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WROTE A COVER PIECE FOR U.S. NEWS ON THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF A BATTLE THAT HAD BEEN FORGOTTEN IN VIETNAM, AND ONE OF THE FIRST LETTERS THAT I RECEIVED...
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| 00:05:46 |
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FOR THE IDEA. I AM ALSO THRILLED TONIGHT TO HAVE MY EDITOR, HAD ENRY FERIS HERE, AND MY PUBLICIST AND HER ASSISTANT, SHARON, SAM, AND I APPRECIATE ALL...
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| 00:08:11 |
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HERO MAMA PAYS TRIBUTE TO MY OWN MOTHER AND THE THOUSANDS OF MILITARY FAMILIES LIKE OURS. MY NEPHEW, DAVID, DEPLOYED TO MOSUL IN OCTOBER SHORTLY BEFORE...
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| 00:10:57 |
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LEAVING ME. FRANK, YOU'RE THE MAN OF THE HOUSE NOW, DADDY SAID. I NEED YOU TO HELP TAKE CARE OF YOUR MAMA AND SISTER. YES, SIR, FRANKY REPLIED. HIS VOICE...
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| 00:16:39 |
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ABOUT IT TOMORROW. CLICK. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. THAT OLD BAG HAD HUNG UP ON ME. SHE DIDN'T LISTEN TO A WORD I SAID, AND SHE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T CARE...
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| 00:27:38 |
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VERY WELL-SUPERVISED APPALACHIAN GIRL. BOTH MY PARENTS CAME FROM LARGE APPALACHIAN FAMILIES WHERE EDUCATION WAS VALUED BUT NOT AFFORDED. MY FATHER
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| 00:27:49 |
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HAD JOINED THE ARMY AS A MEANS TO GET AN EDUCATION AND TO SEE THE WORLD, AND THE ARMY GAVE HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY. >> WHEN WERE THEY BORN? WHAT KIND...
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| 00:28:17 |
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WOULD HAVE BEEN -- >> HE WAS 35 WHEN HE WAS
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| 00:28:22 |
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KILLED. >> YOU SAY THAT YOUR MOTHER DISCONNECTED FROM ALL THINGS MILITARY UNTIL AS RECENTLY AS 1996. >> WELL, MY MOTHER REMAINS DISCONNECTED
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| 00:28:36 |
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FROM ALL THINGS MILITARY TO THIS DAY. THAT APPEARS
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| 00:28:40 |
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TO BE A PROBLEM THAT'S STILL ONGOING WITH THE WIDOWS FROM THIS WAR. THEY HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT
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| 00:28:46 |
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BECAUSE MOM HAD ALWAYS BEEN A MILITARY WIFE FROM THE TIME SHE WAS
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| 00:28:54 |
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16. HAVE YOU TO -- IF YOU LIVE ON BASE, HAVE YOU TO MOVE OFF BASE, AND IT'S VERY AWKWARD FOR A WIDOW TO ASSOCIATE WITH MILITARY FAMILIES WHO ARE WELCOMING...
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| 00:29:51 |
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IRONICALLY THE WAR. WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL IMPRESSION OF VIETNAM TODAY? >> WELL, MY FIRST IMPRESSION WAS I REMEMBER BEING IN THE PLANE AND FLYING OVER...
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| 00:30:21 |
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FIND IN OREGON OR ANY OTHER PLACE. I DIDN'T KNOW REALLY WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE VIETNAMESE PEOPLE. I HAD GROWN UP WITH A LOT OF MISCONSENTIONSMENT...
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| 00:31:19 |
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TIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OR WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT IS. IT WAS A DRAFT D ARMY THEN, AND MOST OF THE BULK OF THE SOLDIERS
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| 00:31:30 |
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WERE 19, 20 YEARS OLD
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| 00:31:32 |
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AND WERE WANT MARRIED. IT WAS THE SERGEANTS AND THE OFFICERS, THE WARRANT OFFICER PILOTS WHO HAD FAMILIES, BUT IT'S THE -- IT IS A UNIVERSAL STORY. YOU...
