:33:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NEVER REALLY WOULD'VE MEMORIZED IT. AND, JUST TO GET THE GIST OF THE SPEECH. AND, THEN, OF COURSE, HOW YOU SEE ME DRESSED HERE TOOK A LITTLE
|
| 01:33:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 01:33:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
RESEARCH. AND ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OF RESEARCH IN HARDING TO PREPARE FOR
|
| 01:33:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TODAY. >> AND THE WHITE PANTS, DARK TOP -- TELL US MORE. >> WELL, AS YOU SEE PRESIDENT HARDING STANDING HERE -- OR HOPEFULLY TO BE A PRESIDENT IN THE...
|
| 01:33:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT HAS WHITE PANTS OR
|
| 01:33:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CREME-COLORED PANTS. AND, HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL SET ME APART FROM THE CROWD. >> TELL US MORE ABOUT THE MANNERISMS, THE DEMEANOR, THE CHARACTER -- HOW...
|
| 01:34:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EXPRESSIONS. AND I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND, ALSO, LISTENING TO SOME OF HIS SPEECHES, WHICH WE HAVE RECORDED,
|
| 01:34:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ALSO WAS A HELP. >> WE WILL TALK MORE IN A COUPLE MINUTES. WE'LL KEEP YOU AROUND HERE ON THE FAMOUS FRONT PORCH OF THE HARDING HOME. ALSO, OUR TWO PROFESSORS...
|
| 01:34:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS BETTY KOCH. I'M A RETIRED HISTORY TEACHER FROM HIGH SCHOOL. WE DO HAVE A RECORD FROM HARDING'S INAUGURAL ADDRESS, WHICH MY FATHER-IN-LAW -- THOUGHT...
|
| 01:35:09 |
Caller, -
HARDING'S WIFE WAS FLORENCE CLING. I HAVE RESEARCHED IT AND REALIZED SHE DIDN'T HAVE A SISTER. OUR KOCH FAMILY IS MARRIED TO A LOUISA CLING. IS THERE...
|
| 01:35:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MENTIONS, WE
|
| 01:35:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT AS OF YET, BUT WE STILL DO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT WE
|
| 01:36:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CAN ATTEMPT TO LOCATE AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME
|
| 01:36:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORE ON THAT FOR HER.
|
| 01:36:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BUT, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY TYPE OF A MATCH FOR HER WITH THE CLING FAMILY. AND, I MUST SAY, THAT THE CLING FAMILY GENEALOGY...
|
| 01:36:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
INTERESTS. BUT, MANY OF THE FAMILY THAT ARE CURRENTLY STILL LIVING
|
| 01:36:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN OHIO AND AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE CHOSEN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. >> BACK TO THE PHONES REGARDING WARREN G. HARDING. MADISON, WISCONSIN, THANKS FOR...
|
| 01:37:17 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WONDERING IF YOUR PROFESSORS HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT. THANK
|
| 01:37:22 |
Caller, -
YOU. >> PROFESSOR TRANI, CAN YOU TAKE US THROUGH THAT PERIOD? >> WELL, IN FACT, DURING THAT VOYAGE, HOOVER LATER RECOUNTED THAT HARDING RAISED THE ISSUE...
|
| 01:37:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PRESIDENT STEP FORWARD AND AT LEAST
|
| 01:37:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GET CREDIT FOR STEPPING FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE SCANDALS. BUT, HOOVER LATER SAID THAT HARDING NEVER UNBURDENED HIMSELF -- COMPLETELY TELLING SECRETARY...
|
| 01:38:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
READ THEIR BIOGRAPHIES AND I'VE
|
| 01:38:26 |
Caller, -
|
| 01:38:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BEEN TO THEIR HOMES, I STILL LEARN SOMETHING FROM THE SHOW. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. LET'S MOVE ONTO RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA, OUR NEXT CALL. MORNING....
|
| 01:39:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ME A LITTLE HISTORY ON HOW WILL H. HAYS WAS SELECTED AS POSTMASTER
|
| 01:39:06 |
Caller, -
GENERAL. WE KNOW THAT HE DID RESIGN DURING THE SCANDALS IN THE HARDING ADMINISTRATION AND BECAME THE WELL-KNOWN CENSOR "OLD MR. SCISSORS" IN HOLLYWOOD....
|
| 01:39:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 01:39:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOUR AUDITORS -- YOUR VIEWERS WOULD BE INTERESTED THAT THE AVERAGE SALARY IN THE UNITED STATES, SAY IN THAT TIME, WAS $1,500, MAYBE EVEN LESS THAN THAT....
