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INTRODUCED BY THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO MODERATE THE PANEL. JAMES MCPHERSON. HE IS MR. CIVIL WAR. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE ALL THINK WELL OF OURSELVES...
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| 00:03:31 |
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CAN TRAVEL FORWARD TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ULYSSES S. GRANT WITH OUR DISTINGUISHED PANEL. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN, AND PERHAPS NEVER AGAIN...
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| 00:06:04 |
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DISTINGUISHED GROUP OF GRANT
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| 00:06:06 |
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BIOGRAPHIES. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY. RATHER THAN HAVE EACH PANELIST MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REDUNDANT BECAUSE...
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| 00:08:26 |
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LINCOLN WAS THE STEADFAST SUPPORTER OF ULYSSES S. GRANT PRIOR TO MARCH OF 1864. THAT LINCOLN, WHILE SUPPORTIVE HAD QUESTIONS, MANY OF THEM QUITE UNDERABLE,...
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| 00:11:47 |
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TURNS OUT TO BE HALLOCK,
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| 00:11:50 |
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AND THEN HE FINDS GRANT, AND HE'S JUST RIGHT. WELL, IT'S A KIND OF FAIRY TALE THAT DOESN'T REALLY PLAY OUT IN TERMS OF THE CIVIL WAR. THERE'S NO...
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| 00:17:10 |
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AND MCCLELLAN WAS VICTORIES.
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| 00:17:14 |
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AND UNTIL 1864 WHEN GRANT COMES TO WASHINGTON, THE TIME HE ASKED THE PRESIDENT IS THAT GRANT PRODUCES VICTORIES. THE RELATIONSHIP, OBVIOUSLY, WAS NOT...
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| 00:18:51 |
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ON WASHINGTON, HAVING MOVED UP THROUGH THE VALLEY AND WERE AT ROCKVILLE, AND WITH ALMOST
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| 00:18:57 |
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NOTHING BETWEEN THEM AND THE WHITE HOUSE EXCEPT WISHFUL THINKING, PRESIDENT LINCOLN WROTE TO GRANT SUGGESTING THAT HE COME BACK AND TAKE CHARGE OF THE...
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| 00:20:08 |
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WERE STUPIDITY. THAT RAISES AN INTERESTING ISSUE ABOUT MCCLELLAN AND COMPARISONS BETWEEN MCCLELLAN AND GRANT. THERE'S ACTUALLY A RECENT BOOK THAT ADDRESSES...
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| 00:21:49 |
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HE WAS. HOW ARROGANT. AND AT THE SAME TIME FULL OF HIMSELF AND NOT OF THE WELFARE OF HIS COUNTRY. THERE'S PROBABLY NOBODY WHOSE PERSONAL FAULTS HAVE...
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| 00:25:22 |
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BETTER ANYWHERE ELSE THAN WHERE HE END UP. WHAT JOHN SEES AS THOSE LETTERS TO HIS WIFE AS SO INCRIMINATING. IF YOU COMPARE MCCLELLAN'S LETTERS TO...
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| 00:25:40 |
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THAT UNLESS GEORGE MCCLELLAN HAD BEEN HUMBLED AT SOME POINT EARLIER IN LIFE, HAD KNOWN SOME SORT OF FAILURE, HAD KNOWN THAT YOU COULDN'T TRUST YOUR PRESS...
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| 00:28:00 |
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REMEMBER SOMETHING
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| 00:28:01 |
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ABOUT WARFARE BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT GRANT BRINGS TO IT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT MCCLELLAN...
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| 00:30:40 |
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EXPERIENCE. >> FIRST OFF HE LEARNED THAT ROBERT E. LEE WAS MORTAL. HE HAD SERVED WITH LEE, AND HE WASN'T IMPRESSED WITH LEE AS BEING SUPERHUMAN AS...
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| 00:31:03 |
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LOGISTICS. WE TEND NOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT VERY MUCH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WARFARE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TROOPS WHO ARE MANEUVERING AND THE BAT THALS...
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| 00:33:02 |
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MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT TAILOR DID, AND HE MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FEW MEN WHO NOTICED IT. IT WAS TAILOR'S CALM ASSUMPTION OF RESPONSIBILITY.
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| 00:33:11 |
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HE HAS A SMALL ARMY, DEEP IN THE ENEMY'S COUNTRY, FAR AWAY FROM HOME. HE'S FACING -- HE'S NOT ONLY IN THE ENEMY'S COUNTRY. THE ENEMY HAS A BIGGER ARMY...