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| 00:34:51 |
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DOCUMENTATION, INCLUDING MY FATHER'S AUTOPSY REPORT, AND THERE
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| 00:34:54 |
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HAD BEEN SOME DISCREPANCY OVER HOW MY FATHER DIED, AND REALLY KIND OF THE IMPOTUS FOR THE BOOK IS THAT AS A TRAINED JOURNALIST, I HAD GONE BACK AND ...
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| 00:35:36 |
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MORTAR ROUND DID THAT, THERE WOULD BE NO -- NOTHING TO BURY, AND
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| 00:35:39 |
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I SAW MY DAD'S BODY. SO -- AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH INTACT. SECOND OF ALL, I HAD THE SENSE THAT MY DAD WAS A PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER. YOU KNOW, DID HE DO...
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| 00:36:33 |
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SALARY, WHICH, AWS WELL KNOW, ISN'T THAT MUCH TODAY AND WASN'T THAT MUCH THEN.
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| 00:36:37 |
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SO SHE SENT -- SPENT $6,000 OF THAT ON A TRAILER, AND, YOU KNOW, FIGURED OUT A WAY TO PUT HERSELF THROUGH SCHOOL. SHE ONLY -- BECAUSE SHE HAD MARRIED...
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| 00:37:13 |
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WHAT DID D SHE LIKE LEAST ABOUT THE BOOK? >>
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| 00:37:17 |
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SHE THINKS THAT -- I WROTE THE BOOK HONESTLY. SHE DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, AND I DIDN'T ALWAYS MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, AND EVERYBODY WAS ACTING...
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| 00:37:34 |
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FOLLOWING A DEATH. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS A MOM, YOU WANT TO LOOK BACK -- I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT MY DAUGHTER TO BE A WRITER. CAN I TELL YOU THIS MUCH. YOU...
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| 00:37:44 |
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BACK AND SEE THAT YOU WERE A TERRIFIC MOM WHO MADE ALL THE RIGHT DECISIONS, AND, UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD A REALLY GOOD MEMORY ABOUT THINGS, AND -- >>...
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| 00:38:18 |
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TOOLS IN A CHILD DEVELOPMENT SO FAR WAY TO HELP US AS CHILDREN
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| 00:38:23 |
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ADJUST. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE VIEWING OF MY FATHER'S DEATH, THERE WAS NO -- NOBODY SAT DOWN IN THE FAMILY AND SAID, OK, HONEY, THIS IS WHAT...
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| 00:39:32 |
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BOOK TOUR, SO MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE EARLY FOR
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| 00:39:34 |
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YOU TO BE GETTING EMAIL MESSAGES AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE READ THE BOOK AND -- >> NO, I MEAN, I AM HEARING FROM PEOPLE ALREADY, AND I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE...
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| 00:39:51 |
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EXPERIENCE IF YOU WERE A BABY DURING THAT WAR IS DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU WERE AN ADULT -- AN OLDER CHILD WHO CAN REMEMBER THE NEWS
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| 00:39:57 |
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BROADCASTS AT NIGHT. IF YOU WERE, SAY, 6 MONTHS OLD WHEN YOUR FATHER DIED, YOU GREW UP WITH A VISION OF YOUR FATHER THAT YOUR FAMILY CREATED FOR YOU....
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| 00:41:31 |
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I HAD DONE A LOT OF -- BEEN ON A LOT OF TOP-SECRET CRORTS AND BEEN ON TOP-SECRET CRIME
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| 00:41:40 |
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SCENES. I HAD THIS DRIVE FOR TRUTH, AND IT WAS A MATTER OF WHEN THE AUTOPSY REPORT FIRST CAME, THERE WAS A NOTEATION ON IT THAT INDICATED MY FATHER...
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| 00:42:37 |
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THAT THERE WERE AUTOPSY REPORTS
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| 00:42:42 |
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FILED. >> THEY'RE PRETTY DETAILED. >> I DID NOT KNOW THAT. >> JOE, ASK A QUESTION HERE. I HAVE MORE FOR YOU. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU OUT OVER HERE....