|
| 01:40:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE STAR PRINTING OFFICES AND TOOK OUT PRINTING JOBS AND MADE MONEY THAT WAY, AS WELL. BUT I THINK THE BEST WAY
|
| 01:40:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT HE REALLY MADE MONEY WAS THROUGH THE BUSINESS SENSE OF HIS WIFE, FLORENCE KLING. HE WAS RUNNING A FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL NEWSPAPER AT THE TIME HE MARRIED....
|
| 01:42:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO TURN OUR BACK TO THE CAMERA, BUT IF YOU CAN POINT OUT AND EXPLAIN, AS A PERFORMER, AS THE PRESIDENT, HOW WOULD HE HAVE PROJECTED HIS VOICE WITHOUT...
|
| 01:42:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT IN THE SPEECH, THAT HE COULD PROJECT ACROSS AND THE VOICE WOULD BOUNCE BACK ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOMES. HE WAS A TREMENDOUS SPEECH WRITER...
|
| 01:43:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LEWIS AND PRESIDENT HARDING. >>
|
| 01:43:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHY DO YOU DO IT? >> WELL, I USED TO TEACH. TAUGHT OHIO HISTORY, AMERICAN HISTORY, GOVERNMENT. AND I FOUND OUT BY DRESSING UP AND GOING INTO THE CLASSROOM...
|
| 01:43:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BACK TO THE PHONES, WARREN G. HARDING.
|
| 01:43:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WASHINGTON, D.C., HELLO. >> Caller: YES, HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS MORNING? >> DOING FINE. >> Caller: YEAH, I WANT TO RAISE A QUESTION ABOUT WARREN G. HARDING'S...
|
| 01:43:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARTICLE
|
| 01:43:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OR A NEWS STORY, I GUESS
|
| 01:43:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU'D SAY, TALKED ABOUT WARREN G. HARDING'S AFRICAN
|
| 01:43:55 |
Caller, -
ANCESTRY. SO, I'D
|
| 01:43:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LIKE FOR SOMEONE TODAY
|
| 01:43:58 |
Caller, -
TO DISCUSS THAT. AND WHY ISN'T WARREN G. HARDING THEN CLASSIFIED AS THE FIRST KNOWN AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT? >> ACTUALLY, CALLER IT IS SOMETHING...
|
| 01:44:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS -- THEY WERE VERY ADVOCATE ABOLITIONISTS. THEY WORKED ON THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD. AND HE HAD AN UNCLE, WHO
|
| 01:44:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS QUITE AN -- A VERY ACTIVE CONDUCTOR ON THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD. MANY PEOPLE IN OHIO DURING THAT TIME, SOME WERE PRO SLAVERY, SOME WERE ABOLITIONISTS....
|
| 01:45:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THINGS, EXCEPT HE SAID ONE WRONG THING, NAMELY THAT IT WOULD
|
| 01:45:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BE IMPOSSIBEL FOR THE TWO RACES TO HAVE ANY KIND OF SOCIETY TOGETHER. BUT THEN HE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP UPON IT. THE AMERICAN LEADERSHIP OF THE NAACP...
|
| 01:46:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HISTORIANS. MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS NOT TO BELIEVE THE HISTORY UNTIL YOU KNOW THE HISTORIANS. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
|
| 01:46:50 |
Caller, -
AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM FOR THAT. THIRDLY, MR. HARDING SEEMED LIKE A GOOD MAN OF WHOM A LOT OF PEOPLE TOOK ADVANTAGE. AND HE JUST DID NOT KNOW HOW TO CRACK...
|
| 01:47:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ADMINISTRATION, DO YOU THINK
|
| 01:47:26 |
Caller, -
THAT LATER WHEN THE HISTORIANS REVIEW THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION THEY MAY REVISE THE RATING OF PRESIDENT HARDING BECAUSE AT PRESENT,
|
| 01:47:34 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HE'S RATED
|
| 01:47:35 |
Caller, -
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST OF EFFECTIVE PRESIDENTS. >> PROFESSOR EUGENE TRANI, DOWN IN RICHMOND, YOU'VE SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT THE POLLS. WHAT DO YOU MAKE...
|
| 01:47:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND SOME CABINET MEMBERS PLEADING GUILTY TO CERTAIN
|
| 01:48:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OFFENSES. I THINK, HOWEVER, YOU HAVE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATIONS. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WILL HAVE SERVED EIGHT YEARS...