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| 00:35:42 |
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GREAT DEAL ABOUT WHAT THE ENEMY MIGHT BE DOING AWAY FROM HIS OWN OBSERVATION AND SIGHT, BUT THAT GRANT NEVER SEEMED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. AND THAT THAT...
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| 00:37:10 |
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OF SOLIDNESS THAT BRINGS HIM TO THE FIELD ABLE TO TAKE COMMAND OF THE SITUATION, ABLE TO RALLY MEN ON THE FIELD AT SHILO, ABLE TO MAKE THAT LAST DITCH...
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| 00:41:01 |
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CONFEDERACY OF ROBERT E. LEE, THIS OVERCONFIDENCE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW GRANT KNEW THAT ROBERT E. LEE WAS MORTAL. HE THOUGHT PILLOW WAS IN COMMAND...
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| 00:41:18 |
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IN VESTING THE CONFEDERATE FOR THE IF I INDICATION. -- FORTIFICATION. I THINK GRANT RESPONDS TO WHAT'S PRESENTED TO HIM AND IMPROVISE ON THE SPOT....
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| 00:43:30 |
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THE AUDIENCE. IT HAS BEEN ARGUED THAT -- THIS
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| 00:43:34 |
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IS A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO AN EARLIER QUESTION, AND THE COMPARISON MCCLELLAN AND GRANT, THAT DURING THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE WAR GRANT REALLY FACED
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| 00:43:45 |
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THE SECOND TEAM IN THE CONFEDERACY. THE CONFEDERATE GENERALS IN THE WEST JUST DIDN'T EQUAL THOSE IN THE EASTERN THEATER. GRANT WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS...
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| 00:44:58 |
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OPPOSITION. >> AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT ON THAT? I THINK I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO GENERAL QUESTIONS. PLEASE STATE YOUR QUESTION SUCK SINKLY. -- IS YOU...
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| 00:45:20 |
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BROUGHT FOOD WITH HIM TO FEED HIS ARMY, WHEN HE TOOK OVER FOR ROSECRANS. THOSE MEN WERE HUNGRY. WOULD YOU CARE ON COMMENTING ON GRANT'S INTEREST...
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| 00:45:38 |
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YEAB -- 1864 HE HAD 2,500 HEAD OF CATTLE WITH HIM. EARLIER WHEN HE WENT TO CHATTANOOGA HIS FIRST PRIORITY WAS TO FEED HIS ARMY. I THINK, JEAN, YOU...
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| 00:45:54 |
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OF GRANT'S EXPERIENCE AS A QUARTER MASTER IN MEXICO HE REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT LOGISTICS WERE. ANY FURTHER OBSERVATIONS? >> OF COURSE. THAT WAS ONE...
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| 00:46:26 |
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WAS INGRAINED IN GRANT FROM A VERY EARLY POINT. WHETHER HE WON OR LOST, HE HAD TO GET NOT ONLY GET HIS ARMY ACROSS THE RIVER, HE HAD TO KEEP IT FED....
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| 00:46:40 |
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WITH THE FOURTH INFANTRY REGIMENTS IN MEXICO. AND THIS WAS -- IT WAS A REAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE HERE HE IS. HE'S IN THE ENEMY'S COUNTRY. HE HAS TO...
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| 00:48:33 |
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WORKED. WHEN HE HAD HIS OWN JOHN A. RAL INNS. WE ACTUALLY FIND HIM DRAFTING ORDERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SIGNED BY RALINNS WHEN THEY WERE ISSUED. ...
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| 00:50:24 |
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WAR EFFORT. ONE THICK YOU SEE GRANT DOING IS GOING AFTER THE CONFEDERATE STRUCTURE REPEATEDLY. HE PROTECTED NOT ONLY HIS OWN SUPPLY LINES OR NEW SOURCES...
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| 00:52:05 |
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WELL, THE QUICK ANSWER IS HE WAS THE
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| 00:52:09 |
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ONLY FIT GENERAL FROM WASHBURN'S CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. AND BY GOD, WASHBURN, WHO WAS A MAN WHO LIVED AND DIED BY PATRONAGE WAS GOING TO GET A...
