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THE HEART OF IT IS WHO IS A JOURNALIST? PARTICULARLY IN THIS DESPHOTION OF MEDIA, 24/7 NEWS CYCLES, THE INTERNET, WHERE BASICALLY IF YOU CAN PUT UP...
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| 00:02:47 |
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TO SAM. BUT THE SUBJECT OF BIAS IS A RICH ONE, AS I'M SURE YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SO FAR THIS MORNING, AND THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM LEFT FOR US TO CHEW ON...
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| 00:04:59 |
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MEDIA HAVE REALLY MADE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMUNICATE INTO A JOURNALIST OF A KIND, AND I THINK JOURNALISM, IF WE THINK ABOUT THE MEDIA BROADLY SPEAKING...
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| 00:08:40 |
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WHO SUPPORTED THE REPUBLICANS, WHO ADVOCATED THEIR POSITIONS, WHETHER IT WAS
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| 00:08:45 |
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THROUGH MY COLUMN, WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH MY RADIO BROADCAST OR MY TELEVISION SHOWS. THAT'S WHAT MY POSITION WAS. I'M A TALK SHOW HOST FROM THE RIGHT....
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| 00:12:47 |
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MY SCHOOLING. A JOURNALIST BEING WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY AND HOW AND BEING REMOVED FROM A STORY. THE BEST COMPLIMENT I CAN GET, WHEN I GO TO...
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| 00:14:45 |
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TERNAL DEBATE. MY DEFINITION IS IT'S SOMEBODY WHO GETS PAID FOR WRITING
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| 00:14:50 |
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OR EDITING FOR A JOURNAL THAT IS REGULARLY PUBLISHED. THE WORD IS NOT BROAD ENOUGH SO I HAVE INVENTED THREE OR FOUR OTHER DESS PRESCRIPTIONS. I'M...
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| 00:22:34 |
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YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD, SAID "WERE IT LEFT TO ME TO HAVE A COUNTRY WITH NO NEWSPAPERS OR A NEWSPAPER WITH NO COUNT, I WOULDN'T HESITATE TO CHOOSE THE...
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| 00:25:10 |
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OLD. BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE CREATED AN ARTIFICIAL DESTINATIONION AND IT IS A POSTWATERGATE DESTINATION. I APPLAUD THE STUDENTS I TEACH AT MADELL BUT...
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| 00:27:45 |
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STATURE AS NEWS REPORTERS OR JOURNALISTS? DOES THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE DOING IT AS A PROFESSION MAKE A DIFFERENCE? >> I THINK, TO GO BACK TO YOUR WEBSTER...
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| 00:28:18 |
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BLOGS, AND SO THE PASSION TO COMMUNICATE YOUR IDEAS I WOULD ARGUE -- AND THAT CAN BE PERSONAL, IT CAN BE INTELLECT ACTUAL, IT CAN BE BECAUSE OF YOUR...
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| 00:30:30 |
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QUALIFIES THEM TO BE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OR NOT OR WHAT IF THEY'RE LOOKING INTO A REPORT ON A NETWORK NEWS SHOW ABOUT A CANDIDATE OR A PRESIDENT...
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| 00:31:16 |
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WHAT THOSE PAMPHLETEERS BELIEVED AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP AND AMAZING FOLLOWING. TODAY WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROAST OF TOM...
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| 00:34:09 |
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THE STORY AFFECT YOU AS A STORY TELLER? >> WELL, IT'S -- YOU'RE IN A STATE OF SHOCK FOR A WHILE. EVEN AS SOMEONE WHO COVERS JUST ABOUT EVERY AS EXPECT...
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| 00:34:42 |
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MANY PEOPLE WRITE ABOUT IT AND TALK ABOUT IT AND THERE'S SUCH MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT IT, IF I COULD TAKE SOME TIME TO EXPLAIN IT. WHAT HAPPENED WAS, YOU...
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| 00:42:32 |
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YOU THINK YOU WERE INFLUENCED BY WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED THE NEW JOURNALISM? WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL I TOOK A COURSE AND TOM WOLF, NORMAN MAILER, TO NAME...
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| 00:42:51 |
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ALL BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR LITERARY TALENT. BUT HAS THIR DESIGNATION AS JOURNALISTS CAUSED ANY CONFUSION IN WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS QUESTION TODAY?...