|
| 01:49:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PORCH CAMPAIGN OF PRESIDENT HARDING. AND WE'LL HEAR WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY AS THEY REMEMBER THAT CAMPAIGN. >>> I WAS ONLY 4 YEARS OLD, BUT I REMEMBER...
|
| 01:50:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SNYDERS. AND I REMEMBER THE CROWD AND HOW THEY PRESSED IN. AND FINALLY, MRS. SNYDER SAID, "NOW, I THINK WE SHOULD SHAKE HANDS WITH THE FUTURE PRESIDENT."...
|
| 01:51:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIM AND EVERYTHING LIKE
|
| 01:51:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT. SO, HE STOOD RIGHT HERE. AND GUYS, BIG SHOTS -- HARVEY FIRESTONE AND HENRY FORD, THOMAS EDISION, I THINK, WAS ONE OF THEM -- CAME TO SEE HARDING....
|
| 01:56:18 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HOME. THEY'RE ALL FOUND ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THEY SHARE A COMMON CHIMNEY. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL WORKWOOD TILE THAT MRS. HARDING SELECTED FROM CINCINNATI...
|
| 01:57:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SCANDAL AND HIS APPROACH TO HERBERT HOOVER ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE CERTAIN THINGS. I HAVE IN MY POSSESSION HERE A BOOK CALLED...
|
| 01:57:21 |
Caller, -
PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTER," MY NAN BRITTON. AND SHE IS THE MOTHER OF ELIZABETH ANN, THE FATHER -- THE CHILD, RATHER, OF WARREN HARDING. AND THE HOUSE IN...
|
| 01:58:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MARION. SHE THEN STAYED IN MARION, WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL. HER ENGLISH
|
| 01:58:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TEACHER WAS WARREN HARDING'S SISTER. AND THEN AFTER SOME MOVES, SHE WENT TO NEW YORK. SHE DID DO TWO BOOKS. ONE WAS PUBLISHED IN 1927, IN WHICH SHE...
|
| 01:59:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TALKS ABOUT LETTERS FROM HARDING. THEY DO NOT EXIST. BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE OTHER MAJOR AFFAIR THAT HARDING HAD CARRIE...
|
| 02:00:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THOSE LETTERS DO EXIST. NOW, THOSE LETTERS ARE SEQUESTERED WITH THE COURT PUTTING AN OPENING DATE. AND I BELIEVE IT'S 2014. AND THEY'RE PRETTY GRAPHIC...
|
| 02:01:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF CONGRESS. THERE'S SOME FILM ON
|
| 02:01:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THIS. BUT I MUST SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE LETTERS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN CARL ANTHONY'S BOOK LAST YEAR. CARL ANTHONY VIOLATED A COURT ORDER BY PUBLISHING...
|
| 02:02:21 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
REPUTIATED THE INTELLECTUAL PRESIDENT WILSON AND HIS WAR WAS NOW
|
| 02:02:25 |
Caller, -
AT EASE WITH WARREN GAMALIEL HARDING -- A CARD-PLAYING, SMALL-TOWN SPORT OF A PRESIDENT, WHO WAS REPUDIATED TO BE A PHILANDERER WITH A BUNGALOW MIND,...
|
| 02:03:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:03:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:03:31 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:03:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SPEAKING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND IT DIDN'T EXIST, BUT IT APPEALED TO PEOPLE -- THE IDEA OF A GANG, THE IDEA OF BOOTLEG LIQOUR AND ALL THESE STORIES....
|
| 02:04:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE PRESIDENT VIOLATING A NATIONAL LAW. AND I THINK THAT THAT AGAIN CONTRIBUTES TO HIS LOW
|
| 02:04:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
REPUTATION. BUT BY 1923, EVEN HE HAD BECOME CONCERNED ABOUT PLAYING POKER AND DRINKING IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> IF I MAY SAY SOMETHING ON THAT -- ONE...
|
| 02:04:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OPPOSITE. I THINK IT WAS MARK SOLUMN THE ONE TIME WHO SAID TO HARDING THAT HE WANTED A DRINK, AND HARDING HAD TO GO IN A COAT CLOSET AND GO WAY INTO...
|
| 02:05:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BIG RALLY THERE IN THE EARLY '20s. AND THE SECOND
|
| 02:05:30 |
Caller, -
PART TO GO ALONG WITH THAT IS, IF EITHER OF THE PROFESSORS FEEL THAT HARDING'S EVER GOING TO GET A FAIR SHAKE AT HISTORY THE WAY HE'S JUDGED? TO ME,...
