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ENROLLMENT EVEN THOUGH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
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WAS HELD AT LEGAL. FARCE LOT OF STUDENTS HEARD ABOUT THE COURT CASE AND THOUGHT IT WAS BEYOND WHAT THEY WERE DOING. RECENTLY, WE'RE SEEING
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REBOUNDS AS COLLEGES HAVE INCREASED RECRUITMENT AND FOCUSED STRATEGIES ALLOWED UNDER THE SUPREME COURT DECISION AND WORD HAS GOTEN OUT AFFIRMATIVE...
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WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO IS HAVE A VARIETY OF FACTORS THEY'RE GIVEN TO EACH PERSON AND IT'S MORE COMPLICATED HOLE IS STICK PROCESS. THEY'RE ALLOWED...
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AT IT BUT HOW THEY LOOK AT IT. ANOTHER THING THIS CHANGE HAS FORCED HOME TO DO, SPENDING MORE TIME IN HIGH SCHOOLS WITH LARGE MINORITY ENROLLMENTS,...
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TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. THE SUPREME COURT SAID AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SHOULDN'T LAST
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FOREVER. THEY'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO COLLEGES THEY SHOULD LOOK FOR STRATEGIES THAT SHOULD ALLOW SOME DAY IN THE FUTURE FOR MORE RACE NEUTRAL APPROACHES....
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AND THE UNDERGRADUATE PROGRAM IS HAVING MORE ESSAYS, MORE OF EMPHASIS ON INDIVIDUAL ANALYSIS RATHER THAN POINTS. >>
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WE WILL TALK ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, HIGHER EDUCATION. YOU CAN START CALLING IN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR GUESTS ABOUT THAT TOPIC. LINES THERE...
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OTHERS. START CALLING IN AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE CALLS IN JUST A MOIMT. AS WE'RE DOING THAT WE'RE JOINED BY THEODORE SPENCER, THE DIRECTOR OF ADMISSIONS...
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THE FACTORS, OUR ENROLLMENTS HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC REBOUND IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND ENROLLMENT DEPOSITS. AS WE LOOK AT OUR DIVERSITY NUMBERS,...
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MINORITY NUMBERS WERE DOWN ABOUT 20% FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AN THIS YEAR, UP ABOUT THAT
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NUMBER. WE DID THINK, ONE, THE APPLICATION WAS NEW. IT TOOK TIME FOR FAMILIES AND TEACHERS AND COUNSELORS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEW PROCESS WAS ALL...
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APPROACH. IT IS A MORE INDIVIDUALIZED APPLICATION AND LOOK FOR STUDENTS INDIVIDUAL INTEREST AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO
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OUR CAMPUS AND THE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THE STUDENTS HAVE HAD, UNUSUAL LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES AND LOOK FOR THINGS THE STUDENTS HAVE DONE AND ASK THEM...
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AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS AND 15% FOR HISPANIC STUDENTS AND WE'RE DOWN ABOUT FIVE STUNTS FOR NATIVE AMERICANS. BUT OVERALL,
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OUR NUMBERS ARE UP. I THINK I MISSTATED. ABOUT 12% FOR HISPANIC STUDENTS. >> THEODORE SPENCER WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN. THANKS FOR YOUR TOM....
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UNIVERSITY. SMALLER INSTITUTIONS HAVE HAD A MORE
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PERCENTAGELIZED ADMISSIONS PROCESS AND LESS LIKELY TO BE DOING THINGS THAT GOT SOME IN
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TROUBLE. >> THERE WAS INFORMATION ABOUT THIS TOPIC. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THEDY VERSETY OF COLLEGE STUDENTS? >> THE PRINCETON STUDY LOOKED AT WHAT...
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FROM 9% TO 3% OF AN INCOMING CLASS. SIMILAR TO CLIENTS INFORMATION HISPANIC STUDENTS.
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THE BIG WINNERS ARE NOT WHITE STUDENTS. WHITE ENROLLMENT WOULD STAY RELATIVETILY THE
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SAME. ASIAN ENROLLMENTS GO UP DRAMATICALLY AND GET FOUR OUT OF FIVE FROM THE LOST SPOTS FROM BLACK AND HISPANIC RESIDENTS WITHOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS....