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| 00:43:23 |
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INVERTED PYRAMID. WHAT A SURPRISE. THAT PERIOD JUST CAME AND WENT SO QUICKLY AS FAR AS JOURNALISM WENT FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE OF THEM IS IT TAKES...
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| 00:44:13 |
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9,000 WORDS. FOR KATRINA I WROTE TWO SECTIONS FOR THE TRIBUNE, EACH 7,000 WORDS LONG, WHICH IS WAY LONG FOR A NEWSPAPER STORY. NOBODY COMPLAINED. ...
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| 00:44:28 |
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THE STORY HAS TO BE REALLY BIG TO GET AWAY WITH THAT. THE PROBLEM WITH NEW JOURNALISM IS PEOPLE WERE -- SUDDENLY EVERYTHING WAS BECOMING NEW JOURNALISM....
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| 00:45:10 |
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SHOWS LIKE JON STEWART CAME IN AT 21% AND NATIONAL TELEVISION NEWS CAME IN AT 23%. DAN, I DON'T THINK THINKS THIS IS A BAD THING. MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO...
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| 00:45:59 |
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QUESTION ABOUT NEW JOURNALISM. NEW JOURNALISM IS BAKED INTO TODAY'S JOURNALISM ONLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT BEST HAVE FOUND THAT IT PAYS A LOT...
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| 00:48:56 |
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BRUTALLY SATIRIKAL LITTLE DICTIONARY OF POLITICAL EXPRESSIONS THAT WAS ALSO IMMENSELY POP LAYER IN IT'S ERA AND IT'S HOW PEOPLE CAME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT...
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| 00:50:18 |
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REPORTS FACTS.
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| 00:50:20 |
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THEY ALSO GATHER FACTS FROM ANALYSIS AND INTERVIEWS AND RESEARCH. BUT THEY'RE ALSO EDITED AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IS A MAJOR FACTOR THAT DISTINGUISHES...
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| 00:51:02 |
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BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE WERE THEN. BUT WE AGREED THAT NOTHING THAT I WROTE COULD GO INTO THE INTERNET
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| 00:51:09 |
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FOR
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| 00:51:11 |
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THE "TRUBBUNE" UNLESS IT WAS EDITED. THEN WE DECIDED MAYBE NOT EDITED BUT REVIEW. SO MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS STARTING TO REVIEW BLOGS. IF YOU'RE EDITING,...
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| 00:55:25 |
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THE SITUATION WITH
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| 00:55:28 |
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JACKLE KELLY AT "USA TODAY" OR JANET COOK AT "THE WASHINGTON POST" "WASHINGTON POST" AND WHAT'S GOING ON NOW WITH JUDITH MILLER
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| 00:55:38 |
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AT "THE NEW YORK TIMES." I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THIS. IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU WHEN YOU HAVE TO WRITE YOUR OWN STORY BECAUSE IT TELLS YOU THAT...
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| 00:57:26 |
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ANYBODY CAN PICK UP A CAMERA. THIS IS FOR JOHN POMPEO. IS MORE CAMERAS IN HAND A GOOD THING WITH RESPECT
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| 00:57:34 |
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TO BIAS? >> I WOULD SAY THAT TO AN EXTENT, YES. YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK BACK TO THE MURROW BUILDING TO THE EXPLOSION IN OKLAHOMA, THE PICTURE THAT CAPTIVATED...
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| 00:57:56 |
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I THINK YOU BRING THE SAME SKILL AND DISCERNING ABILITY AS A JOURNALIST BEHIND THE LENS. YOU HAVE TO STILL BRING THAT SAME IDEA AND DISCRETION AND JUST...
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| 00:58:57 |
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TO IS SOME OF THE STUFF BEING SAID EARLIER TODAY WAS IS
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| 00:59:00 |
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THAT NEVER FORGET, THIS IS A BUSINESS. WHATEVER ASPECT YOU'RE IN, IT'S A BUSINESS. IF YOU'RE NOT MAKING MONEY, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE PERSON DOING...
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| 01:00:38 |
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HAVE A CAMERA AND STILL NOT BE A PHOTOJOURNALIST.
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| 01:00:41 |
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I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A BLOG AND NOT BE A JOURNALIST. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN OUTLET DOES NOT MAKE ONE A JOURNALIST. A JOURNALIST GOES OUT AND GETS FACTS...