|
| 02:06:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:06:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FILM IN THE COOLIDGE ADMINISTRATION. I LOOKED UP THE ROLL OF FILM. AND THERE WAS A PAPER OUT IN ARKANSAS OR OKLAHOMA THAT ASSERTED THAT MUCH. THAT...
|
| 02:06:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
INFORMATION SYSTEMS STUDENTS. AND WE APPROACH HISTORY FROM AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
|
| 02:06:50 |
Caller, -
POINT OF VIEW, AND AS OPPOSED TO HISTORY TEACHERS FROM OUR LIBERAL ARTS SCHOOL. AND I THINK WE TEND TO BE MORE "MIDDLE OF THE ROAD" TEACHERS THAN...
|
| 02:07:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WORKED REAL
|
| 02:07:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HARD ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE DID MUCH BETTER THAN WILSON
|
| 02:07:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DID. OBVIOUSLY, HARDING HAD COME FROM THE CONGRESS HIMSELF, SERVING AS A
|
| 02:07:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SENATOR
|
| 02:07:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FROM 1915 UNTIL HE BECAME PRESIDENT, AS A SENATOR FROM OHIO. AND YOU JUST TAKE ONE EXAMPLE OF HARDING AND THE APPOINTMENT
|
| 02:08:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF THE DELEGATION FOR THE WASHINGTON NAVAL CONFERENCE. HARDING PUT TWO SENATORS ON IT -- HENRY CABBOT LODGE, THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS...
|
| 02:09:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO MELINDA GILPIN, WHO RUNS THE HISTORIC SITE HERE, TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP...
|
| 02:10:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DID HAVE QUITE A NUMBER OF THEM, AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT SHE HAD TO BE MARRIED ON THE UPSWING OF THE HOUR. SHE BEGAN HER WEDDING AT 8:30 IN THE EVENING....
|
| 02:11:15 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MARION BUILT WITH A BATHROOM IN IT. AND CURRENTLY, I'M WALKING INTO THE MASTER BEDROOM. THIS BEDROOM DOES CONTAIN THE BEDROOM SET THAT THE HARDING'S...
|
| 02:11:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN 1910, COMPLETELY MADE OF SOLID BIRDSEYE MAPLE. >> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAKE A LOOK AROUND THAT BEDROOM AND TALK MORE WITH MELINDA GILPIN,...
|
| 02:11:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MEMBER OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI, HONORARY MEMBER. GOT SOME NEW BOOKS ON PENDERGAST I HEAR. AND MY KIDS HAVE ALREADY IN LINE FOR CHRISTMAS -- BUY...
|
| 02:12:03 |
Caller, -
VERY INTERESTING -- YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMAN GOT SOME VERY BAD PRESS I THOUGHT WAS VERY UNFAVORABLE TOWARDS TRUMAN. AND I WONDER -- WHAT ABOUT HARDING?...
|
| 02:12:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PERIOD, AFTER HARDING'S DEATH, REALLY WENT AFTER HIS REPUTATION. BUT HARDING WAS VERY ACCESBILE TO THE PRESS, MET WITH THEM, IN
|
| 02:12:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SOME CASES, ALMOST DAILY. AND THEY FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT HIM. >> DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW HIS PAPER, "THE STAR," REPORTED ON HIS OWN POLITICAL CAREER?...
|
| 02:13:12 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE PAPER COVER ITS OWN OWNER? >> WELL, VERY FAVORABLY, BUT HARDING ACTUALLY IN HIS LOCAL TOWN WAS FAIRLY HUMBLE.
|
| 02:13:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EVEN HIS WEDDING
|
| 02:13:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ANNOUNCEMENT WAS JUST A SMALL PARAGRAPH, SAYING THEY
|
| 02:13:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WERE MARRIED HERE, WHAT TIME, AND WHERE THEY WENT
|
| 02:13:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ON THEIR HONEYMOON AND WHEN THEY WOULD BE BACK. HE WAS FAIRLY HUMBLE. AND ALTHOUGH, DURING HIS PRESIDENCY AND AFTERWARDS, OF COURSE, HIS FRIENDS WERE...
|
| 02:13:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAD WORKED FOR HIM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEY REPORTED VERY FAVORABLY ON HIM. >> WHILE WE HAVE YOU UPSTAIRS IN THAT BEDROOM, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE...