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JUTE THE DEBATE
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OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, THERE'S THE MICHT WHITE STUDENTS WERE LOSING OUT. NOT. IN FACT THE AUTHORS OF THIS STUDY SUGGESTED THERE'S A A -- THIS AFFIRMATIVE...
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STUDENTS. I TOLD THEM THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS REALLY GOOD EDUCATION IF THEY REALLY PULLED THEIR
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WEIGHT. SO MY OLDEST DAUGHTER HAD ALMOST A FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO OVIE LAND. ALL THREE GIRLS HAVE GOTTEN SCHOLARSHIPS. AS WE DID RESEARCH FOR COLLEGES,...
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COLLEGES IN THE COUNTRY AND DON'T REALIZE HOW MANY VERY HIGH QUALITY INSTITUTIONS ARE LESS
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EXPENSIVE OR HAVE GENEROUS AID PACKAGES. YOU ALSO ASKED WHY SOME COLLEGES PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON DIVERSITY THAN OTHERS AND I THINK IT VARIES BY THE...
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ON CAMPUS. THERE'S A SENSE OF CRITICAL MASS. MOST MINORITY STUDENTS DON'T WANT GO TO A COLLEGE, HOWEVER WELCOME IT MAY BE, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER MINORITY...
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TERMS OF STANDARDS ISSUE, OTHER PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT'S A RED HERRING. IF COLLEGES ENGAGE BETTER RECRUITMENT AND ALSO WORK WITH HIGH SCHOOLS, WORK WITH...
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DIVIDE THE TOTAL
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APPLICANTS OR INCOMING FRESHMAN POPULATION BY 25% OF THE MAJOR GROUPINGS? >> THAT IS A -- >> GO AHEAD, SIR. >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING -- IT'S AN INTERESTING...
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IN. MANY OF THEM OBJECT IT
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TO. SOME FEAR THEY'LL BE EITHER HURT BECAUSE
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THEY ARE WHITE OR HURT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WHITE. THERE ARE MORE STUDENTS THESE DAYS OF MIXED RACIAL AND ETHNIC BROINDS. FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS WE...
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DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR EDUCATION, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS OF -- THAT OUR FUTURE ECONOMY WILL NEED TO ADDRESS NOW. IF YOU LOOK HOW WE DID IN...
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IDEA OF THIS MIGHT MAKE A LOT
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MORE SENSE IF EVERY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT HAD THE SAME OPPORTUNITY. BUT LOOK AT THINGS LIKE AP CLASSES, TEACHER PAY, SAFETY IN THE SCHOOLS, COURSE OFFERINGS....
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NOT GETTING INTO TOP COLLEGES, BECAUSE
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OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL PREPARATION, BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH WHETHER DO YOU GO TO A HIGH SCHOOL WHICH OFFERS A RANGE OF FOREIGN...
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| 00:17:36 |
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PREFERENCES. IF YOU PLAY THE TU BAND THE COLLEGE WANTS A MARCHING BAND, YOU GET A
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PREFERENCE. THE BOTTOM LINE, THE CONSTITUTION I DON'T BAR PREFERENCES FOR ATHLETES OR TU A BA PLAYERS E DOES HAVE REFERENCE TO RACE DISCRIMINATION....
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GOOD. I THINK IT'S UP TO THE
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PERSON. PEOPLE STUDY VERY HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGES. IT SHOULD BE BASED ON A PERSON'S PERFORMANCE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. >> THINK SIMILAR...
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THE CASE THAT THE MOST HARD WORKING INTELLIGENT STUDENT AT A LOW INCOME HIGH SCHOOL HAS THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS A STUDENT AT A WEALTHIER HIGH SCHOOL....
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| 00:19:33 |
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AND HAVE LOTS OF INTERACTIONS WITH READERS AND HOPE THOSE WATCHING AND I CARE ABOUT OUR ISSUES WILL JOIN OUR WEBSITE. >> FOR THE
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EDUCATOR, PARENT, STUDENT? >> MOSS ARE
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PEOPLE WHO WORK IN HIGHER
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EDUCATION, ADMINISTRATORS ALL OVER THE WORLD. WE WELCOME REACTIONS FROM STUDENT, PARENTS, CONCERNED PUBLIC. >> IF YOU'RE FREE HOUSE, DO YOU FUND IT?...