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| 00:42:57 |
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THE FOLKS OUT HERE ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. >>
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| 00:43:04 |
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YES. [INAUDIBLE] >>
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| 00:43:07 |
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| 00:43:09 |
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MY COMBE IS FOR JOE AND FOR
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| 00:43:13 |
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KAREN. JOE, YOU STARTED BEGINNING TONIGHT SAYING THAT SADLY THIS
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| 00:43:17 |
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BOOK IS STILL VERY TOP CAL BECAUSE THERE ARE CHILDREN BEING ORPHANNED TODAY. LIKE THERE WAS A REPORT TODAY
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| 00:43:24 |
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35 MARINES WERE KILLED IN ONE EVENT. SO I'M WONDERING -- MY QUESTION TO BOTH OF YOU IS HOW DO YOU THINK IT IS DIFFERENT NOW FOR
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| 00:43:32 |
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THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS AND WIDOWS OF OUR VETERANS AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT BE DIFFERENT? >> WELL, I -- I AM PRETTY SURE IT'S CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT...
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| 00:44:03 |
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SOLDIERS ARE, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE IF I WERE GOING TO IRAQ. I DON'T THINK I WOULD SAVE PENNIES THAT WAY. THE PAYOUT IS $250,000. THERE ARE OTHER BENEFITS....
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| 00:46:54 |
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THAT
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| 00:46:55 |
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JOE IS TALKING ABOUT. IT'S ACTUALLY DOUBLED DURING THIS WAR. IT WAS $6,000.
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| 00:47:00 |
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THEY DID MOVE TO DOUBLE THAT DURING
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| 00:47:03 |
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THIS PARTICULAR CONFLICT. IT'S CALLED A DEATH GRATUITY, AND ONE WIDOW SAID TO ME, YOU
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| 00:47:09 |
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KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK
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| 00:47:11 |
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OF GRATUITY, YOU THINK OF A TIP, AND THEN LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED THE MONEY, BUT IT FEELS LIKE BLOOD MONEY BECAUSE IN A SENSE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT...
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| 00:51:45 |
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HAVE BEEN THE CASE THAT IF YOUR DAD HAD NOT BEEN IN THE MILITARY PRIOR TO THAT, HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DRAFTED AT ALL. I'M NOT SURE OF THAT, BUT --...
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| 00:52:13 |
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MEMBERS IN THE MILITARY
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| 00:52:14 |
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IN 1966 THAN THERE ARE TODAY. MUCH -- MANY MORE FAMILIES AFFECTED BY THESE TOURS. >> EXACTLY. I THINK THE PERCENTAGE NOW MARRIED SOLDIERS IS AROUND...
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| 00:52:41 |
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MARRIED. >> NEIL GORDON, YOU MUST HAVE A QUESTION YOU WANT TO -- >>
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| 00:52:54 |
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NOW THAT YOU CALLED ON ME. >> NEIL IS NOT JUST AN AUTHOR AND WRITER HIMSELF, BUT HE TEACHES AT MY COLLEGE IN OUR WRITING
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| 00:53:07 |
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PROGRAM.
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| 00:53:10 |
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NEIL. >> I'M TEACHING NOW A COURSE IN WHICH WE'RE READING ABOUT VIETNAM AND TRYING TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW VIETNAM
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| 00:53:20 |
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WAS EXPERIENCED BY AMERICANS DURING
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| 00:53:22 |
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THE WAR. ONE THING THAT REALLY STRUCK ME IS YOUR FATHER WAS A CAREER -- A CAREER IN THE MILITARY, AND HE WENT TO VIETNAM NOT THAT HE
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| 00:53:33 |
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DIDN'T -- HE WENT TO VIETNAM TO FIGHT COMMUNISM OR HE BELIEVED THAT HE WAS FIGHTING COMMUNISM. DID HE -- WAS HE REALLY -- WAS HE MOTIVATED BY THE -- BY...