|
| 02:14:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT ONE TIME, CUSTOM MADE FOR HIM FOR THAT OCCASSION. ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS ABOUT THE TWIN BEDS HERE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL BIRDSEYE
|
| 02:14:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SET. ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY DO WANT TO SAY -- THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION THAT THE HARDING'S KEPT SEPARATE BEDS THEIR ENTIRE MARRIAGE. AND THAT...
|
| 02:15:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GOING TO BE COVERING TODAY. AND I DID READ THAT MRS. HARDING HAD HAD A DAUGHTER FROM
|
| 02:15:43 |
Caller, -
A PRIOR MARRIAGE. AND I WONDERED IF HE EVER ADOPTED HER? AND IT ALSO MENTIONED THAT NAN BRITTON WAS SEEN WITH HIM IN WASHINGTON AND NEW YORK, WHERE...
|
| 02:16:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MONEY. THIS WAS INVOLVED WITH COLONEL FORBES. HE WAS A SUICIDE. AND THERE WAS A CLIPPING ON HIS DESK THAT
|
| 02:16:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SHOWED THAT HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN, WHICH WAS PERHAPS HIS INDICTMENT. THIS HAPPENED MONTHS AFTER HARDING'S DEATH. THE OTHER...
|
| 02:17:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MARRIAGE. SHE DID HAVE A SON NAMED MARSHALL, NOT A DAUGHTER. AND HER FIRST MARRIAGE WAS TO A YOUNG MAN NAMED PETE DE WOLFE. THEY WERE BOTH 19. THEY...
|
| 02:18:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEM. IT WAS FAIRLY COMMON AT THAT TIME. AND SIX MONTHS LATER, MARSHALL WAS BORN. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU ON THE DESK A PICTURE OF MARSHALL AS A YOUNG...
|
| 02:20:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NEW YORK CITY. AND SHE SAID, "I'M GOING TO
|
| 02:20:17 |
Caller, -
TELL YOU A SECRET, BUT YOU
|
| 02:20:18 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MUST NEVER TELL ANYONE." SO SHE TOOK ME IN
|
| 02:20:21 |
Caller, -
THE LIVING ROOM, AND SHE SHOWED ME A PICTURE, AND IT WAS A PICTURE OF PRESIDENT HARDING. I DON'T REMEMBER MEETING HER MOM, BUT I MIGHT HAVE. SO THAT...
|
| 02:20:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:20:55 |
Caller, -
OREGON. >> ROBET FERRELL'S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS. DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? >> YES. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ELIZABETH ANN, WHO I UNDERSTAND...
|
| 02:21:16 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:21:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHEN THE PHILLIPS' LETTERS BECAME PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, SHE REVEALED HERSELF AS THE DAUGHTER OF THE PRESIDENT. BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE SOME INFORMATION...
|
| 02:22:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHAT WERE THEIR SIGNIFICANCE? >> HE MADE FOUR APPOINTMENTS TO THE SUPREME COURT DURING
|
| 02:22:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIS TWO-YEAR
|
| 02:22:12 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PRESIDENCY. OBVIOUSLY, HE APPOINTED TAFT AS -- WAS THE MAJOR APPOINTMENT TO THE SUPREME COURT, BUT HE ALSO APPOINTED, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUSTICE SUTHERLAND....
|
| 02:22:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TWO OTHER PEOPLE HE APPOINTED TO THE SUPREME COURT. >> I THINK IT SAYS BUTLER -- >> BUTLER AND STANFORD, YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN. THESE WERE ALL...
|
| 02:22:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN IN TERMS OF THEIR BELIEFS. >> AND TAFT WAS THE ONLY PRESIDENT TO GO ONTO THE SUPREME COURT, CORRECT? >> I BELIEVE THAT
|
| 02:22:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS TRUE. >> LET'S GO ONTO SUNMAN, INDIANA. HELLO. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING. >> MORNING. >> Caller: WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SHOW. IT HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC...
|
| 02:23:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HARDING'S SON. SO I WAS GOING TO
|
| 02:23:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GO ONTO PERHAPS YOUR HOME
|
| 02:23:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DIRECTOR COULD MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF
|
| 02:23:23 |
Caller, -
THE FRONT PORCH IN 1903 AND PRESIDENT HARDING'S
|
| 02:23:25 |
Caller, -
UNUSUAL HABIT FOR BREAKFAST, WHAT HE ATE THE MOST. >> MELINDA GILPIN. >> I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COMMENT ON THAT. ACTUALLY, THE FRONT PORCH STORY IS...
|
| 02:23:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS CONSTRUCTED,
|
| 02:23:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ALTHOUGH THE TILE WORK THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN ON THE AIR WAS ADDED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 1920 CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE A HOUSE JUST DOWN THE STREET...