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| 00:52:27 |
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DISTRICT CREDIT. AND HE WOULD SUPPORT GRANT THROUGHOUT. BASICALLY HE UNDERSTOOD, OR AT LEAST CAME TO UNDERSTAND, LATER ON, THAT WHILE GRANT HAD...
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| 00:53:37 |
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| 00:53:38 |
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RELATIONSHIP, BUT NOT ALTOGETHER A DESTRUCTIVE ONE.
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| 00:53:44 |
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GRANT HONESTLY LIKED MEADE. TALK ABOUT DESTRUCTIVE LETTERS OF A MAN TO HIS WIFE, SOMETIMES MEADE'S LETTERS TO HIS WIFE AND THE LETTERS WE HAVE TO...
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| 00:53:56 |
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AWFULLY REVEALING OF ISSUES OF PERSONALITY AND CHARACTER. BUT IT WAS A DIFFICULT POSITION THAT MEADE FOUND HIMSELF IN IN MARCH 1864 BECAUSE HE DID...
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| 00:55:59 |
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MILITARY. HE RECOGNIZED,
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| 00:56:01 |
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I THINK, THAT MEADE WAS IN A DIFFICULT, UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION, AND WAS CAREFUL NOT TO EMBARRASS HIM. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO FAIR TO SAY THAT AFTER...
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| 00:56:14 |
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RECOGNIZED MEADE'S LIMITED SKILLS AS A GENERAL. MEADE WAS AN ENGINEER OFFICER. WHAT HAPPENED WAS -- STILL WENT ON UP UNTIL THE 1950'S, THE TOP WEST POINT...
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| 00:57:49 |
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THE EAST. HOW DID THE NEW REGIMENTS AND THE NEW SOLDIERS AND THE
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| 00:57:55 |
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DRAFTEES AND STUFF, HOW DID THEY AFFECT THE ARMY IN THAT WAY? BECAUSE THEY WERE NEW, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE -- >> THE QUESTION CONCERNS...
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| 00:58:28 |
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NEW TROOPS THAT WERE POURING MORE INTO THE ARMY OF THE POTOMAC THAN THE WESTERN ARMIES THAT WERE GOING TO CONSTITUTE THE FIGHTING FORCE, OR A LARNL...
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| 00:59:08 |
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STRING TEAMS, BY 1864 THE ARMY POTOMAC WAS NOT WHAT IT WAS IN 1862 OR
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| 00:59:15 |
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1863. YOU HAVE THE THREE-YEAR ENLISTEES AND THEIR TIME IS RUNNING OUT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASUALTY RATES FROM THE WILDERNESS TO COLD HARBOR, THE NUMBER...
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| 00:59:27 |
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WOUNDED MEN THAT SUDDENLY APPEAR, AND A COUPLE OF THEIR BUDDIES DRAGGING THEM TO THE REAR. THEY'RE HAVING REAL MAN POWER PROBLEMS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE...
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| 01:02:56 |
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| 01:02:59 |
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IT. BUT IT'S
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| 01:03:03 |
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THERE. IN NOVEMBER 1861, HE SAYS HE'S NOT FOUND ENOUGH LOYAL MEN IN THE REGION TO
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| 01:03:12 |
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SAVE SODOM. OH MY. HOW DID HE GET SODOM ON HIS MIND? YES, HE DOES HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR. AND IT'S A VERY SLY SENSE OF HUMOR. IT PERSISTS THROUGH...
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| 01:04:16 |
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OF GOLF. AT THE END OF IT THE DUKE WANTED TO KNOW, WHAT DID YOU THINK, GENERAL GRANT? HE SAID IT'S EXCELLENT EXERCISE FOR THE ARMS. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND,...
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| 01:04:54 |
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HISTORIANS HAVE THOUGHT THAT GRANT WAS PLAYING THIS STRAIGHT AND HE JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. >> THIS IS FOR MR. SIMON. HE TALKED ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP...
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| 01:05:21 |
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GRANT RELATIONSHIP, AND JOHN SIMON'S COMMENT EARLIER THAT EVEN AT THE VICKSBURG CAMPAIGN GRANT REALLY HAD TO PROVE HIMSELF TO LINCOLN. THE QUESTION...
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| 01:05:40 |
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THAT'S PART OF IT. THAT IS THERE IS A TERRIBLE WINTER IN 1862, 1863, WHEN THE ARMY IS IN DIFFICULTY AND UNABLE TO REACH THE ENEMY. THE ARMY HAS ALREADY...