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| 00:56:02 |
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IN PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S INAUGURAL ADDRESS, PAY ANY PRICE, SPARE ANY BURDEN, CALLED SAYS, WHICH WAS A CALL TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. IT HAS SO FAR AN ERIE...
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| 00:58:18 |
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VIETNAM, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT HE
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| 00:58:22 |
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DID TO HELP THE FAMILY
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| 00:58:26 |
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FOR THE SEPARATION
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| 00:58:27 |
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AND SO FAR
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| 00:58:28 |
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ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT IS IF HE DIDN'T OR WHAT DO YOU THINK
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| 00:58:32 |
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THAT HE COULD HAVE DONE THAT HE DIDN'T DO TO HELP THE
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| 00:58:35 |
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FAMILY IN THE EVENT THAT HE WOULD HAVE DIED? >> NO. I DON'T THINK HE DID ANYTHING TO HELP THE FAMILY, AND I FOR YEARS FELT ABANDONED BY MY FATHER, WHICH...
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| 00:59:01 |
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THINK LONG-TERM ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF HE DIED, HOW WE WOULD SURVIVE FINANCIALLY. LIKE MOST SOLDIERS, MY FATHER TRUSTED THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENED...
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| 01:00:28 |
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NED ALLMAND.
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| 01:00:32 |
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AN OLDER SOLDIER, WORLD WAR I
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| 01:00:34 |
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VETERAN, I THINK. CAME OUT OF VIRGINIA. PROTEGE OF GEORGE MARSHALL'S. STONE-COLD RACIST. OF COURSE, THE ARMY PUTS HIM IN CHARGE OF A BLACK DIVISION,...
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| 01:05:45 |
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TELLING YOUR STORY IN THE INTRODUCTION. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE -- AS A KID YOU MAY HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOUR DAD BROKE HIS PROMISE TO YOU TO COME HOME, BUT,...
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| 01:06:04 |
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GENERAL ALLMAND'S CULTURE AND WAY OF DOING THINGS IN TERMS OF -- >> YEAH. >> -- YOU KNOW, PACKING THOSE EMOTIONS UP AND NEVER LETTING THEM OUT THAN TODAY....
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| 01:06:29 |
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SIR. >> HI. HOW ARE YOU? >> I KNOW YOU TALKED A LOT
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| 01:06:37 |
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ABOUT YOUR MOM, BUT I WAS WUSHED EVERY WRNEDING IF YOU WOULD TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT YOUR BROTHER AND YOUR SISTER. I TAKE IT YOUR BROTHER WAS OLDER...
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| 01:06:45 |
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WITH IT AND HOW THEY DEALT WITH THE BOOK ALSO. >> OH, MAN. YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW
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| 01:06:52 |
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EVERYTHING. MY BROTHER WAS 12,
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| 01:06:55 |
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AND MY
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| 01:06:56 |
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SISTER WAS 7 WHEN DAD DIED. I WAS . I WAS 9. BECAUSE OF THE WAY FAMILIES DEVELOP, OF COURSE, I WAS VERY CLOSE TO MY BROTHER AND MY SISTER WAS THE...
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| 01:07:10 |
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VERY CLOSE UNTIL HE HIT PUBERTY, ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD, AND HE BEGAN PROTESTING MY DAD'S DEATH THROUGH ANGER AND BECAME PRETTY MUCH OF A JUVENILE DELINQUENT...
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| 01:09:20 |
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LONG STORY SHORT IS, WE'RE -- SHE'S FROM MY HOMETOWN IN
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| 01:09:23 |
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OREGON STATE. WE HAVE BECOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS, I HOPE, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, KAREN, FOR YOUR BOOK. I KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS, AND, JOE, WE GO BACK....
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| 01:10:49 |
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HARD TIMES, AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL
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| 01:10:54 |
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ABOUT. IT'S GIVING BACK, AND DUANE PAULSON DOES THAT EVERY DAY. THANKS, DWAYNE. [APPLAUSE] >> KAREN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WRITING THE BOOK,...
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| 01:11:27 |
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| 01:11:33 |
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THAN
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