|
| 02:24:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FROM WARREN HARDING -- I USED TO GO BY HIS HOUSE EVERY DAY. THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE LETTER DATED
|
| 02:25:03 |
Caller, -
SEPTEMBER 23rd, 1921, TO A JAMES KNAPP, AND IT CONCERNS WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM ON HIS MASONRY DEGREE. THIS LETTER SAYS, "MY...
|
| 02:25:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. THAT WAS NOT TRUE, AS WE HEARD IT THIS
|
| 02:26:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORNING. BUT I'LL BACK OFF FROM THAT ONE. >> LET'S GO TO KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE. HELLO? KNOXVILLE? ONE MORE TIME, KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE? LET'S TRY AUBURN,...
|
| 02:26:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S DEATH, SHE MOVED OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS AT THE VIRGINIA ESTATE OF A FRIEND READING, SORTING AND BURNING...
|
| 02:26:41 |
Caller, -
OFFICE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS STORY IS CORRECT AND ASK PROFESSOR TRANI WHAT HE THINKS SHE BURNED AND HOW COMPLETE THE REMAINING HARDING PAPERS...
|
| 02:27:15 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SHE DID DESTROY SOME OF THE
|
| 02:27:17 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MATERIALS. PROFESSOR FERRELL, I KNOW YOU'VE STUDIED MRS. HARDING AT SOME LENGTH. WOULD YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON THAT ADDITIONALLY? >> THERE APPEARED TO...
|
| 02:27:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORNING. MY QUESTION IS REGARDING MANIFEST DESTINY. THIS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST TRAGEDIES OF AMERICAN HISTORY, AND SO FAR IT'S BEEN IGNORED ON YOUR...
|
| 02:28:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NATIVE AMERICANS OR NO
|
| 02:28:06 |
Caller, -
GREAT AUTHORS, NO
|
| 02:28:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
COLLEGES. IT'S A BIG
|
| 02:28:10 |
Caller, -
VOID. AND I'M WONDERING WHY NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER BEEN CONCERNED TO DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE ABOUT THIS. WE ARE GOING IN ANOTHER CENTURY. THERE...
|
| 02:28:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CENTURY. >> MORE ON WARREN G. HARDING, THE MAN, WHAT HE WAS LIKE.
|
| 02:28:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WE HAVE SOME MORE AUDIO, SO WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT HE SOUNDED LIKE. >> IT'S THE DAY OF ALL DAYS. WE DO WHAT THE WORLD HAS NEVER DONE BEFORE. NO...
|
| 02:29:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SURVIVED. I WANT TO BE A CONTRIBUTOR
|
| 02:29:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO THE ABIDING REPUBLIC. NONE OF US TODAY CAN BE SURE THAT IT STILL APPLIES FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, THAT WE MAY HOLD AN UNSHAKEN PARODY AND PASS...
|
| 02:30:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EGOTISM. WILSON CERTAINLY HAD THAT. TAFT HAD SOME OF THAT. THEODORE ROOSEVELT CERTAINLY KNEW THAT HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
|
| 02:30:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STATES. IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT SOMEONE IS EASY TO TALK WITH. HARDING WAS, AND COOLIDGE WAS, AND HARRY S. TRUMAN WAS. I DON'T THINK PERHAPS DWIGHT...
|
| 02:30:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LODGE. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT THE MASONIC
|
| 02:30:53 |
Caller, -
LODGE. SINCE YOU'RE ONLY ABOUT THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THERE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION. MY GRANDFATHER WENT TO LODGE ONE NIGHT WHEN...
|
| 02:32:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
COLLECTION. HE WAS AN AVID READER, ENJOYED READING QUITE A BIT. I'M STILL UPSTAIRS IN THE HOME, SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT...
|
| 02:32:24 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SENATOR IN THE STATE HOUSE IN COLUMBUS. HE USED THOSE DURING HIS SENATE SERVICE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A WONDERFUL GOLF CLUB THERE THAT MR....
|
| 02:33:23 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE KIND OF PERSON WHO GAVE OTHERS IDEAS THAN GIVING GREAT NEW IDEAS
|
| 02:33:31 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEMSELVES. HE SYNTHESIZED WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAID, SO I DO NOT CONSIDER HIM TO BE AN INTELLECTUAL PRESIDENT. AND PERHAPS, THAT IS YET ANOTHER REASON...