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US TO TO FIND THE PEOPLE THEY NEED TO TEACH AND
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RUN THE INSTITUTIONS. >> YOU GRADUATED FROM CORNELL UNIVERSITY, ROCHESTER E NEW YORK. STOCKBRIDGE,
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GEORGIA. STOCKBRIDGE, GEORGIA, GOOD MORNING. THEY HUNG UP.
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LET'S GO TO KINGSTON, OKLAHOMA. GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING. I'M INTERESTED IN THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE A BUSINESS....
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SYSTEM THAT'S MEDIOCRE, WE'LL GET MEDIOCRE RESULTS. THE FIRST COMMENT IS WHY ARE WE LOWERING OUR STANDARDS IN HIGH SCHOOLS AND NOT INCREASEING
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OUR AVAILABILITY TO CLASSES IN LEDGES? WE HAVE COMPANIES THAT IF THEY NEED EXTRA PARTS FOR GM, THEY GET OUTSOURCED. WHY ARE WE NOT INCLUDING MORE SQUARE...
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| 00:21:34 |
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COLLEGES, ESPECIALLY PUBLIC COLLEGES HAVE BEEN REALLY SQUEEZED IN RECENT YEARS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COLLEGES TURNING AWAY STUDENTS. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED...
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DIFFERENT WAY ALTHOUGH THEY ADD TO DIVERSITY ON CAMPUS WHICH IS PART OF AFFIRMATIVE
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ACTION. >> CONNORSVILLE E INDIANA. >> Caller: I DO SUPPORT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO TAKE IN KIDS FROM A LOWER INCOME LEVEL...
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WIDE. I'M WONDERING IF
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THERE IS ANYTHING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE POOR TO GET THEIR KIDS INTO COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> YES. IN FACT, THERE IS. ONE OF THE INTERESTING...
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INSTITUTIONS. THESE ARE PURE ECONOMIC FORMULAS BASED ON POVERTY LEVEL, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. WHAT THESE COLLEGES ARE FINDING THEY'RE ATTRACTING...
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ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS GRADING PAPERS, SEEING STUDENTS PERFORM OR NOT PERFORM BASIC
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MATH. IT'S A VERY TRICKY ISSUE. EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES IS VERY DECENTRALIZED. YOU COULD HAVE A GRAND PLAN PUT FORWARD BY A COLLEGE PRESIDENT....
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OTHER SIDE -- IT
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OFFENDS THE OTHER SIDE. THE DIVERSITY OF MINDS SHOULD BE PUT MORE INTO THE EDUCATORS
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THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY ALL SEEM TO BE IN THE SAME MINDSET. WHEN YOU LEAVE SLOTS OPEN FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE GRADES, AND YOU LEAVE SLOTS OPEN...
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WYOMING THEY WANT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER, NOT JUST THE ELITE HIGH SCHOOLS. YOU MENTIONED CONCERN ABOUT TAKING SPOTS. A LOT OF FOREIGN STUDENTS COMING...
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MANY SLOTS, THE REALITY IS
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DIFFERENT. A SECOND POINT, IN THINKING ABOUT THIS, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE, WHITE PRIVILEGE THAT TIPS THE SCALE THE OTHER WAY AFFIRMATIVE...
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SUCCESSFUL RECRUITING AND GRADUATING STUDENTS WHO ARE MINORITY STUDENTS IF THEY HAVE A GROUP OF THEM, NOT JUST ONE OR TWO. >> WHAT'S THE FUTURE HOLD,...
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| 00:28:34 |
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WATCHING VERY CAREFULLY. I THINK WE'LL SEE MORE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND LITIGATION IN THE YEARS AHEAD, AND NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE MICHIGAN CASE ISN'T...
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RULES. >> IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION ISSUES, SCOTT JASCHIK IS THE EDITOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. >> WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT...
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PAUL MITCHELL, WHAT IS THE WORLD BANK? >> IT'S NOT
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