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| 01:03:02 |
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SWROURNLIST? >> WHAT DO YOU CALL HIM? OPINION MAN. ARE JOURNALISTS NOT OPINION MAKERS? I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. THEY'RE NOT. >> NO. >> JUST...
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| 01:03:25 |
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ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PEOPLE -- >> WE'RE AGREEING. I'M JUST CHALLENGING YOU. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THERE. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT PAGE....
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| 01:03:35 |
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THE
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| 01:03:36 |
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DIFFERENCE IS. WHY CANWY LABEL ANY OF THIS THE WAY WE WANT TO LABEL IT? >> I THINK IT'S LARGELY SEMANTIC. AND WHAT'S -- THE
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| 01:03:44 |
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IMPORTANT THING TO RECOGNIZE IS WE DO
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| 01:03:47 |
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NEED JOURNALISTS AND JOURNALISTIC INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE EDITED, THAT HAVE A
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| 01:03:55 |
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PROFESSIONAL FILTERING SYSTEM, THAT HAVE HIGH STANDARDS, THAT ARE SEEKING
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| 01:04:01 |
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TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH, THAT ARE SEEKING TO BE FAIR AND OBJECTIVE. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE KIND OF JOURNALISM. AND THERE...
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| 01:05:36 |
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PASSIONS, THEIR POLITICAL POSITION -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STENOGRAPHY, NOT JOURNALISM. >> YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. >> I'M NOT KIDDING ME. >> PEOPLE...
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| 01:05:46 |
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PROBLEM PEOPLE HAVE IS THEY ADVOCATE THEIR OPINION AND SOMETIMES THEIR OPINION GETS
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| 01:05:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN THE WAY OF
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| 01:05:52 |
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THE FACTS. >> WHERE DID YOU BECOME THE SAINT FRANCIS ALL OF A SUDDEN? >> I'M STATING MY OPINION LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I THINK MANY PEOPLE GET IT. >>...
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| 01:06:02 |
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IS YOU END UP WITH SOMEBODY
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| 01:06:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LIKE THE
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| 01:06:05 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
EXTREMISTS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. AND WHILE I THINK YOU KIND OF SORT OF WANT TO INCLUDE THEM AS A JOURNALIST, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO. SO, YOU SAY
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| 01:06:14 |
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THEY'RE A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA, MEANING THEY CAN GET
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| 01:06:17 |
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THEIR MESSAGE OUT TO THE MASSES. THEY CAN STIR UP CONTROVERSY. BUT
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| 01:06:21 |
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AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, CHRONICLING HISTORY OR -- TRUE JOURNALISTS ARE DAILY REPORTERS WRITESING THE FIRST DRAFT OF HISTORY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ALWAYS...
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| 01:07:05 |
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LOG BLOGS ARE RECOGNIZING THE NEED ABOUT LIBEL AND PLAGIARISM AND YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER YOURSELF A JOURNALIST, DIDN'T GO GO TO A J-SCHOOL BUT YOU'RE...
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| 01:07:16 |
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WITH THE IDEA OF BEING A JOURNALIST NOW. I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS YOUR OPINIONS ON WHAT IS THE VALUE OF FORMAL JOURNALISM TRAINING? WHAT'S GOING...
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| 01:08:10 |
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HAVE TRADITIONAL TRAINING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN JOURNALISM AND WHO ARE PRACTICING THAT CRAFT IN A VERY TRADITIONAL WAY. AND I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS...
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| 01:10:07 |
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APPROACH MY JOB. THERE ARE PEOPLE I'VE WORKED WITH THAT ARE NOT J FROM A J-SCHOOL THAT DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM IN A STORY THAT WAS WORKED ON FOR SIX WEEKS...
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| 01:10:53 |
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ONE. YOU SHOULDN'T WAIT FOR JOURNALISM SCHOOLS OR ANY INSTITUTIONS TO CREATE THIS FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE POSITION TO DO IT YOURSELVES. IT'S...
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| 01:12:50 |
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AND IS FACTUAL. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE STANDARD FOR EVERYONE. AND I THINK ALL OF US KNOW IN MEDIA, JUST LIKE WE KNOW IN OUR OWN LIVES, WE KNOW WE...
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| 01:13:37 |
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YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> WE HAVE A BRIEF 10-MINUTE BREAK. YOU CAN GO NEXT DOOR AND OUR NEXT PANEL WILL BE STARTING PROMPTLY AT 3:30. THANK YOU. >> OK,
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.