|
| 02:34:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE A SMALL COLLECTION OF PRESIDENTIAL AUTOGRAPHS AND DOCUMENTS. AND I HAVE A LETTER FROM WARREN HARDING. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GO DIG IT OUT,
|
| 02:34:20 |
Caller, -
BUT I REMEMBERED THAT THE LETTER STATED -- MY DEAR MR. SO AND SO OR SOMETHING. "IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO RIGHT THIS
|
| 02:34:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LETTER TO YOU AS A VERY PRIVATE
|
| 02:34:27 |
Caller, -
CITIZEN." AND I GOT THE IMPRESSION FROM THE LETTER THAT HE WAS GLAD TO BE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. OH, HE SAID, "I WROTE BUT VERY FEW LETTERS WHILE IN...
|
| 02:35:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THANKS. DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU
|
| 02:35:03 |
Caller, -
OFF THERE PROFESSOR. ROBERT FERRELL, DID WARREN HARDING ENJOY BEING PRESIDENT? >> I THINK
|
| 02:35:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HE DID. THE PRESIDENCY GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO GO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE LIKED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF HIS GREAT QUALITIES. I'M...
|
| 02:35:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
D.C., NEXT CALL. >> Caller: HELLO? >> HELLO? >> Caller: YES. MY QUESTION IS FOR ROBERT
|
| 02:35:28 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FERRELL. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE HARDING GENEALOGY, BUT FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW THAN THE CALLER TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. REGARDING HIS, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY...
|
| 02:35:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THERE BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS GROWN UP, YOU KNOW,
|
| 02:35:45 |
Caller, -
BEING
|
| 02:35:46 |
Caller, -
TOLD BY FAMILY MEMBERS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ALSO KNEW MANY OF THE HARDING FAMILY MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME MIXED RACIAL LINES,...
|
| 02:36:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FIND. I JUST SAW A COPY THIS
|
| 02:36:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MORNING. I'VE ONLY HEARD OF A HALF DOZEN COPIES OUT THERE. IN BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS, THAT IS IN 1920, AND THEN AGAIN IN 1922, HE ASSERTED THIS, BUT HE...
|
| 02:37:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PORTRAITS." AND 202-626-4850 -- 4858, RATHER IS THE NUMBER. 202-628-4858. AND YOU CAN REACH US AT CSPAN.ORG/CLASSROOM. NEW YORK CITY, WHAT WOULD YOU...
|
| 02:37:50 |
Caller, -
ESTRANGEMENT BETWEEN MY GREAT AUNT NAN AND HER DAUGHTER OVER THAT SUBJECT. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY. >> WHAT I HEARD IS THAT NAN'S GRANDSON HAD A STORY...
|
| 02:38:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF, PERHAPS COURTESY SAID, "WHO IS YOUR MOTHER?" AND SHE ANSWERED. AND THEN SAID, "AND WHO IS YOUR FATHER?" AND SHE REFUSED TO ANSWER. THAT'S THE...
|
| 02:38:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AMERICAN CORRELATION BETWEEN MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON YOUR SERIES. AND I'D LIKE TO START
|
| 02:39:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OFF BY TELLING HER A LITTLE BIT
|
| 02:39:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE. WARREN HARDING,
|
| 02:39:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DURING THE FRONT PORCH CAMPAIGN, IN ADDITION TO INVITING NUMEROUS PEOPLE HERE DURING THE CAMPAIGN AS CELEBRITIES, HE ALSO HAD DELEGATIONS FROM A VARIETY...
|
| 02:40:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WERE MEMBERS OF THE MASONIC LODGE WHILE THEY WERE IN OFFICE? I'VE OFTEN HEARD
|
| 02:40:13 |
Caller, -
INDIVIDUALS, LIKE McKINLEY AND OTHERS MENTIONED, AS BEING MEMBERS OF THE LODGE, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD A GRAND TOTAL. SO I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT IF EITHER...
|
| 02:40:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:40:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OFFICE? >> HOW AMERICA, I BELIEVE IN TERMS OF FOREIGN RELATIONS, RELATED TO THE WORLD WITHOUT ACCEPTANCE OF THE LEAGUE OF
|
| 02:40:57 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NATIONS. CLEARLY, THE ELECTION WAS A REFERENDUM ON THE LEAGUE. AND CLEARLY, HARDING DID NOT SUPPORT MEMBERSHIP IN THE LEAGUE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR...
|
| 02:41:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
COURT? WHAT DOES THE UNITED STATES DO VIS-A-VIS BOLSHEVIK RUSSIA? WHAT DOES THE UNITED STATES DO VIS-A-VIS THE COUNTRIES OF ENGLAND, FRANCE, ITALY,...