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| 01:06:00 |
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SHERMAN'S PREMATURE ASSAULT ON VICKSBURG. THEN IT GOES INTO A KIND OF WINTER FUNK THAT HAS AS MUCH TO DO WITH THE WEATHER AS IT HAS TO DO WITH ANY KIND...
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| 01:08:28 |
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TO GIVE UP. NEVER TO GO BACK. >> HE SAID HE HAD A SUPERSTITION, THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO RETRACE HIS STEPS, WHICH HE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS....
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| 01:08:42 |
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OF MOVING BACK. THE RAID AT HOLLY SPRINGS DOES LEAD TO A CERTAIN WITHDRAWAL, AN UNHAPPY WITHDRAWAL, BUT A WITHDRAWAL,
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| 01:08:51 |
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NONETHELESS. IT IS DREW THAT GRANT IS NOT GOING TO GIVE UP, IN ANY SENSE, AT VICKSBURG. HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WILL INDICATE A LACK OF...
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| 01:09:46 |
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YORKTOWN. THE BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS. THE ARMY HAD A TRADITION, IN EFFECT, BECAUSE IT WAS SMALL COMPARED, SAY, TO EUROPEAN ARMIES, IT HAD A TRADITION...
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| 01:11:04 |
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IN TERMS OF SELECTING AND DIRECTING THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUBORDINATE TO HIM. >> THE QUESTION IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GRANT'S RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS...
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| 01:11:16 |
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QUESTION AROUND AND TALK ABOUT HOW GRANT SELECTED HIS SUBORDINATES AND HOW HE GOT ON WITH THEM. BROOKS, DO YOU WANT TO START THAT, THEN MAYBE JEAN?...
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| 01:11:30 |
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DETAIL, ESPECIALLY SHERMAN, WHICH IS A VERY INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP. I THINK THAT WITHOUT GRANT, SHERMAN DOES NOT END UP WHERE HE ENDS UP, GIVEN THAT...
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| 01:11:48 |
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INTERESTING IS THE STORY IS, OF COURSE, THAT PRIOR TO VICKSBURG SHERMAN EXPRESSES SERIOUS RESERVATIONSBOUT GRANT'S PLAN, AND THEN DOES GO OUT TO EXECUTE...
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| 01:14:20 |
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THAT IF HE WANTED TO DEFEND THE POSITION THERE WAS NO GENERAL
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| 01:14:23 |
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BETTER THAN GEORGE THOMAS TO DEFEND IT. THE PROBLEM WITH THOMAS IS HE WAS SLOW. THOMAS' CHIEF OF STAFF SAID, YES, HE WAS SLOW. ON TWO OCCASIONS GEORGE...
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| 01:16:33 |
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OWN COMMAND TEAM, AND YET GRANT STARTS
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| 01:16:36 |
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OUT WITH A GROUP OF POLITICAL COLONELS, DEMOCRATIC COLONELS WHO ARE IN COMMAND, UNDER HIM, AT BELMONT, WHO WILL SHOW UP LATER IN THE WAR. THE ONLY...
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| 01:19:03 |
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A DINNER SOMEONE MENTIONS THAT MASSACHUSETTS SENATOR CHARLES SUMMER IN, WHO WAS NOT ALWAYS IN THE PRESIDENT'S GOOD GRACES, DIDN'T BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE,...
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| 01:19:22 |
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WHO CAN TOP THAT? I THINK THIS QUESTION IS FOR ALL FOUR OF YOU, SO YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF IT HERE. >> MY FAVORITE ANECDOTE CONCERNS JEWELA, AND IT ISN'T...
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| 01:19:51 |
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TWO-YEAR COURTSHIP WITH JULIA THROUGH THE VERY UNRELIABLE POSTAL SERVICE OF 1846, 1847. HE KNEW HIS POTENTIAL FATHER-IN-LAW
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| 01:20:03 |
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THOUGHT THAT HIS DAUGHTER WOULD MAKE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE IN MARRYING LIEUTENANT GRANT. HE WORRIED CONSTANTLY WHETHER HE WOULD EVER GET TO MARRY HIS BELOVED....
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| 01:21:19 |
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OF TENNESSEE, NOW UNDER JOHN BELL HOOD. AND HE WAS ALSO MAKING SPEECHES FOR SOLVING CONSUMPTION, TO TRY TO BUCK UP THE MORAL OF THE SOUTHERN PEOPLE...
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