|
| 02:42:40 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TRAIN OF HARDING, WHEN IT WENT THROUGH
|
| 02:42:45 |
Caller, -
CHICAGO. I JUST APPRECIATE SO MUCH YOUR TAKING A POSITIVE ATTITUDE TOWARD HARDING AND JUST, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING THE FALSITY OF SO MANY RUMORS. I THINK...
|
| 02:44:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ALASKA WAS NOT TO GO TO ALASKA TO GET VOTES, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE COULDN'T VOTE, BUT IT WAS TO SHOW HIMSELF -- AND MRS. HARDING HERSELF
|
| 02:44:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SAID THIS -- TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WEST, SOME OF WHOM, SHE SAID, DID NOT KNOW THAT THEY HAD A PRESIDENT. I THINK HE WOULD HAVE RUN CERTAINLY, BUT HE...
|
| 02:44:55 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MARBLE. THE ONE INTERESTING POINT ABOUT IT, IN ITS DESIGN, IS THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE A TOP ON IT. MR. HARDING WAS EMPHATIC THAT
|
| 02:45:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HE WANTED TO BE
|
| 02:45:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
BURIED UNDER THE STARS
|
| 02:45:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WITHOUT A ROOF OF ANY TYPE OVER HIS TOMB. >> WE HAVE A CALL FROM, AGAIN, RIGHT HERE IN MARION. HELLO? >> Caller: HELLO? >> YES, SIR. >> Caller: MELISSA,...
|
| 02:45:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT SHE WAS THE OLDEST AND A GIRL. >> ANY COMMENT,
|
| 02:45:32 |
Caller, -
|
| 02:45:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:45:34 |
Caller, -
CALLER? >> Caller: WELL, I THINK SHE HAD TWO, BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEM ON FAIRGROUND
|
| 02:45:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
STREET. AND ONE OF THEM WAS NAMED NAOMI. AND
|
| 02:45:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE, A NIECE WOULD COME AND LIVE WITH THEM. AND I MOWED HER LAWN, 15 CENTS WHEN I MOWED IT. >> THANK YOU, CALLER. MELINDA, WHAT
|
| 02:45:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:45:55 |
Caller, -
BECAME OF THE HOUSE, THE PAPER, THE MONEY THAT THE HARDINGS HAD? >> WELL, MR. HARDING -- THE NEWSPAPER, ITSELF, WAS QUITE AN INTERESTING STORY. MR....
|
| 02:46:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AT THE SALE. AND ABOUT -- A DOWNPAYMENT HAD BEEN MADE BY THE NEW OWNERS, BUT MR. HARDING DIED BEFORE THE BALANCE HAD BEEN
|
| 02:46:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PAID. AND I BELIEVE THE ESTATE HAD TO TAKE THE NEW OWNERS TO COURT TO GET THE BALANCE OF THAT SUM PAID INTO MR. HARDING'S ESTATE. THE HOME ITSELF...
|
| 02:47:17 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS DONE AT. >> DOES ANYBODY KNOW
|
| 02:47:21 |
Caller, -
THAT? NOT HEARING ANYTHING. SORRY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT. PROFESSOR EUGENE TRANI, NEXT WEEK, THIS SEGMENT WILL FOCUS ON CALVIN COOLIDGE....
|
| 02:47:41 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WAS A CORDIAL, BUT NOT INTIMATELY FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP, THAT COOLIDGE WAS A MAN TO HIMSELF. AND I THINK HE RECOGNIZED HARDING'S WEAKNESSES. AND...
|
| 02:47:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AFTER HARDING'S DEATH TO SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM THE SCANDALS. I DO BELIEVE THAT COOLIDGE'S REPUTATION, WHICH HAS GONE THROUGH A FAIR AMOUNT OF REHABILITATION...
|
| 02:48:47 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DEATHS OF PRESIDENT
|
| 02:48:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HARDING." FROM RICHMOND, VIA SATELLITE, IS PROFESSOR EUGENE TRANI, AUTHOR OF THE "THE PRESIDENCY OF WARREN G. HARDING," ALSO PRESIDENT OF VIRGINIA ...
|
| 02:48:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS HARDING HOME STATE MEMORIAL -- OF THE HARDING HOME STATE MEMORIAL. SHE IS HISTORIC SITE MANAGER HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP TODAY. >>...
|
| 02:49:26 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
|
| 02:49:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TEST
|
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.